• Recommendations for recording device

    From Steve@steve@nospam.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Thu Mar 9 15:59:47 2023
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    Hi,

    My Blu-ray player recently gave up the ghost, just as my wife bought a
    10-disc box set of Alias Smith and Jones.
    I'm thinking of replacing it with a box that will record as well as
    play. Most of my TV viewing is done via an Apple TV box. Can anyone
    recommend a device that will be able to record the HDMI output from an
    Apple TV box? Oh and play DVDs and Blu-rays of course!
    I live in Spain, so built in Freeview or Freesat is not much use, and
    most of the devices on sale seem to have that.

    Thanks,
    Steve
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  • From Steve@steve@nospam.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Fri Mar 10 16:12:17 2023
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    On 09/03/2023 15:59, Steve wrote:
    Hi,

    My Blu-ray player recently gave up the ghost, just as my wife bought a 10-disc box set of Alias Smith and Jones.
    I'm thinking of replacing it with a box that will record as well as
    play. Most of my TV viewing is done via an Apple TV box. Can anyone recommend a device that will be able to record the HDMI output from an
    Apple TV box? Oh and play DVDs and Blu-rays of course!
    I live in Spain, so built in Freeview or Freesat is not much use, and
    most of the devices on sale seem to have that.

    Thanks,
    Steve

    Since posting this I have learned about something called HDCP which
    would explain why recording devices aren't sold with an HDMI input port.
    So I guess I'll just buy something which will play discs :)
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  • From Max Demian@max_demian@bigfoot.com to uk.media.tv.misc on Fri Mar 10 17:55:47 2023
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    On 10/03/2023 15:12, Steve wrote:
    On 09/03/2023 15:59, Steve wrote:
    Hi,

    My Blu-ray player recently gave up the ghost, just as my wife bought a
    10-disc box set of Alias Smith and Jones.
    I'm thinking of replacing it with a box that will record as well as
    play. Most of my TV viewing is done via an Apple TV box. Can anyone
    recommend a device that will be able to record the HDMI output from an
    Apple TV box? Oh and play DVDs and Blu-rays of course!
    I live in Spain, so built in Freeview or Freesat is not much use, and
    most of the devices on sale seem to have that.

    Since posting this I have learned about something called HDCP which
    would explain why recording devices aren't sold with an HDMI input port.
    So I guess I'll just buy something which will play discs :)

    That doesn't explain why there aren't any DVD recorders that will record
    SD video via SCART/component/composite connections. I used to have one
    of those which was bristling with sockets. I think it was just manufacturer/broadcaster collusion or manufacturer timidity. You can
    still get DVD recorders that will record from their internal Freeview
    tuners, and even Blu-ray recorders.
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    Max Demian

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  • From MikeS@MikeS@fred.com to uk.media.tv.misc on Sun Mar 12 10:30:46 2023
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    On 10/03/2023 17:55, Max Demian wrote:
    On 10/03/2023 15:12, Steve wrote:
    On 09/03/2023 15:59, Steve wrote:
    Hi,

    My Blu-ray player recently gave up the ghost, just as my wife bought
    a 10-disc box set of Alias Smith and Jones.
    I'm thinking of replacing it with a box that will record as well as
    play. Most of my TV viewing is done via an Apple TV box. Can anyone
    recommend a device that will be able to record the HDMI output from
    an Apple TV box? Oh and play DVDs and Blu-rays of course!
    I live in Spain, so built in Freeview or Freesat is not much use, and
    most of the devices on sale seem to have that.

    Since posting this I have learned about something called HDCP which
    would explain why recording devices aren't sold with an HDMI input
    port. So I guess I'll just buy something which will play discs :)

    That doesn't explain why there aren't any DVD recorders that will record
    SD video via SCART/component/composite connections. I used to have one
    of those which was bristling with sockets. I think it was just manufacturer/broadcaster collusion or manufacturer timidity. You can
    still get DVD recorders that will record from their internal Freeview tuners, and even Blu-ray recorders.

    Possibly because the market for DVD recorders is shrinking rapidly and
    even fewer want to record SD video.
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  • From Max Demian@max_demian@bigfoot.com to uk.media.tv.misc on Sun Mar 12 12:16:02 2023
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    On 12/03/2023 10:30, MikeS wrote:
    On 10/03/2023 17:55, Max Demian wrote:
    On 10/03/2023 15:12, Steve wrote:

    Since posting this I have learned about something called HDCP which
    would explain why recording devices aren't sold with an HDMI input
    port. So I guess I'll just buy something which will play discs :)

    That doesn't explain why there aren't any DVD recorders that will
    record SD video via SCART/component/composite connections. I used to
    have one of those which was bristling with sockets. I think it was
    just manufacturer/broadcaster collusion or manufacturer timidity. You
    can still get DVD recorders that will record from their internal
    Freeview tuners, and even Blu-ray recorders.

    Possibly because the market for DVD recorders is shrinking rapidly and
    even fewer want to record SD video.

    That doesn't explain the existence (and continued availability) of ones
    that *will* record from Freeview but not an external source, like the Panasonic DMR-EX97: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B015341TLG/ which I possess.
    --
    Max Demian

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  • From NY@me@privacy.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Sun Mar 12 21:09:59 2023
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    "Max Demian" <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:tukfq0$32b0m$1@dont-email.me...
    On 12/03/2023 10:30, MikeS wrote:
    Possibly because the market for DVD recorders is shrinking rapidly and
    even fewer want to record SD video.

    That doesn't explain the existence (and continued availability) of ones
    that *will* record from Freeview but not an external source, like the Panasonic DMR-EX97: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B015341TLG/ which I
    possess.

    Not being able to record SD video from an external source avoids the need
    for an analogue to digital converter, since all the inputs that you'd record from would be analogue - composite or RF. The ability to record from HDMI, even from an SD source, is blocked by HDCP copy-protection.

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