• Wimbledon EPG screw up on BBC again

    From Martin@me@address.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Wed Jun 29 14:26:05 2022
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    Why does the BBC continue to swap tennis for other programmes from BBC 2 to BBC1
    without updating the EPG. If they want to have Wimbledon on BBC1, why not programme to have it there to start with? Nice to have a recording of tennis instead of Sherwood?
    --

    Martin in Zuid Holland



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  • From Stephen Wolstenholme@steve@easynn.com to uk.media.tv.misc on Wed Jun 29 13:58:17 2022
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    On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 14:26:05 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

    Why does the BBC continue to swap tennis for other programmes from BBC 2 to BBC1
    without updating the EPG. If they want to have Wimbledon on BBC1, why not >programme to have it there to start with? Nice to have a recording of tennis >instead of Sherwood?

    The starting on one channel and then moving to another is a bit tricky
    for recorders. I don't know any type of recorder that can follow a
    series of programs that changes channels. My recorder waits for the
    program to start on one channel and expects it to stay in the same
    place.

    Steve
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  • From Mike Swift@mike.swift@yeton.co.uk to uk.media.tv.misc on Wed Jun 29 14:42:59 2022
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    In article <n8iobhh29694e318lkg8j4b9vrkfersg1j@4ax.com>, Stephen
    Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> writes
    The starting on one channel and then moving to another is a bit tricky for >recorders. I don't know any type of recorder that can follow a series of >programs that changes channels. My recorder waits for the program to start
    on one channel and expects it to stay in the same place.

    My Virgin V6 manages up to a point but I think it would struggle with
    the tennis.

    I have a series link for Countryfile on BBC 1, I wondered why it was
    missing next Sunday, seems the Beeb has swapped it to BBC 2, the series
    link menu has an option to set it to ALL rather than a channel, this set
    it to record.

    Mike
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  • From JNugent@jennings&co@fastmail.fm to uk.media.tv.misc on Wed Jun 29 15:44:32 2022
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    On 29/06/2022 01:26 pm, Martin wrote:

    Why does the BBC continue to swap tennis for other programmes from BBC 2 to BBC1
    without updating the EPG. If they want to have Wimbledon on BBC1, why not programme to have it there to start with? Nice to have a recording of tennis instead of Sherwood?

    +1!
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  • From JNugent@jennings&co@fastmail.fm to uk.media.tv.misc on Wed Jun 29 15:47:03 2022
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    On 29/06/2022 01:58 pm, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 14:26:05 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

    Why does the BBC continue to swap tennis for other programmes from BBC 2 to BBC1
    without updating the EPG. If they want to have Wimbledon on BBC1, why not
    programme to have it there to start with? Nice to have a recording of tennis >> instead of Sherwood?

    The starting on one channel and then moving to another is a bit tricky
    for recorders. I don't know any type of recorder that can follow a
    series of programs that changes channels. My recorder waits for the
    program to start on one channel and expects it to stay in the same
    place.

    Steve

    Exactly.

    But if the Sky EPG had been updated (by the BBC, or at least, on the
    BBC's information), a Sky+ box would have managed to get "Sherwood".

    I don't accept that as many people watch live-transmitted sport via an
    off-air video-recording, as compared with the number of people who watch proper TV programmes via an off-air recording.

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  • From Martin@me@address.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Thu Jun 30 11:14:16 2022
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    On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 13:58:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 14:26:05 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

    Why does the BBC continue to swap tennis for other programmes from BBC 2 to BBC1
    without updating the EPG. If they want to have Wimbledon on BBC1, why not >>programme to have it there to start with? Nice to have a recording of tennis >>instead of Sherwood?

    The starting on one channel and then moving to another is a bit tricky
    for recorders. I don't know any type of recorder that can follow a
    series of programs that changes channels. My recorder waits for the
    program to start on one channel and expects it to stay in the same
    place.

    That's the reason the BBC shouldn't do it. Last night viewers who set PVRs to record tennis got an old episode of "Not going out". Lucky them :-)
    --

    Martin in Zuid Holland



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  • From Martin@me@address.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Thu Jun 30 11:19:55 2022
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    On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 15:47:03 +0100, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    On 29/06/2022 01:58 pm, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 14:26:05 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

    Why does the BBC continue to swap tennis for other programmes from BBC 2 to BBC1
    without updating the EPG. If they want to have Wimbledon on BBC1, why not >>> programme to have it there to start with? Nice to have a recording of tennis
    instead of Sherwood?

    The starting on one channel and then moving to another is a bit tricky
    for recorders. I don't know any type of recorder that can follow a
    series of programs that changes channels. My recorder waits for the
    program to start on one channel and expects it to stay in the same
    place.

    Steve

    Exactly.

    But if the Sky EPG had been updated (by the BBC, or at least, on the
    BBC's information), a Sky+ box would have managed to get "Sherwood".

    I don't accept that as many people watch live-transmitted sport via an >off-air video-recording, as compared with the number of people who watch >proper TV programmes via an off-air recording.

    The BBC have 7 channels showing tennis ATM. Why do they have to try to boost BBC1 viewing figures by switching between BBC2 and BBC1. Incidentally one of the
    BBC Red Button channels had awful quality. It had to be the one showing the match my wife wanted to watch.
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    Martin in Zuid Holland



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  • From Mike Swift@mike.swift@yeton.co.uk to uk.media.tv.misc on Thu Jun 30 12:48:17 2022
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    In article <ldqqbhlvr04sa2rp230bf5t8r2siansk7h@4ax.com>, Martin <me@address.invalid> writes
    The BBC have 7 channels showing tennis ATM. Why do they have to try to
    boost BBC1 viewing figures by switching between BBC2 and BBC1.
    Incidentally one of the BBC Red Button channels had awful quality. It had to >be the one showing the match my wife wanted to watch.
    --
    If it was the Centre Court one in UHD / 4K it was unwatchable even on my
    UHD TV, flat and red tinted.

    I get great UHD on other iPLayer stuff such as Natural History as well
    as good UHD on BT Sports, Virgin Ultra and You Tube.

    Mike
    --
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    Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
    Yorkshire Halvard Lange
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  • From Gordon Freeman@Gordon@freeman.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Sun Jul 3 22:26:01 2022
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.misc

    Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

    Why does the BBC continue to swap tennis for other programmes
    from BBC
    2 to BBC1 without updating the EPG. If they want to have
    Wimbledon on
    BBC1, why not programme to have it there to start with? Nice to
    have a
    recording of tennis instead of Sherwood?

    I think they're trying to convey the back and forth vibe of a
    tennis match. Maybe what they should do is show the court from
    opposite ends on the two channels. Or switch channels on each
    change of serve.

    Fortunately the Tour de France stays resolutely on ITV4 so I'm
    happy. And despite the massive five-deep crowds lining the
    highways and byways of Denmark, I was gratified to hear the famous
    former sprinter Marcel Kittel say today that in his opinion they
    didn't quite match the crowds at the Grand Depart in Yorkshire a
    few years ago. (And I'm sure the fact that he won the yellow
    jersey in Yorkshire hasn't coloured his perceptions in the
    slightest!)
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  • From Richard Evans@R.P.Evans.NoSpam@Sky.com to uk.media.tv.misc on Fri Jul 8 18:11:10 2022
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    On 29/06/2022 13:26, Martin wrote:
    If they want to have Wimbledon on BBC1, why not
    programme to have it there to start with?

    I'm not interested in tennis, and I find it irritating that
    both BBC1 and BBC2 seem to have tennis all day.

    However, to answer the question. I would think changes to the
    EPG are because nobody knows how long each match is going to
    take.
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  • From Richard Evans@R.P.Evans.NoSpam@Sky.com to uk.media.tv.misc on Fri Jul 8 18:15:21 2022
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    On 29/06/2022 13:58, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:


    The starting on one channel and then moving to another is a bit tricky
    for recorders.

    After a few days, I realized my PVR was not recording Eastenders,
    because it had moved from BBC1 to BBC2 Grrr....
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  • From Jim The Geordie@jim@jimXscott.co.uk to uk.media.tv.misc on Fri Jul 8 18:18:28 2022
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.misc

    On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 18:15:21 +0100, Richard Evans wrote:

    On 29/06/2022 13:58, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:


    The starting on one channel and then moving to another is a bit tricky
    for recorders.

    After a few days, I realized my PVR was not recording Eastenders,
    because it had moved from BBC1 to BBC2 Grrr....

    It's the BBC's way of protecting you from yourself :)
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  • From Mike Swift@mike.swift@yeton.co.uk to uk.media.tv.misc on Sat Jul 9 01:05:20 2022
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    In article <gwvq79jh912d$.idru41xff368.dlg@40tude.net>, Jim The Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> writes
    The starting on one channel and then moving to another is a bit tricky
    for recorders.

    After a few days, I realized my PVR was not recording Eastenders,
    because it had moved from BBC1 to BBC2 Grrr....

    It's the BBC's way of protecting you from yourself :)

    LOL

    Mike
    --
    Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
    Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
    Yorkshire Halvard Lange
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  • From Richard Evans@R.P.Evans.NoSpam@Sky.com to uk.media.tv.misc on Sun Jul 10 15:05:30 2022
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.misc

    On 08/07/2022 18:18, Jim The Geordie wrote:

    After a few days, I realized my PVR was not recording Eastenders,
    because it had moved from BBC1 to BBC2 Grrr....

    It's the BBC's way of protecting you from yourself :)

    It's was the BBC denying my a chance to escape from reality for a while.
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  • From Mike Swift@mike.swift@yeton.co.uk to uk.media.tv.misc on Mon Jul 11 01:18:35 2022
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.misc

    In article <taembc$1u9h$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Richard Evans <R.P.Evans.NoSpam@Sky.com> writes
    After a few days, I realized my PVR was not recording Eastenders,
    because it had moved from BBC1 to BBC2 Grrr....

    It's the BBC's way of protecting you from yourself :)

    It's was the BBC denying my a chance to escape from reality for a while.

    Surely most of the stuff the BBC transmits has little to do with
    reality,
    especially the news.

    Mike
    --
    Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
    Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
    Yorkshire Halvard Lange
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  • From Martin@me@address.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Tue Jul 12 09:52:35 2022
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    On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 01:18:35 +0100, Mike Swift <mike.swift@yeton.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <taembc$1u9h$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Richard Evans ><R.P.Evans.NoSpam@Sky.com> writes
    After a few days, I realized my PVR was not recording Eastenders,
    because it had moved from BBC1 to BBC2 Grrr....

    It's the BBC's way of protecting you from yourself :)

    It's was the BBC denying my a chance to escape from reality for a while.

    Surely most of the stuff the BBC transmits has little to do with
    reality,
    especially the news.

    You refer to the BBC. revealing in interviews with ministers, what bunch if shits have been running the country? :-)
    --

    Martin in Zuid Holland



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  • From Mike Swift@mike.swift@yeton.co.uk to uk.media.tv.misc on Tue Jul 12 11:40:19 2022
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    In article <tt9qch91v91hmoklq307joq02mliejevnf@4ax.com>, Martin <me@address.invalid> writes
    It's the BBC's way of protecting you from yourself :)

    It's was the BBC denying my a chance to escape from reality for a while.

    Surely most of the stuff the BBC transmits has little to do with
    reality,
    especially the news.

    You refer to the BBC. revealing in interviews with ministers, what bunch if >shits have been running the country? :-)
    --

    Exactly, proves my point perfectly.

    Mike
    --
    Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
    Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
    Yorkshire Halvard Lange
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  • From Martin@me@address.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Tue Jul 12 13:00:57 2022
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    On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 11:40:19 +0100, Mike Swift <mike.swift@yeton.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <tt9qch91v91hmoklq307joq02mliejevnf@4ax.com>, Martin ><me@address.invalid> writes
    It's the BBC's way of protecting you from yourself :)

    It's was the BBC denying my a chance to escape from reality for a while. >>>
    Surely most of the stuff the BBC transmits has little to do with
    reality,
    especially the news.

    You refer to the BBC. revealing in interviews with ministers, what bunch if >>shits have been running the country? :-)
    --

    Exactly, proves my point perfectly.

    You prefer not to hear the views of ministers?
    --

    Martin in Zuid Holland



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  • From JNugent@jennings&co@fastmail.fm to uk.media.tv.misc on Tue Jul 12 12:02:52 2022
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    On 09/07/2022 01:05 am, Mike Swift wrote:

    Jim The Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> writes

    The starting on one channel and then moving to another is a bit tricky >>>> for recorders.

    After a few days, I realized my PVR was not recording Eastenders,
    because it had moved from BBC1 to BBC2 Grrr....

    It's the BBC's way of protecting you from yourself :)

    LOL

    I have never seen the film "Half A Sixpence" and it was scheduled (on
    BBC2, I think) a few days ago.

    So being a Wells fan, I set two recorders for it - Sky + and HDD/DVD-R.

    I got two hours of gardening and other such delights.
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  • From Mike Swift@mike.swift@yeton.co.uk to uk.media.tv.misc on Wed Jul 13 01:11:50 2022
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    In article <s1lqch5icb45486nit1fcpitduijg6r1q9@4ax.com>, Martin <me@address.invalid> writes
    You refer to the BBC. revealing in interviews with ministers, what bunch if >>>shits have been running the country? :-)
    --

    Exactly, proves my point perfectly.

    You prefer not to hear the views of ministers?

    Not on the BBC, Red Laura was one sided but the new political reporter
    is so far to the left he's in Mid Atlantic.

    Mike
    --
    Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
    Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
    Yorkshire Halvard Lange
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  • From pete@pete@never.here to uk.media.tv.misc on Wed Jul 13 09:43:02 2022
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    On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 01:11:50 +0100, Mike Swift
    <mike.swift@yeton.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <s1lqch5icb45486nit1fcpitduijg6r1q9@4ax.com>, Martin ><me@address.invalid> writes
    You refer to the BBC. revealing in interviews with ministers, what bunch if
    shits have been running the country? :-)
    --

    Exactly, proves my point perfectly.

    You prefer not to hear the views of ministers?

    Not on the BBC, Red Laura was one sided but the new political reporter
    is so far to the left he's in Mid Atlantic.

    Mike

    And he's a Yorkshireman too. There's no pleasing some people <bg>
    --
    Pete

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  • From Mike Swift@mike.swift@yeton.co.uk to uk.media.tv.misc on Wed Jul 13 12:21:23 2022
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    In article <l81tch1oc7vduj12odtjhs6fqpnn26eefh@4ax.com>, pete@never.here writes
    You refer to the BBC. revealing in interviews with ministers, what bunch if
    shits have been running the country? :-)
    --

    Exactly, proves my point perfectly.

    You prefer not to hear the views of ministers?

    Not on the BBC, Red Laura was one sided but the new political reporter
    is so far to the left he's in Mid Atlantic.

    Mike

    And he's a Yorkshireman too. There's no pleasing some people <bg>

    Didn't know that, doesn't change the fact I think there is something
    about the night about him.

    Mike
    --
    Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
    Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
    Yorkshire Halvard Lange
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  • From Martin@me@address.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Thu Jul 14 10:35:24 2022
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    On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 12:02:52 +0100, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    On 09/07/2022 01:05 am, Mike Swift wrote:

    Jim The Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> writes

    The starting on one channel and then moving to another is a bit tricky >>>>> for recorders.

    After a few days, I realized my PVR was not recording Eastenders,
    because it had moved from BBC1 to BBC2 Grrr....

    It's the BBC's way of protecting you from yourself :)

    LOL

    I have never seen the film "Half A Sixpence" and it was scheduled (on
    BBC2, I think) a few days ago.

    So being a Wells fan, I set two recorders for it - Sky + and HDD/DVD-R.

    I got two hours of gardening and other such delights.

    You were lucky the film is crap. I'm also a Wells fan.
    --

    Martin in Zuid Holland



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  • From Martin@me@address.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Thu Jul 14 10:53:49 2022
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    On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 01:11:50 +0100, Mike Swift <mike.swift@yeton.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <s1lqch5icb45486nit1fcpitduijg6r1q9@4ax.com>, Martin ><me@address.invalid> writes
    You refer to the BBC. revealing in interviews with ministers, what bunch if
    shits have been running the country? :-)
    --

    Exactly, proves my point perfectly.

    You prefer not to hear the views of ministers?

    Not on the BBC, Red Laura was one sided but the new political reporter
    is so far to the left he's in Mid Atlantic.

    Are you talking about Nick Robinson, the BBC's most aggressive interviewer? He was a true blue Conservative when he joined the BBC His previous job was at the Conservative Party head office.

    It's the ministers that are poor not the interviewers. Rishi Sunak was interviewed on Today this morning the interviewer wasn't aggressive. There were three reasonable questions that Rishi Sunak waffled around trying to avoid giving a straight answer. I think Rishi is the best candidate out a bad bunch. I
    doubt if the Conservative party member will vote for him to be PM.

    If you want to see biased reporting how about this from the front page of the Daily Telegraph this morning.

    "Penny Mordaunt has surged into a prime position in the Tory leadership race, just hours after formally launching her bid.

    The trade minister and former defence secretary came second in the first ballot,
    with 67 votes from Tory MPs - pushing Liz Truss into third, with 50 votes. Rishi
    Sunak was top, with 88 votes."

    Rishi Sunak is in prime position. Penny Mordant came second and Liz Truss came third.
    --

    Martin in Zuid Holland



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  • From Mike Swift@mike.swift@yeton.co.uk to uk.media.tv.misc on Thu Jul 14 12:43:04 2022
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    In article <kblvchdr3p24als84sef1n5csq5535sck5@4ax.com>, Martin <me@address.invalid> writes
    Are you talking about Nick Robinson, the BBC's most aggressive
    interviewer? He was a true blue Conservative when he joined the BBC His >previous job was at the Conservative Party head office.

    No Chris Mason, who took over as Political Editor when Laura moved on.

    We have an app based "Newspaper" called YorkshireLive, it's part of the
    Mirror Group and allegedly reports on Yorkshire news, that is when it's
    not reporting news from all over Britain.

    The quality of "journalism" is appalling and would make a 10 year old
    blush, it seem they don't have a spell checker on their system, grammar
    is dire even to someone like me who failed English twice at my G.C.E.'s
    and the thrust of reports are " I visited *** and ***"", usually a pub, restaurant or beach complete with a Selfie.

    Mike
    --
    Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
    Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
    Yorkshire Halvard Lange
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  • From Martin@me@address.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Sat Jul 16 11:43:54 2022
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    On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 12:43:04 +0100, Mike Swift <mike.swift@yeton.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <kblvchdr3p24als84sef1n5csq5535sck5@4ax.com>, Martin ><me@address.invalid> writes
    Are you talking about Nick Robinson, the BBC's most aggressive
    interviewer? He was a true blue Conservative when he joined the BBC His >>previous job was at the Conservative Party head office.

    No Chris Mason, who took over as Political Editor when Laura moved on.

    We have an app based "Newspaper" called YorkshireLive, it's part of the >Mirror Group and allegedly reports on Yorkshire news, that is when it's
    not reporting news from all over Britain.

    The quality of "journalism" is appalling and would make a 10 year old
    blush, it seem they don't have a spell checker on their system, grammar
    is dire even to someone like me who failed English twice at my G.C.E.'s
    and the thrust of reports are " I visited *** and ***"", usually a pub, >restaurant or beach complete with a Selfie.

    The Express is the same also owned by the Mirror group. I think all UK local newspapers are owned by the same company. The Yorkshire Post used to be very right wing has gone left wing .
    The food reviews in our local Dutch newspaper are the same. I think they are a perk for being the editor. He sucks up to whoever owns the place. He visited the
    local yacht club restaurant actually contracted out to a small chain of crap restaurants. He mentioned how wet they got going their by bike in the rain. The photo is an old photo taken on a sunny day outside the restauarant.The club was
    using the restaurant for some sort of meeting. They had to sit on bar stools at a little round table made for having a drink The main course of a u60 meal (excluding wine) was a steak, The steak was so tough he couldn't even chew it never mind eat it. He b;amed the butcher who supplied the meat. He didn't get something else or a refund. He marked the meal 7/10 the same as he marks most meals. He obviously can't budget. He spent u60/person at the beginning of the month and similar amounts in other restaurants until the last week of the month when he went to a cafe and spent u5 on sandwiches and a cup of coffee. It's the same every month.
    --

    Martin in Zuid Holland



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  • From JNugent@jennings&co@fastmail.fm to uk.media.tv.misc on Sat Jul 16 13:10:25 2022
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    On 16/07/2022 10:43 am, Martin wrote:

    Mike Swift <mike.swift@yeton.co.uk> wrote:
    Martin <me@address.invalid> writes

    Are you talking about Nick Robinson, the BBC's most aggressive
    interviewer? He was a true blue Conservative when he joined the BBC His
    previous job was at the Conservative Party head office.

    No Chris Mason, who took over as Political Editor when Laura moved on.

    We have an app based "Newspaper" called YorkshireLive, it's part of the
    Mirror Group and allegedly reports on Yorkshire news, that is when it's
    not reporting news from all over Britain.

    The quality of "journalism" is appalling and would make a 10 year old
    blush, it seem they don't have a spell checker on their system, grammar
    is dire even to someone like me who failed English twice at my G.C.E.'s
    and the thrust of reports are " I visited *** and ***"", usually a pub,
    restaurant or beach complete with a Selfie.

    The Express is the same also owned by the Mirror group. I think all UK local
    newspapers are owned by the same company. The Yorkshire Post used to be very right wing has gone left wing .

    Much the same is true of the former (and famous) Liverpool Echo, which
    is now effectively the Manchester Labour Party Echo.

    The company which owns these former newspapers, the Maxwell Press (irrespective of its actual name), is now called "Reach".

    One wonders why the MMC had nothing to say about the Daily Express being bought by the Maxwell Press. It's a clear case of reduction of political coverage and if something analogous were happening in broadcasting,
    there'd be a hue and cry over it.

    Oh... hang on...

    There IS a hue and cry over the forthcoming privatisation of Channel 4...

    The food reviews in our local Dutch newspaper are the same. I think they are a
    perk for being the editor. He sucks up to whoever owns the place. He visited the
    local yacht club restaurant actually contracted out to a small chain of crap restaurants. He mentioned how wet they got going their by bike in the rain. The
    photo is an old photo taken on a sunny day outside the restauarant.The club was
    using the restaurant for some sort of meeting. They had to sit on bar stools at
    a little round table made for having a drink The main course of a -u60 meal (excluding wine) was a steak, The steak was so tough he couldn't even chew it never mind eat it. He b;amed the butcher who supplied the meat. He didn't get something else or a refund. He marked the meal 7/10 the same as he marks most meals. He obviously can't budget. He spent -u60/person at the beginning of the
    month and similar amounts in other restaurants until the last week of the month
    when he went to a cafe and spent -u5 on sandwiches and a cup of coffee. It's the
    same every month.


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  • From Calum@com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat to uk.media.tv.misc on Sat Jul 16 15:33:01 2022
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.misc

    On 13/07/2022 01:11, Mike Swift wrote:

    Not on the BBC, Red Laura was one sided but the new political reporter
    is so far to the left he's in Mid Atlantic.

    "Red Laura" who "has been accused of being embedded within the Tory
    party, of being the personal tribune of Dominic Cummings, of being too
    light on lying Leavers, of being openly dismissive of the Corbyn
    leadership"?

    The one who has "faced intense abuse over perceived bias rCo both leftwing
    and pro-Tory"?

    The one who was "accused of acting as an unofficial spokesperson for
    Boris JohnsonrCOs government after her report on the ToriesrCO plan to hike National Insurance (NI) contributions"?

    The one who had a change.org petition started against her because she
    "has used Twitter in a way to undermine Jeremy Corbyn and has
    demonstrated a bias against the labour party in her editorial duties"?

    People see what they want to see.
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  • From Mike Swift@mike.swift@yeton.co.uk to uk.media.tv.misc on Sun Jul 17 01:49:25 2022
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.misc

    In article <taui6t$ch1$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> writes
    People see what they want to see.

    I saw what was a person who gave Labour an easy time but ripped into the Tories.
    I expect to see balanced reporting from the BBC, something sadly missing
    for many years.

    Mike
    --
    Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
    Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
    Yorkshire Halvard Lange
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  • From Martin@me@address.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Mon Jul 18 12:38:02 2022
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.misc

    On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 13:10:25 +0100, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    On 16/07/2022 10:43 am, Martin wrote:

    Mike Swift <mike.swift@yeton.co.uk> wrote:
    Martin <me@address.invalid> writes

    Are you talking about Nick Robinson, the BBC's most aggressive
    interviewer? He was a true blue Conservative when he joined the BBC His >>>> previous job was at the Conservative Party head office.

    No Chris Mason, who took over as Political Editor when Laura moved on.

    We have an app based "Newspaper" called YorkshireLive, it's part of the
    Mirror Group and allegedly reports on Yorkshire news, that is when it's
    not reporting news from all over Britain.

    The quality of "journalism" is appalling and would make a 10 year old
    blush, it seem they don't have a spell checker on their system, grammar
    is dire even to someone like me who failed English twice at my G.C.E.'s
    and the thrust of reports are " I visited *** and ***"", usually a pub,
    restaurant or beach complete with a Selfie.

    The Express is the same also owned by the Mirror group. I think all UK local
    newspapers are owned by the same company. The Yorkshire Post used to be very >> right wing has gone left wing .

    Much the same is true of the former (and famous) Liverpool Echo, which
    is now effectively the Manchester Labour Party Echo.

    The company which owns these former newspapers, the Maxwell Press >(irrespective of its actual name), is now called "Reach".

    One wonders why the MMC had nothing to say about the Daily Express being >bought by the Maxwell Press. It's a clear case of reduction of political >coverage and if something analogous were happening in broadcasting,
    there'd be a hue and cry over it.

    but the Daily Express is just as it has always been with same editor and journalists. It has been a crap newspaper for decades. That's why it went bust.


    Oh... hang on...

    There IS a hue and cry over the forthcoming privatisation of Channel 4...

    Of course there is 98% want to keep Channel 4 as it is.
    --

    Martin in Zuid Holland



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  • From Martin@me@address.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Mon Jul 18 12:41:56 2022
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.misc

    On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 01:49:25 +0100, Mike Swift <mike.swift@yeton.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <taui6t$ch1$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Calum ><com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> writes
    People see what they want to see.

    I saw what was a person who gave Labour an easy time but ripped into the >Tories.
    I expect to see balanced reporting from the BBC, something sadly missing
    for many years.

    Mike

    You deleted the part of Calum's post that showed that she is not biased other than perhaps in her dislike of dishonest politicians.
    --

    Martin in Zuid Holland



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  • From Mike Swift@mike.swift@yeton.co.uk to uk.media.tv.misc on Mon Jul 18 13:04:11 2022
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.misc

    In article <93eadh5baqr39mhgikadt4q9ljdmj03uoa@4ax.com>, Martin <me@address.invalid> writes
    I saw what was a person who gave Labour an easy time but ripped into the >>Tories.
    I expect to see balanced reporting from the BBC, something sadly missing >>for many years.

    Mike

    You deleted the part of Calum's post that showed that she is not biased
    other than perhaps in her dislike of dishonest politicians.

    Funny how Starmer and Krankie are never questioned about their wrong
    doings, or Golden Boy Sunak for that matter.

    The disgraceful piece about the Woman's football team being all white
    sums up the BBC perfectly, strange how they don't mention that the
    athletics running team is mainly black.

    Teams are chosen from the best people available, time the BBC realised
    they can't force diversity on sport, or any other part of our culture.

    Mike
    --
    Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
    Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
    Yorkshire Halvard Lange
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  • From Martin@me@address.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Thu Jul 21 12:04:26 2022
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.misc

    On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 13:04:11 +0100, Mike Swift <mike.swift@yeton.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <93eadh5baqr39mhgikadt4q9ljdmj03uoa@4ax.com>, Martin ><me@address.invalid> writes
    I saw what was a person who gave Labour an easy time but ripped into the >>>Tories.
    I expect to see balanced reporting from the BBC, something sadly missing >>>for many years.

    Mike

    You deleted the part of Calum's post that showed that she is not biased >>other than perhaps in her dislike of dishonest politicians.

    Funny how Starmer and Krankie are never questioned about their wrong
    doings, or Golden Boy Sunak for that matter.

    According to Nick Robinson The Daily Mail always backs the right horse in Conservative leader elections. They must be influenced by the DM's arguments such as this in today's DM
    "While I believe the coup against Boris will be seen as a historic mistake, Liz Truss must be the next Prime Minister of the UK. Fishy Rishi Sunak is a globalist droid who cannot be trusted" No mention Liz Trush's crush and constantly changes of mind.

    "
    --

    Martin in Zuid Holland



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  • From Gordon Freeman@Gordon@freeman.invalid to uk.media.tv.misc on Mon Jul 25 02:55:18 2022
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.tv.misc

    Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

    According to Nick Robinson The Daily Mail always backs the right
    horse in Conservative leader elections.

    That's the problem, the tory leaders are all horses, or should I
    say jackasses.
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