• Adam.

    From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.media.radio.archers on Mon May 11 21:24:08 2026
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    What's wrong with the portrayal of Adam, I keep asking myself? And
    tonight I think I came close to the answer. These days he sounds like
    the radio comedy parody of a nineteenth century landowner - think
    Bleak Expectations or 1834 (other comedies set in the nineteenth
    century are available). For me, he just doesn't sound grounded in the twenty-first century. Or a meringue? Or is it just me?

    Nick
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Mon May 11 22:08:09 2026
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    On 2026/5/11 21:24:8, Nick Odell wrote:
    What's wrong with the portrayal of Adam, I keep asking myself? And
    tonight I think I came close to the answer. These days he sounds like
    the radio comedy parody of a nineteenth century landowner - think
    Bleak Expectations or 1834 (other comedies set in the nineteenth
    century are available). For me, he just doesn't sound grounded in the twenty-first century. Or a meringue? Or is it just me?

    Nick

    A sister volume to Great House, perhaps?

    I know what you mean about Adam.
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    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    At my funeral take the bouquet off my casket and throw it in the crowd
    to see who's next
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  • From Kosmo@krw@whitnet.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Mon May 11 22:24:11 2026
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    On 11.5.26 21:24, Nick Odell wrote:
    What's wrong with the portrayal of Adam, I keep asking myself? And
    tonight I think I came close to the answer. These days he sounds like
    the radio comedy parody of a nineteenth century landowner - think
    Bleak Expectations or 1834 (other comedies set in the nineteenth
    century are available). For me, he just doesn't sound grounded in the twenty-first century. Or a meringue? Or is it just me?

    Nick

    I think part of the problem is long standing. When he returned from
    Africa it was about the same time that Kenton rematerialised in the
    village and there were significant concerns expressed by various parties
    that they were indistinguishable. The then editor took it on board and
    Adam's voice therefore changed. However it takes it further from the
    actor's normal intonation and I suspect he has less control of the output.

    A second aspect to my mind is that the character has had to be something different each time a writer writes. Sometimes he was a competent farm manager with some decent ideas, at others he was a simple labourer on a neighbouring farm enjoying laughs and jokes with Mrs Carter for which he somehow sounded different and then has to turn into a sulky child when
    Brian inevitably changes his mind again, not having worked out how to
    manage (and it does not include ludicrous half formed ideas being
    floated every two minutes).

    So you have an actor who is no doubt perfectly capable having his role changing every couple of weeks to suit the writing whims without a
    consistent inner person to deliver as driven by TPTB.

    I may have it wrong but that is how I see it.
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    Kosmo Richard W
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  • From vicky.ayech@vicky.ayech@gmail.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Tue May 12 11:43:55 2026
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    On Mon, 11 May 2026 22:24:11 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

    On 11.5.26 21:24, Nick Odell wrote:
    What's wrong with the portrayal of Adam, I keep asking myself? And
    tonight I think I came close to the answer. These days he sounds like
    the radio comedy parody of a nineteenth century landowner - think
    Bleak Expectations or 1834 (other comedies set in the nineteenth
    century are available). For me, he just doesn't sound grounded in the
    twenty-first century. Or a meringue? Or is it just me?

    Nick

    I think part of the problem is long standing. When he returned from
    Africa it was about the same time that Kenton rematerialised in the
    village and there were significant concerns expressed by various parties >that they were indistinguishable. The then editor took it on board and >Adam's voice therefore changed. However it takes it further from the >actor's normal intonation and I suspect he has less control of the output.

    A second aspect to my mind is that the character has had to be something >different each time a writer writes. Sometimes he was a competent farm >manager with some decent ideas, at others he was a simple labourer on a >neighbouring farm enjoying laughs and jokes with Mrs Carter for which he >somehow sounded different and then has to turn into a sulky child when
    Brian inevitably changes his mind again, not having worked out how to
    manage (and it does not include ludicrous half formed ideas being
    floated every two minutes).

    So you have an actor who is no doubt perfectly capable having his role >changing every couple of weeks to suit the writing whims without a >consistent inner person to deliver as driven by TPTB.

    I may have it wrong but that is how I see it.

    Yes.
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  • From Chris@chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri May 15 15:31:16 2026
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    Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
    On 11.5.26 21:24, Nick Odell wrote:
    What's wrong with the portrayal of Adam, I keep asking myself? And
    tonight I think I came close to the answer. These days he sounds like
    the radio comedy parody of a nineteenth century landowner - think
    Bleak Expectations or 1834 (other comedies set in the nineteenth
    century are available). For me, he just doesn't sound grounded in the
    twenty-first century. Or a meringue? Or is it just me?

    Nick

    I think part of the problem is long standing. When he returned from
    Africa it was about the same time that Kenton rematerialised in the
    village and there were significant concerns expressed by various parties that they were indistinguishable. The then editor took it on board and Adam's voice therefore changed. However it takes it further from the actor's normal intonation and I suspect he has less control of the output.

    A second aspect to my mind is that the character has had to be something different each time a writer writes. Sometimes he was a competent farm manager with some decent ideas, at others he was a simple labourer on a neighbouring farm enjoying laughs and jokes with Mrs Carter for which he somehow sounded different and then has to turn into a sulky child when
    Brian inevitably changes his mind again, not having worked out how to
    manage (and it does not include ludicrous half formed ideas being
    floated every two minutes).

    So you have an actor who is no doubt perfectly capable having his role changing every couple of weeks to suit the writing whims without a consistent inner person to deliver as driven by TPTB.

    I may have it wrong but that is how I see it.


    Brian has never really liked Adam's farming methods is the bottom of it.
    Then when proved right, Brian sulks. Brian has *always* favoured Dobbie
    over Adam but then Adam isn't his son. The bottom line is he feels guilty about Ruari because Shovehorn died rather than supporting Adam who knows
    his stuff. Of course, he still doesn't like Adam's choice of partner
    either.

    Mrs McT

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri May 15 18:05:57 2026
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    On 2026/5/15 16:31:16, Chris wrote:
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    Brian has never really liked Adam's farming methods is the bottom of it.

    Agreed.

    Then when proved right, Brian sulks. Brian has *always* favoured Dobbie

    :-)

    over Adam but then Adam isn't his son. The bottom line is he feels guilty about Ruari because Shovehorn died rather than supporting Adam who knows
    his stuff. Of course, he still doesn't like Adam's choice of partner
    either.

    The gender, yes. I don't think Brian dislikes Ian as a person.

    Mrs McT

    J
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    "When was tomorrow yesterday, Mr. Marlowe?" (The Trouble with Harry)
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