• YouFibre disappointment

    From Jethro@jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Sep 23 13:29:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres
    offer was too good to beat.

    Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving -u65/month
    over Virgin.

    Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
    installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
    pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m required.

    Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
    doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.

    All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
    the house) were discounted as "health and safety".


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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Wed Sep 23 14:49:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 23/09/2026 14:29, Jethro wrote:
    After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres
    offer was too good to beat.

    WEll it appears it actually wasn't.

    Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving -u65/month over Virgin.

    HOW much?
    My fibre is around -u30 a month.

    Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
    installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
    pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m required.

    Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
    doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.

    All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
    the house) were discounted as "health and safety".


    Try a decent ISP . I use IDNET.

    https://www.idnet.com/home-professional.php

    Their current entry level is more than I have or pay from them - its
    115Mbps at -u37.50 per month. Supply and configure your own router, fixed
    IP address standard.

    They use openreach fibre - or others if available in your area..
    Openreach are supposed to be able to reach everywhere that's been
    fibred, or else.

    Other good ISPs are A & A and Zen.

    It amazes me that people spend ages trying to knock the price of a pint
    of beer of their broadband and then moan about support and congestion
    Pay more and dont drink on the last day of every month
    --
    rCLIt is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
    who pay no price for being wrong.rCY

    Thomas Sowell

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  • From Jethro@jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Sep 23 14:27:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Wed, 23 Sep 2026 14:49:15 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 23/09/2026 14:29, Jethro wrote:
    After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres
    offer was too good to beat.

    WEll it appears it actually wasn't.

    Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving
    -u65/month over Virgin.

    HOW much?
    My fibre is around -u30 a month.

    I was looking for their -u25/month deal over the -u85 from VM (which
    includes the now rarely used TiVo).

    Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
    installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
    pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
    required.

    Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
    doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.

    All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
    the house) were discounted as "health and safety".


    Try a decent ISP . I use IDNET.

    All the comparison sites show VM or YouFibre.

    https://www.idnet.com/home-professional.php

    Their current entry level is more than I have or pay from them - its
    115Mbps at -u37.50 per month. Supply and configure your own router, fixed
    IP address standard.

    They use openreach fibre - or others if available in your area..
    Openreach are supposed to be able to reach everywhere that's been
    fibred, or else.

    Other good ISPs are A & A and Zen.

    Zen don't cover me, and A&A only offer ADSL


    It amazes me that people spend ages trying to knock the price of a pint
    of beer of their broadband and then moan about support and congestion
    Pay more and dont drink on the last day of every month

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  • From Clive Page@clive.g.page@gmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Sep 24 09:28:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 23/09/2026 14:29, Jethro wrote:
    After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres
    offer was too good to beat.

    Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving -u65/month over Virgin.

    Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
    installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
    pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m required.

    Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
    doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.

    All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
    the house) were discounted as "health and safety".


    We just had a similar disappointment with CityFibre. Their online
    checker claimed that our address could get their fibre service,
    installed a couple of years ago all along the next street. Although our address is another road we are #1 in that road and one of their manhole
    covers is just a few metres from the the corner of our front garden. So
    I signed up with Zen to get FTTP.

    So we paid Zen for a month in advance. After a week they told us that CityFibre now say that a connection to us is impossible - but I can't
    find out why. Re-checking CityFibres availability checker it still says
    "Great news. You can connect to the CityFibre network". But for all
    other addresses in our road it says they cannot connect.

    Zen refuses to give me more information and so far the promised refund
    has not appeared. I can't find any way of contacting CityFibre, whose availability checker is clearly at fault.
    --
    Clive Page

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Thu Sep 24 10:12:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 23/09/2026 15:27, Jethro wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Sep 2026 14:49:15 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 23/09/2026 14:29, Jethro wrote:
    After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres
    offer was too good to beat.

    WEll it appears it actually wasn't.

    Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving
    -u65/month over Virgin.

    HOW much?
    My fibre is around -u30 a month.

    I was looking for their -u25/month deal over the -u85 from VM (which
    includes the now rarely used TiVo).

    Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
    installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
    pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
    required.

    Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
    doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.

    All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
    the house) were discounted as "health and safety".


    Try a decent ISP . I use IDNET.

    All the comparison sites show VM or YouFibre.

    What do these comparison sites highlight?
    Who runs these sites?
    Have you actually asked real people, rather than web sites who could be
    lying through their back teeth, for money?

    And since clearly YouFibre cannot supply you, what credence does that
    shed on that comparison website?

    https://www.idnet.com/home-professional.php

    Their current entry level is more than I have or pay from them - its
    115Mbps at -u37.50 per month. Supply and configure your own router, fixed
    IP address standard.

    They use openreach fibre - or others if available in your area..
    Openreach are supposed to be able to reach everywhere that's been
    fibred, or else.

    Other good ISPs are A & A and Zen.

    Zen don't cover me, and A&A only offer ADSL

    I am surprised.
    It is extremely rare for any area to be so attractive to a fibre
    supplier that its served by just one independent fibre company


    It amazes me that people spend ages trying to knock the price of a pint
    of beer of their broadband and then moan about support and congestion
    Pay more and dont drink on the last day of every month

    --
    ItrCOs easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. Mark Twain



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  • From Jethro@jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Sep 24 15:38:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 09:28:08 +0100, Clive Page wrote:

    On 23/09/2026 14:29, Jethro wrote:
    After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres
    offer was too good to beat.

    Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving
    -u65/month over Virgin.

    Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
    installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
    pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
    required.

    Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
    doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.

    All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
    the house) were discounted as "health and safety".


    We just had a similar disappointment with CityFibre. Their online
    checker claimed that our address could get their fibre service,
    installed a couple of years ago all along the next street. Although our address is another road we are #1 in that road and one of their manhole covers is just a few metres from the the corner of our front garden. So
    I signed up with Zen to get FTTP.

    So we paid Zen for a month in advance. After a week they told us that CityFibre now say that a connection to us is impossible - but I can't
    find out why. Re-checking CityFibres availability checker it still says "Great news. You can connect to the CityFibre network". But for all
    other addresses in our road it says they cannot connect.

    Zen refuses to give me more information and so far the promised refund
    has not appeared. I can't find any way of contacting CityFibre, whose availability checker is clearly at fault.

    This would not be such an issue with me if I hadn't had at least 4
    seperate callers urging me to sign up with YouFibre(or brsk as they were
    when the poles were put up). That's what's fired my annoyance.
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  • From Pancho@Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Sep 24 17:33:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 9/23/26 14:29, Jethro wrote:
    After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres
    offer was too good to beat.

    Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving -u65/month over Virgin.

    Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
    installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
    pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m required.

    Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
    doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.

    All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
    the house) were discounted as "health and safety".


    My son recently got 1 Gb/s Hyperoptic, for ~-u22 a month. Obviously just
    for fun as I don't think normal people notice the difference above 100
    Mb/s.

    It has CGNAT, so I've been trying to do things with IPv6. It is a bit irritating that Hyperoptic don't even give you a static IPv6 address. So
    I have to set up DDNS for IPv6. FWIW ddclient for Linux doesn't work
    properly bah!.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Thu Sep 24 18:50:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 24/09/2026 17:33, Pancho wrote:
    On 9/23/26 14:29, Jethro wrote:
    After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres
    offer was too good to beat.

    Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving -u65/month
    over Virgin.

    Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
    installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
    pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
    required.

    Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
    doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.

    All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
    the house) were discounted as "health and safety".

    My son recently got 1 Gb/s Hyperoptic, for ~-u22 a month. Obviously just
    for fun as I don't think normal people notice the difference above 100
    Mb/s.

    NICE!

    In my case I use NFS to push files to and from my private VPS machines
    and it would make a huge difference, but not one that is worth paying
    extra for

    It has CGNAT, so I've been trying to do things with IPv6. It is a bit irritating that Hyperoptic don't even give you a static IPv6 address. So
    I have to set up DDNS for IPv6. FWIW ddclient for Linux doesn't work properly bah!.

    No wonder it's cheap. CGNAT? Ugh! Spit! DDNS for IPV6 sounds totally
    ghastly.
    --
    When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over
    the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that
    authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

    Fr|-d|-ric Bastiat

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  • From Pancho@Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Sep 24 20:44:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 9/24/26 18:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 24/09/2026 17:33, Pancho wrote:
    On 9/23/26 14:29, Jethro wrote:
    After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres
    offer was too good to beat.

    Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving -u65/month >>> over Virgin.

    Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
    installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
    pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
    required.

    Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
    doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.

    All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
    the house) were discounted as "health and safety".

    My son recently got 1 Gb/s Hyperoptic, for ~-u22 a month. Obviously
    just for fun as I don't think normal people notice the difference
    above 100 Mb/s.

    NICE!

    In my case I use NFS to push files to and from my private VPS machines
    and it would make a huge difference, but not one that is worth paying
    extra for

    It has CGNAT, so I've been trying to do things with IPv6. It is a bit
    irritating that Hyperoptic don't even give you a static IPv6 address.
    So I have to set up DDNS for IPv6. FWIW ddclient for Linux doesn't
    work properly bah!.

    No wonder it's cheap. CGNAT? Ugh! Spit! DDNS-a for IPV6 sounds totally ghastly.


    You can buy a static IP for about an extra -u5 a month. I'm not sure how necessary it is. I suspect everything is workable, with IPv6. Maybe even better. VoIP SIP/RTP appears to work with CGNAT, but the phone hasn't
    been used much.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Fri Sep 25 09:04:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 24/09/2026 20:44, Pancho wrote:
    On 9/24/26 18:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 24/09/2026 17:33, Pancho wrote:
    On 9/23/26 14:29, Jethro wrote:
    After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres >>>> offer was too good to beat.

    Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving
    -u65/month
    over Virgin.

    Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
    installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the >>>> pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
    required.

    Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
    doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.

    All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of >>>> the house) were discounted as "health and safety".

    My son recently got 1 Gb/s Hyperoptic, for ~-u22 a month. Obviously
    just for fun as I don't think normal people notice the difference
    above 100 Mb/s.

    NICE!

    In my case I use NFS to push files to and from my private VPS machines
    and it would make a huge difference, but not one that is worth paying
    extra for

    It has CGNAT, so I've been trying to do things with IPv6. It is a bit
    irritating that Hyperoptic don't even give you a static IPv6 address.
    So I have to set up DDNS for IPv6. FWIW ddclient for Linux doesn't
    work properly bah!.

    No wonder it's cheap. CGNAT? Ugh! Spit! DDNS-a for IPV6 sounds totally
    ghastly.


    You can buy a static IP for about an extra -u5 a month. I'm not sure how necessary it is. I suspect everything is workable, with IPv6. Maybe even better. VoIP SIP/RTP appears to work with CGNAT, but the phone hasn't
    been used much.

    how many people have ipv6 enabled?

    I've had IPv6 for 15 years, with IDNet, but never bothered to really use
    it.
    ditto
    --
    Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich
    people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason
    they are poor.

    Peter Thompson

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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Fri Sep 25 09:40:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    how many people have ipv6 enabled?

    Google show that globally around 45-50% of traffic reaching them is on
    IPv6, slightly above that in the UK ... France/Germany/Russia are 75-85%

    <https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html>
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  • From tony sayer@tony@bancom.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Fri Sep 25 10:35:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    In article <1192mv4$2gb4v$1@dont-email.me>, Clive Page
    <clive.g.page@gmail.com> scribeth thus
    On 23/09/2026 14:29, Jethro wrote:
    After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres
    offer was too good to beat.

    Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving u65/month
    over Virgin.

    Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
    installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
    pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m required. >>
    Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
    doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.

    All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
    the house) were discounted as "health and safety".


    We just had a similar disappointment with CityFibre. Their online
    checker claimed that our address could get their fibre service,
    installed a couple of years ago all along the next street. Although our >address is another road we are #1 in that road and one of their manhole >covers is just a few metres from the the corner of our front garden. So
    I signed up with Zen to get FTTP.

    So we paid Zen for a month in advance. After a week they told us that >CityFibre now say that a connection to us is impossible - but I can't
    find out why. Re-checking CityFibres availability checker it still says >"Great news. You can connect to the CityFibre network". But for all
    other addresses in our road it says they cannot connect.

    Zen refuses to give me more information and so far the promised refund
    has not appeared. I can't find any way of contacting CityFibre, whose >availability checker is clearly at fault.


    Had a similar thing here but it wasn't Zen's fault they paid us a bit of compensation for all the bother.

    sh City fibbber ought to get their act together..
    --
    Tony Sayer


    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

    Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.


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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Fri Sep 25 11:00:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 25/09/2026 09:40, Andy Burns wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    how many people have ipv6 enabled?

    Google show that globally around 45-50% of traffic reaching them is on
    IPv6, slightly above that in the UK ... France/Germany/Russia are 75-85%

    That will be the robot crawlers then

    <https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html>
    --
    Any fool can believe in principles - and most of them do!



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  • From Nick Finnigan@nix@genie.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Fri Sep 25 12:02:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 25/09/2026 09:40, Andy Burns wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    how many people have ipv6 enabled?

    Google show that globally around 45-50% of traffic reaching them is on
    IPv6, slightly above that in the UK ... France/Germany/Russia are 75-85%

    <https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html>

    Noticably higher at weekends. My work IP is v4 only but home has both,
    with a more accurate location shown for the v6 addresses.
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  • From John R Walliker@jrwalliker@gmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Sep 25 12:12:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 25/09/2026 12:02, Nick Finnigan wrote:
    On 25/09/2026 09:40, Andy Burns wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    how many people have ipv6 enabled?

    Google show that globally around 45-50% of traffic reaching them is on
    IPv6, slightly above that in the UK ... France/Germany/Russia are 75-85%

    <https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html>

    -aNoticably higher at weekends.-a My work IP is v4 only but home has
    both, with a more accurate location shown for the v6 addresses.

    Some of the largest internet providers such as BT / EE have been
    providing IPv6 by default for years. 4G and 5G mobile connections
    usually have IPv6 by default.
    The big exception is Virgin Media.
    If you can access the simple game loopsofzen.co.uk you have
    working IPv6.
    John

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  • From Jethro@jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Sep 25 11:20:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 20:44:59 +0100, Pancho wrote:

    On 9/24/26 18:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    You can buy a static IP for about an extra -u5 a month. I'm not sure how necessary it is. I suspect everything is workable, with IPv6. Maybe even better. VoIP SIP/RTP appears to work with CGNAT, but the phone hasn't
    been used much.

    I'm using a cloudflare tunnel into my HomeAssitant box. It removes my IP address from having to be published.
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Fri Sep 25 12:25:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    John R Walliker wrote:

    If you can access the simple game loopsofzen.co.uk you have
    working IPv6.

    I only get that (and the dancing turtle) wen using firefox freebie VPN
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  • From Fredxx@fredxx@spam.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Fri Sep 25 13:36:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 23/09/2026 14:29, Jethro wrote:
    After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres
    offer was too good to beat.

    Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving -u65/month over Virgin.

    Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
    installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
    pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m required.

    Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
    doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.

    All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
    the house) were discounted as "health and safety".

    If you have a list of suppliers in preferred order, go for the next one.

    You might eventually find an Openreach (assuming it is them) to turn a
    blind eye to the height.

    Perhaps their statistics of lost orders might cause the pole to be raised?


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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Fri Sep 25 13:50:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Fredxx wrote:

    Jethro wrote:

    Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
    installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
    pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
    required.

    Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
    doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.

    All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
    the house) were discounted as "health and safety".

    If you have a list of suppliers in preferred order, go for the next one.

    You might eventually find an Openreach (assuming it is them) to turn a
    blind eye to the height.

    youfibre seem to piggy-back on netomnia, so I'd assume you'll get the
    same answer from any reseller. Presumably the marketing database only
    works on postcode areas, but the engineers work down to actual premises
    level?

    Perhaps their statistics of lost orders might cause the pole to be raised?

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  • From Jethro@jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Sep 25 16:20:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Fri, 25 Sep 2026 13:36:09 +0100, Fredxx wrote:

    On 23/09/2026 14:29, Jethro wrote:
    After too many sales calls to count, we finally decided that YouFibres
    offer was too good to beat.

    Started the OneTouch switch process. Looking forward to saving
    -u65/month over Virgin.

    Installation engineer has just been and said unless a new pole is
    installed on our side of the road we can whistle as the height from the
    pole they did fit (the other side of the road) is under the 5.5m
    required.

    Obviously it's left me a little browned off. A quick grep of the bumf
    doesn't reveal a weasel "survey" anywhere.

    All potential DIY solutions (i.e a sodding great 6m pole on the side of
    the house) were discounted as "health and safety".

    If you have a list of suppliers in preferred order, go for the next one.

    You might eventually find an Openreach (assuming it is them) to turn a
    blind eye to the height.

    Perhaps their statistics of lost orders might cause the pole to be
    raised?

    uSwitch say there are 2 games in my town. YouFibre and Virgin.

    As the post below notes, it's Netomania who deal with the engineering
    here.

    I received a final "Why don't you fuck off" reply today, following the
    failed site survey that wasn't part of the plan (even their T&Cs don't
    mention subject to survey). So things are in hand.
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  • From Marco Moock@mm@dorfdsl.de to uk.d-i-y on Sat Sep 26 11:45:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Am 25.09.26 um 10:04 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:

    how many people have ipv6 enabled?
    The vast majority.

    Android, Apple iOS, macOS, Windows and Linux have it enabled by default
    and there is no reason to disable it.

    Various large ISPs provide IPv6 to the customers and their routers have
    it enabled by default too, so they will use it if the ISP provides it.

    APNIC provides statistics:
    https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6

    You can clearly see when a large ISP enabled IPv6 for the customers, as
    the usage is increasing fast during that process.
    --
    Gru|f
    Marco

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  • From Marco Moock@mm@dorfdsl.de to uk.d-i-y on Sat Sep 26 11:48:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Am 25.09.26 um 13:25 schrieb Andy Burns:
    John R Walliker wrote:

    If you can access the simple game loopsofzen.co.uk you have
    working IPv6.

    I only get that (and the dancing turtle) wen using firefox freebie VPN

    That means that your regular internet connection does not support IPv6.
    Check your ISP and router settings if the ISP offers it.
    --
    Gru|f
    Marco

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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sat Sep 26 10:55:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Marco Moock wrote:

    Am 25.09.26 um 13:25 schrieb Andy Burns:
    John R Walliker wrote:

    If you can access the simple game loopsofzen.co.uk you have
    working IPv6.

    I only get that (and the dancing turtle) wen using firefox freebie VPN

    That means that your regular internet connection does not support IPv6. Check your ISP and router settings if the ISP offers it.
    Oh I know what it means, they're on their second "trial" but no sign of
    a roll-out, think they've been trying for a decade ...

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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Sep 26 19:28:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 26/09/2026 10:45, Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 25.09.26 um 10:04 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:

    how many people have ipv6 enabled?
    The vast majority.

    Android, Apple iOS, macOS, Windows and Linux have it enabled by default
    and there is no reason to disable it.

    Various large ISPs provide IPv6 to the customers and their routers have
    it enabled by default too, so they will use it if the ISP provides it.

    APNIC provides statistics:
    https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6

    You can clearly see when a large ISP enabled IPv6 for the customers, as
    the usage is increasing fast during that process.

    "Large ISPs".

    Plusnet evidently doesn't qualify as a large ISP.
    It is owned by BT, and uses BT's network, but it does not support IPv6.
    There have been talking about 'trials' for as long as I can remember, so
    I expect to see commercially viable fusion power first.
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Jethro@jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Sep 27 16:13:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Sun, 27 Sep 2026 10:51:52 +0000, Richard Tobin wrote:

    In article <1198483$dpvl$1@solani.org>, Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de>
    wrote:
    APNIC provides statistics: https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6

    Google has a graph showing the proporition of users connecting to them
    by IPv6:

    https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=ipv6-adoption

    It's very noticable that (relative) IPv6 usage is higher when people are
    not at work: weekends, Christmas, and a huge jump at the beginning of
    covid lockdowns.

    I suspect this is mostly due to IPv6 on mobile phones, rather than home internet connections.

    -- Richard

    Coupled with a lot of workplaces not using or actively disabling IPv6
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