• Shredder Woes

    From Generalie@Generalie@nospam.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 15 10:56:14 2026
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    Hi All

    I have a Bosch 2000 garden shredder which has performed well for a few
    years.

    Yesterday things started to go awry. It behaved as though there was a
    jam, sometimes temporarily.
    When a jam occurs the machine makes a stalled vibrating bbrrrr sound.
    When working normally it makes a whirring sound along with a light
    grating, the grating volume increases with added chomping noise when
    material is introduced.

    So I removed the plastic covering and cleared some material from the
    cutter. The cutter arrangement is a near vertical auger with sharp
    flights. By the time I had finished, I could rotate the cutter by hand
    in both directions.

    I reassembled the machine last thing yesterday.
    This morning I fully expected the machine to work. I turned it on and initially it worked in both directions, although before committing to
    the run state it made a brief stall noise.

    After a couple of run tests without material, it is now making the stall
    noise and blowing 13 amp plug fuses.

    Before I start taking this apart again, can anyone shed any light please?
    Have I just given it too much hammer and caused motor damage or similar?

    Thanks for any pointers.

    Phil
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 15 11:28:43 2026
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    On 15/08/2026 10:56, Generalie wrote:
    I reassembled the machine last thing yesterday.
    This morning I fully expected the machine to work. I turned it on and initially it worked in both directions, although before committing to
    the run state it made a brief stall noise.

    umm...classic symptoms of...

    After a couple of run tests without material, it is now making the stall noise and blowing 13 amp plug fuses.

    ...a dead starter capacitor on a squirrel cage mains induction motor

    we infer it is a mains motor because 13 A

    we infer it is induction because it 'worked in both directions'

    And that means it started backwards...
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  • From Generalie@Generalie@nospam.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 15 11:54:23 2026
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    On 15/08/2026 11:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 10:56, Generalie wrote:
    I reassembled the machine last thing yesterday.
    This morning I fully expected the machine to work. I turned it on and
    initially it worked in both directions, although before committing to
    the run state it made a brief stall noise.

    umm...classic symptoms of...

    After a couple of run tests without material, it is now making the
    stall noise and blowing 13 amp plug fuses.

    ...a dead starter capacitor on a squirrel cage mains induction motor

    we infer it is a mains motor because 13 A

    we infer it is induction because it-a 'worked in both directions'

    And that means it started backwards...


    Thanks NP

    How do I test for this please?

    I am not an electrician so would need four-year-old guidance!!!!


    Phil
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  • From GB@NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 15 12:27:34 2026
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    On 15/08/2026 11:54, Generalie wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 11:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 10:56, Generalie wrote:
    I reassembled the machine last thing yesterday.
    This morning I fully expected the machine to work. I turned it on and
    initially it worked in both directions, although before committing to
    the run state it made a brief stall noise.

    umm...classic symptoms of...

    After a couple of run tests without material, it is now making the
    stall noise and blowing 13 amp plug fuses.

    ...a dead starter capacitor on a squirrel cage mains induction motor

    we infer it is a mains motor because 13 A

    we infer it is induction because it-a 'worked in both directions'

    And that means it started backwards...


    Thanks NP

    How do I test for this please?

    I am not an electrician so would need four-year-old guidance!!!!


    Search for "bosch 2000 garden shredder capacitor replacement" videos.
    Here's one:



    https://www.youtube.com/live/ueOBcsQF9Us



    Good news is that the capacitor just plugs in, and you don't need a
    soldering iron.








    Phil

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 15 12:36:24 2026
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    On 15/08/2026 12:27, GB wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 11:54, Generalie wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 11:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 10:56, Generalie wrote:
    I reassembled the machine last thing yesterday.
    This morning I fully expected the machine to work. I turned it on
    and initially it worked in both directions, although before
    committing to the run state it made a brief stall noise.

    umm...classic symptoms of...

    After a couple of run tests without material, it is now making the
    stall noise and blowing 13 amp plug fuses.

    ...a dead starter capacitor on a squirrel cage mains induction motor

    we infer it is a mains motor because 13 A

    we infer it is induction because it-a 'worked in both directions'

    And that means it started backwards...


    Thanks NP

    How do I test for this please?

    I am not an electrician so would need four-year-old guidance!!!!


    Search for "bosch 2000 garden shredder capacitor replacement" videos.
    Here's one:



    https://www.youtube.com/live/ueOBcsQF9Us



    Good news is that the capacitor just plugs in, and you don't need a soldering iron.


    Yes. I was dismayed to see how easy it was on the CH boiler fuel pump.
    Needn't have got in a Man at all..


    PS if you have a reasonably up to date multimeter it will have a
    'measure capacitance' range and in my case about a 25% loss in
    capacitancce was enough to cause the sorts or effects the OP describes.

    Its such a common problem that capacitors are in plentiful supply everywhere




    Phil

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  • From Generalie@Generalie@nospam.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 15 15:21:54 2026
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    On 15/08/2026 12:36, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 12:27, GB wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 11:54, Generalie wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 11:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 10:56, Generalie wrote:
    I reassembled the machine last thing yesterday.
    This morning I fully expected the machine to work. I turned it on
    and initially it worked in both directions, although before
    committing to the run state it made a brief stall noise.

    umm...classic symptoms of...

    After a couple of run tests without material, it is now making the
    stall noise and blowing 13 amp plug fuses.

    ...a dead starter capacitor on a squirrel cage mains induction motor

    we infer it is a mains motor because 13 A

    we infer it is induction because it-a 'worked in both directions'

    And that means it started backwards...


    Thanks NP

    How do I test for this please?

    I am not an electrician so would need four-year-old guidance!!!!


    Search for "bosch 2000 garden shredder capacitor replacement" videos.
    Here's one:



    https://www.youtube.com/live/ueOBcsQF9Us



    Good news is that the capacitor just plugs in, and you don't need a
    soldering iron.


    Yes. I was dismayed to see how easy it was on the CH boiler fuel pump. Needn't have got in a Man at all..


    PS if you have a reasonably up to date multimeter it will have a
    'measure capacitance' range and in my case about a 25% loss in
    capacitancce was enough to cause the sorts or effects the OP describes.

    Its such a common problem that capacitors are in plentiful supply
    everywhere




    Phil



    Thanks to NP and GB

    The linked videos are bang on.

    The capacitor in my machine had blown the lid and the innards were
    making a bid for freedom.
    In my defence, I was looking specifically for a mechanical
    fault/blockage rather than electric failure.

    I've ordered one of these which appears to match the spec of the
    existing item.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yourspares-Universal-Microfarad-Appliance-Capacitor/dp/B0CJCK754G/ref=sr_1_7?crid=8NAM2GN4E8D9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.AHXpI9YuLtCRhy1EPplNs3oANj6JF7184yQqZ35kxeTfyYFAu267GU895WyWVom8oyuFgp8ikuLGkOPlOaJ3lGN1GKHIk-NC2_gs8cUQ-Vhur-G7hU-oR9BpogEw-bmNm7330xJjCKWi1fTuXnxItVUPmU1ZwibJTwAekmSHNfwbrtWBco2nE1qs7tt7Lxj0kNBz_1G-pHWoOTF6rDGy-AlxdSRFAE6ZCwyGIFj8bnFjORA_xlK8Fyeq52hsRDs7bXGeXIi6WXuUDaQcrVPbB--VuaJJvwwT1Z7EDqbVHAk.vcOQR_OddMOQGdkcE0VrdW4RTBoWHTNAiAz_AqAWWjo&dib_tag=se&keywords=start+run+capacitor+20uF&qid=1786801840&sprefix=start+run+capacitor+20uf%2Caps%2C112&sr=8-7

    Phil
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 15 16:05:29 2026
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    On 15/08/2026 15:21, Generalie wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 12:36, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 12:27, GB wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 11:54, Generalie wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 11:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 10:56, Generalie wrote:
    I reassembled the machine last thing yesterday.
    This morning I fully expected the machine to work. I turned it on
    and initially it worked in both directions, although before
    committing to the run state it made a brief stall noise.

    umm...classic symptoms of...

    After a couple of run tests without material, it is now making the >>>>>> stall noise and blowing 13 amp plug fuses.

    ...a dead starter capacitor on a squirrel cage mains induction motor >>>>>
    we infer it is a mains motor because 13 A

    we infer it is induction because it-a 'worked in both directions'

    And that means it started backwards...


    Thanks NP

    How do I test for this please?

    I am not an electrician so would need four-year-old guidance!!!!


    Search for "bosch 2000 garden shredder capacitor replacement" videos.
    Here's one:



    https://www.youtube.com/live/ueOBcsQF9Us



    Good news is that the capacitor just plugs in, and you don't need a
    soldering iron.


    Yes. I was dismayed to see how easy it was on the CH boiler fuel pump.
    Needn't have got in a Man at all..


    PS if you have a reasonably up to date multimeter it will have a
    'measure capacitance' range and in my case about a 25% loss in
    capacitancce was enough to cause the sorts or effects the OP describes.

    Its such a common problem that capacitors are in plentiful supply
    everywhere




    Phil



    Thanks to NP and GB

    The linked videos are bang on.

    The capacitor in my machine had blown the lid and the innards were
    making a bid for freedom.
    In my defence, I was looking specifically for a mechanical
    fault/blockage rather than electric failure.

    I've ordered one of these which appears to match the spec of the
    existing item.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yourspares-Universal-Microfarad-Appliance-Capacitor/dp/B0CJCK754G/ref=sr_1_7?crid=8NAM2GN4E8D9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.AHXpI9YuLtCRhy1EPplNs3oANj6JF7184yQqZ35kxeTfyYFAu267GU895WyWVom8oyuFgp8ikuLGkOPlOaJ3lGN1GKHIk-NC2_gs8cUQ-Vhur-G7hU-oR9BpogEw-bmNm7330xJjCKWi1fTuXnxItVUPmU1ZwibJTwAekmSHNfwbrtWBco2nE1qs7tt7Lxj0kNBz_1G-pHWoOTF6rDGy-AlxdSRFAE6ZCwyGIFj8bnFjORA_xlK8Fyeq52hsRDs7bXGeXIi6WXuUDaQcrVPbB--VuaJJvwwT1Z7EDqbVHAk.vcOQR_OddMOQGdkcE0VrdW4RTBoWHTNAiAz_AqAWWjo&dib_tag=se&keywords=start+run+capacitor+20uF&qid=1786801840&sprefix=start+run+capacitor+20uf%2Caps%2C112&sr=8-7

    If you ever need a new shredder get one of the "quiet" ones which have a slow-rotating cutting blade. I used to have one like the Bosch 2000 and
    got fed up having to take it apart every time it jammed (which was
    annoyingly frequent). I replaced it with a Titan 9w years ago and had no problems. If something gets stuck I just put it in reverse (takes about
    5 seconds) and that's that. <https://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-ttshr2800-2800w-200kg-hr-garden-shredder-230v/851gc>
    --
    Jeff
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  • From Generalie@Generalie@nospam.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 15 22:49:43 2026
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    On 15/08/2026 16:05, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 15:21, Generalie wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 12:36, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 12:27, GB wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 11:54, Generalie wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 11:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 15/08/2026 10:56, Generalie wrote:
    I reassembled the machine last thing yesterday.
    This morning I fully expected the machine to work. I turned it on >>>>>>> and initially it worked in both directions, although before
    committing to the run state it made a brief stall noise.

    umm...classic symptoms of...

    After a couple of run tests without material, it is now making the >>>>>>> stall noise and blowing 13 amp plug fuses.

    ...a dead starter capacitor on a squirrel cage mains induction motor >>>>>>
    we infer it is a mains motor because 13 A

    we infer it is induction because it-a 'worked in both directions'

    And that means it started backwards...


    Thanks NP

    How do I test for this please?

    I am not an electrician so would need four-year-old guidance!!!!


    Search for "bosch 2000 garden shredder capacitor replacement" videos.
    Here's one:



    https://www.youtube.com/live/ueOBcsQF9Us



    Good news is that the capacitor just plugs in, and you don't need a
    soldering iron.


    Yes. I was dismayed to see how easy it was on the CH boiler fuel pump.
    Needn't have got in a Man at all..


    PS if you have a reasonably up to date multimeter it will have a
    'measure capacitance' range and in my case about a 25% loss in
    capacitancce was enough to cause the sorts or effects the OP describes.

    Its such a common problem that capacitors are in plentiful supply
    everywhere




    Phil



    Thanks to NP and GB

    The linked videos are bang on.

    The capacitor in my machine had blown the lid and the innards were
    making a bid for freedom.
    In my defence, I was looking specifically for a mechanical
    fault/blockage rather than electric failure.

    I've ordered one of these which appears to match the spec of the
    existing item.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yourspares-Universal-Microfarad-Appliance-
    Capacitor/dp/B0CJCK754G/ref=sr_1_7?
    crid=8NAM2GN4E8D9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.AHXpI9YuLtCRhy1EPplNs3oANj6JF7184yQqZ35kxeTfyYFAu267GU895WyWVom8oyuFgp8ikuLGkOPlOaJ3lGN1GKHIk-NC2_gs8cUQ-Vhur-G7hU-oR9BpogEw-bmNm7330xJjCKWi1fTuXnxItVUPmU1ZwibJTwAekmSHNfwbrtWBco2nE1qs7tt7Lxj0kNBz_1G-pHWoOTF6rDGy-AlxdSRFAE6ZCwyGIFj8bnFjORA_xlK8Fyeq52hsRDs7bXGeXIi6WXuUDaQcrVPbB--VuaJJvwwT1Z7EDqbVHAk.vcOQR_OddMOQGdkcE0VrdW4RTBoWHTNAiAz_AqAWWjo&dib_tag=se&keywords=start+run+capacitor+20uF&qid=1786801840&sprefix=start+run+capacitor+20uf%2Caps%2C112&sr=8-7

    If you ever need a new shredder get one of the "quiet" ones which have a slow-rotating cutting blade. I used to have one like the Bosch 2000 and
    got fed up having to take it apart every time it jammed (which was annoyingly frequent). I replaced it with a Titan 9w years ago and had no problems. If something gets stuck I just put it in reverse (takes about
    5 seconds) and that's that. <https://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-ttshr2800-2800w-200kg-hr-garden- shredder-230v/851gc>


    Thanks for the recommendation Jeff.

    I was gifted this one from a neighbour, no longer with us. So I want to
    keep it running if possible.
    Aside from not liking green material, it has performed pretty well.
    This is the first tear down and component failure, other issues/jams
    have been resolved by changing from forward to reverse.

    Phil



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  • From John Rumm@see.my.signature@nowhere.null to uk.d-i-y on Sun Aug 16 11:02:15 2026
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    On 15/08/2026 22:49, Generalie wrote:

    I was gifted this one from a neighbour, no longer with us.-a So I want to keep it running if possible.
    Aside from not liking green material, it has performed pretty well. This

    I had a Bosch "Quiet" shredder for a number of years - the inability to
    cope with anything green or wet was always a bit of a limitation. Ok if
    you cut down something and then left it to dry out for a week, but not
    ideal for feeding in stuff as you trim it. I found as it aged and the
    helix lost its sharp edge it got more prone to clogging.

    is the first tear down and component failure, other issues/jams have
    been resolved by changing from forward to reverse.

    I know they have changed the design of these a few times, but the
    difficulty I often had with mine was having "cleared" the clog by
    running in reverse, it was very difficult to actually pull anything back through the feeder / hopper, so you would often end up just blocking it
    again on the same thing that you just reversed out.
    --
    Cheers,

    John.

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