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We've got to change the consumer unit we've got as its old and we needs
extra ways etc. The new CU needs moving a few feet from the original
one.

Now i know that TLC electrical market a "wiska" box but that isn't ideal
for the number of cables and the size of them. Is it against Kings regs
to get a plastic or metal box cut some slots or get some cable grommets
or glands or similar and just form them out inside and crimp them with
the right sized crimps and proper crimp pliers?.

Anyone else done that at all, or know if it is or isn't permitted?.

Thanks in advance..
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Tony Sayer


Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.


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On 22/09/2026 23:42, tony sayer wrote:

We've got to change the consumer unit we've got as its old and we needs
extra ways etc. The new CU needs moving a few feet from the original
one.

Now i know that TLC electrical market a "wiska" box but that isn't ideal
for the number of cables and the size of them. Is it against Kings regs
to get a plastic or metal box cut some slots or get some cable grommets
or glands or similar and just form them out inside and crimp them with
the right sized crimps and proper crimp pliers?.

Anyone else done that at all, or know if it is or isn't permitted?.

Usual rules for junction boxes apply - so as long as you have a secure
join, and adequate insulation and enclosure, then arguable anything
within reason goes.

For elegance and order, I would suggest a small metal clad box with din
rail inside, and a row of din rail mounted terminals. You can get Wago
style ones, which make for quick and maintenance free joins.

You can also get (or could 3D print) clips for mounting sets of 3 wago
221 connectors stacked vertically, such that they will clip to a DIN rail.

e.g.

https://www.printables.com/search/models?q=wago+din+rail
--
Cheers,

John.

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John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:

On 22/09/2026 23:42, tony sayer wrote:

We've got to change the consumer unit we've got as its old and we needs
extra ways etc. The new CU needs moving a few feet from the original
one.

Now i know that TLC electrical market a "wiska" box but that isn't ideal
for the number of cables and the size of them. Is it against Kings regs
to get a plastic or metal box cut some slots or get some cable grommets
or glands or similar and just form them out inside and crimp them with
the right sized crimps and proper crimp pliers?.

Anyone else done that at all, or know if it is or isn't permitted?.

Usual rules for junction boxes apply - so as long as you have a secure
join, and adequate insulation and enclosure, then arguable anything
within reason goes.

For elegance and order, I would suggest a small metal clad box with din
rail inside, and a row of din rail mounted terminals. You can get Wago
style ones, which make for quick and maintenance free joins.

You can also get (or could 3D print) clips for mounting sets of 3 wago
221 connectors stacked vertically, such that they will clip to a DIN rail.

e.g.

https://www.printables.com/search/models?q=wago+din+rail

+1 for The DIN rail mounted Wagos

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tony sayer wrote:

We've got to change the consumer unit we've got as its old and we needs
extra ways etc. The new CU needs moving a few feet from the original
one.

Now i know that TLC electrical market a "wiska" box but that isn't ideal
for the number of cables and the size of them. Is it against Kings regs
to get a plastic or metal box cut some slots or get some cable grommets
or glands or similar and just form them out inside and crimp them with
the right sized crimps and proper crimp pliers?.

Anyone else done that at all, or know if it is or isn't permitted?.

Thanks in advance..

Alternatively, can you get under the floor near the CU to use a Wagobox
(or 2) to extend the cables?
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Tricky Dicky wrote:

John Rumm wrote:

For elegance and order, I would suggest a small metal clad box with din
rail inside, and a row of din rail mounted terminals. You can get Wago
style ones, which make for quick and maintenance free joins.

You can also get (or could 3D print) clips for mounting sets of 3 wago
221 connectors stacked vertically, such that they will clip to a DIN rail. >>
https://www.printables.com/search/models?q=wago+din+rail

+1 for The DIN rail mounted Wagos

I don't think I'd be tempted to print my own wago holders, rather use commercial ones that will have proper fire rating ...

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On 23/09/2026 11:09, Andy Burns wrote:

Tricky Dicky wrote:

John Rumm wrote:

For elegance and order, I would suggest a small metal clad box with din
rail inside, and a row of din rail mounted terminals. You can get Wago
style ones, which make for quick and maintenance free joins.

You can also get (or could 3D print) clips for mounting sets of 3 wago
221 connectors stacked vertically, such that they will clip to a DIN
rail.

https://www.printables.com/search/models?q=wago+din+rail

+1 for The DIN rail mounted Wagos

I don't think I'd be tempted to print my own wago holders, rather use commercial ones that will have proper fire rating ...

Well if you can 3D print ones out of the same material, like ABS, its
isn't an issue unless you have some regulatory authority breathing down
your neck.

It is, as usual the difference between being fireproof, and having a bit
of paper that says so (even if it lies)...

AS an aside once you have a 3D printer and have learnt to design in 3D
its amazing what you can do. I got sent some RAACO cabinets without
drawer dividers. Hardly the most complex thing to design and way cheaper
than ordering the correct parts. OK they are not transparent
polystyrene, but who cares?

I made containers for the daily pills, and tools and so on. These are
again simple designs.
The cost for the machine was steep. But the material is fairly cheap...
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and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them. Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, onerCOs agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of onerCOs suitability to be taken seriously.rCY

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In article <118vboc$1c5p9$1@dont-email.me>, John Rumm <see.my.signature@ nowhere.null> scribeth thus

On 22/09/2026 23:42, tony sayer wrote:

We've got to change the consumer unit we've got as its old and we needs
extra ways etc. The new CU needs moving a few feet from the original
one.

Now i know that TLC electrical market a "wiska" box but that isn't ideal
for the number of cables and the size of them. Is it against Kings regs
to get a plastic or metal box cut some slots or get some cable grommets
or glands or similar and just form them out inside and crimp them with
the right sized crimps and proper crimp pliers?.

Anyone else done that at all, or know if it is or isn't permitted?.

Usual rules for junction boxes apply - so as long as you have a secure
join, and adequate insulation and enclosure, then arguable anything
within reason goes.

For elegance and order, I would suggest a small metal clad box with din
rail inside, and a row of din rail mounted terminals. You can get Wago
style ones, which make for quick and maintenance free joins.

You can also get (or could 3D print) clips for mounting sets of 3 wago
221 connectors stacked vertically, such that they will clip to a DIN rail.

e.g.

https://www.printables.com/search/models?q=wago+din+rail

Thanks for that John. I think a metal enclose and DIN rail, got a lot of
that around, and some WAGO connectors and sorted:-)

Haven't got one of they new fangled printing presses as yet!..
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Tony Sayer


Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.


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In article <nhhh3gFeivqU1@mid.individual.net>, Sparky <"somewhere else"@gmail.com> scribeth thus

tony sayer wrote:

We've got to change the consumer unit we've got as its old and we needs
extra ways etc. The new CU needs moving a few feet from the original
one.

Now i know that TLC electrical market a "wiska" box but that isn't ideal
for the number of cables and the size of them. Is it against Kings regs
to get a plastic or metal box cut some slots or get some cable grommets
or glands or similar and just form them out inside and crimp them with
the right sized crimps and proper crimp pliers?.

Anyone else done that at all, or know if it is or isn't permitted?.

Thanks in advance..

Alternatively, can you get under the floor near the CU to use a Wagobox
(or 2) to extend the cables?

Nope, this is around 5 foot up on a wall!..

Bit of an odd arrangement not a wooden floor but concrete..
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Tony Sayer


Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.


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On 23/09/2026 11:09, Andy Burns wrote:

Tricky Dicky wrote:

John Rumm wrote:

For elegance and order, I would suggest a small metal clad box with din
rail inside, and a row of din rail mounted terminals. You can get Wago
style ones, which make for quick and maintenance free joins.

You can also get (or could 3D print) clips for mounting sets of 3 wago
221 connectors stacked vertically, such that they will clip to a DIN
rail.

https://www.printables.com/search/models?q=wago+din+rail

+1 for The DIN rail mounted Wagos

I don't think I'd be tempted to print my own wago holders, rather use commercial ones that will have proper fire rating ...

The fire rating mostly comes from the metal box.
--
Cheers,

John.

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On 22/09/2026 23:42, tony sayer wrote:

We've got to change the consumer unit we've got as its old and we needs
extra ways etc. The new CU needs moving a few feet from the original
one.

Now i know that TLC electrical market a "wiska" box but that isn't ideal
for the number of cables and the size of them. Is it against Kings regs
to get a plastic or metal box cut some slots or get some cable grommets
or glands or similar and just form them out inside and crimp them with
the right sized crimps and proper crimp pliers?.

Anyone else done that at all, or know if it is or isn't permitted?.

Thanks in advance..

Could you just use the old CU case as the enclosure for the connectors ?
Its in the right location with the "out" cables already in position

Thats what was done in my last house by a previous owner and it passed
the EICR more than once. But that was about 10 years ago.
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In article <nhqmdgFsjfcU1@mid.individual.net>, Rob <invalid@invalid.net> scribeth thus

On 22/09/2026 23:42, tony sayer wrote:

We've got to change the consumer unit we've got as its old and we needs
extra ways etc. The new CU needs moving a few feet from the original
one.

Now i know that TLC electrical market a "wiska" box but that isn't ideal
for the number of cables and the size of them. Is it against Kings regs
to get a plastic or metal box cut some slots or get some cable grommets
or glands or similar and just form them out inside and crimp them with
the right sized crimps and proper crimp pliers?.

Anyone else done that at all, or know if it is or isn't permitted?.

Thanks in advance..

Could you just use the old CU case as the enclosure for the connectors ?
Its in the right location with the "out" cables already in position

Thats what was done in my last house by a previous owner and it passed
the EICR more than once. But that was about 10 years ago.

Its an old wooden one and has been damp for a while so no!

I've got a metal box that will suffice but good idea anyway..
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Tony Sayer


Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.


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