Earlier a young man by the name of Smith phoned me to tell me that he
had a wonderful life saving medical device which I could wear around my
neck or on my wrist.
I asked him for details of how it could save my life so he told me it
was a pendant I would wear.
I pointed out that wearing something around my neck or wrist could be >terribly encumbering and asked if he was aware of the difficulties that
Mrs Tregorran was encountering with a device of similar nature which >apparently might be lost in the kitchen (or perhaps hiding with the bats
in the loft.
For some reason rather then engage in further conversation he decided to
end the call. He did not admit to knowing or supply a device to Mrs >Tregorran.
Oh well it amused me for two minutes.
Earlier a young man by the name of Smith phoned me to tell me that he
had a wonderful life saving medical device which I could wear around my
neck or on my wrist.
I asked him for details of how it could save my life so he told me it
was a pendant I would wear.
I pointed out that wearing something around my neck or wrist could be terribly encumbering and asked if he was aware of the difficulties that
Mrs Tregorran was encountering with a device of similar nature which apparently might be lost in the kitchen (or perhaps hiding with the bats
in the loft.
For some reason rather then engage in further conversation he decided to
end the call.-a He did not admit to knowing or supply a device to Mrs Tregorran.
Oh well it amused me for two minutes.
On Tue, 26 May 2026 11:32:26 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
Earlier a young man by the name of Smith phoned me to tell me that he
had a wonderful life saving medical device which I could wear around my
neck or on my wrist.
I asked him for details of how it could save my life so he told me it
was a pendant I would wear.
I pointed out that wearing something around my neck or wrist could be
terribly encumbering and asked if he was aware of the difficulties that
Mrs Tregorran was encountering with a device of similar nature which
apparently might be lost in the kitchen (or perhaps hiding with the bats
in the loft.
For some reason rather then engage in further conversation he decided to
end the call. He did not admit to knowing or supply a device to Mrs
Tregorran.
Oh well it amused me for two minutes.
I presume Mr Smith will be coming round to fit grab rails throughout
your house any day now...
the divine Keira Nightly
On 26/05/2026 11:32, Kosmo wrote:
Earlier a young man by the name of Smith phoned me to tell me that heAs no-longer-an-Archers-listener but someone who has very recently
had a wonderful life saving medical device which I could wear around
my neck or on my wrist.
I asked him for details of how it could save my life so he told me it
was a pendant I would wear.
I pointed out that wearing something around my neck or wrist could be
terribly encumbering and asked if he was aware of the difficulties
that Mrs Tregorran was encountering with a device of similar nature
which apparently might be lost in the kitchen (or perhaps hiding with
the bats in the loft.
For some reason rather then engage in further conversation he decided
to end the call.-a He did not admit to knowing or supply a device to
Mrs Tregorran.
Oh well it amused me for two minutes.
acquired such a device (wrist-band, not pendant - and did Mr Smith
mention a key safe?) - not from Mr Smith or his ilk but through the
local Council, I'd be interested to know what problems Mrs Tregorran is having.
On 26.5.26 12:30, Jenny M Benson wrote:
On 26/05/2026 11:32, Kosmo wrote:
Earlier a young man by the name of Smith phoned me to tell me that heAs no-longer-an-Archers-listener but someone who has very recently
had a wonderful life saving medical device which I could wear around
my neck or on my wrist.
I asked him for details of how it could save my life so he told me it
was a pendant I would wear.
I pointed out that wearing something around my neck or wrist could be
terribly encumbering and asked if he was aware of the difficulties
that Mrs Tregorran was encountering with a device of similar nature
which apparently might be lost in the kitchen (or perhaps hiding with
the bats in the loft.
For some reason rather then engage in further conversation he decided
to end the call.-a He did not admit to knowing or supply a device to
Mrs Tregorran.
Oh well it amused me for two minutes.
acquired such a device (wrist-band, not pendant - and did Mr Smith
mention a key safe?) - not from Mr Smith or his ilk but through the
local Council, I'd be interested to know what problems Mrs Tregorran
is having.
Talking of key safes (see what I did there) I want to put one on our house.-a We were away last week (hence the wireless silence) in that
there far flung Cornwall (awful weather thanks for asking) and one of
the grandsons messaged to ask if he could stay over even though we were away.-a We said yes as we gave him a front door key when he lived here
and so we knew he could get in and out.
Of course the feather brain left home without his front door key so we
have no idea what he did for the weekend!
My view is that we should probably have a key safe somewhere outside to cater for feather brained grandsons and any Brian style dementia as we
are all a bit older than we used to be.-a I would probably put it out of external sight behind the back gate or similar.-a However for unexplained reasons the good lady wife is entirely against such an installation.
now I know it is about 40 years since I locked myself out of anywhere
and got such a telling off for it that I have no wish to repeat it - but
I still think it is a good idea.
What is the preponderance of keysafes amongst the umra congregation?
On 26/05/2026 14:24, Kosmo wrote:
On 26.5.26 12:30, Jenny M Benson wrote:
On 26/05/2026 11:32, Kosmo wrote:
Earlier a young man by the name of Smith phoned me to tell me thatAs no-longer-an-Archers-listener but someone who has very recently
he had a wonderful life saving medical device which I could wear
around my neck or on my wrist.
I asked him for details of how it could save my life so he told me
it was a pendant I would wear.
I pointed out that wearing something around my neck or wrist could
be terribly encumbering and asked if he was aware of the
difficulties that Mrs Tregorran was encountering with a device of
similar nature which apparently might be lost in the kitchen (or
perhaps hiding with the bats in the loft.
For some reason rather then engage in further conversation he
decided to end the call.-a He did not admit to knowing or supply a
device to Mrs Tregorran.
Oh well it amused me for two minutes.
acquired such a device (wrist-band, not pendant - and did Mr Smith
mention a key safe?) - not from Mr Smith or his ilk but through the
local Council, I'd be interested to know what problems Mrs Tregorran
is having.
Talking of key safes (see what I did there) I want to put one on our
house.-a We were away last week (hence the wireless silence) in that
there far flung Cornwall (awful weather thanks for asking) and one of
the grandsons messaged to ask if he could stay over even though we
were away.-a We said yes as we gave him a front door key when he lived
here and so we knew he could get in and out.
Of course the feather brain left home without his front door key so we
have no idea what he did for the weekend!
My view is that we should probably have a key safe somewhere outside
to cater for feather brained grandsons and any Brian style dementia as
we are all a bit older than we used to be.-a I would probably put it
out of external sight behind the back gate or similar.-a However for
unexplained reasons the good lady wife is entirely against such an
installation.
now I know it is about 40 years since I locked myself out of anywhere
and got such a telling off for it that I have no wish to repeat it -
but I still think it is a good idea.
What is the preponderance of keysafes amongst the umra congregation?
We have one, it was here when we moved in.-a We don't use it ourselves,
but it's handy if you have builders or decorators in. I wouldn't want to leave a key in it permanently.
Bloody awful design though.
On 26.5.26 14:12, BrritSki wrote:
the divine Keira Nightly
Other opinions are available.
On 26.5.26 12:30, Jenny M Benson wrote:
On 26/05/2026 11:32, Kosmo wrote:
Earlier a young man by the name of Smith phoned me to tell me that heAs no-longer-an-Archers-listener but someone who has very recently
had a wonderful life saving medical device which I could wear around
my neck or on my wrist.
I asked him for details of how it could save my life so he told me it
was a pendant I would wear.
I pointed out that wearing something around my neck or wrist could be
terribly encumbering and asked if he was aware of the difficulties
that Mrs Tregorran was encountering with a device of similar nature
which apparently might be lost in the kitchen (or perhaps hiding with
the bats in the loft.
For some reason rather then engage in further conversation he decided
to end the call.a He did not admit to knowing or supply a device to
Mrs Tregorran.
Oh well it amused me for two minutes.
acquired such a device (wrist-band, not pendant - and did Mr Smith
mention a key safe?) - not from Mr Smith or his ilk but through the
local Council, I'd be interested to know what problems Mrs Tregorran is
having.
Talking of key safes (see what I did there) I want to put one on our
house. We were away last week (hence the wireless silence) in that
there far flung Cornwall (awful weather thanks for asking) and one of
the grandsons messaged to ask if he could stay over even though we were >away. We said yes as we gave him a front door key when he lived here
and so we knew he could get in and out.
Of course the feather brain left home without his front door key so we
have no idea what he did for the weekend!
My view is that we should probably have a key safe somewhere outside to >cater for feather brained grandsons and any Brian style dementia as we
are all a bit older than we used to be. I would probably put it out of >external sight behind the back gate or similar. However for unexplained >reasons the good lady wife is entirely against such an installation.
now I know it is about 40 years since I locked myself out of anywhere
and got such a telling off for it that I have no wish to repeat it - but
I still think it is a good idea.
What is the preponderance of keysafes amongst the umra congregation?
Talking of key safes (see what I did there) I want to put one on our house.-a We were away last week (hence the wireless silence) in that
there far flung Cornwall (awful weather thanks for asking) and one of
the grandsons messaged to ask if he could stay over even though we were away.-a We said yes as we gave him a front door key when he lived here
and so we knew he could get in and out.
Of course the feather brain left home without his front door key so we
have no idea what he did for the weekend!
My view is that we should probably have a key safe somewhere outside to cater for feather brained grandsons and any Brian style dementia as we
are all a bit older than we used to be.-a I would probably put it out of external sight behind the back gate or similar.-a However for unexplained reasons the good lady wife is entirely against such an installation.
now I know it is about 40 years since I locked myself out of anywhere
and got such a telling off for it that I have no wish to repeat it - but
I still think it is a good idea.
What is the preponderance of keysafes amongst the umra congregation?
On Tue, 26 May 2026 14:24:42 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
On 26.5.26 12:30, Jenny M Benson wrote:
On 26/05/2026 11:32, Kosmo wrote:
Talking of key safes (see what I did there) I want to put one on our
house. We were away last week (hence the wireless silence) in that
there far flung Cornwall (awful weather thanks for asking) and one of
the grandsons messaged to ask if he could stay over even though we were
away. We said yes as we gave him a front door key when he lived here
and so we knew he could get in and out.
Of course the feather brain left home without his front door key so we
have no idea what he did for the weekend!
My view is that we should probably have a key safe somewhere outside to
cater for feather brained grandsons and any Brian style dementia as we
are all a bit older than we used to be. I would probably put it out of
external sight behind the back gate or similar. However for unexplained
reasons the good lady wife is entirely against such an installation.
now I know it is about 40 years since I locked myself out of anywhere
and got such a telling off for it that I have no wish to repeat it - but
I still think it is a good idea.
What is the preponderance of keysafes amongst the umra congregation?
No keysafe here. This video shows how to break into a keysafe box with
no difficulty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yw5ULOm9k8
It also demonstrates how hard it is supposed to be to break into the advertiser's preferred choice of key safe but in my opinion a claw
hammer claw would have it off the wall in no time.
In the flowerbed, in my back garden, I've buried a front door key in a capsule underneath a small stone. I know which stone. Not much help
much if you wanted to allow a visitor to come in while you were away
but, very handy if one were to step outside ones house for a moment
and the front door were to catch in the breeze and slam shut.
I can't think for the life of me what prompted me to do that.--
Nick
[1] featuring the divine Keira Nightly
On Tue, 26 May 2026 14:24:42 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:[]
[]reasons the good lady wife is entirely against such an installation.
No keysafe here. This video shows how to break into a keysafe box with[]
no difficulty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yw5ULOm9k8
On 26/05/2026 14:24, Kosmo wrote:
On 26.5.26 12:30, Jenny M Benson wrote:
On 26/05/2026 11:32, Kosmo wrote:
Earlier a young man by the name of Smith phoned me to tell me that he >>>> had a wonderful life saving medical device which I could wear aroundAs no-longer-an-Archers-listener but someone who has very recently
my neck or on my wrist.
I asked him for details of how it could save my life so he told me it >>>> was a pendant I would wear.
I pointed out that wearing something around my neck or wrist could be >>>> terribly encumbering and asked if he was aware of the difficulties
that Mrs Tregorran was encountering with a device of similar nature
which apparently might be lost in the kitchen (or perhaps hiding with >>>> the bats in the loft.
For some reason rather then engage in further conversation he decided >>>> to end the call.-a He did not admit to knowing or supply a device to
Mrs Tregorran.
Oh well it amused me for two minutes.
acquired such a device (wrist-band, not pendant - and did Mr Smith
mention a key safe?) - not from Mr Smith or his ilk but through the
local Council, I'd be interested to know what problems Mrs Tregorran
is having.
Talking of key safes (see what I did there) I want to put one on our
house.-a We were away last week (hence the wireless silence) in that
there far flung Cornwall (awful weather thanks for asking) and one of
the grandsons messaged to ask if he could stay over even though we were
away.-a We said yes as we gave him a front door key when he lived here
and so we knew he could get in and out.
Of course the feather brain left home without his front door key so we
have no idea what he did for the weekend!
My view is that we should probably have a key safe somewhere outside to
cater for feather brained grandsons and any Brian style dementia as we
are all a bit older than we used to be.-a I would probably put it out of
external sight behind the back gate or similar.-a However for unexplained >> reasons the good lady wife is entirely against such an installation.
now I know it is about 40 years since I locked myself out of anywhere
and got such a telling off for it that I have no wish to repeat it - but
I still think it is a good idea.
What is the preponderance of keysafes amongst the umra congregation?
We have one, it was here when we moved in. We don't use it ourselves,
but it's handy if you have builders or decorators in. I wouldn't want to leave a key in it permanently.
Bloody awful design though.
On Tue, 26 May 2026 11:32:26 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
Earlier a young man by the name of Smith phoned me to tell me that he
had a wonderful life saving medical device which I could wear around my
neck or on my wrist.
I asked him for details of how it could save my life so he told me it
was a pendant I would wear.
I pointed out that wearing something around my neck or wrist could be
terribly encumbering and asked if he was aware of the difficulties that
Mrs Tregorran was encountering with a device of similar nature which
apparently might be lost in the kitchen (or perhaps hiding with the bats
in the loft.
For some reason rather then engage in further conversation he decided to
end the call. He did not admit to knowing or supply a device to Mrs
Tregorran.
Oh well it amused me for two minutes.
I presume Mr Smith will be coming round to fit grab rails throughout
your house any day now...
On 26/05/2026 14:24, Kosmo wrote:
I have one. I had it fitted so my Mother's carers could get in without disturbing/waking her. It is discretely located on the front of the
Talking of key safes (see what I did there) I want to put one on our
house.-a We were away last week (hence the wireless silence) in that
there far flung Cornwall (awful weather thanks for asking) and one of
the grandsons messaged to ask if he could stay over even though we
were away.-a We said yes as we gave him a front door key when he lived
here and so we knew he could get in and out.
Of course the feather brain left home without his front door key so we
have no idea what he did for the weekend!
My view is that we should probably have a key safe somewhere outside
to cater for feather brained grandsons and any Brian style dementia as
we are all a bit older than we used to be.-a I would probably put it
out of external sight behind the back gate or similar.-a However for
unexplained reasons the good lady wife is entirely against such an
installation.
now I know it is about 40 years since I locked myself out of anywhere
and got such a telling off for it that I have no wish to repeat it -
but I still think it is a good idea.
What is the preponderance of keysafes amongst the umra congregation?
garage about as far from the front door as you can get. It was also
useful for the paramedics to get in without me having to stop CPR on one occasion. I should probably put the code in my will or something for the benefit of future residents. I went with the rather expensive one that
was recommended by assorted charities (and came with a handy weather shield). I can look up the details if you would like.
Neighbours have a set of keys but a keysafe could also come in handy if
I lock myself out while they are away or need paramedics myself when
unable to let them in (again).
My aunt also had the same keysafe (I think) for similar reasons that was fixed near her back gate down the side of the house.
On 26/05/2026 16:11, Joe Kerr wrote:
On 26/05/2026 14:24, Kosmo wrote:
I have one. I had it fitted so my Mother's carers could get in without
Talking of key safes (see what I did there) I want to put one on our
house.-a We were away last week (hence the wireless silence) in that
there far flung Cornwall (awful weather thanks for asking) and one of
the grandsons messaged to ask if he could stay over even though we
were away.-a We said yes as we gave him a front door key when he lived
here and so we knew he could get in and out.
Of course the feather brain left home without his front door key so
we have no idea what he did for the weekend!
My view is that we should probably have a key safe somewhere outside
to cater for feather brained grandsons and any Brian style dementia
as we are all a bit older than we used to be.-a I would probably put
it out of external sight behind the back gate or similar.-a However
for unexplained reasons the good lady wife is entirely against such
an installation.
now I know it is about 40 years since I locked myself out of anywhere
and got such a telling off for it that I have no wish to repeat it -
but I still think it is a good idea.
What is the preponderance of keysafes amongst the umra congregation?
disturbing/waking her. It is discretely located on the front of the
garage about as far from the front door as you can get. It was also
useful for the paramedics to get in without me having to stop CPR on
one occasion. I should probably put the code in my will or something
for the benefit of future residents. I went with the rather expensive
one that was recommended by assorted charities (and came with a handy
weather shield). I can look up the details if you would like.
AIUI, the usual recommendation from care agencies and the Police is the Supra C500 Pro.
There is also a P500 version which is said to be more secure (dunno the details).
The C500 is around -u67 and the P500 is maybe -u25 more.
Neighbours have a set of keys but a keysafe could also come in handy
if I lock myself out while they are away or need paramedics myself
when unable to let them in (again).
My aunt also had the same keysafe (I think) for similar reasons that
was fixed near her back gate down the side of the house.
Clive Arthur <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote:
On 26/05/2026 14:24, Kosmo wrote:
On 26.5.26 12:30, Jenny M Benson wrote:
On 26/05/2026 11:32, Kosmo wrote:
Earlier a young man by the name of Smith phoned me to tell me that he >>>>> had a wonderful life saving medical device which I could wear around >>>>> my neck or on my wrist.As no-longer-an-Archers-listener but someone who has very recently
I asked him for details of how it could save my life so he told me it >>>>> was a pendant I would wear.
I pointed out that wearing something around my neck or wrist could be >>>>> terribly encumbering and asked if he was aware of the difficulties
that Mrs Tregorran was encountering with a device of similar nature
which apparently might be lost in the kitchen (or perhaps hiding with >>>>> the bats in the loft.
For some reason rather then engage in further conversation he decided >>>>> to end the call.-a He did not admit to knowing or supply a device to >>>>> Mrs Tregorran.
Oh well it amused me for two minutes.
acquired such a device (wrist-band, not pendant - and did Mr Smith
mention a key safe?) - not from Mr Smith or his ilk but through the
local Council, I'd be interested to know what problems Mrs Tregorran
is having.
Talking of key safes (see what I did there) I want to put one on our
house.-a We were away last week (hence the wireless silence) in that
there far flung Cornwall (awful weather thanks for asking) and one of
the grandsons messaged to ask if he could stay over even though we were
away.-a We said yes as we gave him a front door key when he lived here
and so we knew he could get in and out.
Of course the feather brain left home without his front door key so we
have no idea what he did for the weekend!
My view is that we should probably have a key safe somewhere outside to
cater for feather brained grandsons and any Brian style dementia as we
are all a bit older than we used to be.-a I would probably put it out of >>> external sight behind the back gate or similar.-a However for unexplained >>> reasons the good lady wife is entirely against such an installation.
now I know it is about 40 years since I locked myself out of anywhere
and got such a telling off for it that I have no wish to repeat it - but >>> I still think it is a good idea.
What is the preponderance of keysafes amongst the umra congregation?
We have one, it was here when we moved in. We don't use it ourselves,
but it's handy if you have builders or decorators in. I wouldn't want to
leave a key in it permanently.
Bloody awful design though.
Did the designer go to Yale?
On 26/05/2026 22:00, Sam Plusnet wrote:
AIUI, the usual recommendation from care agencies and the Police isLooks like I have a P500. (So much easier to do an archive email search
the Supra C500 Pro.
There is also a P500 version which is said to be more secure (dunno
the details).
The C500 is around -u67 and the P500 is maybe -u25 more.
than go upstairs and start thumbing through files.)
On 26.5.26 12:30, Jenny M Benson wrote:
On 26/05/2026 11:32, Kosmo wrote:
Earlier a young man by the name of Smith phoned me to tell me that heAs no-longer-an-Archers-listener but someone who has very recently
had a wonderful life saving medical device which I could wear around
my neck or on my wrist.
I asked him for details of how it could save my life so he told me it
was a pendant I would wear.
I pointed out that wearing something around my neck or wrist could be
terribly encumbering and asked if he was aware of the difficulties
that Mrs Tregorran was encountering with a device of similar nature
which apparently might be lost in the kitchen (or perhaps hiding with
the bats in the loft.
For some reason rather then engage in further conversation he decided
to end the call.-a He did not admit to knowing or supply a device to
Mrs Tregorran.
Oh well it amused me for two minutes.
acquired such a device (wrist-band, not pendant - and did Mr Smith
mention a key safe?) - not from Mr Smith or his ilk but through the
local Council, I'd be interested to know what problems Mrs Tregorran
is having.
Talking of key safes (see what I did there) I want to put one on our house.-a We were away last week (hence the wireless silence) in that
there far flung Cornwall (awful weather thanks for asking) and one of
the grandsons messaged to ask if he could stay over even though we were away.-a We said yes as we gave him a front door key when he lived here
and so we knew he could get in and out.
Of course the feather brain left home without his front door key so we
have no idea what he did for the weekend!
My view is that we should probably have a key safe somewhere outside to cater for feather brained grandsons and any Brian style dementia as we
are all a bit older than we used to be.-a I would probably put it out of external sight behind the back gate or similar.-a However for unexplained reasons the good lady wife is entirely against such an installation.
now I know it is about 40 years since I locked myself out of anywhere
and got such a telling off for it that I have no wish to repeat it - but
I still think it is a good idea.
What is the preponderance of keysafes amongst the umra congregation?
On 26/05/2026 15:14, Nick Odell wrote:that you have the key to opposite while your key is 3 doors down and
On Tue, 26 May 2026 14:24:42 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
On 26.5.26 12:30, Jenny M Benson wrote:
On 26/05/2026 11:32, Kosmo wrote:
Talking of key safes (see what I did there) I want to put one on our
house.-a We were away last week (hence the wireless silence) in that
there far flung Cornwall (awful weather thanks for asking) and one of
the grandsons messaged to ask if he could stay over even though we were
away.-a We said yes as we gave him a front door key when he lived here
and so we knew he could get in and out.
Of course the feather brain left home without his front door key so we
have no idea what he did for the weekend!
My view is that we should probably have a key safe somewhere outside to
cater for feather brained grandsons and any Brian style dementia as we
are all a bit older than we used to be.-a I would probably put it out of >>> external sight behind the back gate or similar.-a However for unexplained >>> reasons the good lady wife is entirely against such an installation.
now I know it is about 40 years since I locked myself out of anywhere
and got such a telling off for it that I have no wish to repeat it - but >>> I still think it is a good idea.
What is the preponderance of keysafes amongst the umra congregation?
No keysafe here. This video shows how to break into a keysafe box with
no difficulty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yw5ULOm9k8
That's why it pays to have a quality one.
Getting it off the wall just means you will have a bit of brickwork to repair. And possibly no key available for anyone who needs it. The key
It also demonstrates how hard it is supposed to be to break into the
advertiser's preferred choice of key safe-a but in my opinion a claw
hammer claw would have it off the wall in no time.
will still be locked in the safe.
p.s. If security is a concern you could team up with your neighbours so
On 26/05/2026 16:22, Joe Kerr wrote:
On 26/05/2026 15:14, Nick Odell wrote:that you have the key to opposite while your key is 3 doors down and
On Tue, 26 May 2026 14:24:42 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
On 26.5.26 12:30, Jenny M Benson wrote:
On 26/05/2026 11:32, Kosmo wrote:
Talking of key safes (see what I did there) I want to put one on our
house.-a We were away last week (hence the wireless silence) in that
there far flung Cornwall (awful weather thanks for asking) and one of
the grandsons messaged to ask if he could stay over even though we were >>>> away.-a We said yes as we gave him a front door key when he lived here >>>> and so we knew he could get in and out.
Of course the feather brain left home without his front door key so we >>>> have no idea what he did for the weekend!
My view is that we should probably have a key safe somewhere outside to >>>> cater for feather brained grandsons and any Brian style dementia as we >>>> are all a bit older than we used to be.-a I would probably put it out of >>>> external sight behind the back gate or similar.-a However for
unexplained
reasons the good lady wife is entirely against such an installation.
now I know it is about 40 years since I locked myself out of anywhere
and got such a telling off for it that I have no wish to repeat it -
but
I still think it is a good idea.
What is the preponderance of keysafes amongst the umra congregation?
No keysafe here. This video shows how to break into a keysafe box with
no difficulty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yw5ULOm9k8
That's why it pays to have a quality one.
Getting it off the wall just means you will have a bit of brickwork to
It also demonstrates how hard it is supposed to be to break into the
advertiser's preferred choice of key safe-a but in my opinion a claw
hammer claw would have it off the wall in no time.
repair. And possibly no key available for anyone who needs it. The key
will still be locked in the safe.
p.s. If security is a concern you could team up with your neighbours so
their key is ...
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