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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ck4gjr5vly99o

It seems a truly magnificent FUBAR from the VAR team allowed a clearly
offside goal to not only count, but win the match 1-0 (United lost).

Obviously these days no one is to blame for anything, and it's a bit
tasteless to talk of recompense or restitution.

However, if United were to feel - obviously unreasonably - that the
situation was not to their liking, then what options would they have ?

We know that English courts don't recognise consequential losses. so is
there any insurance that can be taken out for such instances where
someone fucks up so badly you can't put it right ?


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On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 17:35:51 -0000 (UTC)
Jethro <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ck4gjr5vly99o

It seems a truly magnificent FUBAR from the VAR team allowed a
clearly offside goal to not only count, but win the match 1-0 (United
lost).

Obviously these days no one is to blame for anything, and it's a bit tasteless to talk of recompense or restitution.

However, if United were to feel - obviously unreasonably - that the situation was not to their liking, then what options would they have ?

We know that English courts don't recognise consequential losses. so
is there any insurance that can be taken out for such instances where someone fucks up so badly you can't put it right ?

I am minded to mention Formula 1, where they seem to have no problem
after the end of the race in changing the results and taking a podium
place away from somebody they deem to have erred or cheated.
--
Davey.


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"Jethro" <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote in message news:118ek1n$3jgl6$1@dont-email.me...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ck4gjr5vly99o

However, if United were to feel - obviously unreasonably - that the
situation was not to their liking, then what options would they have ?

What goes around comes around

" Maresca says Manchester City still waiting for apology after disputed
2023 derby goal "

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/sep/16/enzo-maresca-manchester-city-apology-2023-derby-goal


In football, Law 5 states that

" *The decisions of the referee* regarding facts connected with play,
including whether or not a goal is scored and the result of the match,
*are final*."

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-5---the-referee

That means that it's immaterial whether they are right or wrong in any particular instance

And all teams who take part in the game, accept that condition.



bb






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On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 22:21:23 +0100, "billy bookcase" <billy@anon.com>
wrote:

"Jethro" <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote in message >news:118ek1n$3jgl6$1@dont-email.me...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ck4gjr5vly99o

However, if United were to feel - obviously unreasonably - that the
situation was not to their liking, then what options would they have ?

What goes around comes around

" Maresca says Manchester City still waiting for apology after disputed
2023 derby goal "

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/sep/16/enzo-maresca-manchester-city-apology-2023-derby-goal

In football, Law 5 states that

" *The decisions of the referee* regarding facts connected with play, >including whether or not a goal is scored and the result of the match,
*are final*."

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-5---the-referee

That means that it's immaterial whether they are right or wrong in any >particular instance

And all teams who take part in the game, accept that condition.

I thought that, since this summer, there's been a new rule which
states that if you live at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and have orange
skin, you can change any football result that you don't like?

Nick

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On 16/09/2026 22:21, billy bookcase wrote:

"Jethro" <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote in message news:118ek1n$3jgl6$1@dont-email.me...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ck4gjr5vly99o

However, if United were to feel - obviously unreasonably - that the
situation was not to their liking, then what options would they have ?

What goes around comes around

" Maresca says Manchester City still waiting for apology after disputed
2023 derby goal "

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/sep/16/enzo-maresca-manchester-city-apology-2023-derby-goal

In football, Law 5 states that

" *The decisions of the referee* regarding facts connected with play, including whether or not a goal is scored and the result of the match,
*are final*."

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-5---the-referee

That means that it's immaterial whether they are right or wrong in any particular instance

And all teams who take part in the game, accept that condition.

Could a team can hold a referee culpable?

If so couldn't there could be a personal case against a referee for negligence?


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"Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote in message news:118jod6$1esp0$1@dont-email.me...

On 16/09/2026 22:21, billy bookcase wrote:

"Jethro" <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote in message
news:118ek1n$3jgl6$1@dont-email.me...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ck4gjr5vly99o

However, if United were to feel - obviously unreasonably - that the
situation was not to their liking, then what options would they have ?

What goes around comes around

" Maresca says Manchester City still waiting for apology after disputed
2023 derby goal "

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/sep/16/enzo-maresca-manchester-city-apology-2023-derby-goal


In football, Law 5 states that

" *The decisions of the referee* regarding facts connected with play,
including whether or not a goal is scored and the result of the match,
*are final*."

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-5---the-referee

That means that it's immaterial whether they are right or wrong in any
particular instance

And all teams who take part in the game, accept that condition.

Could a team can hold a referee culpable?

Clearly not..

The whole basis of the rule is that refrees like everybody else can make mistakes. But regardless of that, whatever they decide, both teams
agree to accept their decisions.

If so couldn't there could be a personal case against a referee for negligence?

No.

Clubs do submit a report after every match however

So if a referee continued to drop clangers they would probably
be "rested" so as to get their confidence back; and if that failed
possibly dropped to a lower league.


bb






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On 19/09/2026 12:59, billy bookcase wrote:

"Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote in message news:118jod6$1esp0$1@dont-email.me...

On 16/09/2026 22:21, billy bookcase wrote:

"Jethro" <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote in message
news:118ek1n$3jgl6$1@dont-email.me...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ck4gjr5vly99o

However, if United were to feel - obviously unreasonably - that the
situation was not to their liking, then what options would they have ?

What goes around comes around

" Maresca says Manchester City still waiting for apology after disputed
2023 derby goal "

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/sep/16/enzo-maresca-manchester-city-apology-2023-derby-goal


In football, Law 5 states that

" *The decisions of the referee* regarding facts connected with play,
including whether or not a goal is scored and the result of the match,
*are final*."

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-5---the-referee

That means that it's immaterial whether they are right or wrong in any
particular instance

And all teams who take part in the game, accept that condition.

Could a team can hold a referee culpable?

Clearly not..

The whole basis of the rule is that refrees like everybody else can make mistakes. But regardless of that, whatever they decide, both teams
agree to accept their decisions.

If so couldn't there could be a personal case against a referee for
negligence?

No.

Clubs do submit a report after every match however

So if a referee continued to drop clangers they would probably
be "rested" so as to get their confidence back; and if that failed
possibly dropped to a lower league.

So if a betting companies lost millions due to a perverse decision where betting shenanigans were going on there would be no retrospective
question of their integrity?

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"Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote in message news:118muku$2k59j$1@dont-email.me...

On 19/09/2026 12:59, billy bookcase wrote:

"Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:118jod6$1esp0$1@dont-email.me...

On 16/09/2026 22:21, billy bookcase wrote:

"Jethro" <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote in message
news:118ek1n$3jgl6$1@dont-email.me...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ck4gjr5vly99o

However, if United were to feel - obviously unreasonably - that the
situation was not to their liking, then what options would they have ? >>>>

What goes around comes around

" Maresca says Manchester City still waiting for apology after disputed >>>> 2023 derby goal "

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/sep/16/enzo-maresca-manchester-city-apology-2023-derby-goal


In football, Law 5 states that

" *The decisions of the referee* regarding facts connected with play,
including whether or not a goal is scored and the result of the match, >>>> *are final*."

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-5---the-referee

That means that it's immaterial whether they are right or wrong in any >>>> particular instance

And all teams who take part in the game, accept that condition.

Could a team can hold a referee culpable?

Clearly not..

The whole basis of the rule is that refrees like everybody else can make
mistakes. But regardless of that, whatever they decide, both teams
agree to accept their decisions.

If so couldn't there could be a personal case against a referee for
negligence?

No.

Clubs do submit a report after every match however

So if a referee continued to drop clangers they would probably
be "rested" so as to get their confidence back; and if that failed
possibly dropped to a lower league.

So if a betting companies lost millions due to a perverse decision where betting shenanigans were going on there would be no retrospective question of their integrity?

To the best of my knowledge there have never been any
such allegations levelled against a UK referee at any level.

In the first place the form is too well known, second there are
too many random elements in any game, which means third that
the opportunity for one or two questionable decision to swing
a game might simply not arise.

As to match fixing by players themselves, in all of the best
known cases Peter Swan and Sheffield Wednesday in football
1963 and Hanse Cronje in cricket most of their attempts
seem to ended up in farce; and only came to light not as a
result of screaming bookies but of people telling tales to
the newspapers

"It was established that Gauld (63 organiser) had earned u3,275
from betting on football matches and u7,420 from having sold
his confessions to the Sunday People "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_British_football_match-fixing_scandal


bb




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