• Drink spiking - fancy that ....

    From Jethro@jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com to uk.legal.moderated on Thu Aug 13 16:02:52 2026
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    Just on numbers alone, I have always felt a little sceptical of the
    epidemic of drink spiking that is apparently sweeping the UK. This is a phenomena where assailants (presumably men) of bad intent are able to
    somehow safely titrate a powerful drug into the drink of an unsuspecting victim with no reports of any deaths.

    Yet - with a much much smaller sample size, it seems that actually giving drugs to random people is highly likely to lead to death.

    Pretty sure I am missing something here.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz972klkpkxo


    A couple who drugged men seeking sexual services in order to steal from
    them have been jailed for killing two men and poisoning others.

    Adina Mihai and Madalin Dumitru admitted the manslaughter of Gary Mouat,
    37, from Oxfordshire, and Malcolm King, 80, from Gloucestershire, in 2025
    and 2024 respectively.

    The pair also each admitted two further counts of administering poison to surviving victims on the first day of their trial in June.

    Mihai and Dumitru were both sentenced to 17 years in prison at Oxford
    Crown Court.

    Mihai, who posed as a sex worker, and her partner Dumitru, arranged to
    meet men paying for services she had advertised online at their homes.

    The court heard four had their alcoholic drinks spiked with the powerful sedative gamma-butyrolactone (GBL) so the pair could steal from them.

    Two men died as a result, while two others - who cannot be named due to reporting restrictions - survived.



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  • From Roger Hayter@roger@hayter.org to uk.legal.moderated on Thu Aug 13 19:06:07 2026
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    On 13 Aug 2026 at 17:02:52 BST, "Jethro" <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote:

    Just on numbers alone, I have always felt a little sceptical of the
    epidemic of drink spiking that is apparently sweeping the UK. This is a phenomena where assailants (presumably men) of bad intent are able to
    somehow safely titrate a powerful drug into the drink of an unsuspecting victim with no reports of any deaths.

    Yet - with a much much smaller sample size, it seems that actually giving drugs to random people is highly likely to lead to death.

    Pretty sure I am missing something here.

    Three obvious things. Firstly the usual victims are young and fit. Not older men some ill. Secondly the usual dose is enough to make the victim drowsy but easy to lead out on their feet, not immediately unconscious in their own home so they can be robbed. And thirdly, the assaillant usually accompanies the victim at least while he assaults her, and the drug is by then beginning to wear off.


    In other words two very different crimes.






    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz972klkpkxo


    A couple who drugged men seeking sexual services in order to steal from
    them have been jailed for killing two men and poisoning others.

    Adina Mihai and Madalin Dumitru admitted the manslaughter of Gary Mouat,
    37, from Oxfordshire, and Malcolm King, 80, from Gloucestershire, in 2025
    and 2024 respectively.

    The pair also each admitted two further counts of administering poison to surviving victims on the first day of their trial in June.

    Mihai and Dumitru were both sentenced to 17 years in prison at Oxford
    Crown Court.

    Mihai, who posed as a sex worker, and her partner Dumitru, arranged to
    meet men paying for services she had advertised online at their homes.

    The court heard four had their alcoholic drinks spiked with the powerful sedative gamma-butyrolactone (GBL) so the pair could steal from them.

    Two men died as a result, while two others - who cannot be named due to reporting restrictions - survived.
    --
    Roger Hayter

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  • From Jon Ribbens@jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu to uk.legal.moderated on Thu Aug 13 21:37:57 2026
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    On 2026-08-13, Jethro <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
    Just on numbers alone, I have always felt a little sceptical of the
    epidemic of drink spiking that is apparently sweeping the UK. This is a phenomena where assailants (presumably men) of bad intent are able to somehow safely titrate a powerful drug into the drink of an unsuspecting victim with no reports of any deaths.

    Yet - with a much much smaller sample size, it seems that actually giving drugs to random people is highly likely to lead to death.

    Pretty sure I am missing something here.

    Well no, you noticed it and ignored it: a sample size of 1 means nothing.
    Maybe these people are just complete idiots, even more so than normal.

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  • From Nick Finnigan@nix@genie.co.uk to uk.legal.moderated on Fri Aug 14 09:00:51 2026
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    On 13/08/2026 17:02, Jethro wrote:
    Just on numbers alone, I have always felt a little sceptical of the
    epidemic of drink spiking that is apparently sweeping the UK. This is a phenomena where assailants (presumably men) of bad intent are able to
    somehow safely titrate a powerful drug into the drink of an unsuspecting victim with no reports of any deaths.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsrelatedtodrugpoisoningbyselectedsubstances


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  • From GB@NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid to uk.legal.moderated on Fri Aug 14 15:00:08 2026
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    On 13/08/2026 22:37, Jon Ribbens wrote:
    On 2026-08-13, Jethro <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
    Just on numbers alone, I have always felt a little sceptical of the
    epidemic of drink spiking that is apparently sweeping the UK. This is a
    phenomena where assailants (presumably men) of bad intent are able to
    somehow safely titrate a powerful drug into the drink of an unsuspecting
    victim with no reports of any deaths.

    Yet - with a much much smaller sample size, it seems that actually giving
    drugs to random people is highly likely to lead to death.

    Pretty sure I am missing something here.

    Well no, you noticed it and ignored it: a sample size of 1 means nothing. Maybe these people are just complete idiots, even more so than normal.


    You'd have thought that, having killed one person, they'd have been far
    more careful in future. Apparently not.


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