Last week we had a Doctor Who story with a touch of Agatha
Christie about it. This week we get a Doctor Who story with a
Sherlock Holmes flavour.... plus, a whiff of Jack the Ripper and
some Phantom of the Opera thrown in for good measure.
To teach Leela about her human ancestors The Doctor decides to
take Leela to a theatre in Victorian London... a foggy Victoria
London where mysterious things have been going on in the cellar
of the local theatre and women have been going missing... surely
not a coincidence?
Basically, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" is what happens when
Doctor Who, or more accurately Philip Hinchcliffe, decides to
mash together Victorian penny dreadfuls, music hall variety
halls, time travel paradoxes, and just to give everyone a scare,
a dodgy looking giant rat in the sewer... Oh hang on, they have
improved the rat for the Blu-ray Collection version... with the
"updated special effects" option turned on it looks a bit more
ratty and less 'fluffy toy zoomed-in'. Blasphemy!
The cast of characters in this story are absolutely wonderful...
Mr Jago and Professor Litefoot were so popular as supporting
characters they went on to have their own range of audio
stories. Mr Sin is memorable because he looks like a creepy
ventriloquist dummy but is actually a violent cyborg assassin. A
very deadly midget! Whilst the magician Li H'sen Chang might be
more memorable for other reasons, as he was played by a white
actor yellowing up. Which is now frowned upon by the let's not
offend absolutely anyone brigade. (Racial stereotyping... blah
blah blah... fuck off!)
The real villain is a time traveller from the future, Magnus
Greel who is on the run from the authorities in the 51st
century... now masquerading as the Chinese god Weng-Chiang.
Greel was originally planned to be the decayed Master from "The
Deadly Assassin" but Philip Hinchcliffe changed this idea.
The six parts flew by this afternoon and I didn't feel the story
dragged at all watching the episodes one after the other! - An
empty house, unlimited tea and biscuits... a perfect afternoon.
This was more top tier Doctor Who, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang"
was well written and well produced. It's still a classic.
"The Talons of Weng-Chiang" closed off Season 14 and marked the
end of the Philip Hinchcliffe era... it is a story of its time
but even so it is still a solid Doctor Who story that I feel
warrants a 10/10 as it's very enjoyable.
[quoted text muted]
Greel who is on the run from the authorities in the 51st
century... now masquerading as the Chinese god Weng-Chiang.
Greel was originally planned to be the decayed Master from "The
Deadly Assassin" but Philip Hinchcliffe changed this idea.
I didn't know that but I noticed similarities to the situation of the Master.
On 24/04/2026 16:14, Blueshirt wrote:
Last week we had a Doctor Who story with a touch of Agatha
Christie about it. This week we get a Doctor Who story with a
Sherlock Holmes flavour.... plus, a whiff of Jack the Ripper
and some Phantom of the Opera thrown in for good measure.
To teach Leela about her human ancestors The Doctor decides
to take Leela to a theatre in Victorian London... a foggy
Victoria London where mysterious things have been going on
in the cellar of the local theatre and women have been going
missing... surely not a coincidence?
Basically, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" is what happens when
Doctor Who, or more accurately Philip Hinchcliffe, decides to
mash together Victorian penny dreadfuls, music hall variety
halls, time travel paradoxes, and just to give everyone a
scare, a dodgy looking giant rat in the sewer... Oh hang on,
they have
Ah yes. The giant rat.
I forgot to mention in my review that The New
Avengers did exactly the same story with a giant rat
killing people in the sewers of London with I think
Peter Cushing playing the role of the mad scientist.
I think Robert Holmes reused exactly the same script
for The New Avengers in exactly the same year.
improved the rat for the Blu-ray Collection version...
with the "updated special effects" option turned on it
a bit more ratty and less 'fluffy toy zoomed-in'. Blasphemy!
The cast of characters in this story are absolutely
wonderful... Mr Jago and Professor Litefoot were so popular
as supporting characters they went on to have their own
range of audio stories. Mr Sin is memorable because he looks
like a creepy ventriloquist dummy but is actually a violent
cyborg assassin. A very deadly midget! Whilst the magician
Li H'sen Chang might be more memorable for other reasons, as
he was played by a white actor yellowing up. Which is now
frowned upon by the let's not offend absolutely anyone
brigade. (Racial stereotyping... blah blah blah... fuck off!)
The real villain is a time traveller from the future, Magnus
Greel who is on the run from the authorities in the 51st
century... now masquerading as the Chinese god Weng-Chiang.
Greel was originally planned to be the decayed Master from
"The Deadly Assassin" but Philip Hinchcliffe changed this
idea.
I didn't know that but I noticed similarities to the situation
of the Master.
The six parts flew by this afternoon and I didn't feel the
story dragged at all watching the episodes one after the
other!
I watched them all back to back too without even pausing in
between.
An empty house, unlimited tea and biscuits... a perfect
afternoon. This was more top tier Doctor Who, "The Talons
of Weng-Chiang" was well written and well produced. It's
still a classic.
"The Talons of Weng-Chiang" closed off Season 14 and marked
the end of the Philip Hinchcliffe era... it is a story of
its time but even so it is still a solid Doctor Who story
that I feel warrants a 10/10 as it's very enjoyable.
They don't get any better than this.
The six parts flew by this afternoon and I didn't feel the
story dragged at all watching the episodes one after the
other!
I watched them all back to back too without even pausing in
between.
I don't normally do that, but everyone was out so I had a free
afternoon... I only stopped to make tea and grab some biscuits.
On 24/04/2026 16:14, Blueshirt wrote:
Last week we had a Doctor Who story with a touch of Agatha
Christie about it. This week we get a Doctor Who story with a
Sherlock Holmes flavour.... plus, a whiff of Jack the Ripper and
some Phantom of the Opera thrown in for good measure.
To teach Leela about her human ancestors The Doctor decides to
take Leela to a theatre in Victorian London... a foggy Victoria
London where mysterious things have been going on in the cellar
of the local theatre and women have been going missing... surely
not a coincidence?
Basically, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" is what happens when
Doctor Who, or more accurately Philip Hinchcliffe, decides to
mash together Victorian penny dreadfuls, music hall variety
halls, time travel paradoxes, and just to give everyone a scare,
a dodgy looking giant rat in the sewer... Oh hang on, they have
Ah yes. The giant rat. I forgot to mention in my review that The New >Avengers did exactly the same story with a giant rat killing people in
the sewers of London with I think Peter Cushing playing the role of the
mad scientist. I think Robert Holmes reused exactly the same script for
The New Avengers in exactly the same year.
improved the rat for the Blu-ray Collection version... with the
"updated special effects" option turned on it looks a bit more
ratty and less 'fluffy toy zoomed-in'. Blasphemy!
The cast of characters in this story are absolutely wonderful...
Mr Jago and Professor Litefoot were so popular as supporting
characters they went on to have their own range of audio
stories. Mr Sin is memorable because he looks like a creepy
ventriloquist dummy but is actually a violent cyborg assassin. A
very deadly midget! Whilst the magician Li H'sen Chang might be
more memorable for other reasons, as he was played by a white
actor yellowing up. Which is now frowned upon by the let's not
offend absolutely anyone brigade. (Racial stereotyping... blah
blah blah... fuck off!)
The real villain is a time traveller from the future, Magnus
Greel who is on the run from the authorities in the 51st
century... now masquerading as the Chinese god Weng-Chiang.
Greel was originally planned to be the decayed Master from "The
Deadly Assassin" but Philip Hinchcliffe changed this idea.
I didn't know that but I noticed similarities to the situation of the >Master.
The six parts flew by this afternoon and I didn't feel the story
dragged at all watching the episodes one after the other! - An
I watched them all back to back too without even pausing in between.
empty house, unlimited tea and biscuits... a perfect afternoon.
This was more top tier Doctor Who, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang"
was well written and well produced. It's still a classic.
"The Talons of Weng-Chiang" closed off Season 14 and marked the
end of the Philip Hinchcliffe era... it is a story of its time
but even so it is still a solid Doctor Who story that I feel
warrants a 10/10 as it's very enjoyable.
They don't get any better than this.
----
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"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
Verily, in article <10sieks$r8cp$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
[quoted text muted]
Greel who is on the run from the authorities in the 51st
century... now masquerading as the Chinese god Weng-Chiang.
Greel was originally planned to be the decayed Master from "The
Deadly Assassin" but Philip Hinchcliffe changed this idea.
I didn't know that but I noticed similarities to the situation of the
Master.
Yeah, I noticed that as well. I thought this would have been a good role
for the Master, but it's also good to have a variety. The Master
shouldn't be the source of all evil in the universe.
Perhaps someday the Doctor will meet Greel in the future, when he's
still in power, and disrupt his evil experiments. Greel will escape to
the past, but we'll learn more of his terrible experiments.
----
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United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
The True Doctor wrote:
On 24/04/2026 16:14, Blueshirt wrote:
Last week we had a Doctor Who story with a touch of Agatha
Christie about it. This week we get a Doctor Who story with a
Sherlock Holmes flavour.... plus, a whiff of Jack the Ripper
and some Phantom of the Opera thrown in for good measure.
To teach Leela about her human ancestors The Doctor decides
to take Leela to a theatre in Victorian London... a foggy
Victoria London where mysterious things have been going on
in the cellar of the local theatre and women have been going
missing... surely not a coincidence?
Basically, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" is what happens when
Doctor Who, or more accurately Philip Hinchcliffe, decides to
mash together Victorian penny dreadfuls, music hall variety
halls, time travel paradoxes, and just to give everyone a
scare, a dodgy looking giant rat in the sewer... Oh hang on,
they have
Ah yes. The giant rat.
The CGI version doesn't look as ropey as the original.
I forgot to mention in my review that The New
Avengers did exactly the same story with a giant rat
killing people in the sewers of London with I think
Peter Cushing playing the role of the mad scientist.
I think Robert Holmes reused exactly the same script
for The New Avengers in exactly the same year.
I think I remember that episode actually.
improved the rat for the Blu-ray Collection version...
with the "updated special effects" option turned on it
a bit more ratty and less 'fluffy toy zoomed-in'. Blasphemy!
The cast of characters in this story are absolutely
wonderful... Mr Jago and Professor Litefoot were so popular
as supporting characters they went on to have their own
range of audio stories. Mr Sin is memorable because he looks
like a creepy ventriloquist dummy but is actually a violent
cyborg assassin. A very deadly midget! Whilst the magician
Li H'sen Chang might be more memorable for other reasons, as
he was played by a white actor yellowing up. Which is now
frowned upon by the let's not offend absolutely anyone
brigade. (Racial stereotyping... blah blah blah... fuck off!)
The real villain is a time traveller from the future, Magnus
Greel who is on the run from the authorities in the 51st
century... now masquerading as the Chinese god Weng-Chiang.
Greel was originally planned to be the decayed Master from
"The Deadly Assassin" but Philip Hinchcliffe changed this
idea.
I didn't know that but I noticed similarities to the situation
of the Master.
Yeah, the clues are there.
The six parts flew by this afternoon and I didn't feel the
story dragged at all watching the episodes one after the
other!
I watched them all back to back too without even pausing in
between.
I don't normally do that, but everyone was out so I had a free
afternoon... I only stopped to make tea and grab some biscuits.
An empty house, unlimited tea and biscuits... a perfect
afternoon. This was more top tier Doctor Who, "The Talons
of Weng-Chiang" was well written and well produced. It's
still a classic.
"The Talons of Weng-Chiang" closed off Season 14 and marked
the end of the Philip Hinchcliffe era... it is a story of
its time but even so it is still a solid Doctor Who story
that I feel warrants a 10/10 as it's very enjoyable.
They don't get any better than this.
Definitely not. These stories were top-notch and classics of
British television... "Doctor Who" at its very best.
Verily, in article <xn0poy72s4i3alo000@post.eweka.nl>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
The six parts flew by this afternoon and I didn't feel the
story dragged at all watching the episodes one after the
other!
I watched them all back to back too without even pausing in
between.
I don't normally do that, but everyone was out so I had a free
afternoon... I only stopped to make tea and grab some biscuits.
I took two breaks, but I resented both of them. It's an amazing story. I >should get this era on DVD.
----
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United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
In article <MPG.445692dd689bcccb989d42@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <xn0poy72s4i3alo000@post.eweka.nl>, did >>blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
The six parts flew by this afternoon and I didn't feel the
story dragged at all watching the episodes one after the
other!
I watched them all back to back too without even pausing in
between.
I don't normally do that, but everyone was out so I had a free
afternoon... I only stopped to make tea and grab some biscuits.
I took two breaks, but I resented both of them. It's an amazing story. I >>should get this era on DVD.
6 parter!!
--
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United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
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They don't get any better than this.
Definitely not. These stories were top-notch and classics of
British television... "Doctor Who" at its very best.
Who the hell is carrying the non-existant alr.drwho?
In article
<MPG.445692dd689bcccb989d42@news.eternal-september.org>, The
True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <xn0poy72s4i3alo000@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
I don't normally do that, but everyone was out so I had a
free afternoon... I only stopped to make tea and grab some
biscuits.
I took two breaks, but I resented both of them. It's an
amazing story. I should get this era on DVD.
6 parter!!
Who the hell is carrying the non-existant alr.drwho?
On 4/25/2026 08:42, Blueshirt wrote:
They don't get any better than this.
Definitely not. These stories were top-notch and classics of
British television... "Doctor Who" at its very best.
Agreed....this is one of my personal favorite stories.
Talons retains it's place in the top tier of "Doctor Who"
stories. It's one of my favourites too.
The Philip Hinchcliffe era is renowned in fandom for it's
quality, re-watching the episodes [in order] just reminds me
how good that era actually was... with story after story
hitting the mark - week after week. It's not hype at all, the
quality was consistently high... this was the show at its peak.
In article <10sieks$r8cp$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 24/04/2026 16:14, Blueshirt wrote:
Last week we had a Doctor Who story with a touch of Agatha
Christie about it. This week we get a Doctor Who story with a
Sherlock Holmes flavour.... plus, a whiff of Jack the Ripper and
some Phantom of the Opera thrown in for good measure.
To teach Leela about her human ancestors The Doctor decides to
take Leela to a theatre in Victorian London... a foggy Victoria
London where mysterious things have been going on in the cellar
of the local theatre and women have been going missing... surely
not a coincidence?
Basically, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" is what happens when
Doctor Who, or more accurately Philip Hinchcliffe, decides to
mash together Victorian penny dreadfuls, music hall variety
halls, time travel paradoxes, and just to give everyone a scare,
a dodgy looking giant rat in the sewer... Oh hang on, they have
Ah yes. The giant rat. I forgot to mention in my review that The New
Avengers did exactly the same story with a giant rat killing people in
the sewers of London with I think Peter Cushing playing the role of the
mad scientist. I think Robert Holmes reused exactly the same script for
The New Avengers in exactly the same year.
Now you recall. What about a cliffhanger?
improved the rat for the Blu-ray Collection version... with the
"updated special effects" option turned on it looks a bit more
ratty and less 'fluffy toy zoomed-in'. Blasphemy!
The cast of characters in this story are absolutely wonderful...
Mr Jago and Professor Litefoot were so popular as supporting
characters they went on to have their own range of audio
stories. Mr Sin is memorable because he looks like a creepy
ventriloquist dummy but is actually a violent cyborg assassin. A
very deadly midget! Whilst the magician Li H'sen Chang might be
more memorable for other reasons, as he was played by a white
actor yellowing up. Which is now frowned upon by the let's not
offend absolutely anyone brigade. (Racial stereotyping... blah
blah blah... fuck off!)
The real villain is a time traveller from the future, Magnus
Greel who is on the run from the authorities in the 51st
century... now masquerading as the Chinese god Weng-Chiang.
Greel was originally planned to be the decayed Master from "The
Deadly Assassin" but Philip Hinchcliffe changed this idea.
I didn't know that but I noticed similarities to the situation of the
Master.
An Interesting change.
The six parts flew by this afternoon and I didn't feel the story
dragged at all watching the episodes one after the other! - An
I watched them all back to back too without even pausing in between.
empty house, unlimited tea and biscuits... a perfect afternoon.
This was more top tier Doctor Who, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang"
was well written and well produced. It's still a classic.
"The Talons of Weng-Chiang" closed off Season 14 and marked the
end of the Philip Hinchcliffe era... it is a story of its time
but even so it is still a solid Doctor Who story that I feel
warrants a 10/10 as it's very enjoyable.
They don't get any better than this.
Anyone knows about the AI in this episode?
On 4/25/2026 08:42, Blueshirt wrote:
They don't get any better than this.
Definitely not. These stories were top-notch and classics of
British television... "Doctor Who" at its very best.
Agreed....this is one of my personal favorite stories.
--
Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
--Carl Sagan
Verily, in article <10sijn6$1u4i$14@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
Who the hell is carrying the non-existant alr.drwho?
Pretty much every site but yours appears to carry it. It's only
nonexistent to you. It's perfectly existent here.
----
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United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
The Doctor wrote:
In article
<MPG.445692dd689bcccb989d42@news.eternal-september.org>, The
True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <xn0poy72s4i3alo000@post.eweka.nl>, did
blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
I don't normally do that, but everyone was out so I had a
free afternoon... I only stopped to make tea and grab some
biscuits.
I took two breaks, but I resented both of them. It's an
amazing story. I should get this era on DVD.
6 parter!!
Telling people who just watched the six episodes of "The
Talons of Weng-Chiang" that it's a six parter is one of
the most meaningless posts you have ever made!
The Doctor wrote:
Who the hell is carrying the non-existant alr.drwho?
Judging by all the intelligent conversation taking place
over there, every NNTP server apart from NotKnow it seems!
But nobody is really surprised that your company is so
backward, are they? I mean, people only have to look at its
CEO...
Hornplayer9599 wrote:
On 4/25/2026 08:42, Blueshirt wrote:
They don't get any better than this.
Definitely not. These stories were top-notch and classics of
British television... "Doctor Who" at its very best.
Agreed....this is one of my personal favorite stories.
Talons retains it's place in the top tier of "Doctor Who"
stories. It's one of my favourites too.
The Philip Hinchcliffe era is renowned in fandom for it's
quality, re-watching the episodes [in order] just reminds me
how good that era actually was... with story after story
hitting the mark - week after week. It's not hype at all, the
quality was consistently high... this was the show at its peak.
Verily, in article <xn0poydpv4r4l53007@post.eweka.nl>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
Talons retains it's place in the top tier of "Doctor Who"
stories. It's one of my favourites too.
The Philip Hinchcliffe era is renowned in fandom for it's
quality, re-watching the episodes [in order] just reminds me
how good that era actually was... with story after story
hitting the mark - week after week. It's not hype at all, the
quality was consistently high... this was the show at its peak.
Yeah, this rewatch is renewing my appreciation as well. Now *this* is
some TV worth watching!
----
The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
On 25/04/2026 15:35, The Doctor wrote:
In article <10sieks$r8cp$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 24/04/2026 16:14, Blueshirt wrote:
Last week we had a Doctor Who story with a touch of Agatha
Christie about it. This week we get a Doctor Who story with a
Sherlock Holmes flavour.... plus, a whiff of Jack the Ripper and
some Phantom of the Opera thrown in for good measure.
To teach Leela about her human ancestors The Doctor decides to
take Leela to a theatre in Victorian London... a foggy Victoria
London where mysterious things have been going on in the cellar
of the local theatre and women have been going missing... surely
not a coincidence?
Basically, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" is what happens when
Doctor Who, or more accurately Philip Hinchcliffe, decides to
mash together Victorian penny dreadfuls, music hall variety
halls, time travel paradoxes, and just to give everyone a scare,
a dodgy looking giant rat in the sewer... Oh hang on, they have
Ah yes. The giant rat. I forgot to mention in my review that The New
Avengers did exactly the same story with a giant rat killing people in
the sewers of London with I think Peter Cushing playing the role of the
mad scientist. I think Robert Holmes reused exactly the same script for
The New Avengers in exactly the same year.
Now you recall. What about a cliffhanger?
improved the rat for the Blu-ray Collection version... with the
"updated special effects" option turned on it looks a bit more
ratty and less 'fluffy toy zoomed-in'. Blasphemy!
The cast of characters in this story are absolutely wonderful...
Mr Jago and Professor Litefoot were so popular as supporting
characters they went on to have their own range of audio
stories. Mr Sin is memorable because he looks like a creepy
ventriloquist dummy but is actually a violent cyborg assassin. A
very deadly midget! Whilst the magician Li H'sen Chang might be
more memorable for other reasons, as he was played by a white
actor yellowing up. Which is now frowned upon by the let's not
offend absolutely anyone brigade. (Racial stereotyping... blah
blah blah... fuck off!)
The real villain is a time traveller from the future, Magnus
Greel who is on the run from the authorities in the 51st
century... now masquerading as the Chinese god Weng-Chiang.
Greel was originally planned to be the decayed Master from "The
Deadly Assassin" but Philip Hinchcliffe changed this idea.
I didn't know that but I noticed similarities to the situation of the
Master.
An Interesting change.
The six parts flew by this afternoon and I didn't feel the story
dragged at all watching the episodes one after the other! - An
I watched them all back to back too without even pausing in between.
empty house, unlimited tea and biscuits... a perfect afternoon.
This was more top tier Doctor Who, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang"
was well written and well produced. It's still a classic.
"The Talons of Weng-Chiang" closed off Season 14 and marked the
end of the Philip Hinchcliffe era... it is a story of its time
but even so it is still a solid Doctor Who story that I feel
warrants a 10/10 as it's very enjoyable.
They don't get any better than this.
Anyone knows about the AI in this episode?
There wasn't any AI. Mr Sin was created by putting a pig's brain inside
an automaton in order to control it.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
The real villain is a time traveller from the future, Magnus
Greel who is on the run from the authorities in the 51st
century
On 24/04/2026 16:14, Blueshirt wrote:
Last week we had a Doctor Who story with a touch of Agatha
Christie about it. This week we get a Doctor Who story with a
Sherlock Holmes flavour.... plus, a whiff of Jack the Ripper and
some Phantom of the Opera thrown in for good measure.
To teach Leela about her human ancestors The Doctor decides to
take Leela to a theatre in Victorian London... a foggy Victoria
London where mysterious things have been going on in the cellar
of the local theatre and women have been going missing... surely
not a coincidence?
Basically, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" is what happens when
Doctor Who, or more accurately Philip Hinchcliffe, decides to
mash together Victorian penny dreadfuls, music hall variety
halls, time travel paradoxes, and just to give everyone a scare,
a dodgy looking giant rat in the sewer... Oh hang on, they have
Ah yes. The giant rat.
In article <MPG.4456c0afe8d3d97c989d46@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <10sijn6$1u4i$14@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
Who the hell is carrying the non-existant alr.drwho?
Pretty much every site but yours appears to carry it. It's only >nonexistent to you. It's perfectly existent here.
alt.drwho ** invalid news group -- check spelling **
In article <MPG.4456d08f1cdf15a2989d47@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <xn0poydpv4r4l53007@post.eweka.nl>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
Talons retains it's place in the top tier of "Doctor Who"
stories. It's one of my favourites too.
The Philip Hinchcliffe era is renowned in fandom for it's
quality, re-watching the episodes [in order] just reminds me
how good that era actually was... with story after story
hitting the mark - week after week. It's not hype at all, the
quality was consistently high... this was the show at its peak.
Yeah, this rewatch is renewing my appreciation as well. Now *this* is
some TV worth watching!
What about the AI factor here?
What about the AI factor here?
Anyone knows about the AI in this episode?
There wasn't any AI. Mr Sin was created by putting a pig's brain inside
an automaton in order to control it.
It is AI. Just the brain is organic.
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On 25/04/2026 11:12 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
On 24/04/2026 16:14, Blueshirt wrote:
Last week we had a Doctor Who story with a touch of Agatha
Christie about it. This week we get a Doctor Who story with a
Sherlock Holmes flavour.... plus, a whiff of Jack the Ripper and
some Phantom of the Opera thrown in for good measure.
To teach Leela about her human ancestors The Doctor decides to
take Leela to a theatre in Victorian London... a foggy Victoria
London where mysterious things have been going on in the cellar
of the local theatre and women have been going missing... surely
not a coincidence?
Basically, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" is what happens when
Doctor Who, or more accurately Philip Hinchcliffe, decides to
mash together Victorian penny dreadfuls, music hall variety
halls, time travel paradoxes, and just to give everyone a scare,
a dodgy looking giant rat in the sewer... Oh hang on, they have
Ah yes. The giant rat.
Hmm!! Were these giant Rats responsible for the Giant Cats that climbed
the Telecom Tower (BT Tower) in "The Goodies" T.V. show which was about
that vintage, wasn't it??
On 4/25/2026 08:42, Blueshirt wrote:
They don't get any better than this.
Definitely not. These stories were top-notch and classics of
British television... "Doctor Who" at its very best.
Agreed....this is one of my personal favorite stories.
On 25/04/2026 1:14 am, Blueshirt wrote:
<Snip>
The real villain is a time traveller from the future, Magnus
Greel who is on the run from the authorities in the 51st
century
"51st century"?? What is it about the 51st Century that it should be so prominent in a Time Travel Show?? Didn't River Song come back from
Prison then??
On 25/04/2026 1:14 am, Blueshirt wrote:
<Snip>
The real villain is a time traveller from the future, Magnus
Greel who is on the run from the authorities in the 51st
century
"51st century"?? What is it about the 51st Century that it should be so >prominent in a Time Travel Show?? Didn't River Song come back from
Prison then??
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On 25/04/2026 11:12 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
On 24/04/2026 16:14, Blueshirt wrote:
Last week we had a Doctor Who story with a touch of Agatha
Christie about it. This week we get a Doctor Who story with a
Sherlock Holmes flavour.... plus, a whiff of Jack the Ripper and
some Phantom of the Opera thrown in for good measure.
To teach Leela about her human ancestors The Doctor decides to
take Leela to a theatre in Victorian London... a foggy Victoria
London where mysterious things have been going on in the cellar
of the local theatre and women have been going missing... surely
not a coincidence?
Basically, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" is what happens when
Doctor Who, or more accurately Philip Hinchcliffe, decides to
mash together Victorian penny dreadfuls, music hall variety
halls, time travel paradoxes, and just to give everyone a scare,
a dodgy looking giant rat in the sewer... Oh hang on, they have
Ah yes. The giant rat.
Hmm!! Were these giant Rats responsible for the Giant Cats that climbed
the Telecom Tower (BT Tower) in "The Goodies" T.V. show which was about
that vintage, wasn't it??
----
Daniel70
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On 26/04/2026 13:09, Daniel70 wrote:
On 25/04/2026 1:14 am, Blueshirt wrote:
<Snip>
The real villain is a time traveller from the future, Magnus
Greel who is on the run from the authorities in the 51st
century
"51st century"?? What is it about the 51st Century that it should be so
prominent in a Time Travel Show?? Didn't River Song come back from
Prison then??
Moffat decided to expand on the Talons backstory.
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"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
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Talons retains it's place in the top tier of "Doctor Who"
stories. It's one of my favourites too.
The Philip Hinchcliffe era is renowned in fandom for it's
quality, re-watching the episodes [in order] just reminds me
how good that era actually was... with story after story
hitting the mark - week after week. It's not hype at all, the
quality was consistently high... this was the show at its peak.
Yeah, this rewatch is renewing my appreciation as well. Now *this* is
some TV worth watching!
What about the AI factor here?
Do you see AI here?
To me, this episode is a testament to what human beings can create.
There was no AI then, and the people working on it hit it out of the
park.
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What about the AI factor here?
Oh, wait, now I get it. You're asking because I mentioned that The
Robots of Death is relevant to today's AI discussions, aren't you?
The Talons of Weng-Chiang doesn't really apply there, IMO. The moral
lessons here are different. Greel could be a cautionary tale about >power-madness and overreach, but he's so far over the top that I
wouldn't expect many viewers to take a warning from him. Cheng might
carry a lesson about what can happen to us when we trust and follow the >wrong people.
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Anyone knows about the AI in this episode?
There wasn't any AI. Mr Sin was created by putting a pig's brain inside
an automaton in order to control it.
It is AI. Just the brain is organic.
The brain is the intelligence, though. If the brain is organic, that's >organic intelligence.
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On 26/04/2026 3:15 am, Hornplayer9599 wrote:
On 4/25/2026 08:42, Blueshirt wrote:AH!! Hornplayer, Welcome back. I was asking about you in another thread
They don't get any better than this.
Definitely not. These stories were top-notch and classics of
British television... "Doctor Who" at its very best.
Agreed....this is one of my personal favorite stories.
just the other day.
----
Daniel70
On 26/04/2026 13:15, Daniel70 wrote:
On 25/04/2026 11:12 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
On 24/04/2026 16:14, Blueshirt wrote:
Last week we had a Doctor Who story with a touch of Agatha
Christie about it. This week we get a Doctor Who story with a
Sherlock Holmes flavour.... plus, a whiff of Jack the Ripper and
some Phantom of the Opera thrown in for good measure.
To teach Leela about her human ancestors The Doctor decides to
take Leela to a theatre in Victorian London... a foggy Victoria
London where mysterious things have been going on in the cellar
of the local theatre and women have been going missing... surely
not a coincidence?
Basically, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" is what happens when
Doctor Who, or more accurately Philip Hinchcliffe, decides to
mash together Victorian penny dreadfuls, music hall variety
halls, time travel paradoxes, and just to give everyone a scare,
a dodgy looking giant rat in the sewer... Oh hang on, they have
Ah yes. The giant rat.
Hmm!! Were these giant Rats responsible for the Giant Cats that climbed
the Telecom Tower (BT Tower) in "The Goodies" T.V. show which was about
that vintage, wasn't it??
The cat attacking the Post Office Tower came earlier in the Doctor's >timeline.
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"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
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In article <MPG.4457cdf1ee4f913f989d4c@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
[quoted text muted]
To me, this episode is a testament to what human beings can create.
There was no AI then, and the people working on it hit it out of the
park.
MR. Sin was an AI figure.
In article <MPG.4457cf121eae5b90989d4e@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
[quoted text muted]
The brain is the intelligence, though. If the brain is organic, that's >organic intelligence.
Like a cyberman?
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In article <MPG.4457cf121eae5b90989d4e@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
[quoted text muted]
The brain is the intelligence, though. If the brain is organic, that's
organic intelligence.
Like a cyberman?
Yes, exactly. You wouldn't call a cyberman an AI, would you?
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In article <MPG.4457cdf1ee4f913f989d4c@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
[quoted text muted]
To me, this episode is a testament to what human beings can create.
There was no AI then, and the people working on it hit it out of the
park.
MR. Sin was an AI figure.
I disagree. He had an organic brain, so he wasn't AI.
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In article <MPG.44583d238d101efb989d56@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
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In article <MPG.4457cf121eae5b90989d4e@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
[quoted text muted]
The brain is the intelligence, though. If the brain is organic, that's >> >organic intelligence.
Like a cyberman?
Yes, exactly. You wouldn't call a cyberman an AI, would you?
Yes.
The Binky(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation) Doctor wrote:
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In article <MPG.4457cf121eae5b90989d4e@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
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The brain is the intelligence, though. If the brain is organic, that's >> >> >organic intelligence.
Like a cyberman?
Yes, exactly. You wouldn't call a cyberman an AI, would you?
Yes.
I guess you could call Mr. Sin an AI, then, but it wouldn't have much >relevance to today's AI.
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In article <MPG.4459049a86a7c156989d5d@news.eternal-september.org>,
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In article <MPG.4457cf121eae5b90989d4e@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
[quoted text muted]
The brain is the intelligence, though. If the brain is organic, that's
organic intelligence.
Like a cyberman?
Yes, exactly. You wouldn't call a cyberman an AI, would you?
Yes.
I guess you could call Mr. Sin an AI, then, but it wouldn't have much >relevance to today's AI.
As Evil?
What's your point? AI is evil, maybe?
The True Melissa wrote:
What's your point? AI is evil, maybe?
That's a whole different discussion... but on the face
of it I wouldn't call AI inherently evil, as it could
be used for good purposes. However, some people might
use it for evil purposes.
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The True Melissa wrote:
What's your point? AI is evil, maybe?
That's a whole different discussion... but on the face
of it I wouldn't call AI inherently evil, as it could
be used for good purposes. However, some people might
use it for evil purposes.
One must also consider that "evil" and "bad for humanity"
might not be the same thing. We're already seeing people's
brains begin to melt from overuse of AI.
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In article <MPG.4457cf121eae5b90989d4e@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
[quoted text muted]
The brain is the intelligence, though. If the brain is organic, that's
organic intelligence.
Like a cyberman?
Yes, exactly. You wouldn't call a cyberman an AI, would you?
Yes.
I guess you could call Mr. Sin an AI, then, but it wouldn't have much
relevance to today's AI.
As Evil?
What's your point? AI is evil, maybe?
Mr. Sin was less evil than Magnus Greel, IMO. Greel was an immoral >narcissistic psychopath, while Mr. Sin is amoral.
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The True Melissa wrote:
What's your point? AI is evil, maybe?
That's a whole different discussion... but on the face
of it I wouldn't call AI inherently evil, as it could
be used for good purposes. However, some people might
use it for evil purposes.
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The True Melissa wrote:
What's your point? AI is evil, maybe?
That's a whole different discussion... but on the face
of it I wouldn't call AI inherently evil, as it could
be used for good purposes. However, some people might
use it for evil purposes.
One must also consider that "evil" and "bad for humanity" might not be
the same thing. We're already seeing people's brains begin to melt from >overuse of AI.
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The True Melissa wrote:
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The True Melissa wrote:
What's your point? AI is evil, maybe?
That's a whole different discussion... but on the face
of it I wouldn't call AI inherently evil, as it could
be used for good purposes. However, some people might
use it for evil purposes.
One must also consider that "evil" and "bad for humanity"
might not be the same thing. We're already seeing people's
brains begin to melt from overuse of AI.
Yeah, but you can't blame AI for that... that's on the shoulders
of the people using it. I mean, if I stab you with a knife is
it my fault, or the knife's?
At the moment, AI is a product/service to be used by people...
how they use it is on them.
The True Melissa wrote:[snip]
One must also consider that "evil" and "bad for humanity"
might not be the same thing. We're already seeing people's
brains begin to melt from overuse of AI.
Yeah, but you can't blame AI for that... that's on the shoulders
of the people using it. I mean, if I stab you with a knife is
it my fault, or the knife's?
At the moment, AI is a product/service to be used by people...
how they use it is on them.
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The True Melissa wrote:[snip]
One must also consider that "evil" and "bad for
humanity" might not be the same thing. We're already
seeing people's brains begin to melt from overuse of AI.
Yeah, but you can't blame AI for that... that's on the
shoulders of the people using it. I mean, if I stab you with
a knife is it my fault, or the knife's?
At the moment, AI is a product/service to be used by
people... how they use it is on them.
I'm not so sure. It's insidious and addictive.
It's easy to say that only the mentally weak will fall
for it, but don't forget that all kids are mentally weak
by adult standards.
Some embedded AI might turn out to be very useful, but
generative LLMs seem like a bad thing on balance.
In article <10sl2b5$1jj52$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 26/04/2026 13:15, Daniel70 wrote:
On 25/04/2026 11:12 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
On 24/04/2026 16:14, Blueshirt wrote:
Last week we had a Doctor Who story with a touch of Agatha
Christie about it. This week we get a Doctor Who story with a
Sherlock Holmes flavour.... plus, a whiff of Jack the Ripper and
some Phantom of the Opera thrown in for good measure.
To teach Leela about her human ancestors The Doctor decides to
take Leela to a theatre in Victorian London... a foggy Victoria
London where mysterious things have been going on in the cellar
of the local theatre and women have been going missing... surely
not a coincidence?
Basically, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" is what happens when
Doctor Who, or more accurately Philip Hinchcliffe, decides to
mash together Victorian penny dreadfuls, music hall variety
halls, time travel paradoxes, and just to give everyone a scare,
a dodgy looking giant rat in the sewer... Oh hang on, they have
Ah yes. The giant rat.
Hmm!! Were these giant Rats responsible for the Giant Cats that climbed
the Telecom Tower (BT Tower) in "The Goodies" T.V. show which was about
that vintage, wasn't it??
The cat attacking the Post Office Tower came earlier in the Doctor's
timeline.
Was that not WOTAN?
The True Melissa wrote:
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[snip]
The True Melissa wrote:
One must also consider that "evil" and "bad for
humanity" might not be the same thing. We're already
seeing people's brains begin to melt from overuse of AI.
Yeah, but you can't blame AI for that... that's on the
shoulders of the people using it. I mean, if I stab you with
a knife is it my fault, or the knife's?
At the moment, AI is a product/service to be used by
people... how they use it is on them.
I'm not so sure. It's insidious and addictive.
Nah, I haven't prompted a poem in weeks...
Reading RADW is way more addictive.
And insidious.
Probably.
It's easy to say that only the mentally weak will fall
for it, but don't forget that all kids are mentally weak
by adult standards.
The whole world seems mentally weak these days!
Some embedded AI might turn out to be very useful, but
generative LLMs seem like a bad thing on balance.
I'm not sure I agree... but good or bad the toothpaste isn't
going back into the tube. It's something we, and the next
generation, is going to have to deal with.
On 26/04/2026 19:21, The Doctor wrote:
In article <10sl2b5$1jj52$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 26/04/2026 13:15, Daniel70 wrote:
On 25/04/2026 11:12 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
On 24/04/2026 16:14, Blueshirt wrote:
Last week we had a Doctor Who story with a touch of Agatha
Christie about it. This week we get a Doctor Who story with a
Sherlock Holmes flavour.... plus, a whiff of Jack the Ripper and
some Phantom of the Opera thrown in for good measure.
To teach Leela about her human ancestors The Doctor decides to
take Leela to a theatre in Victorian London... a foggy Victoria
London where mysterious things have been going on in the cellar
of the local theatre and women have been going missing... surely
not a coincidence?
Basically, "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" is what happens when
Doctor Who, or more accurately Philip Hinchcliffe, decides to
mash together Victorian penny dreadfuls, music hall variety
halls, time travel paradoxes, and just to give everyone a scare,
a dodgy looking giant rat in the sewer... Oh hang on, they have
Ah yes. The giant rat.
Hmm!! Were these giant Rats responsible for the Giant Cats that climbed >>>> the Telecom Tower (BT Tower) in "The Goodies" T.V. show which was about >>>> that vintage, wasn't it??
The cat attacking the Post Office Tower came earlier in the Doctor's
timeline.
Was that not WOTAN?
No it was The Goodies. Did you not watch the episode?
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The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
Verily, in article <xn0pp104p10alb004@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
At the moment, AI is a product/service to be used by people...
how they use it is on them.
I'm not so sure. It's insidious and addictive. It's easy to say that
only the mentally weak will fall for it, but don't forget that all kids
are mentally weak by adult standards.
On 28/04/2026 12:13 am, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <xn0pp104p10alb004@post.eweka.nl>, did
blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
<Snip>
At the moment, AI is a product/service to be used by people...
how they use it is on them.
I'm not so sure. It's insidious and addictive. It's easy to say that
only the mentally weak will fall for it, but don't forget that all kids
are mentally weak by adult standards.
And, then again, some adults are mentally weak by children's standards. >(Binky(word used by paedophiles to indictate thier joy of child
sxual molestation), I'm looking at YOU!!)
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Daniel70
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