I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have been damaged
in transit. Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked out) or know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another TV but this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, about 10 years old.
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have been
damaged in transit. Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked out) or >> know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another TV but >> this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, about 10 >> years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner. The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces
(typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED). The crack has broken the traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above in this case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV with the identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair. I'm afraid it's new TV time.
Theo
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have been damaged in transit. Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked out) or know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another TV but this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, about 10 years old.
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have been
damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked
out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another
TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV,
about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner.-a The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces
(typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the
periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has
broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above in this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV with
the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm afraid
it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have 100%
hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you want to
find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have been damaged
in transit. Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked out) or
know if it's easy to repair?
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have been
damaged in transit. Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked out) or >> know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another TV but >> this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, about 10 >> years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner. The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces
(typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED). The crack has broken the traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above in this case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV with the identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair. I'm afraid it's new TV time.
On 19 Sep 2026 at 12:38:49 BST, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have been
damaged in transit. Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked out) or >>> know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another TV but >>> this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, about 10 >>> years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner. The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces
(typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the
periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED). The crack has broken the >> traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above in this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV with the >> identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair. I'm afraid it's >> new TV time.
Many thanks for the replies - good to know, save wasting too much time on it.
Shame, it was a good telly, excellent UI and a really good picture. Previous owner discarded it as it could no longer do Netflix etc. I tried to persuade him to get a firestick etc, but he wouldn't have it and bought a new OLED.
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have been damaged
in transit. Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked out) or know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another TV but this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, about 10 years old.
TIA
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have been >>>> damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic here: >>>>
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked
out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another
TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV,
about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner.-a The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces
(typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the
periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has
broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above in this >>> case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV with
the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm afraid
it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have 100%
hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you want to
find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an uncertain
result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad slingers that modern TVs have become.
John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have been >>>>> damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic here: >>>>>
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked
out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another
TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV,
about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner.-a The >>>> panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces
(typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the
periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has
broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above in this >>>> case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV with >>>> the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm afraid >>>> it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have 100% >>> hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you want to
find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an uncertain
result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad slingers
that modern TVs have become.
We have a newish LG TV. If we want to watch any of the LG channels, we basically have to sacrifice our first born child.
So far IrCOve resisted but itrCOs a PITA if you press the wrong button and have
to jump through a few hoops to avoid it.
On 20/09/2026 19:56, Tim+ wrote:
John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have been >>>>>> damaged in transit. Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic here: >>>>>>
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked >>>>>> out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another >>>>>> TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV,
about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner. The >>>>> panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces
(typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the >>>>> periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED). The crack has
broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above in this >>>>> case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV with >>>>> the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair. I'm afraid >>>>> it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have 100% >>>> hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you want to >>>> find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an uncertain >>>> result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad slingers >>> that modern TVs have become.
We have a newish LG TV. If we want to watch any of the LG channels, we
basically have to sacrifice our first born child.
So far IrCOve resisted but itrCOs a PITA if you press the wrong button and have
to jump through a few hoops to avoid it.
While not solely a LG problem, they do seem to be leading the pack in surveillance capitalism...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IFVTcM28KA
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have been >>>> damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic here: >>>>
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked
out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another
TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV,
about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner.-a The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces
(typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the
periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has
broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above in this >>> case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV
with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm afraid
it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have
100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you want to
find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an
uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad slingers that modern TVs have become.
On 19/09/2026 17:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have been >>>>> damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic here: >>>>>
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked
out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another
TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV,
about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner.-a The >>>> panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces
(typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the
periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has
broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above in this >>>> case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV
with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm afraid >>>> it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have
100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you want to
find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an
uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad slingers
that modern TVs have become.
Not if you don't connect the tv to the internet.
Yeah I know I'm old fashioned. If I want to watch something that's not
on Freeview I plug in a cheap Roku & remove it when I'm finished.
On 20 Sep 2026 at 21:05:01 BST, John Rumm wrote:
On 20/09/2026 19:56, Tim+ wrote:
John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have been >>>>>>> damaged in transit. Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic here: >>>>>>>
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA >>>>>>>
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked >>>>>>> out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another >>>>>>> TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, >>>>>>> about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner. The >>>>>> panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces >>>>>> (typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the >>>>>> periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED). The crack has
broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above in this >>>>>> case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV with >>>>>> the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair. I'm afraid >>>>>> it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have 100% >>>>> hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you want to >>>>> find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an uncertain >>>>> result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad slingers >>>> that modern TVs have become.
We have a newish LG TV. If we want to watch any of the LG channels, we
basically have to sacrifice our first born child.
So far IrCOve resisted but itrCOs a PITA if you press the wrong button and have
to jump through a few hoops to avoid it.
While not solely a LG problem, they do seem to be leading the pack in
surveillance capitalism...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IFVTcM28KA
I did look into this a few years ago, and then they were amongst the best, privacy wise. That video suggests not any longer. And how they can hire a convicted scammer as head of advertising is, well . . .
I've got all (that I can see) of the snooping and microphone settings off on my 3 year old LG. On the LG channels I get very few ads - usually for Arab
banks or expensive cars. The rest of the time it's an LG or scenic screensaver. But I've no idea what if anything they mine from me. I've not noticed anything from the email I set up to register.
Seems they've cut their hardware margins so far that the best money is now made in data mining and ads.
The only way to protect privacy is with a
non-smart TV or a computer monitor.
Mid-term capitalism, what's not to like ;-)"Commercial" TVs are still and option - they will let you knobble the telemetry (although whether they are secure against attacks is another matter). As would be large format monitor with a media PC or some other source. The price difference between those and a smart TV show how much
On 21/09/2026 09:21, wasbit wrote:
On 19/09/2026 17:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have >>>>>> been
damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic >>>>>> here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked >>>>>> out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another >>>>>> TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV,
about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner.-a The >>>>> panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces
(typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the >>>>> periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has
broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above in >>>>> this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV
with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm afraid >>>>> it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have
100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you want to >>>> find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an
uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad slingers >>> that modern TVs have become.
Not if you don't connect the tv to the internet.
Of course, and that's why there is pressure to turn off OTA broadcasts.
When everything has to be streamed, you'll need to be connected to the internet if you want to watch TV. Then you're at the mercy of the data collectors and advertisers.
Yeah I know I'm old fashioned. If I want to watch something that's not
on Freeview I plug in a cheap Roku & remove it when I'm finished.
And what else might the Roku stick be doing while you're watching TV and it's connected to the internet?
On 21/09/2026 09:56, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:21, wasbit wrote:
On 19/09/2026 17:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have >>>>>>> been
damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic >>>>>>> here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA >>>>>>>
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked >>>>>>> out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another >>>>>>> TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, >>>>>>> about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner.-a The >>>>>> panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces >>>>>> (typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the >>>>>> periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has
broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above in >>>>>> this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV
with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm afraid >>>>>> it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have
100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you want to >>>>> find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an
uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad slingers >>>> that modern TVs have become.
Not if you don't connect the tv to the internet.
Of course, and that's why there is pressure to turn off OTA broadcasts.
When everything has to be streamed, you'll need to be connected to the
internet if you want to watch TV. Then you're at the mercy of the data
collectors and advertisers.
Yeah I know I'm old fashioned. If I want to watch something that's not
on Freeview I plug in a cheap Roku & remove it when I'm finished.
And what else might the Roku stick be doing while you're watching TV and
it's connected to the internet?
Some smart TVs will already probe for open access wifi points they can
reach even if you don't provide the connection yourself. Wonder how long before they come with a cellular modem installed?
On 21/09/2026 09:21, wasbit wrote:
On 19/09/2026 17:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have >>>>>> been
damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic >>>>>> here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked >>>>>> out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another >>>>>> TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV,
about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner.-a The >>>>> panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces
(typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the >>>>> periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has
broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above in >>>>> this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV
with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm afraid >>>>> it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have
100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you want to >>>> find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an
uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad slingers >>> that modern TVs have become.
Not if you don't connect the tv to the internet.
Of course, and that's why there is pressure to turn off OTA broadcasts.
When everything has to be streamed, you'll need to be connected to the internet if you want to watch TV. Then you're at the mercy of the data collectors and advertisers.
Yeah I know I'm old fashioned. If I want to watch something that's not
on Freeview I plug in a cheap Roku & remove it when I'm finished.
And what else might the Roku stick be doing while you're watching TV and it's connected to the internet?
On 2026-09-22, John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:56, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:21, wasbit wrote:
On 19/09/2026 17:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have >>>>>>>> been
damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic >>>>>>>> here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA >>>>>>>>
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked >>>>>>>> out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another >>>>>>>> TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, >>>>>>>> about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner.-a The >>>>>>> panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces >>>>>>> (typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the >>>>>>> periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has >>>>>>> broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above in >>>>>>> this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV >>>>>>> with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm afraid >>>>>>> it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have >>>>>> 100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you want to >>>>>> find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an
uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad slingers >>>>> that modern TVs have become.
Not if you don't connect the tv to the internet.
Of course, and that's why there is pressure to turn off OTA broadcasts.
When everything has to be streamed, you'll need to be connected to the
internet if you want to watch TV. Then you're at the mercy of the data
collectors and advertisers.
Yeah I know I'm old fashioned. If I want to watch something that's not >>>> on Freeview I plug in a cheap Roku & remove it when I'm finished.
And what else might the Roku stick be doing while you're watching TV and >>> it's connected to the internet?
Some smart TVs will already probe for open access wifi points they can
reach even if you don't provide the connection yourself. Wonder how long
before they come with a cellular modem installed?
https://xkcd.com/416/
On 21/09/2026 09:56, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:21, wasbit wrote:
On 19/09/2026 17:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have >>>>>>> been
damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic >>>>>>> here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA >>>>>>>
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked >>>>>>> out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another >>>>>>> TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, >>>>>>> about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner. >>>>>> The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces >>>>>> (typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the >>>>>> periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has
broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above
in this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV
with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm afraid >>>>>> it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have
100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you want to >>>>> find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an
uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad
slingers
that modern TVs have become.
Not if you don't connect the tv to the internet.
Of course, and that's why there is pressure to turn off OTA
broadcasts. When everything has to be streamed, you'll need to be
connected to the internet if you want to watch TV. Then you're at the
mercy of the data collectors and advertisers.
Yeah I know I'm old fashioned. If I want to watch something that's not
on Freeview I plug in a cheap Roku & remove it when I'm finished.
And what else might the Roku stick be doing while you're watching TV
and it's connected to the internet?
Dunno, but all the information I input is fictitious apart from a
working email address kept for such occasions.
On 9/22/26 08:31, Ian wrote:
On 2026-09-22, John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:56, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:21, wasbit wrote:
On 19/09/2026 17:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have >>>>>>>>> been
damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic >>>>>>>>> here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA >>>>>>>>>
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked >>>>>>>>> out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another >>>>>>>>> TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, >>>>>>>>> about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner.-a The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces >>>>>>>> (typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around the >>>>>>>> periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has >>>>>>>> broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above in >>>>>>>> this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV >>>>>>>> with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm afraid >>>>>>>> it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have >>>>>>> 100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you want to >>>>>>> find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an
uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad slingers >>>>>> that modern TVs have become.
Not if you don't connect the tv to the internet.
Of course, and that's why there is pressure to turn off OTA broadcasts. >>>> When everything has to be streamed, you'll need to be connected to the >>>> internet if you want to watch TV. Then you're at the mercy of the data >>>> collectors and advertisers.
Yeah I know I'm old fashioned. If I want to watch something that's not >>>>> on Freeview I plug in a cheap Roku & remove it when I'm finished.
And what else might the Roku stick be doing while you're watching TV and >>>> it's connected to the internet?
Some smart TVs will already probe for open access wifi points they can
reach even if you don't provide the connection yourself. Wonder how long >>> before they come with a cellular modem installed?
https://xkcd.com/416/
This thread prompted me to play with my Smart TV features, which because
I use it as a dumb monitor for an orange pi5, I'd never looked at before.
I found a quick start option (5 seconds) as opposed to the normal 43
second boot time, result!
On 22/09/2026 09:36, wasbit wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:56, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:21, wasbit wrote:
On 19/09/2026 17:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to
have been
damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic >>>>>>>> here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA >>>>>>>>
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked >>>>>>>> out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another >>>>>>>> TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, >>>>>>>> about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left corner. >>>>>>> The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces >>>>>>> (typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers around >>>>>>> the
periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has >>>>>>> broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above >>>>>>> in this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV >>>>>>> with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm >>>>>>> afraid
it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have >>>>>> 100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you
want to
find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an
uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad
slingers
that modern TVs have become.
Not if you don't connect the tv to the internet.
Of course, and that's why there is pressure to turn off OTA
broadcasts. When everything has to be streamed, you'll need to be
connected to the internet if you want to watch TV. Then you're at the
mercy of the data collectors and advertisers.
Yeah I know I'm old fashioned. If I want to watch something that's not >>>> on Freeview I plug in a cheap Roku & remove it when I'm finished.
And what else might the Roku stick be doing while you're watching TV
and it's connected to the internet?
Dunno, but all the information I input is fictitious apart from a
working email address kept for such occasions.
The stuff you enter is not what they are interested in... what appears
on your screen (regardless of source), and a list of all the other
devices on your network would be of more value.
On 22/09/2026 09:55, Pancho wrote:
On 9/22/26 08:31, Ian wrote:
On 2026-09-22, John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:56, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:21, wasbit wrote:
On 19/09/2026 17:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have >>>>>>>>>> been
damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic >>>>>>>>>> here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA >>>>>>>>>>
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen >>>>>>>>>> blacked
out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in >>>>>>>>>> another
TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, >>>>>>>>>> about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left
corner.-a The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces >>>>>>>>> (typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers
around the
periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has >>>>>>>>> broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically
above in
this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV >>>>>>>>> with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm >>>>>>>>> afraid
it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have >>>>>>>> 100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you >>>>>>>> want to
find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an
uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad >>>>>>> slingers
that modern TVs have become.
Not if you don't connect the tv to the internet.
Of course, and that's why there is pressure to turn off OTA
broadcasts.
When everything has to be streamed, you'll need to be connected to the >>>>> internet if you want to watch TV. Then you're at the mercy of the data >>>>> collectors and advertisers.
Yeah I know I'm old fashioned. If I want to watch something that's >>>>>> not
on Freeview I plug in a cheap Roku & remove it when I'm finished.
And what else might the Roku stick be doing while you're watching
TV and
it's connected to the internet?
Some smart TVs will already probe for open access wifi points they can >>>> reach even if you don't provide the connection yourself. Wonder how
long
before they come with a cellular modem installed?
https://xkcd.com/416/
This thread prompted me to play with my Smart TV features, which because
I use it as a dumb monitor for an orange pi5, I'd never looked at before.
I found a quick start option (5 seconds) as opposed to the normal 43
second boot time, result!
You will probably find that the "standby" condition it's now in with the shorter boot time will mean that the standby power consumption is considerably higher than it was.
TVs can have several different standby conditions, depending on how
they're set up. This can include changes made elsewhere, e.g. to an
"eco" mode, and/or whether or not external equipment is connected (via
HDMI) and the TV or other equipment is the "master" and set to turn the
TV or other equipment on as well.
Mind you, good luck trying to find the actual consumption figures in all these different states!
On 22/09/2026 15:20, John Rumm wrote:
On 22/09/2026 09:36, wasbit wrote:What mostly appears on the screen of our TV is dust.
On 21/09/2026 09:56, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:21, wasbit wrote:
On 19/09/2026 17:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to >>>>>>>>> have been
damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - >>>>>>>>> pic here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA >>>>>>>>>
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked >>>>>>>>> out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in >>>>>>>>> another
TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, >>>>>>>>> about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left
corner. The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces >>>>>>>> (typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers
around the
periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has >>>>>>>> broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above >>>>>>>> in this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV >>>>>>>> with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm >>>>>>>> afraid
it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have >>>>>>> 100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you
want to
find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an
uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad
slingers
that modern TVs have become.
Not if you don't connect the tv to the internet.
Of course, and that's why there is pressure to turn off OTA
broadcasts. When everything has to be streamed, you'll need to be
connected to the internet if you want to watch TV. Then you're at
the mercy of the data collectors and advertisers.
Yeah I know I'm old fashioned. If I want to watch something that's not >>>>> on Freeview I plug in a cheap Roku & remove it when I'm finished.
And what else might the Roku stick be doing while you're watching TV
and it's connected to the internet?
Dunno, but all the information I input is fictitious apart from a
working email address kept for such occasions.
The stuff you enter is not what they are interested in... what appears
on your screen (regardless of source), and a list of all the other
devices on your network would be of more value.
Not too sure how they could monetise that, but LG are welcome to try.
don't know how it uses 0 watts, when idle. The Orange Pi seems to use 5 watts all the time.
On 9/22/26 16:20, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 22/09/2026 09:55, Pancho wrote:
On 9/22/26 08:31, Ian wrote:
On 2026-09-22, John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:56, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:21, wasbit wrote:
On 19/09/2026 17:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have >>>>>>>>>>> been
damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic >>>>>>>>>>> here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA >>>>>>>>>>>
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen >>>>>>>>>>> blacked
out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in >>>>>>>>>>> another
TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, >>>>>>>>>>> about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left
corner.-a The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces >>>>>>>>>> (typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers >>>>>>>>>> around the
periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has >>>>>>>>>> broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically >>>>>>>>>> above in
this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV >>>>>>>>>> with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm >>>>>>>>>> afraid
it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have >>>>>>>>> 100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you >>>>>>>>> want to
find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an >>>>>>>>> uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad >>>>>>>> slingers
that modern TVs have become.
Not if you don't connect the tv to the internet.
Of course, and that's why there is pressure to turn off OTA
broadcasts.
When everything has to be streamed, you'll need to be connected to the >>>>>> internet if you want to watch TV. Then you're at the mercy of the data >>>>>> collectors and advertisers.
Yeah I know I'm old fashioned. If I want to watch something that's >>>>>>> notAnd what else might the Roku stick be doing while you're watching
on Freeview I plug in a cheap Roku & remove it when I'm finished. >>>>>>
TV and
it's connected to the internet?
Some smart TVs will already probe for open access wifi points they can >>>>> reach even if you don't provide the connection yourself. Wonder how
long
before they come with a cellular modem installed?
https://xkcd.com/416/
This thread prompted me to play with my Smart TV features, which because >>> I use it as a dumb monitor for an orange pi5, I'd never looked at before. >>>
I found a quick start option (5 seconds) as opposed to the normal 43
second boot time, result!
You will probably find that the "standby" condition it's now in with the
shorter boot time will mean that the standby power consumption is
considerably higher than it was.
TVs can have several different standby conditions, depending on how
they're set up. This can include changes made elsewhere, e.g. to an
"eco" mode, and/or whether or not external equipment is connected (via
HDMI) and the TV or other equipment is the "master" and set to turn the
TV or other equipment on as well.
Mind you, good luck trying to find the actual consumption figures in all
these different states!
Being an anal twat, My TV is attached to a smart plug with a power
meter, all logged to Domoticz.
Power usage when off logs as 0 watts, both before I changed to quick
start and after. It is 43 watts when on, most impressive for 55 inch.
Power consumption improved from my earlier LCD TV and monitors.
I don't know how it uses 0 watts, when idle. The Orange Pi seems to use
5 watts all the time.
On 22/09/2026 18:58, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 22/09/2026 15:20, John Rumm wrote:
On 22/09/2026 09:36, wasbit wrote:What mostly appears on the screen of our TV is dust.
On 21/09/2026 09:56, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:21, wasbit wrote:
On 19/09/2026 17:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to >>>>>>>>>> have been
damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - >>>>>>>>>> pic here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA >>>>>>>>>>
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked >>>>>>>>>> out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in >>>>>>>>>> another
TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, >>>>>>>>>> about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left
corner. The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive traces >>>>>>>>> (typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers
around the
periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has >>>>>>>>> broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above >>>>>>>>> in this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV >>>>>>>>> with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm >>>>>>>>> afraid
it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you have >>>>>>>> 100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you >>>>>>>> want to
find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an
uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad
slingers
that modern TVs have become.
Not if you don't connect the tv to the internet.
Of course, and that's why there is pressure to turn off OTA
broadcasts. When everything has to be streamed, you'll need to be
connected to the internet if you want to watch TV. Then you're at
the mercy of the data collectors and advertisers.
Yeah I know I'm old fashioned. If I want to watch something that's not >>>>>> on Freeview I plug in a cheap Roku & remove it when I'm finished.
And what else might the Roku stick be doing while you're watching TV >>>>> and it's connected to the internet?
Dunno, but all the information I input is fictitious apart from a
working email address kept for such occasions.
The stuff you enter is not what they are interested in... what appears
on your screen (regardless of source), and a list of all the other
devices on your network would be of more value.
Not too sure how they could monetise that, but LG are welcome to try.
They build profiles of what you watch and look at, then sell that to advertisers looking for a demographic that matches the profile. By
snooping on the network they can identify other devices that might be
able to be targeted with ads, as well as get a better profile based on
the quantity and type of devices found. (bit like Uber in the states
will quote higher prices if you have an expensive phone, your battery is getting low, or it is raining where you are).
On 23/09/2026 03:05, John Rumm wrote:
On 22/09/2026 18:58, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 22/09/2026 15:20, John Rumm wrote:
On 22/09/2026 09:36, wasbit wrote:What mostly appears on the screen of our TV is dust.
On 21/09/2026 09:56, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:21, wasbit wrote:
On 19/09/2026 17:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to >>>>>>>>>>> have been
damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - >>>>>>>>>>> pic here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA >>>>>>>>>>>
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen >>>>>>>>>>> blacked
out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in >>>>>>>>>>> another
TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung >>>>>>>>>>> TV,
about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left
corner. The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive >>>>>>>>>> traces
(typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers >>>>>>>>>> around the
periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has >>>>>>>>>> broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above >>>>>>>>>> in this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a donor TV >>>>>>>>>> with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm >>>>>>>>>> afraid
it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you >>>>>>>>> have
100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you >>>>>>>>> want to
find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an >>>>>>>>> uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad >>>>>>>> slingers
that modern TVs have become.
Not if you don't connect the tv to the internet.
Of course, and that's why there is pressure to turn off OTA
broadcasts. When everything has to be streamed, you'll need to be
connected to the internet if you want to watch TV. Then you're at
the mercy of the data collectors and advertisers.
Yeah I know I'm old fashioned. If I want to watch somethingAnd what else might the Roku stick be doing while you're watching TV >>>>>> and it's connected to the internet?
that's not
on Freeview I plug in a cheap Roku & remove it when I'm finished. >>>>>>
Dunno, but all the information I input is fictitious apart from a
working email address kept for such occasions.
The stuff you enter is not what they are interested in... what appears >>>> on your screen (regardless of source), and a list of all the other
devices on your network would be of more value.
Not too sure how they could monetise that, but LG are welcome to try.
They build profiles of what you watch and look at, then sell that to
advertisers looking for a demographic that matches the profile. By
snooping on the network they can identify other devices that might be
able to be targeted with ads, as well as get a better profile based on
the quantity and type of devices found. (bit like Uber in the states
will quote higher prices if you have an expensive phone, your battery is
getting low, or it is raining where you are).
On Channel 5 tonight at 1900:
"The secrets of your phone:
They don't want you to know"
"Alexis Conran explores the claims that smartphones and tech companies
are listening in on their users and collecting a vast amount of personal data."
I guess that includes smart TVs too!
On 23/09/2026 18:27, Jeff Layman wrote:
I have not ever seen a TV equipped with a microphone
On Channel 5 tonight at 1900:
"The secrets of your phone:
They don't want you to know"
"Alexis Conran explores the claims that smartphones and tech companies
are listening in on their users and collecting a vast amount of personal
data."
I guess that includes smart TVs too!
On 23/09/2026 18:27, Jeff Layman wrote:
On Channel 5 tonight at 1900:I have not ever seen a TV equipped with a microphone
"The secrets of your phone:
They don't want you to know"
"Alexis Conran explores the claims that smartphones and tech companies
are listening in on their users and collecting a vast amount of personal
data."
I guess that includes smart TVs too!
On 24/09/2026 10:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/09/2026 18:27, Jeff Layman wrote:
On Channel 5 tonight at 1900:I have not ever seen a TV equipped with a microphone
"The secrets of your phone:
They don't want you to know"
"Alexis Conran explores the claims that smartphones and tech companies
are listening in on their users and collecting a vast amount of personal >>> data."
I guess that includes smart TVs too!
<https://www.currys.co.uk/techtalk/how-to/user-manual/how-to-use-voice-control-on-your-tv.html>
On 22/09/2026 19:27, Pancho wrote:
On 9/22/26 16:20, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 22/09/2026 09:55, Pancho wrote:
On 9/22/26 08:31, Ian wrote:
On 2026-09-22, John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:56, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:21, wasbit wrote:
On 19/09/2026 17:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to >>>>>>>>>>>> have
been
damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - >>>>>>>>>>>> pic
here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-
lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen >>>>>>>>>>>> blacked
out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in >>>>>>>>>>>> another
TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen >>>>>>>>>>>> Samsung TV,
about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left >>>>>>>>>>> corner.-a The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive >>>>>>>>>>> traces
(typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers >>>>>>>>>>> around the
periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has >>>>>>>>>>> broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically >>>>>>>>>>> above in
this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a >>>>>>>>>>> donor TV
with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm >>>>>>>>>>> afraid
it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you >>>>>>>>>> have
100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you >>>>>>>>>> want to
find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an >>>>>>>>>> uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad >>>>>>>>> slingers
that modern TVs have become.
Not if you don't connect the tv to the internet.
Of course, and that's why there is pressure to turn off OTA
broadcasts.
When everything has to be streamed, you'll need to be connected >>>>>>> to the
internet if you want to watch TV. Then you're at the mercy of the >>>>>>> data
collectors and advertisers.
Yeah I know I'm old fashioned. If I want to watch something that's >>>>>>>> notAnd what else might the Roku stick be doing while you're watching >>>>>>> TV and
on Freeview I plug in a cheap Roku & remove it when I'm finished. >>>>>>>
it's connected to the internet?
Some smart TVs will already probe for open access wifi points they >>>>>> can
reach even if you don't provide the connection yourself. Wonder how >>>>>> long
before they come with a cellular modem installed?
https://xkcd.com/416/
This thread prompted me to play with my Smart TV features, which
because
I use it as a dumb monitor for an orange pi5, I'd never looked at
before.
I found a quick start option (5 seconds) as opposed to the normal 43
second boot time, result!
You will probably find that the "standby" condition it's now in with the >>> shorter boot time will mean that the standby power consumption is
considerably higher than it was.
TVs can have several different standby conditions, depending on how
they're set up. This can include changes made elsewhere, e.g. to an
"eco" mode, and/or whether or not external equipment is connected (via
HDMI) and the TV or other equipment is the "master" and set to turn the
TV or other equipment on as well.
Mind you, good luck trying to find the actual consumption figures in all >>> these different states!
Being an anal twat, My TV is attached to a smart plug with a power
meter, all logged to Domoticz.
Power usage when off logs as 0 watts, both before I changed to quick
start and after. It is 43 watts when on, most impressive for 55 inch.
Power consumption improved from my earlier LCD TV and monitors.
I've a feeling my 58" Panny is around the same, but the manual no longer gives /any/ consumption figure. My 17-years old 37" Panny gives the consumption as 197W!!!
I don't know how it uses 0 watts, when idle. The Orange Pi seems to use
5 watts all the time.
I hadn't heard of Domoticz, but it looks interesting. What do you use to measure power? The issue with a lot of "wattmeters" is that they don't
tend to work well at lower powers, as you've noticed, and even at higher powers can get fooled by SMPS and sometimes by the power factor of the equipment being measured.
There's an interesting, if now fairly old, discussion here: <https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/how-accurate-are-cheap-mains- power-meters/>
On 23/09/2026 18:27, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 23/09/2026 03:05, John Rumm wrote:I have not ever seen a TV equipped with a microphone
On 22/09/2026 18:58, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 22/09/2026 15:20, John Rumm wrote:
On 22/09/2026 09:36, wasbit wrote:What mostly appears on the screen of our TV is dust.
On 21/09/2026 09:56, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/09/2026 09:21, wasbit wrote:
On 19/09/2026 17:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/09/2026 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2026 12:38, Theo wrote:
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to >>>>>>>>>>>> have been
damaged in transit.-a Part of the screen is now blacked out - >>>>>>>>>>>> pic here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-
lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen >>>>>>>>>>>> blacked
out) or
know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in >>>>>>>>>>>> another
TV but
this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen >>>>>>>>>>>> Samsung TV,
about 10
years old.
There's a crack in the glass just up from the bottom left >>>>>>>>>>> corner. The
panel is covered with a grid of thin transparent conductive >>>>>>>>>>> traces
(typically indium tin oxide, ITO) that connect the drivers >>>>>>>>>>> around the
periphery to the individual pixels (LCD or OLED).-a The crack has >>>>>>>>>>> broken the
traces so the pixels downstream from the crack (vertically above >>>>>>>>>>> in this
case) are no longer connected and remain dark.
You need to replace the panel, but unless you can find a >>>>>>>>>>> donor TV
with the
identical panel it's unlikely to be economical to repair.-a I'm >>>>>>>>>>> afraid
it's
new TV time.
Theo
I was wondering what might fit the symptoms, and I believe you >>>>>>>>>> have
100% hit the nail on the head.
Since the cost of a TV is about 90% the LCD screen, unless you >>>>>>>>>> want to
find another one with bust electronics and spend a day for an >>>>>>>>>> uncertain result, put it in the trash
at 10 years old it doesn't owe you much.
True, but sadly that means dealing with the modern spyware / ad >>>>>>>>> slingers
that modern TVs have become.
Not if you don't connect the tv to the internet.
Of course, and that's why there is pressure to turn off OTA
broadcasts. When everything has to be streamed, you'll need to be >>>>>>> connected to the internet if you want to watch TV. Then you're at >>>>>>> the mercy of the data collectors and advertisers.
Yeah I know I'm old fashioned. If I want to watch somethingAnd what else might the Roku stick be doing while you're watching TV >>>>>>> and it's connected to the internet?
that's not
on Freeview I plug in a cheap Roku & remove it when I'm finished. >>>>>>>
Dunno, but all the information I input is fictitious apart from a
working email address kept for such occasions.
The stuff you enter is not what they are interested in... what appears >>>>> on your screen (regardless of source), and a list of all the other
devices on your network would be of more value.
Not too sure how they could monetise that, but LG are welcome to try.
They build profiles of what you watch and look at, then sell that to
advertisers looking for a demographic that matches the profile. By
snooping on the network they can identify other devices that might be
able to be targeted with ads, as well as get a better profile based on
the quantity and type of devices found. (bit like Uber in the states
will quote higher prices if you have an expensive phone, your battery is >>> getting low, or it is raining where you are).
On Channel 5 tonight at 1900:
"The secrets of your phone:
They don't want you to know"
"Alexis Conran explores the claims that smartphones and tech companies
are listening in on their users and collecting a vast amount of
personal data."
I guess that includes smart TVs too!
I recently moved a TV in the back of the car and it seems to have been damaged
in transit. Part of the screen is now blacked out - pic here:
https://photos.icloud.com/shared/album/0b0IP6eLRAI-lbNGyn2U1z9wA
Anyone recognise this symptom (large section of the screen blacked out) or know if it's easy to repair? I've replaced the backlight in another TV but this looks altogether different. It's a curved screen Samsung TV, about 10 years old.
TIA
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