After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres
offer was too good to beat.
Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving -u65/month over Virgin.
Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole isTry a decent ISP . I use IDNET.
installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m required.
Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.
All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
the house) were discounted as "health and safety".
On 23/09/2026 14:29, Jethro wrote:
After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibresWEll it appears it actually wasn't.
offer was too good to beat.
Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to savingHOW much?
-u65/month over Virgin.
My fibre is around -u30 a month.
Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole isTry a decent ISP . I use IDNET.
installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
required.
Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.
All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
the house) were discounted as "health and safety".
https://www.idnet.com/home-professional.php
Their current entry level is more than I have or pay from them - its
115Mbps at -u37.50 per month. Supply and configure your own router, fixed
IP address standard.
They use openreach fibre - or others if available in your area..
Openreach are supposed to be able to reach everywhere that's been
fibred, or else.
Other good ISPs are A & A and Zen.
It amazes me that people spend ages trying to knock the price of a pint
of beer of their broadband and then moan about support and congestion
Pay more and dont drink on the last day of every month
After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibresWe just had a similar disappointment with CityFibre. Their online
offer was too good to beat.
Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving -u65/month over Virgin.
Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m required.
Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.
All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
the house) were discounted as "health and safety".
On Wed, 23 Sep 2026 14:49:15 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:What do these comparison sites highlight?
On 23/09/2026 14:29, Jethro wrote:
After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibresWEll it appears it actually wasn't.
offer was too good to beat.
Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to savingHOW much?
-u65/month over Virgin.
My fibre is around -u30 a month.
I was looking for their -u25/month deal over the -u85 from VM (which
includes the now rarely used TiVo).
Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole isTry a decent ISP . I use IDNET.
installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
required.
Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.
All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
the house) were discounted as "health and safety".
All the comparison sites show VM or YouFibre.
https://www.idnet.com/home-professional.php
Their current entry level is more than I have or pay from them - its
115Mbps at -u37.50 per month. Supply and configure your own router, fixed
IP address standard.
They use openreach fibre - or others if available in your area..
Openreach are supposed to be able to reach everywhere that's been
fibred, or else.
Other good ISPs are A & A and Zen.
Zen don't cover me, and A&A only offer ADSL
It amazes me that people spend ages trying to knock the price of a pint
of beer of their broadband and then moan about support and congestion
Pay more and dont drink on the last day of every month
On 23/09/2026 14:29, Jethro wrote:
After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibresWe just had a similar disappointment with CityFibre. Their online
offer was too good to beat.
Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving
-u65/month over Virgin.
Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
required.
Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.
All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
the house) were discounted as "health and safety".
checker claimed that our address could get their fibre service,
installed a couple of years ago all along the next street. Although our address is another road we are #1 in that road and one of their manhole covers is just a few metres from the the corner of our front garden. So
I signed up with Zen to get FTTP.
So we paid Zen for a month in advance. After a week they told us that CityFibre now say that a connection to us is impossible - but I can't
find out why. Re-checking CityFibres availability checker it still says "Great news. You can connect to the CityFibre network". But for all
other addresses in our road it says they cannot connect.
Zen refuses to give me more information and so far the promised refund
has not appeared. I can't find any way of contacting CityFibre, whose availability checker is clearly at fault.
After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibresMy son recently got 1 Gb/s Hyperoptic, for ~-u22 a month. Obviously just
offer was too good to beat.
Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving -u65/month over Virgin.
Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m required.
Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.
All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
the house) were discounted as "health and safety".
On 9/23/26 14:29, Jethro wrote:
After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibresMy son recently got 1 Gb/s Hyperoptic, for ~-u22 a month. Obviously just
offer was too good to beat.
Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving -u65/month
over Virgin.
Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
required.
Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.
All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
the house) were discounted as "health and safety".
for fun as I don't think normal people notice the difference above 100
Mb/s.
It has CGNAT, so I've been trying to do things with IPv6. It is a bit irritating that Hyperoptic don't even give you a static IPv6 address. So
I have to set up DDNS for IPv6. FWIW ddclient for Linux doesn't work properly bah!.
On 24/09/2026 17:33, Pancho wrote:
On 9/23/26 14:29, Jethro wrote:NICE!
After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibresMy son recently got 1 Gb/s Hyperoptic, for ~-u22 a month. Obviously
offer was too good to beat.
Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving -u65/month >>> over Virgin.
Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
required.
Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.
All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
the house) were discounted as "health and safety".
just for fun as I don't think normal people notice the difference
above 100 Mb/s.
In my case I use NFS to push files to and from my private VPS machines
and it would make a huge difference, but not one that is worth paying
extra for
It has CGNAT, so I've been trying to do things with IPv6. It is a bit
irritating that Hyperoptic don't even give you a static IPv6 address.
So I have to set up DDNS for IPv6. FWIW ddclient for Linux doesn't
work properly bah!.
No wonder it's cheap. CGNAT? Ugh! Spit! DDNS-a for IPV6 sounds totally ghastly.
On 9/24/26 18:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/09/2026 17:33, Pancho wrote:
On 9/23/26 14:29, Jethro wrote:NICE!
After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres >>>> offer was too good to beat.My son recently got 1 Gb/s Hyperoptic, for ~-u22 a month. Obviously
Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving
-u65/month
over Virgin.
Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the >>>> pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
required.
Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.
All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of >>>> the house) were discounted as "health and safety".
just for fun as I don't think normal people notice the difference
above 100 Mb/s.
In my case I use NFS to push files to and from my private VPS machines
and it would make a huge difference, but not one that is worth paying
extra for
It has CGNAT, so I've been trying to do things with IPv6. It is a bit
irritating that Hyperoptic don't even give you a static IPv6 address.
So I have to set up DDNS for IPv6. FWIW ddclient for Linux doesn't
work properly bah!.
No wonder it's cheap. CGNAT? Ugh! Spit! DDNS-a for IPV6 sounds totally
ghastly.
You can buy a static IP for about an extra -u5 a month. I'm not sure how necessary it is. I suspect everything is workable, with IPv6. Maybe even better. VoIP SIP/RTP appears to work with CGNAT, but the phone hasn't
been used much.
I've had IPv6 for 15 years, with IDNet, but never bothered to really useditto
it.
how many people have ipv6 enabled?
On 23/09/2026 14:29, Jethro wrote:
After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibresWe just had a similar disappointment with CityFibre. Their online
offer was too good to beat.
Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving u65/month
over Virgin.
Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m required. >>
Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.
All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
the house) were discounted as "health and safety".
checker claimed that our address could get their fibre service,
installed a couple of years ago all along the next street. Although our >address is another road we are #1 in that road and one of their manhole >covers is just a few metres from the the corner of our front garden. So
I signed up with Zen to get FTTP.
So we paid Zen for a month in advance. After a week they told us that >CityFibre now say that a connection to us is impossible - but I can't
find out why. Re-checking CityFibres availability checker it still says >"Great news. You can connect to the CityFibre network". But for all
other addresses in our road it says they cannot connect.
Zen refuses to give me more information and so far the promised refund
has not appeared. I can't find any way of contacting CityFibre, whose >availability checker is clearly at fault.
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
how many people have ipv6 enabled?
Google show that globally around 45-50% of traffic reaching them is on
IPv6, slightly above that in the UK ... France/Germany/Russia are 75-85%
<https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html>--
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
how many people have ipv6 enabled?
Google show that globally around 45-50% of traffic reaching them is on
IPv6, slightly above that in the UK ... France/Germany/Russia are 75-85%
<https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html>
On 25/09/2026 09:40, Andy Burns wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
how many people have ipv6 enabled?
Google show that globally around 45-50% of traffic reaching them is on
IPv6, slightly above that in the UK ... France/Germany/Russia are 75-85%
<https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html>
-aNoticably higher at weekends.-a My work IP is v4 only but home has
both, with a more accurate location shown for the v6 addresses.
On 9/24/26 18:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
[quoted text muted]
You can buy a static IP for about an extra -u5 a month. I'm not sure how necessary it is. I suspect everything is workable, with IPv6. Maybe even better. VoIP SIP/RTP appears to work with CGNAT, but the phone hasn't
been used much.
If you can access the simple game loopsofzen.co.uk you have
working IPv6.
After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres
offer was too good to beat.
Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving -u65/month over Virgin.
Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m required.
Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.
All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
the house) were discounted as "health and safety".
Jethro wrote:
Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
required.
Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.
All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
the house) were discounted as "health and safety".
If you have a list of suppliers in preferred order, go for the next one.
You might eventually find an Openreach (assuming it is them) to turn a
blind eye to the height.
Perhaps their statistics of lost orders might cause the pole to be raised?
On 23/09/2026 14:29, Jethro wrote:
After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres
offer was too good to beat.
Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving
-u65/month over Virgin.
Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
required.
Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.
All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
the house) were discounted as "health and safety".
If you have a list of suppliers in preferred order, go for the next one.
You might eventually find an Openreach (assuming it is them) to turn a
blind eye to the height.
Perhaps their statistics of lost orders might cause the pole to be
raised?
how many people have ipv6 enabled?The vast majority.
John R Walliker wrote:
If you can access the simple game loopsofzen.co.uk you have
working IPv6.
I only get that (and the dancing turtle) wen using firefox freebie VPN
Am 25.09.26 um 13:25 schrieb Andy Burns:Oh I know what it means, they're on their second "trial" but no sign of
John R Walliker wrote:
If you can access the simple game loopsofzen.co.uk you have
working IPv6.
I only get that (and the dancing turtle) wen using firefox freebie VPN
That means that your regular internet connection does not support IPv6. Check your ISP and router settings if the ISP offers it.
Am 25.09.26 um 10:04 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
how many people have ipv6 enabled?The vast majority.
Android, Apple iOS, macOS, Windows and Linux have it enabled by default
and there is no reason to disable it.
Various large ISPs provide IPv6 to the customers and their routers have
it enabled by default too, so they will use it if the ISP provides it.
APNIC provides statistics:
https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6
You can clearly see when a large ISP enabled IPv6 for the customers, as
the usage is increasing fast during that process.
In article <1198483$dpvl$1@solani.org>, Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de>
wrote:
APNIC provides statistics: https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6
Google has a graph showing the proporition of users connecting to them
by IPv6:
https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=ipv6-adoption
It's very noticable that (relative) IPv6 usage is higher when people are
not at work: weekends, Christmas, and a huge jump at the beginning of
covid lockdowns.
I suspect this is mostly due to IPv6 on mobile phones, rather than home internet connections.
-- Richard
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