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On 25/05/2026 15:19, Simon Simple wrote:

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of
lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm food shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached garage.
I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans of a
different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there was
only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I always
do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued together) and
putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely crush them by hand
and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge, not
in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the cupboards, washing machine etc in case I was distracted or sleepwalking or just
mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly put or left one in the
wrong place, but not three.-a They are nowhere to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken. The
back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but locks
can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can tell. The
only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get fingerprint or
DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but I
have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or maybe
some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

Do you live alone and if not, have you asked the people whom you live with?

Have you checked whether they are in your car. At my advanced age I find
that I sometimes have clear memories of actions that I regularly do,
which aren't necessarily reliable when I depart from those habits for
some reason.

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On 25/05/2026 16:12, The Todal wrote:

On 25/05/2026 15:19, Simon Simple wrote:

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of
lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm
food shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I
periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached
garage. I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans of
a different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there
was only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I
always do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued
together) and putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely
crush them by hand and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge,
not in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the
cupboards, washing machine etc in case I was distracted or
sleepwalking or just mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly
put or left one in the wrong place, but not three.-a They are nowhere
to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must
be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken.
The back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but
locks can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can tell.
The only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get
fingerprint or DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but I
have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or maybe
some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

Do you live alone and if not, have you asked the people whom you live with?

Have you checked whether they are in your car. At my advanced age I find that I sometimes have clear memories of actions that I regularly do,
which aren't necessarily reliable when I depart from those habits for
some reason.

I have checked the car, though I didn't use it yesterday. SWMBO can't
find them either. I just can't fathom it.
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On 25/05/2026 15:19, Simon Simple wrote:

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of
lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm food shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached garage.
I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans of a
different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there was
only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I always
do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued together) and
putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely crush them by hand
and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge, not
in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the cupboards, washing machine etc in case I was distracted or sleepwalking or just
mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly put or left one in the
wrong place, but not three. They are nowhere to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken. The
back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but locks
can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can tell. The
only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get fingerprint or
DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but I
have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or maybe
some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

Did you check the other containers in the detached garage? Is it
possible that they were put in one of the wrong ones?
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On 2026-05-25, Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote:

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken. The
back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but locks
can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can tell. The
only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get fingerprint or
DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but I
have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or maybe
some kind of scam.

I've obviously no idea where your tins have gone, but it seems to me
that if someone wanted to get somebody's DNA and/or fingerprints,
just nicking stuff out of their external bins would be much easier
and less risky than breaking into their house.

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Simon Simple wrote:

So where have the other three cans gone?

Have you had a bin collection on an "unexpected" day due to the bank
holiday? Could a helpful neighbour have put your bins out for you
thinking you'd missed it?

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Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote:

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of
lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm food shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached garage.
I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans of a
different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there was
only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I always
do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued together) and
putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely crush them by hand
and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge, not
in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the cupboards, washing machine etc in case I was distracted or sleepwalking or just
mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly put or left one in the
wrong place, but not three. They are nowhere to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken. The
back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but locks
can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can tell. The
only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get fingerprint or
DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but I
have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or maybe
some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

IrCOve seen people looking through public waste bins and retrieving / collecting drink cans a few times. I assume they collect enough aluminium
ones to sell for scrap.

Never seen / heard of people venturing onto private property to rCyretrieverCO cans ( note the quotes), let alone enter buildings but I suspect some may
do so.

Could you or someone who lives with you, have put them in the garage which
is perhaps unlocked?




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In message <10v1lq5$1d4j2$1@dont-email.me>, Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> writes

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of
lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm food >shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I >periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached
garage. I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans of
a different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there was
only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I always
do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued together) and
putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely crush them by hand
and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge,
not in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the
cupboards, washing machine etc in case I was distracted or sleepwalking
or just mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly put or left one
in the wrong place, but not three. They are nowhere to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must
be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken.
The back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but
locks can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can tell.
The only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get
fingerprint or DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but I
have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or maybe
some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

Foxes steal things, I've found a light bulb, numerous balls and dog's
toys in my garden. Neighbours trainers go missing. . Any way a fox
could get in looking for scraps ?

Brian
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On 25/05/2026 19:20, Andy Burns wrote:

Simon Simple wrote:

So where have the other three cans gone?

Have you had a bin collection on an "unexpected" day due to the bank holiday?-a Could a helpful neighbour have put your bins out for you
thinking you'd missed it?

No, and anyway, the missing tins should be in the kitchen bin, not in
the council bins which are in the closed garage. Our bin day is
Thursday, alternating for recycling which is due this Thursday. And
here, the bin men don't care about bank holidays other than Christmas
and dead queen Monday.

Yes, it's silly, but I'm genuinely at a loss to explain it other than
crazy sounding theories. At first I thought there must be some simple explanation, but there isn't and I'm actually quite anxious. These cans
have to be somewhere, but as far as I can tell, they're not here.
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On 25/05/2026 18:25, Jeff Layman wrote:

On 25/05/2026 15:19, Simon Simple wrote:

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of
lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm food
shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I
periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached garage.
I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans of a
different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there was
only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I always
do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued together) and
putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely crush them by hand
and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge, not
in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the cupboards,
washing machine etc in case I was distracted or sleepwalking or just
mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly put or left one in the
wrong place, but not three.-a They are nowhere to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must be
somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken. The
back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but locks
can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can tell. The
only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get fingerprint or
DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but I
have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or maybe
some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

Did you check the other containers in the detached garage? Is it
possible that they were put in one of the wrong ones?

Yes I did check. But they're not there, and anyway I didn't (and
wouldn't) update the garage bins late evening. I did that much earlier,
and the missing tins aren't there.

I know it sounds daft.
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"Simon Simple" <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote in message news:10v1lq5$1d4j2$1@dont-email.me...

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm food shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached garage. I had
done this earlier that day, including some lager cans of a different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there was only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I always do, and can
remember dismantling them (they come glued together) and putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely crush them by hand and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge, not in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the cupboards, washing
machine etc in case I was distracted or sleepwalking or just mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly put or left one in the wrong place, but not
three. They are nowhere to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken. The back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but locks can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can tell. The only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get fingerprint or DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but I have a
real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or maybe some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

Were you drinking outside, in the garden ?



bb



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On 25/05/2026 22:50, billy bookcase wrote:

"Simon Simple" <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote in message news:10v1lq5$1d4j2$1@dont-email.me...

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of lager, >> which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm food shopping. I >> drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I
periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached garage. I had
done this earlier that day, including some lager cans of a different type. >>
This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there was only >> one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I always do, and can
remember dismantling them (they come glued together) and putting them in the >> 'fridge. When empty, I routinely crush them by hand and put them in the
recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge, not in >> the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the cupboards, washing
machine etc in case I was distracted or sleepwalking or just mad. I could
maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly put or left one in the wrong place, but not
three. They are nowhere to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must be
somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken. The back >> door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but locks can be
picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can tell. The only reason I >> can think of for taking the cans is to get fingerprint or DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but I have a
real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or maybe some kind of >> scam.

Any ideas?

Were you drinking outside, in the garden ?

bb

No, in the kitchen. The kitchen opens up on to an enclosed yard, beyond
which is the garage and garden.
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On 25 May 2026 at 15:19:48 BST, "Simon Simple" <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk>
wrote:

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of
lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm food shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached garage.
I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans of a
different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there was
only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I always
do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued together) and
putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely crush them by hand
and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge, not
in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the cupboards, washing machine etc in case I was distracted or sleepwalking or just
mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly put or left one in the
wrong place, but not three. They are nowhere to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken. The
back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but locks
can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can tell. The
only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get fingerprint or
DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but I
have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or maybe
some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

Are you totally sure you didn't have a left over can that night, and not
bother to open a new set of four?
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On 25/05/2026 15:23, brian wrote:

In message <10v1lq5$1d4j2$1@dont-email.me>, Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> writes

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of
lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm
food shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I
periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached
garage. I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans of
a different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there
was only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I
always do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued
together) and putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely
crush them by hand and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge,
not in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the
cupboards, washing machine etc in case I was distracted or
sleepwalking or just mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly
put or left one in the wrong place, but not three.-a They are nowhere
to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must
be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken.
The back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but
locks can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can tell.
The only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get
fingerprint or DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but I
have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or maybe
some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

Foxes steal things, I've found a light bulb, numerous balls and dog's
toys in my garden. Neighbours-a trainers go missing. . Any way a fox
could get in looking for scraps ?

Brian

Well, there was one can of four in the kitchen recycling bin this
morning. I could have been in the living room with the last one when a
fox (or magpie) made off with the other three. If that sounds sarcastic,
it's not meant to. It's a straw to clutch at.
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On 26/05/2026 00:20, Roger Hayter wrote:

On 25 May 2026 at 15:19:48 BST, "Simon Simple" <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote:

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of
lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm food
shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I
periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached garage.
I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans of a
different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there was
only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I always
do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued together) and
putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely crush them by hand
and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge, not
in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the cupboards,
washing machine etc in case I was distracted or sleepwalking or just
mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly put or left one in the
wrong place, but not three. They are nowhere to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must be
somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken. The
back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but locks
can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can tell. The
only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get fingerprint or
DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but I
have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or maybe
some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

Are you totally sure you didn't have a left over can that night, and not bother to open a new set of four?

Yes, absolutely sure. Still no further forward really. Even if SWMBO or
I did something weird in our sleep (without the other noticing), the
empty cans would still exist somewhere.
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On 25/05/2026 22:30, Andy Burns wrote:

Brian wrote:

IrCOve seen people looking through public waste bins and retrieving /
collecting drink cans a few times. I assume they collect enough aluminium
ones to sell for scrap.

I collected (and squashed) over a years worth of aluminium cans and
weighed them in (along with various other copper/brass/lead scrap) lets
just say I still collect copper/brass/lead scrap.

An individual home's worth output of cans probably isn't worth it. We certainly don't produce that many.


However, the people I saw were carrying black sacks (bin bags) which
seemed to be full of cans. They didn't seem to be crushing them before
popping then in the bag. I doubt we'd fill a big bag in a year with
aluminium cans- even uncrushed.

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On Mon, 25 May 2026 15:19:48 +0100, Simon Simple
<nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote:

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of
lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm food >shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I >periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached garage.
I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans of a
different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there was
only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I always
do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued together) and
putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely crush them by hand
and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge, not
in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the cupboards, >washing machine etc in case I was distracted or sleepwalking or just
mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly put or left one in the
wrong place, but not three. They are nowhere to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must be >somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken. The
back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but locks
can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can tell. The
only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get fingerprint or
DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but I
have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or maybe
some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

How do you pay for these purchases? Would there be/should there be an identifiable entry somewhere on your bank statement?

You might think my own absentmindedness prompted this suggestion. I
couldn't possibly comment :-)

Nick

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On 2026-05-25, Simon Simple wrote:

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

...

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken. The
back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but locks
can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can tell. The
only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get fingerprint or
DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but I
have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or maybe
some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

Do you have a carbon monoxide detector? I have heard anecdotes about
sub-lethal levels of CO in a house causing sleepwalking-like forgotten behaviour.

(Just to be clear, I am not trying to be funny or facetious.)

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Brian wrote:

An individual home's worth output of cans probably isn't worth it. We certainly don't produce that many.

However, the people I saw were carrying black sacks (bin bags) which
seemed to be full of cans. They didn't seem to be crushing them before popping then in the bag.-a I doubt we'd fill a big bag in a year with aluminium cans- even uncrushed.

IIRC, I had two "one tonne" builders bags of squished cans.

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On 26/05/2026 14:53, Nick Odell wrote:

<xxxx>

How do you pay for these purchases? Would there be/should there be an identifiable entry somewhere on your bank statement?

You might think my own absentmindedness prompted this suggestion. I
couldn't possibly comment :-)

Nick

Debit card, and the bank shows the right amount for four cans and some
eggs. Anyway, I /always/ buy a four pack.

Absent minded? I once drove to the local off licence because it was
absolutely pissing down. The next day, I couldn't find my car. That
turned out to be because it was parked outside the off licence and not
my house.

While I was in there, the rain stopped, and I walked the short distance
home as usual.

But that was maybe 40 years ago when I was sane.
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On 26/05/2026 09:31, billy bookcase wrote:

"Simon Simple" <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote in message news:10v2lcb$1nk3m$2@dont-email.me...

Well, there was one can of four in the kitchen recycling bin this morning.

Does the recycling bin have a liner ?

Have you removed the liner or shaken the bin to ensure that the three
missing cans hadn't somehow slipped down the side ?

Apologies for the fact that the answers to most of these questions
will probably be "of course I have" or similar.

bb

Thanks but no liner, just a small red bin. No possibility of missing
anything.
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On 26/05/2026 09:52, Davey wrote:

<xxxx>

It sounds as though a small CCTV system, or even just a trail camera,
might help.

Thanks, I do have a trail camera which I'd forgotten about. It's now
setup looking for the phantom can thief.
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On 26/05/2026 00:18, Simon Simple wrote:

On 25/05/2026 15:23, brian wrote:

In message <10v1lq5$1d4j2$1@dont-email.me>, Simon Simple
<nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> writes

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of
lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm
food shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I
periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached
garage. I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans
of a different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there
was only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I
always do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued
together) and putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely
crush them by hand and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge,
not in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the
cupboards, washing machine etc in case I was distracted or
sleepwalking or just mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly
put or left one in the wrong place, but not three.-a They are nowhere
to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must
be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken.
The back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but
locks can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can
tell. The only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get
fingerprint or DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but
I have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or
maybe some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

Foxes steal things, I've found a light bulb, numerous balls and dog's
toys in my garden. Neighbours-a trainers go missing. . Any way a fox
could get in looking for scraps ?

Brian

Well, there was one can of four in the kitchen recycling bin this
morning. I could have been in the living room with the last one when a
fox (or magpie) made off with the other three. If that sounds sarcastic, it's not meant to. It's a straw to clutch at.

Do you have a cat flap?

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<xxxx>

Do you have a cat flap?

No, nor a flat cap. The back door could have been open for some of the evening, but it's hard to imagine an animal doing this without upsetting
the bin. It's about 40cm high.
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On 2026-05-27, Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote:

On 27/05/2026 09:50, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:

<xxxx>

Do you have a cat flap?

No, nor a flat cap. The back door could have been open for some of the evening, but it's hard to imagine an animal doing this without upsetting
the bin. It's about 40cm high.

Do you recall having recently upset an evil fairy, who cursed you
such that what appeared to you to be a single night's sleep was
actually one hundred years, and so your aluminium cans decomposed?

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On 27 May 2026 at 11:57:49 BST, "Simon Simple" <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk>
wrote:

On 27/05/2026 09:50, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:

<xxxx>

Do you have a cat flap?

No, nor a flat cap. The back door could have been open for some of the evening, but it's hard to imagine an animal doing this without upsetting
the bin. It's about 40cm high.

Magpie?
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On Tue, 26 May 2026 23:00:22 +0100
Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote:

On 26/05/2026 09:52, Davey wrote:

<xxxx>

It sounds as though a small CCTV system, or even just a trail
camera, might help.

Thanks, I do have a trail camera which I'd forgotten about. It's now
setup looking for the phantom can thief.

The Can Cam?
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On Mon, 25 May 2026 15:19:48 +0100
Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote:

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of
lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm
food shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached
garage. I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans
of a different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there
was only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I
always do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued
together) and putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely
crush them by hand and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge,
not in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the
cupboards, washing machine etc in case I was distracted or
sleepwalking or just mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly
put or left one in the wrong place, but not three. They are nowhere
to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must
be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken.
The back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but
locks can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can
tell. The only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get fingerprint or DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but
I have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or
maybe some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

Was there any resolution of this?
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On 03/06/2026 17:41, Davey wrote:

On Mon, 25 May 2026 15:19:48 +0100
Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote:

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of
lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm
food shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I
periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached
garage. I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans
of a different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there
was only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I
always do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued
together) and putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely
crush them by hand and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge,
not in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the
cupboards, washing machine etc in case I was distracted or
sleepwalking or just mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly
put or left one in the wrong place, but not three. They are nowhere
to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must
be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken.
The back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but
locks can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can
tell. The only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get
fingerprint or DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but
I have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or
maybe some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

Was there any resolution of this?

No, I'm afraid not. Time is making me a bit less paranoid, but I still
can think of no rationable explanation.

So, Davey. Where were you on the evening of 24th May?
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On Wed, 3 Jun 2026 22:56:16 +0100
Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote:

On 03/06/2026 17:41, Davey wrote:

On Mon, 25 May 2026 15:19:48 +0100
Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote:

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack
of lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if
I'm food shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the
evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I
periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached
garage. I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans
of a different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there
was only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four,
I always do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued
together) and putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely
crush them by hand and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the
'fridge, not in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked
all the cupboards, washing machine etc in case I was distracted or
sleepwalking or just mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly
put or left one in the wrong place, but not three. They are
nowhere to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They
must be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have
been taken. The back door was locked, and we have new locks as of
11th May, but locks can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as
far as I can tell. The only reason I can think of for taking the
cans is to get fingerprint or DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that),
but I have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something,
or maybe some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

Was there any resolution of this?

No, I'm afraid not. Time is making me a bit less paranoid, but I
still can think of no rationable explanation.

So, Davey. Where were you on the evening of 24th May?

Not at the pub, that's Thursdays........!
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I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of
lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm food shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached garage.
I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans of a
different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there was
only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I always
do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued together) and
putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely crush them by hand
and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge, not
in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the cupboards, washing machine etc in case I was distracted or sleepwalking or just
mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly put or left one in the
wrong place, but not three. They are nowhere to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken. The
back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but locks
can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can tell. The
only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get fingerprint or
DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but I
have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or maybe
some kind of scam.

Any ideas?
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Brian wrote:

IrCOve seen people looking through public waste bins and retrieving / collecting drink cans a few times. I assume they collect enough aluminium ones to sell for scrap.

I collected (and squashed) over a years worth of aluminium cans and
weighed them in (along with various other copper/brass/lead scrap) lets
just say I still collect copper/brass/lead scrap.


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"Simon Simple" <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote in message news:10v2lcb$1nk3m$2@dont-email.me...

Well, there was one can of four in the kitchen recycling bin this morning.

Does the recycling bin have a liner ?

Have you removed the liner or shaken the bin to ensure that the three
missing cans hadn't somehow slipped down the side ?

Apologies for the fact that the answers to most of these questions
will probably be "of course I have" or similar.


bb



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On Mon, 25 May 2026 15:19:48 +0100
Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote:

I'm aware that this sounds crazy, but it is true.

Yesterday evening I went to the local shop and bought a four pack of
lager, which I often do. Sometimes I buy from a supermarket if I'm
food shopping. I drink these throughout the course of the evening.

We have a medium sized bin in the kitchen for the recycling which I periodically sort into the respective containers in the detached
garage. I had done this earlier that day, including some lager cans
of a different type.

This morning when I went to the kitchen to make tea I noticed there
was only one empty can in the recycling bin. I know I bought four, I
always do, and can remember dismantling them (they come glued
together) and putting them in the 'fridge. When empty, I routinely
crush them by hand and put them in the recycling bin.

So where have the other three cans gone? They're not in the 'fridge,
not in the main bin, not in the garage bins. I've checked all the
cupboards, washing machine etc in case I was distracted or
sleepwalking or just mad. I could maybe believe I'd absent-mindedly
put or left one in the wrong place, but not three. They are nowhere
to be found.

This may sound a trivial matter, but I'm genuinely worried. They must
be somewhere, and if they're not here then they must have been taken.
The back door was locked, and we have new locks as of 11th May, but
locks can be picked. Nothing else has been taken as far as I can
tell. The only reason I can think of for taking the cans is to get fingerprint or DNA samples.

I'm not normally paranoid (though of course I /would/ say that), but
I have a real concern that I might be fitted up for something, or
maybe some kind of scam.

Any ideas?

It sounds as though a small CCTV system, or even just a trail camera,
might help.
--
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