• OT: Idiots 2

    From Joe Kerr@joe_kerr@cheerful.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Thu Aug 27 13:18:36 2026
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    You read about things like this on the internet. I can confirm that they
    are true.

    I own a rental property. I had an email from the letting agent yesterday morning to say that the bathroom light was not working and as it was
    some fancy LED contraption without a changeable bulb (it wasn't last
    time I saw it) she had contacted an electrician for a quote to replace it.

    I had an email yesterday afternoon with a mildly exorbitant, but
    plausible quote to supply and fix a new light fitting.

    Anybody ahead of me here? This morning I received an email saying that
    there had been a power cut yesterday and the light is now working!

    I am typing this whilst banging my head against the wall. At least this
    was discovered before the electrician turned up.
    --
    Ric

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  • From Kate B@elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Thu Aug 27 13:32:40 2026
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    On 27/08/2026 13:18, Joe Kerr wrote:
    You read about things like this on the internet. I can confirm that they
    are true.

    I own a rental property. I had an email from the letting agent yesterday morning to say that the bathroom light was not working and as it was
    some fancy LED contraption without a changeable bulb (it wasn't last
    time I saw it) she had contacted an electrician for a quote to replace it.

    I had an email yesterday afternoon with a mildly exorbitant, but
    plausible quote to supply and fix a new light fitting.

    Anybody ahead of me here? This morning I received an email saying that
    there had been a power cut yesterday and the light is now working!

    I am typing this whilst banging my head against the wall. At least this
    was discovered before the electrician turned up.


    Sack the lettings agency.
    --
    Kate B
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  • From Mike McMillan@toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Thu Aug 27 12:46:51 2026
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    Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote:
    You read about things like this on the internet. I can confirm that they
    are true.

    I own a rental property. I had an email from the letting agent yesterday morning to say that the bathroom light was not working and as it was
    some fancy LED contraption without a changeable bulb (it wasn't last
    time I saw it) she had contacted an electrician for a quote to replace it.

    I had an email yesterday afternoon with a mildly exorbitant, but
    plausible quote to supply and fix a new light fitting.

    Anybody ahead of me here? This morning I received an email saying that
    there had been a power cut yesterday and the light is now working!

    I am typing this whilst banging my head against the wall. At least this
    was discovered before the electrician turned up.


    At least you are only facing the one bill for the repairs to the plastered
    wall now.Efye
    --
    Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Thu Aug 27 20:36:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 2026/8/27 13:18:36, Joe Kerr wrote:
    You read about things like this on the internet. I can confirm that they
    are true.

    I own a rental property. I had an email from the letting agent yesterday morning to say that the bathroom light was not working and as it was
    some fancy LED contraption without a changeable bulb (it wasn't last
    time I saw it) she had contacted an electrician for a quote to replace it.

    I had an email yesterday afternoon with a mildly exorbitant, but
    plausible quote to supply and fix a new light fitting.

    Anybody ahead of me here? This morning I received an email saying that
    there had been a power cut yesterday and the light is now working!

    _Is_ the unit, or the switch or whatever controls it, _something_ other
    than a simple socket that takes a bulb (of some sort, including an LED
    "bulb")? If it's just a simple switch/bulb system, I can't see a power
    cut "rebooting" it.>
    I am typing this whilst banging my head against the wall. At least this
    was discovered before the electrician turned up.

    Good.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    The first objective of any tyrant in Whitehall would be to make
    Parliament utterly subservient to his will; and the next to overturn or diminish trial by jury ..."
    Lord Devlin (http://www.holbornchambers.co.uk)
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  • From Joe Kerr@joe_kerr@cheerful.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Aug 28 01:13:25 2026
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    On 27/08/2026 20:36, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/27 13:18:36, Joe Kerr wrote:
    You read about things like this on the internet. I can confirm that they
    are true.

    I own a rental property. I had an email from the letting agent yesterday
    morning to say that the bathroom light was not working and as it was
    some fancy LED contraption without a changeable bulb (it wasn't last
    time I saw it) she had contacted an electrician for a quote to replace it. >>
    I had an email yesterday afternoon with a mildly exorbitant, but
    plausible quote to supply and fix a new light fitting.

    Anybody ahead of me here? This morning I received an email saying that
    there had been a power cut yesterday and the light is now working!

    _Is_ the unit, or the switch or whatever controls it, _something_ other
    than a simple socket that takes a bulb (of some sort, including an LED "bulb")? If it's just a simple switch/bulb system, I can't see a power
    cut "rebooting" it.>

    Last time I saw it it was a conventional white goldfish bowl with a bulb
    in it. Whatever has replaced it is unlikely to be more sophisticated. I wouldn't have paid for anything "clever" and I doubt that a tenant would.

    My experience of simple electrical systems is that if you remove the
    power supply they stop working. If you reinstate the power supply they
    become capable of working.

    I am typing this whilst banging my head against the wall. At least this
    was discovered before the electrician turned up.

    Good.
    --
    Ric
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Aug 28 17:48:15 2026
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    On 2026/8/28 1:13:25, Joe Kerr wrote:
    On 27/08/2026 20:36, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/27 13:18:36, Joe Kerr wrote:
    You read about things like this on the internet. I can confirm that they >>> are true.

    I own a rental property. I had an email from the letting agent yesterday >>> morning to say that the bathroom light was not working and as it was
    some fancy LED contraption without a changeable bulb (it wasn't last
    time I saw it) she had contacted an electrician for a quote to replace it. []
    Anybody ahead of me here? This morning I received an email saying that
    there had been a power cut yesterday and the light is now working!

    _Is_ the unit, or the switch or whatever controls it, _something_ other
    than a simple socket that takes a bulb (of some sort, including an LED
    "bulb")? If it's just a simple switch/bulb system, I can't see a power
    cut "rebooting" it.>

    Last time I saw it it was a conventional white goldfish bowl with a bulb
    in it. Whatever has replaced it is unlikely to be more sophisticated. I

    Agreed. Just the report of it not working, followed by another one that
    it now _was_ working after a power cut, made me think it _was_ something
    fancy.

    wouldn't have paid for anything "clever" and I doubt that a tenant would.

    Does seem unlikely (see below).


    My experience of simple electrical systems is that if you remove the
    power supply they stop working. If you reinstate the power supply they become capable of working.

    All I can think of was that the tenant had maybe put one of those remote-control bulbs in (intending to take it with them, replacing it
    with the original, when they left). Seems an odd thing to do with a
    bathroom light, but whatever floats your boat; I would have _thought_
    the tenant would have tried replacing it him/herself.

    Unless the "not working" report was made _during_ a power cut :-)
    []
    Do you know the tenant at all?
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    "That was a great speech. Every thinking American will vote for you."
    "That's not enough. I need a majority." - Mo Udall
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  • From Joe Kerr@joe_kerr@cheerful.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Tue Sep 1 18:51:43 2026
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    On 28/08/2026 17:48, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/28 1:13:25, Joe Kerr wrote:
    On 27/08/2026 20:36, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/27 13:18:36, Joe Kerr wrote:
    You read about things like this on the internet. I can confirm that they >>>> are true.

    I own a rental property. I had an email from the letting agent yesterday >>>> morning to say that the bathroom light was not working and as it was
    some fancy LED contraption without a changeable bulb (it wasn't last
    time I saw it) she had contacted an electrician for a quote to replace it.
    []
    Anybody ahead of me here? This morning I received an email saying that >>>> there had been a power cut yesterday and the light is now working!

    _Is_ the unit, or the switch or whatever controls it, _something_ other
    than a simple socket that takes a bulb (of some sort, including an LED
    "bulb")? If it's just a simple switch/bulb system, I can't see a power
    cut "rebooting" it.>

    Last time I saw it it was a conventional white goldfish bowl with a bulb
    in it. Whatever has replaced it is unlikely to be more sophisticated. I

    Agreed. Just the report of it not working, followed by another one that
    it now _was_ working after a power cut, made me think it _was_ something fancy.

    wouldn't have paid for anything "clever" and I doubt that a tenant would.

    Does seem unlikely (see below).


    My experience of simple electrical systems is that if you remove the
    power supply they stop working. If you reinstate the power supply they
    become capable of working.

    All I can think of was that the tenant had maybe put one of those remote-control bulbs in (intending to take it with them, replacing it
    with the original, when they left). Seems an odd thing to do with a
    bathroom light, but whatever floats your boat; I would have _thought_
    the tenant would have tried replacing it him/herself.

    He did try to replace the bulb. That's how we know it is a fitting that
    has a panel of LEDs and doesn't take a regular bulb

    Unless the "not working" report was made _during_ a power cut :-)
    []
    Do you know the tenant at all?

    Never met them. I prefer to keep tenants at arms length so they can
    think of me as an evil (but fair) fire breathing monster rather than a
    giant teddy bear.
    --
    Ric
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Tue Sep 1 19:36:47 2026
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    On 2026/9/1 18:51:43, Joe Kerr wrote:
    []
    He did try to replace the bulb. That's how we know it is a fitting that
    has a panel of LEDs and doesn't take a regular bulb

    Ah. LEDs require (well, blue ones - which is what white ones are
    basically, with some phosphor that glows in the UV they also put out -
    rather like the old fluorescent tubes) about 4-5 volts DC, so there will
    be some electronics to convert ~240VAC to that. Sounds like it (the
    converter) had got into a sulk mode, which the power cut reset; you'd
    think turning it off at the light switch would have, but maybe the
    switch doesn't just cut the mains to it, only the low voltage. Anyway,
    all is well now! And if it happens again, you can tell them (if
    competent) or the letting agent (again, if competent) to turn off and on
    the relevant circuit at the consumer unit ("fuse box"). Might be an
    indication that it's on the way out, though; maybe have a look at next
    change of tenant.>
    Unless the "not working" report was made _during_ a power cut :-)
    []
    Do you know the tenant at all?

    Never met them. I prefer to keep tenants at arms length so they can
    think of me as an evil (but fair) fire breathing monster rather than a
    giant teddy bear.

    Sounds good :-)
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    It's quickly getting to a place where privacy will be cause for
    suspicion. - Mayayana in alt.windows7.general, 2018-11-6.
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