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    From carolet@carolet.umrat@gmail.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Sat Aug 29 21:40:09 2026
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    Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.

    Cast :
    Jolene Archer - Buffy Davis
    Henry Archer - Blayke Darby
    Natasha Carter - Mali Harries
    Pat Archer - Patricia Gallimore
    Lilian Bellamy - Sunny Ormonde
    Harrison Burns - James Cartwright
    Justin Elliott - Simon Williams
    Alan Franks - John Telfer
    Amber Gordon - Olivia Bernstone
    George Grundy - Angus Stobie
    Chelsea Horrobin - Madeleine Leslay
    Khalil Malik - Krish Bassi
    Esme Mulligan - Ellie Pawsey
    Lily Pargetter - Katie Redford
    Fallon Rogers - Joanna Van Kampen
    Anne Marie Gordon - Kate Ashfield
    Leon - Khalid Daley

    Writer : Sarah Mcdonald Hughes
    Director : Peter Leslie Wild
    Editor : Jeremy Howe

    S

    P

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    S

    Spoilers:
    Sunday 30th - Fallon feels out of place, and JustinrCOs confidence takes a bashing.
    Monday 31st - Alan loses his temper, while Jolene makes an unexpected offer Tuesday 1st - Lilian attempts to offer some words of comfort, while Pat
    has a bone to pick
    Wednesday 2nd - Natasha hatches a plan, while Harrison is touched by a surprising notion
    Thursday 3rd - George finds himself in trouble, and Alan is keen to make amends.
    Friday 4th - Lily makes a big decision, and George is desperate for a
    second chance.



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    RT Review by David Crawford

    ThererCOs a general air of unease hanging over Ambridge this week. Fallon feels out of place when a visitor arrives, which kicks off fraught
    discussions about the future. Henry and KhalilrCOs dread at the prospect
    of returning to school fades into insignificance when they find
    themselves in trouble.

    JustinrCOs confidence is dented by a fellow residentrCOs actions, while George, determined to earn more money, lands in trouble when he uses his
    sick leave to his advantage.
    --
    CaroleT
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  • From carolet@carolet.umrat@gmail.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Sun Aug 30 14:51:16 2026
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    On 29/08/2026 21:40, carolet wrote:
    Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.

    Cast-a-a-a :
    Jolene Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Buffy Davis
    Henry Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Blayke Darby
    Natasha Carter-a-a-a --a-a-a Mali Harries
    Pat Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Patricia Gallimore
    Lilian Bellamy-a-a-a --a-a-a Sunny Ormonde
    Harrison Burns-a-a-a --a-a-a James Cartwright
    Justin Elliott-a-a-a --a-a-a Simon Williams
    Alan Franks-a-a-a --a-a-a John Telfer
    Amber Gordon-a-a-a --a-a-a Olivia Bernstone
    George Grundy-a-a-a --a-a-a Angus Stobie
    Chelsea Horrobin-a-a-a --a-a-a Madeleine Leslay
    Khalil Malik-a-a-a --a-a-a Krish Bassi
    Esme Mulligan-a-a-a --a-a-a Ellie Pawsey
    Lily Pargetter-a-a-a --a-a-a Katie Redford
    Fallon Rogers-a-a-a --a-a-a Joanna Van Kampen
    Anne Marie Gordon-a-a-a --a-a-a Kate Ashfield
    Leon-a-a-a --a-a-a Khalid Daley

    Writer-a-a-a :-a-a-a Sarah Mcdonald Hughes
    Director-a-a-a :-a-a-a Peter Leslie Wild
    Editor-a-a-a :-a-a-a Jeremy Howe



    I've just realised that they have got Natasha's name wrong. They've
    managed to give her surname as Carter rather than Archer, but they have
    left her in the correct alphabetical order for Archer.
    --
    CaroleT

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  • From Kosmo@krw@whitnet.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Sun Aug 30 15:23:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 29.8.26 21:40, carolet wrote:
    George, determined to earn more money, lands in trouble when he uses his sick leave to his advantage.

    I am sure we all saw that coming when we heard he was working cash in
    hand. These days it is almost impossible to find a trader who takes
    cash. One plumber did a while back but even he was reluctant. The more recent plumber was insistent on sending invoices. I think HMRC has put
    the fear of god into them.
    --
    Kosmo Richard W
    www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
    https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.media.radio.archers on Sun Aug 30 20:50:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 14:51:16 +0100, carolet <carolet.umrat@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 29/08/2026 21:40, carolet wrote:
    Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.

    Castaaa :
    Jolene Archeraaa -aaa Buffy Davis
    Henry Archeraaa -aaa Blayke Darby
    Natasha Carteraaa -aaa Mali Harries
    Pat Archeraaa -aaa Patricia Gallimore
    Lilian Bellamyaaa -aaa Sunny Ormonde
    Harrison Burnsaaa -aaa James Cartwright
    Justin Elliottaaa -aaa Simon Williams
    Alan Franksaaa -aaa John Telfer
    Amber Gordonaaa -aaa Olivia Bernstone
    George Grundyaaa -aaa Angus Stobie
    Chelsea Horrobinaaa -aaa Madeleine Leslay
    Khalil Malikaaa -aaa Krish Bassi
    Esme Mulliganaaa -aaa Ellie Pawsey
    Lily Pargetteraaa -aaa Katie Redford
    Fallon Rogersaaa -aaa Joanna Van Kampen
    Anne Marie Gordonaaa -aaa Kate Ashfield
    Leonaaa -aaa Khalid Daley

    Writeraaa :aaa Sarah Mcdonald Hughes
    Directoraaa :aaa Peter Leslie Wild
    Editoraaa :aaa Jeremy Howe



    I've just realised that they have got Natasha's name wrong. They've
    managed to give her surname as Carter rather than Archer, but they have
    left her in the correct alphabetical order for Archer.

    Slip-ups on the programme information pages seem to be becoming more
    common these days.

    One that infuriated me recently involved the addition of two commas
    which completely changed the meaning of the article.

    It was in the Soul Music series. Feeling Good was rebroadcast on Radio
    4 Extra a couple of weeks ago with this line which followed a
    description of the song...

    "The composer, Neil Brand, discusses why the song has gone on to
    transcend the almost forgotten musical it was created for. "

    Hang on, I thought. Neil Brand didn't compose Feeling Good. Why, he'd
    have only been five or six years old at the time. Even if he had been
    a child prodigy, Anthony Newley was quite enough of an adult prodigy
    to write that one on his own. But thanks to a couple of errant commas
    I still felt I had to chase the song down, just to make sure.

    Nick
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  • From Chris J Dixon@chris@cdixon.me.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Mon Aug 31 09:15:43 2026
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    Nick Odell wrote:


    Slip-ups on the programme information pages seem to be becoming more
    common these days.

    One that infuriated me recently involved the addition of two commas
    which completely changed the meaning of the article.

    It was in the Soul Music series. Feeling Good was rebroadcast on Radio
    4 Extra a couple of weeks ago with this line which followed a
    description of the song...

    "The composer, Neil Brand, discusses why the song has gone on to
    transcend the almost forgotten musical it was created for. "

    Hang on, I thought. Neil Brand didn't compose Feeling Good. Why, he'd
    have only been five or six years old at the time. Even if he had been
    a child prodigy, Anthony Newley was quite enough of an adult prodigy
    to write that one on his own. But thanks to a couple of errant commas
    I still felt I had to chase the song down, just to make sure.

    I see what you are saying, but isn't it simply that the words
    between the commas qualify Neil Brand. However, he is _a_
    composer rather than _the_ composer.

    I am slightly reminded of the legal dislike for punctuation,
    which leaves documents looking ambiguous, to the uninitiated.

    Chris
    --
    Chris J Dixon Nottingham
    '48/33 M B+ G++ A L(-) I S-- CH0(--)(p) Ar- T+ H0 ?Q
    chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1
    Plant amazing Acers.
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  • From john ashby@johnashby20@yahoo.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Mon Aug 31 11:57:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 31/08/2026 09:15, Chris J Dixon wrote:
    Nick Odell wrote:


    Slip-ups on the programme information pages seem to be becoming more
    common these days.

    One that infuriated me recently involved the addition of two commas
    which completely changed the meaning of the article.

    It was in the Soul Music series. Feeling Good was rebroadcast on Radio
    4 Extra a couple of weeks ago with this line which followed a
    description of the song...

    "The composer, Neil Brand, discusses why the song has gone on to
    transcend the almost forgotten musical it was created for. "

    Hang on, I thought. Neil Brand didn't compose Feeling Good. Why, he'd
    have only been five or six years old at the time. Even if he had been
    a child prodigy, Anthony Newley was quite enough of an adult prodigy
    to write that one on his own. But thanks to a couple of errant commas
    I still felt I had to chase the song down, just to make sure.

    I see what you are saying, but isn't it simply that the words
    between the commas qualify Neil Brand. However, he is _a_
    composer rather than _the_ composer.


    No, that would be if it said "Neil Brand, the composer [rather than any
    other Neil Brand you might be tempted to think of], discusses...".
    However very few people these days seem to care about the order of
    qualifiers.

    I am slightly reminded of the legal dislike for punctuation,
    which leaves documents looking ambiguous, to the uninitiated.
    Ambiguity which some might think serves to increase the fees lawyers can charge.

    Cynical, moi?

    john
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.media.radio.archers on Mon Aug 31 13:49:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 09:15:43 +0100, Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk>
    wrote:

    Nick Odell wrote:


    Slip-ups on the programme information pages seem to be becoming more
    common these days.

    One that infuriated me recently involved the addition of two commas
    which completely changed the meaning of the article.

    It was in the Soul Music series. Feeling Good was rebroadcast on Radio
    4 Extra a couple of weeks ago with this line which followed a
    description of the song...

    "The composer, Neil Brand, discusses why the song has gone on to
    transcend the almost forgotten musical it was created for. "

    Hang on, I thought. Neil Brand didn't compose Feeling Good. Why, he'd
    have only been five or six years old at the time. Even if he had been
    a child prodigy, Anthony Newley was quite enough of an adult prodigy
    to write that one on his own. But thanks to a couple of errant commas
    I still felt I had to chase the song down, just to make sure.

    I see what you are saying, but isn't it simply that the words
    between the commas qualify Neil Brand. However, he is _a_
    composer rather than _the_ composer.

    I see what you are saying too.

    Each of the preceding three paragraphs was about somebody who was
    directly connected with the song. There's nothing to say "right, now
    we are going to change direction and hear from other people who have
    opinions" so with the commas as placed, I think it reads as if NB
    composed that song.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000ktx9 if you want to read it.


    I am slightly reminded of the legal dislike for punctuation,
    which leaves documents looking ambiguous, to the uninitiated.

    :-)

    Nick
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Mon Aug 31 18:12:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 2026/8/31 11:57:45, john ashby wrote:
    On 31/08/2026 09:15, Chris J Dixon wrote:
    Nick Odell wrote:
    []
    It was in the Soul Music series. Feeling Good was rebroadcast on Radio
    4 Extra a couple of weeks ago with this line which followed a
    description of the song...

    "The composer, Neil Brand, discusses why the song has gone on to
    transcend the almost forgotten musical it was created for. "

    Hang on, I thought. Neil Brand didn't compose Feeling Good. Why, he'd
    have only been five or six years old at the time. Even if he had been
    a child prodigy, Anthony Newley was quite enough of an adult prodigy
    to write that one on his own. But thanks to a couple of errant commas
    I still felt I had to chase the song down, just to make sure.

    I see what you are saying, but isn't it simply that the words
    between the commas qualify Neil Brand. However, he is _a_
    composer rather than _the_ composer.


    No, that would be if it said "Neil Brand, the composer [rather than any other Neil Brand you might be tempted to think of], discusses...".

    I too would have assumed it meant the composer of the song, whether the
    commas were present or not - especially if, as you say elsewhere, the
    previous three paragraphs had been about it.

    However very few people these days seem to care about the order of qualifiers.

    Similar: I recently saw a tweet from @BBCBreaking that said "Two die in
    house fire near Middlesbrough as police launch murder investigation". To
    me, that implies either simultaneity or causality: replace "as" with
    either "because" or "while", which are the commonest meanings for "as"
    when used in that manner. If they really had to use "as" (which they
    didn't), they should at least have reversed the order - "Police launch
    murder investigation as two die in house fire near Middlesbrough" - but
    that still has a whiff of simultaneity about it. But I've noticed
    @BBCBreaking using "as" in this sloppy manner quite a lot.


    I am slightly reminded of the legal dislike for punctuation,
    which leaves documents looking ambiguous, to the uninitiated.
    Ambiguity which some might think serves to increase the fees lawyers can charge.

    Cynical, moi?

    Well, YANA, and you beat me to it! I'm a great believer in punctuation
    to _remove_ ambiguity: Lynn Truss's example of "eats shoots and leaves"
    (from a book about pandas I think), or "have you eaten Grandma?".


    john
    John
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    There are things that we should be free by law to say but choose not
    to. A right to offend doesn't mean a duty to offend.
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  • From Jane Vernon@jane@clothandclay.co.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Tue Sep 1 09:08:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 31/08/2026 13:49, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 09:15:43 +0100, Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk>
    wrote:

    Nick Odell wrote:


    Slip-ups on the programme information pages seem to be becoming more
    common these days.

    One that infuriated me recently involved the addition of two commas
    which completely changed the meaning of the article.

    It was in the Soul Music series. Feeling Good was rebroadcast on Radio
    4 Extra a couple of weeks ago with this line which followed a
    description of the song...

    "The composer, Neil Brand, discusses why the song has gone on to
    transcend the almost forgotten musical it was created for. "

    Hang on, I thought. Neil Brand didn't compose Feeling Good. Why, he'd
    have only been five or six years old at the time. Even if he had been
    a child prodigy, Anthony Newley was quite enough of an adult prodigy
    to write that one on his own. But thanks to a couple of errant commas
    I still felt I had to chase the song down, just to make sure.

    I see what you are saying, but isn't it simply that the words
    between the commas qualify Neil Brand. However, he is _a_
    composer rather than _the_ composer.

    I see what you are saying too.

    Each of the preceding three paragraphs was about somebody who was
    directly connected with the song. There's nothing to say "right, now
    we are going to change direction and hear from other people who have opinions" so with the commas as placed, I think it reads as if NB
    composed that song.

    You are correct. It's not just your opinion! "The composer," means the composer we're already talking about, i.e. the composer of the song.
    "The composer Neil Brand" means that Neil Brand is a composer.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000ktx9 if you want to read it.


    I am slightly reminded of the legal dislike for punctuation,
    which leaves documents looking ambiguous, to the uninitiated.

    :-)

    Nick
    --
    Jane
    The Amethyst Artist
    BTME

    http://www.clothandclay.co.uk/umra/cookbook.htm - Umrats' recipes








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