I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
On 14/08/2026 20:44, Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
I have a pixel 3a and my wife has a somewhat newer Samsung something.
Both screens were on but this was only a few minutes after the alert.
John
On 14/08/2026 20:44, Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
You can turn them off
Go to your settings and select the 'notifications' menu. Scroll to the bottom. Turn off 'severe alerts' and 'extreme alerts'.
On my phone settings/notifications/advanced settings/wireless emergency alerts/allow alerts, toggle to off
On 14/08/2026 20:44, Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
You can turn them off
Go to your settings and select the 'notifications' menu. Scroll to the >bottom. Turn off 'severe alerts' and 'extreme alerts'.
On my phone settings/notifications/advanced settings/wireless emergency >alerts/allow alerts, toggle to off
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
On 14/08/2026 in message <0jru7ltqbfn9t0cu9153jq64043j1d5uif@4ax.com> Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
So did I, scared the life our of me, thought Trump had pressed the big red button.
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
On 14/08/2026 in message <0jru7ltqbfn9t0cu9153jq64043j1d5uif@4ax.com> Nick >>Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the >>>screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is >>>this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
So did I, scared the life our of me, thought Trump had pressed the big red >>button.
I suspect the wildfire alert was really a test of the nationwide alert
system in case Putin launches the Zircons and Oreshniks against targets in >the UK.
Spike wrote:
I suspect the wildfire alert was really a test of the nationwide alert
system in case Putin launches the Zircons and Oreshniks against targets in >> the UK.
Will the advice be the same, if you smell smoke close your windows and
check for local fires?
On 14/08/2026 20:44, Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
You can turn them off
Go to your settings and select the 'notifications' menu. Scroll to the bottom. Turn off 'severe alerts' and 'extreme alerts'.
On my phone settings/notifications/advanced settings/wireless emergency alerts/allow alerts, toggle to off
On 14/08/2026 21:22, alan_m wrote:
On 14/08/2026 20:44, Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
You can turn them off
Go to your settings and select the 'notifications' menu. Scroll to the
bottom. Turn off 'severe alerts' and 'extreme alerts'.
On my phone settings/notifications/advanced settings/wireless emergency
alerts/allow alerts, toggle to off
Thanks.
Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
On 14/08/2026 in message <0jru7ltqbfn9t0cu9153jq64043j1d5uif@4ax.com>
Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
So did I, scared the life our of me, thought Trump had pressed the big
red button.
I suspect the wildfire alert was really a test of the nationwide alert
system in case Putin launches the Zircons and Oreshniks against targets
in the UK.
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 20:44:56 +0100
Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
I thought I might have avoided all this chaos by having a 2/3/4G feature 'phone, but then yours was similar, if newer. Here, not a peep. And I am
in East Anglia, which is suffering as much as anywhere in the country.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 07:41:50 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
On 14/08/2026 in message <0jru7ltqbfn9t0cu9153jq64043j1d5uif@4ax.com>
Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
So did I, scared the life our of me, thought Trump had pressed the big
red button.
I suspect the wildfire alert was really a test of the nationwide alert
system in case Putin launches the Zircons and Oreshniks against targets
in the UK.
It was requested by the fire service.
A friend worked on them many moons ago. He said that if you weren't aware tehre was going to be an alert in advance, then *you* are who ti was--
meant for.
On 15/08/2026 10:10, Davey wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 20:44:56 +0100
Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
I thought I might have avoided all this chaos by having a 2/3/4G feature
'phone, but then yours was similar, if newer. Here, not a peep. And I am
in East Anglia, which is suffering as much as anywhere in the country.
It only works on smartphones running Android 11 or higher (or iPhones >running iOS 14.5 or higher). However, there are supposedly other ways
that alerts can be sent to feature phones.
On 14/08/2026 20:44, Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
The Law of Unintended Consequences? Anyway, that doesn't look right.
Weren't the alerts supposed to be on the screen for only 10 seconds?
I didn't know they'd been an alert until I heard it mentioned on the
news this morning. I turned off emergency announcements when they first stated that they were going to use them several years ago.
Jethro <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 07:41:50 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
On 14/08/2026 in message <0jru7ltqbfn9t0cu9153jq64043j1d5uif@4ax.com>
Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone. >>>>> It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or
is this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
So did I, scared the life our of me, thought Trump had pressed the
big red button.
I suspect the wildfire alert was really a test of the nationwide alert
system in case Putin launches the Zircons and Oreshniks against
targets in the UK.
It was requested by the fire service.
Well, I didnrCOt expect the alert to be requested by the Nuclear Ballistic Missile Early Warning System!
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency AlertsI'd left my phone behind, and didn't see the alert until about 1am,
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency AlertsI'd left my phone behind, and didn't see the alert until about 1am,
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone. It
was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only discovered
it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the screen was
stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had almost run
down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is this a side
effect of my using dated technology?
don't think the phone screen was on when I picked it up.
I rgought I'd turned alerts off ... I have now.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 10:49:43 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jethro <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote:And nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 07:41:50 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
On 14/08/2026 in message
<0jru7ltqbfn9t0cu9153jq64043j1d5uif@4ax.com>
Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts >>>>>> about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G
featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the >>>>>> screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had >>>>>> almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or >>>>>> is this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
So did I, scared the life our of me, thought Trump had pressed the
big red button.
I suspect the wildfire alert was really a test of the nationwide
alert system in case Putin launches the Zircons and Oreshniks against
targets in the UK.
It was requested by the fire service.
Well, I didnrCOt expect the alert to be requested by the Nuclear
Ballistic Missile Early Warning System!
On 15/08/2026 07:46, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 14/08/2026 20:44, Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
The Law of Unintended Consequences? Anyway, that doesn't look right.
Weren't the alerts supposed to be on the screen for only 10 seconds?
I didn't know they'd been an alert until I heard it mentioned on the
news this morning. I turned off emergency announcements when they first
stated that they were going to use them several years ago.
I know these alerts are easy to turn off, but why do so?
This latest one has had no effect on me, as I had no intention of
setting fire to my garden, but there might be an important alert one day.
For example, we spend a lot of time on the Norfolk coast, and it would
be good to get a warning if the sea wall collapses.
On 15/08/2026 07:46, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 14/08/2026 20:44, Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G
featurephone. It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening
and I only discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to
notice that the screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result
the battery had almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to
work that way or is this a side effect of my using dated
technology?
The Law of Unintended Consequences? Anyway, that doesn't look
right. Weren't the alerts supposed to be on the screen for only 10
seconds?
I didn't know they'd been an alert until I heard it mentioned on
the news this morning. I turned off emergency announcements when
they first stated that they were going to use them several years
ago.
I know these alerts are easy to turn off, but why do so?
This latest one has had no effect on me, as I had no intention of
setting fire to my garden, but there might be an important alert one
day.
For example, we spend a lot of time on the Norfolk coast, and it
would be good to get a warning if the sea wall collapses.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 11:23:17 +0000, Jethro wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 10:49:43 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jethro <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote:And nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 07:41:50 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
On 14/08/2026 in message
<0jru7ltqbfn9t0cu9153jq64043j1d5uif@4ax.com>
Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts >>>>>>> about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G
featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the >>>>>>> screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had >>>>>>> almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or >>>>>>> is this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
So did I, scared the life our of me, thought Trump had pressed the >>>>>> big red button.
I suspect the wildfire alert was really a test of the nationwide
alert system in case Putin launches the Zircons and Oreshniks against >>>>> targets in the UK.
It was requested by the fire service.
Well, I didnrCOt expect the alert to be requested by the Nuclear
Ballistic Missile Early Warning System!
Strangely, I was reading the Wikipedia entry on that not 5 minutes ago
(the sketch, that is).
Didn't realised it used the music 'Devil's Galop'.
That's the problem - might be. Do you think the latest one about being >careful to not start fires makes any sense? Those stupid enough to use >disposable BBQs in the current situation (ok, they're now temporarily >banned) aren't going to pay any attention to an alert anyway. Note that >"Emergency Alerts is a UK government system that provides warning and
advice in a life threatening emergency." It's not meant to be a warning >system about morons.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 11:23:17 +0000, Jethro wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 10:49:43 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jethro <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote:And nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 07:41:50 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
On 14/08/2026 in message
<0jru7ltqbfn9t0cu9153jq64043j1d5uif@4ax.com>
Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts >>>>>>> about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G
featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the >>>>>>> screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had >>>>>>> almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or >>>>>>> is this a side effect of my using dated technology?
Nick
So did I, scared the life our of me, thought Trump had pressed the >>>>>> big red button.
I suspect the wildfire alert was really a test of the nationwide
alert system in case Putin launches the Zircons and Oreshniks against >>>>> targets in the UK.
It was requested by the fire service.
Well, I didnrCOt expect the alert to be requested by the Nuclear
Ballistic Missile Early Warning System!
Strangely, I was reading the Wikipedia entry on that not 5 minutes ago
(the sketch, that is).
Didn't realised it used the music 'Devil's Galop'.
On 15/08/2026 in message <115psaa$3en4d$1@dont-email.me> Jeff Layman wrote:
That's the problem - might be. Do you think the latest one about being
careful to not start fires makes any sense? Those stupid enough to use
disposable BBQs in the current situation (ok, they're now temporarily
banned) aren't going to pay any attention to an alert anyway. Note that
"Emergency Alerts is a UK government system that provides warning and
advice in a life threatening emergency." It's not meant to be a warning
system about morons.
People are still using portable BBQs in the New Forest and when locals
point out the hazards they just get grief.
On 15/08/2026 15:16, Joe wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 12:21:02 +0100 GB <NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid>
wrote:
On 15/08/2026 07:46, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 14/08/2026 20:44, Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone. >>>>> It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or
is this a side effect of my using dated technology?
The Law of Unintended Consequences? Anyway, that doesn't look right.
Weren't the alerts supposed to be on the screen for only 10 seconds?
I didn't know they'd been an alert until I heard it mentioned on the
news this morning. I turned off emergency announcements when they
first stated that they were going to use them several years ago.
I know these alerts are easy to turn off, but why do so?
This latest one has had no effect on me, as I had no intention of
setting fire to my garden, but there might be an important alert one
day.
Which is exactly why the system should not be used for non-emergency
purposes other than pre-announced tests. We all know the story of the
boy who cried 'wolf' when there wasn't one.
Which would be an appropriate use of it.
For example, we spend a lot of time on the Norfolk coast, and it would
be good to get a warning if the sea wall collapses.
A general recommendation, of the same kind that has been carried in
newspapers and on the broadcast media repeatedly over the last few
weeks, is not an emergency.
I entirely agree. I assume that they wanted to test the system, but they should have pre-announced it. The message they sent was pretty banal.
Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 11:23:17 +0000, Jethro wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 10:49:43 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jethro <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote:And nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 07:41:50 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
On 14/08/2026 in message
<0jru7ltqbfn9t0cu9153jq64043j1d5uif@4ax.com>
Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency
Alerts about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G
featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that >>>>>>>> the screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the
battery had almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to
work that way or is this a side effect of my using dated
technology?
Nick
So did I, scared the life our of me, thought Trump had pressed the >>>>>>> big red button.
I suspect the wildfire alert was really a test of the nationwide
alert system in case Putin launches the Zircons and Oreshniks
against targets in the UK.
It was requested by the fire service.
Well, I didnrCOt expect the alert to be requested by the Nuclear
Ballistic Missile Early Warning System!
Strangely, I was reading the Wikipedia entry on that not 5 minutes ago
(the sketch, that is).
Didn't realised it used the music 'Devil's Galop'.
Somebody used to listen to Dick Barton Special AgentrCa
On 15/08/2026 14:39, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 11:23:17 +0000, Jethro wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 10:49:43 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jethro <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote:And nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 07:41:50 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
On 14/08/2026 in message
<0jru7ltqbfn9t0cu9153jq64043j1d5uif@4ax.com>
Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency
Alerts about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G
featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that >>>>>>>> the screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the
battery had almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to
work that way or is this a side effect of my using dated
technology?
Nick
So did I, scared the life our of me, thought Trump had pressed the >>>>>>> big red button.
I suspect the wildfire alert was really a test of the nationwide
alert system in case Putin launches the Zircons and Oreshniks
against targets in the UK.
It was requested by the fire service.
Well, I didnrCOt expect the alert to be requested by the Nuclear
Ballistic Missile Early Warning System!
Strangely, I was reading the Wikipedia entry on that not 5 minutes ago
(the sketch, that is).
Didn't realised it used the music 'Devil's Galop'.
wasn't that the Dick Barton theme tune (searching memory from the pre-Archers days).
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 16:25:13 +0100, GB wrote:
I entirely agree. I assume that they wanted to test the system, but they
should have pre-announced it. The message they sent was pretty banal.
They last tested the system in 2025
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 15:00:09 +0000, Charles Hope wrote:
On 15/08/2026 14:39, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 11:23:17 +0000, Jethro wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 10:49:43 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jethro <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote:And nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 07:41:50 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
On 14/08/2026 in message
<0jru7ltqbfn9t0cu9153jq64043j1d5uif@4ax.com>
Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency
Alerts about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G >>>>>>>>> featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only >>>>>>>>> discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that >>>>>>>>> the screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the
battery had almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to >>>>>>>>> work that way or is this a side effect of my using dated
technology?
Nick
So did I, scared the life our of me, thought Trump had pressed the >>>>>>>> big red button.
I suspect the wildfire alert was really a test of the nationwide >>>>>>> alert system in case Putin launches the Zircons and Oreshniks
against targets in the UK.
It was requested by the fire service.
Well, I didnrCOt expect the alert to be requested by the Nuclear
Ballistic Missile Early Warning System!
Strangely, I was reading the Wikipedia entry on that not 5 minutes ago
(the sketch, that is).
Didn't realised it used the music 'Devil's Galop'.
wasn't that the Dick Barton theme tune (searching memory from the
pre-Archers days).
Yes. The BBC never liked it (too sensational) so they binned it and
replaced it with the 'comfortable' Archers.
A general recommendation, of the same kind that has been carried in newspapers and on the broadcast media repeatedly over the last few
weeks, is not an emergency.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 14:26:31 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency AlertsI'd left my phone behind, and didn't see the alert until about 1am,
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone. It
was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only discovered
it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the screen was
stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had almost run
down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is this a side
effect of my using dated technology?
don't think the phone screen was on when I picked it up.
I rgought I'd turned alerts off ... I have now.
I sincerely hope people who have a seceret phone were not exposed.
On 15/08/2026 12:21, GB wrote:
On 15/08/2026 07:46, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 14/08/2026 20:44, Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is
this a side effect of my using dated technology?
The Law of Unintended Consequences? Anyway, that doesn't look right.
Weren't the alerts supposed to be on the screen for only 10 seconds?
I didn't know they'd been an alert until I heard it mentioned on the
news this morning. I turned off emergency announcements when they first
stated that they were going to use them several years ago.
I know these alerts are easy to turn off, but why do so?
I can't think of anything which for which I'd want to hear an alert
which I could do something about.
If they had a slow sound build-up it would be more acceptable, but a
loud sound going off suddenly is poor design. If you're up a ladder and
it suddenly goes off you might drop something - or, worse - yourself.
That could be true for doing anything hazardous at the time.
This latest one has had no effect on me, as I had no intention of
setting fire to my garden, but there might be an important alert one day.
That's the problem - /might/ be. Do you think the latest one about being careful to not start fires makes any sense? Those stupid enough to use disposable BBQs in the current situation (ok, they're now temporarily banned) aren't going to pay any attention to an alert anyway. Note that "Emergency Alerts is a UK government system that provides warning and
advice in a life threatening emergency." It's not meant to be a warning system about morons.
On 15/08/2026 15:16, Joe wrote:
A general recommendation, of the same kind that has been carried in newspapers and on the broadcast media repeatedly over the last few
weeks, is not an emergency.
Isn't climate change an emergency? Various politicians have been
spouting off in the past few days about the climate "emergency"
On 15/08/2026 18:41, Jethro wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 16:25:13 +0100, GB wrote:
I entirely agree. I assume that they wanted to test the system, but they >>> should have pre-announced it. The message they sent was pretty banal.
They last tested the system in 2025
If it's important, maybe it should be tested more frequently than that?
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 15:00:09 +0000, Charles Hope wrote:
On 15/08/2026 14:39, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 11:23:17 +0000, Jethro wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 10:49:43 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jethro <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote:And nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 07:41:50 +0000, Spike wrote:
Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
On 14/08/2026 in message
<0jru7ltqbfn9t0cu9153jq64043j1d5uif@4ax.com>
Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency
Alerts about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G >>>>>>>>> featurephone.
It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only >>>>>>>>> discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that >>>>>>>>> the screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the
battery had almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to >>>>>>>>> work that way or is this a side effect of my using dated
technology?
Nick
So did I, scared the life our of me, thought Trump had pressed the >>>>>>>> big red button.
I suspect the wildfire alert was really a test of the nationwide >>>>>>> alert system in case Putin launches the Zircons and Oreshniks
against targets in the UK.
It was requested by the fire service.
Well, I didnrCOt expect the alert to be requested by the Nuclear
Ballistic Missile Early Warning System!
Strangely, I was reading the Wikipedia entry on that not 5 minutes ago
(the sketch, that is).
Didn't realised it used the music 'Devil's Galop'.
wasn't that the Dick Barton theme tune (searching memory from the
pre-Archers days).
Yes. The BBC never liked it (too sensational) so they binned it and
replaced it with the 'comfortable' Archers.
And nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
Strangely, I was reading the Wikipedia entry on that not 5 minutes
ago (the sketch, that is).
Didn't realised it used the music 'Devil's Galop'.
wasn't that the Dick Barton theme tune (searching memory from the
pre-Archers days).
Yes. The BBC never liked it (too sensational) so they binned it and
replaced it with the 'comfortable' Archers.
The then head of BBC Drama said that, but the programme (Dick Barton
Special Agent) lasted from 7 October 1946 until 30 March 1951.
So they didn't exactly rush to take it off the air.
On 15/08/2026 15:15, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 15/08/2026 12:21, GB wrote:
On 15/08/2026 07:46, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 14/08/2026 20:44, Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone. >>>>> It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the
screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had
almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is >>>>> this a side effect of my using dated technology?
The Law of Unintended Consequences? Anyway, that doesn't look right.
Weren't the alerts supposed to be on the screen for only 10 seconds?
I didn't know they'd been an alert until I heard it mentioned on the
news this morning. I turned off emergency announcements when they first >>>> stated that they were going to use them several years ago.
I know these alerts are easy to turn off, but why do so?
I can't think of anything which for which I'd want to hear an alert
which I could do something about.
If they had a slow sound build-up it would be more acceptable, but a
loud sound going off suddenly is poor design. If you're up a ladder and
it suddenly goes off you might drop something - or, worse - yourself.
That could be true for doing anything hazardous at the time.
This latest one has had no effect on me, as I had no intention ofThat's the problem - /might/ be. Do you think the latest one about being
setting fire to my garden, but there might be an important alert one day. >>
careful to not start fires makes any sense? Those stupid enough to use
disposable BBQs in the current situation (ok, they're now temporarily
banned) aren't going to pay any attention to an alert anyway. Note that
"Emergency Alerts is a UK government system that provides warning and
advice in a life threatening emergency." It's not meant to be a warning
system about morons.
A variant form of Mission creep. "We have this facility, it'd be a
shame not to use it."
They may even be counterproductive.
When wildfires break out, it always seem to nudge into action that small >cadre of nutters who will go out and deliberately start (more) fires.
They don't seem to have sufficient imagination to do this until
something sparks the idea in their tiny brains.
Emergency Alerts seem like an ideal trigger for them.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 22:01:01 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
On 15/08/2026 15:15, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 15/08/2026 12:21, GB wrote:
On 15/08/2026 07:46, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 14/08/2026 20:44, Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency Alerts >>>>>> about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone. >>>>>> It was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only
discovered it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the >>>>>> screen was stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had >>>>>> almost run down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is >>>>>> this a side effect of my using dated technology?
The Law of Unintended Consequences? Anyway, that doesn't look right. >>>>> Weren't the alerts supposed to be on the screen for only 10 seconds? >>>>>
I didn't know they'd been an alert until I heard it mentioned on the >>>>> news this morning. I turned off emergency announcements when they first >>>>> stated that they were going to use them several years ago.
I know these alerts are easy to turn off, but why do so?
I can't think of anything which for which I'd want to hear an alert
which I could do something about.
If they had a slow sound build-up it would be more acceptable, but a
loud sound going off suddenly is poor design. If you're up a ladder and
it suddenly goes off you might drop something - or, worse - yourself.
That could be true for doing anything hazardous at the time.
This latest one has had no effect on me, as I had no intention ofThat's the problem - /might/ be. Do you think the latest one about being >>> careful to not start fires makes any sense? Those stupid enough to use
setting fire to my garden, but there might be an important alert one day. >>>
disposable BBQs in the current situation (ok, they're now temporarily
banned) aren't going to pay any attention to an alert anyway. Note that
"Emergency Alerts is a UK government system that provides warning and
advice in a life threatening emergency." It's not meant to be a warning
system about morons.
A variant form of Mission creep. "We have this facility, it'd be a
shame not to use it."
They may even be counterproductive.
When wildfires break out, it always seem to nudge into action that small
cadre of nutters who will go out and deliberately start (more) fires.
They don't seem to have sufficient imagination to do this until
something sparks the idea in their tiny brains.
Emergency Alerts seem like an ideal trigger for them.
You mean like last night, around midnight, after both the emergency
alerts had been broadcast, when two separate groups over here started
setting off fireworks in our local park?
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 22:10:31 +0100, Sam Plusnet wrote:
And nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
Strangely, I was reading the Wikipedia entry on that not 5 minutes
ago (the sketch, that is).
Didn't realised it used the music 'Devil's Galop'.
wasn't that the Dick Barton theme tune (searching memory from the
pre-Archers days).
Yes. The BBC never liked it (too sensational) so they binned it and
replaced it with the 'comfortable' Archers.
The then head of BBC Drama said that, but the programme (Dick Barton
Special Agent) lasted from 7 October 1946 until 30 March 1951.
So they didn't exactly rush to take it off the air.
I wonder whether he was new to the post...
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 14:26:31 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency AlertsI'd left my phone behind, and didn't see the alert until about 1am,
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone. It
was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only discovered
it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the screen was
stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had almost run
down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is this a side
effect of my using dated technology?
don't think the phone screen was on when I picked it up.
I rgought I'd turned alerts off ... I have now.
I sincerely hope people who have a seceret phone were not exposed.
On 15/08/2026 15:16, Joe wrote:
A general recommendation, of the same kind that has been carried in
newspapers and on the broadcast media repeatedly over the last few
weeks, is not an emergency.
Isn't climate change an emergency?-a Various politicians have been
spouting off in the past few days about the climate "emergency"
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 21:51:04 +0100
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 15/08/2026 15:16, Joe wrote:
A general recommendation, of the same kind that has been carried in
newspapers and on the broadcast media repeatedly over the last few
weeks, is not an emergency.
Isn't climate change an emergency? Various politicians have been
spouting off in the past few days about the climate "emergency"
No. No less a scientist than Bill Gates has said there is no longer a
climate emergency, now that all these power-hungry heat-emitting data
centres need to be built, oh what a giveaway*.
*Long-ago 'I'm Sorry, I'll Read That Again' fan.
A variant form of Mission creep.-a "We have this facility, it'd be a
shame not to use it."
They may even be counterproductive.
When wildfires break out, it always seem to nudge into action that small cadre of nutters who will go out and deliberately start (more) fires.
On 15/08/2026 21:51, alan_m wrote:
On 15/08/2026 15:16, Joe wrote:Everything is an emergency these days.
A general recommendation, of the same kind that has been carried in
newspapers and on the broadcast media repeatedly over the last few
weeks, is not an emergency.
Isn't climate change an emergency?-a Various politicians have been
spouting off in the past few days about the climate "emergency"
On 16/08/2026 11:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/08/2026 21:51, alan_m wrote:
On 15/08/2026 15:16, Joe wrote:Everything is an emergency these days.
A general recommendation, of the same kind that has been carried in
newspapers and on the broadcast media repeatedly over the last few
weeks, is not an emergency.
Isn't climate change an emergency?-a Various politicians have been
spouting off in the past few days about the climate "emergency"
Very much like the word "hero" being devalued. It now applies to
everyone in the armed services, everyone in the NHS and now all firefighters.
On 15/08/2026 22:01, Sam Plusnet wrote:
A variant form of Mission creep.-a "We have this facility, it'd be a
shame not to use it."
They may even be counterproductive.
When wildfires break out, it always seem to nudge into action that
small cadre of nutters who will go out and deliberately start (more)
fires.
They have to keep the Climate of Fear bubbling over...
Save The Planet by burning down the countryside...and pointing hair
dryers at weather stations.
On 16/08/2026 11:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/08/2026 22:01, Sam Plusnet wrote:
A variant form of Mission creep.-a "We have this facility, it'd be a
shame not to use it."
They may even be counterproductive.
When wildfires break out, it always seem to nudge into action that
small cadre of nutters who will go out and deliberately start (more)
fires.
They have to keep the Climate of Fear bubbling over...
Save The Planet by burning down the countryside...and pointing hair
dryers at weather stations.
Do many weather stations have convenient sockets for plugging in these
hair dryers?
John
John R Walliker <jrwalliker@gmail.com> wrote:
On 16/08/2026 11:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/08/2026 22:01, Sam Plusnet wrote:
A variant form of Mission creep.-a "We have this facility, it'd be a
shame not to use it."
They may even be counterproductive.
When wildfires break out, it always seem to nudge into action that
small cadre of nutters who will go out and deliberately start (more)
fires.
They have to keep the Climate of Fear bubbling over...
Save The Planet by burning down the countryside...and pointing hair
dryers at weather stations.
Do many weather stations have convenient sockets for plugging in these
hair dryers?
John
ItrCOs very noticeable that in the West Country, the weather forecasts for sunny days show two hot spots, at Exeter and Yeovil, the latter sometimes being 10degC hotter than Portland to its south. Exeter is usually around 8degC hotter.
But thatrCOs on sunny days. On cloudy days or at night, Exeter and Yeovil temperatures are no different than anywhere else.
Whatever can it be at these two places that attracts the heat of the sun?
ItrCOs very noticeable that in the West Country, the weather forecasts for >sunny days show two hot spots, at Exeter and Yeovil, the latter sometimes >being 10degC hotter than Portland to its south. Exeter is usually around >8degC hotter.
But thatrCOs on sunny days. On cloudy days or at night, Exeter and Yeovil >temperatures are no different than anywhere else.
Whatever can it be at these two places that attracts the heat of the sun?
On 16/08/2026 15:13, Spike wrote:
John R Walliker <jrwalliker@gmail.com> wrote:
On 16/08/2026 11:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/08/2026 22:01, Sam Plusnet wrote:
A variant form of Mission creep.-a "We have this facility, it'd be a >>>>> shame not to use it."
They may even be counterproductive.
When wildfires break out, it always seem to nudge into action that
small cadre of nutters who will go out and deliberately start (more) >>>>> fires.
They have to keep the Climate of Fear bubbling over...
Save The Planet by burning down the countryside...and pointing hair
dryers at weather stations.
Do many weather stations have convenient sockets for plugging in these
hair dryers?
John
ItrCOs very noticeable that in the West Country, the weather forecasts for >> sunny days show two hot spots, at Exeter and Yeovil, the latter sometimes
being 10degC hotter than Portland to its south. Exeter is usually around
8degC hotter.
But thatrCOs on sunny days. On cloudy days or at night, Exeter and Yeovil
temperatures are no different than anywhere else.
Whatever can it be at these two places that attracts the heat of the sun?
I think the answer to that is plain. Portland is stuck out in the
middle of the sea on a long peninsula. Yeovil and Exeter are inland.
The land gets warmed up by the sun whereas the sea remains at a much
more constant temperature.
John
In message <nedustFihb3U1@mid.individual.net>, Spike
<aero.spike@mail.com> writes
ItrCOs very noticeable that in the West Country, the weather forecasts for >> sunny days show two hot spots, at Exeter and Yeovil, the latter sometimes
being 10degC hotter than Portland to its south. Exeter is usually around
8degC hotter.
But thatrCOs on sunny days. On cloudy days or at night, Exeter and Yeovil
temperatures are no different than anywhere else.
Whatever can it be at these two places that attracts the heat of the sun?
Are the Exeter and Yeovil temperatures measured at the airfields ? The runways tend to draw the heat.
Earlier in the year, one of the record temperatures was at RNAS
Merryfield, an airfield near Ilminster.
Adrian
Adrian <diy@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
In message <nedustFihb3U1@mid.individual.net>, Spike
<aero.spike@mail.com> writes
ItrCOs very noticeable that in the West Country, the weather forecasts for >>> sunny days show two hot spots, at Exeter and Yeovil, the latter sometimes >>> being 10degC hotter than Portland to its south. Exeter is usually around >>> 8degC hotter.
But thatrCOs on sunny days. On cloudy days or at night, Exeter and Yeovil >>> temperatures are no different than anywhere else.
Whatever can it be at these two places that attracts the heat of the sun? >>>
Are the Exeter and Yeovil temperatures measured at the airfields ? The
runways tend to draw the heat.
Earlier in the year, one of the record temperatures was at RNAS
Merryfield, an airfield near Ilminster.
Adrian
IrCOve yet to see a temperature record high set in the countryside.
John R Walliker <jrwalliker@gmail.com> wrote:
On 16/08/2026 11:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/08/2026 22:01, Sam Plusnet wrote:
A variant form of Mission creep.-a "We have this facility, it'd be a
shame not to use it."
They may even be counterproductive.
When wildfires break out, it always seem to nudge into action that
small cadre of nutters who will go out and deliberately start (more)
fires.
They have to keep the Climate of Fear bubbling over...
Save The Planet by burning down the countryside...and pointing hair
dryers at weather stations.
Do many weather stations have convenient sockets for plugging in these
hair dryers?
John
ItrCOs very noticeable that in the West Country, the weather forecasts for sunny days show two hot spots, at Exeter and Yeovil, the latter sometimes being 10degC hotter than Portland to its south. Exeter is usually around 8degC hotter.
But thatrCOs on sunny days. On cloudy days or at night, Exeter and Yeovil temperatures are no different than anywhere else.
Whatever can it be at these two places that attracts the heat of the sun?
On 16/08/2026 17:07, Spike wrote:
Adrian <diy@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
In message <nedustFihb3U1@mid.individual.net>, Spike
<aero.spike@mail.com> writes
ItrCOs very noticeable that in the West Country, the weather forecasts >>>> for sunny days show two hot spots, at Exeter and Yeovil, the latterAre the Exeter and Yeovil temperatures measured at the airfields ?
sometimes being 10degC hotter than Portland to its south. Exeter is
usually around 8degC hotter.
But thatrCOs on sunny days. On cloudy days or at night, Exeter and
Yeovil temperatures are no different than anywhere else.
Whatever can it be at these two places that attracts the heat of the
sun?
The runways tend to draw the heat.
Earlier in the year, one of the record temperatures was at RNAS
Merryfield, an airfield near Ilminster.
Adrian
IrCOve yet to see a temperature record high set in the countryside.
Charlwood is in the countryside.
Wisley is mostly surrounded by
heathland and a golf course which is nearly countryside, although the A3
is not far away.
On 16/08/2026 17:07, Spike wrote:
Adrian <diy@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
In message <nedustFihb3U1@mid.individual.net>, Spike
<aero.spike@mail.com> writes
ItrCOs very noticeable that in the West Country, the weather forecasts >>>> for
sunny days show two hot spots, at Exeter and Yeovil, the latter
sometimes
being 10degC hotter than Portland to its south. Exeter is usually
around
8degC hotter.
But thatrCOs on sunny days. On cloudy days or at night, Exeter and Yeovil >>>> temperatures are no different than anywhere else.
Whatever can it be at these two places that attracts the heat of the
sun?
Are the Exeter and Yeovil temperatures measured at the airfields ?-a The >>> runways tend to draw the heat.
Earlier in the year, one of the record temperatures was at RNAS
Merryfield, an airfield near Ilminster.
Adrian
IrCOve yet to see a temperature record high set in the countryside.
Charlwood is in the countryside.-a Wisley is mostly surrounded by
heathland and a golf course which is nearly countryside, although
the A3 is not far away.
John
In message <nedustFihb3U1@mid.individual.net>, Spike
<aero.spike@mail.com> writes
ItrCOs very noticeable that in the West Country, the weather forecasts
for sunny days show two hot spots, at Exeter and Yeovil, the latter >sometimes being 10degC hotter than Portland to its south. Exeter is
usually around 8degC hotter.
But thatrCOs on sunny days. On cloudy days or at night, Exeter and
Yeovil temperatures are no different than anywhere else.
Whatever can it be at these two places that attracts the heat of the
sun?
Are the Exeter and Yeovil temperatures measured at the airfields ?
The runways tend to draw the heat.
Earlier in the year, one of the record temperatures was at RNAS
Merryfield, an airfield near Ilminster.
In message <nedustFihb3U1@mid.individual.net>, Spike
<aero.spike@mail.com> writes
ItrCOs very noticeable that in the West Country, the weather forecasts for >> sunny days show two hot spots, at Exeter and Yeovil, the latter sometimes
being 10degC hotter than Portland to its south. Exeter is usually around
8degC hotter.
But thatrCOs on sunny days. On cloudy days or at night, Exeter and Yeovil
temperatures are no different than anywhere else.
Whatever can it be at these two places that attracts the heat of the sun?
Are the Exeter and Yeovil temperatures measured at the airfields ?-a The runways tend to draw the heat.
Earlier in the year, one of the record temperatures was at RNAS--
Merryfield, an airfield near Ilminster.
Adrian
On 16/08/2026 11:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/08/2026 21:51, alan_m wrote:
On 15/08/2026 15:16, Joe wrote:Everything is an emergency these days.
A general recommendation, of the same kind that has been carried in
newspapers and on the broadcast media repeatedly over the last few
weeks, is not an emergency.
Isn't climate change an emergency?-a Various politicians have been
spouting off in the past few days about the climate "emergency"
Very much like the word "hero" being devalued. It now applies to
everyone in the armed services, everyone in the NHS and now all firefighters.
On 15/08/2026 14:38, Jethro wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 14:26:31 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
Nick Odell wrote:
I've just had one of those new-fangled Government Emergency AlertsI'd left my phone behind, and didn't see the alert until about 1am,
about fire risks in my area to my almost-up-to-date 4G featurephone. It >>>> was received by the phone at 19.00 this evening and I only discovered
it at around 20.30 because I happened to notice that the screen was
stuck in the "on" state and as a result the battery had almost run
down. Are emergency alerts supposed to work that way or is this a side >>>> effect of my using dated technology?
don't think the phone screen was on when I picked it up.
I rgought I'd turned alerts off ... I have now.
I sincerely hope people who have a seceret phone were not exposed.
Apparently it tipped off jail staff to hidden phones.
On 16/08/2026 17:48, Handsome Jack wrote:
On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 17:31:57 +0100, John R Walliker wrote:
On 16/08/2026 17:07, Spike wrote:
Adrian <diy@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
Charlwood is in the countryside.
Charlwood is right at the end of the Gatwick runway.
Wisley is mostly surrounded by
heathland and a golf course which is nearly countryside, although the A3 >>> is not far away.
And the M25, It's at the junction of the two.
Heathland gets bloody hot - nearly as hot as concrete and tarmac
On 16/08/2026 17:31, John R Walliker wrote:
On 16/08/2026 17:07, Spike wrote:
Adrian <diy@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
In message <nedustFihb3U1@mid.individual.net>, Spike
<aero.spike@mail.com> writes
ItrCOs very noticeable that in the West Country, the weather
forecasts for
sunny days show two hot spots, at Exeter and Yeovil, the latter
sometimes
being 10degC hotter than Portland to its south. Exeter is usually
around
8degC hotter.
But thatrCOs on sunny days. On cloudy days or at night, Exeter and
Yeovil
temperatures are no different than anywhere else.
Whatever can it be at these two places that attracts the heat of
the sun?
Are the Exeter and Yeovil temperatures measured at the airfields ?-a The >>>> runways tend to draw the heat.
Earlier in the year, one of the record temperatures was at RNAS
Merryfield, an airfield near Ilminster.
Adrian
IrCOve yet to see a temperature record high set in the countryside.
Charlwood is in the countryside.-a Wisley is mostly surrounded by
heathland and a golf course which is nearly countryside, although
the A3 is not far away.
John
so is the M25. And Charlwood is very close-a to Gatwick
Earlier in the year, one of the record temperatures was at RNAS
Merryfield, an airfield near Ilminster.
Yes, it does. However, that does not stop it from being "countryside". I avoid the heathland around Wisley at the moment because it gets so hot and prefer places like Great Bookham Common or The Sheepleas both of which are fairly wooded. They are all countryside, but very different thermally.
G. Bookham Common is only 5km from Wisley but the temperatures are very different. Which is "right"? Is it reasonble to say that either is
"wrong"?
John R Walliker <jrwalliker@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, it does. However, that does not stop it from being "countryside". I
avoid the heathland around Wisley at the moment because it gets so hot and >> prefer places like Great Bookham Common or The Sheepleas both of which are >> fairly wooded. They are all countryside, but very different thermally.
G. Bookham Common is only 5km from Wisley but the temperatures are very
different. Which is "right"? Is it reasonble to say that either is
"wrong"?
Oficial weather stations are supposed to be set up in the middle of a patch of mown grass.
John R Walliker <jrwalliker@gmail.com> wrote:
On 16/08/2026 15:13, Spike wrote:
ItrCOs very noticeable that in the West Country, the weather forecasts for >>> sunny days show two hot spots, at Exeter and Yeovil, the latter sometimes >>> being 10degC hotter than Portland to its south. Exeter is usually around >>> 8degC hotter.
But thatrCOs on sunny days. On cloudy days or at night, Exeter and Yeovil >>> temperatures are no different than anywhere else.
Whatever can it be at these two places that attracts the heat of the sun?
I think the answer to that is plain. Portland is stuck out in the
middle of the sea on a long peninsula. Yeovil and Exeter are inland.
The land gets warmed up by the sun whereas the sea remains at a much
more constant temperature.
John
Unfortunately, the other places in the SW that show forecast temperatures
are much the same as Portland, which I mentioned because itrCOs the nearest such place to Yeovil.
That and Exeter stand out as being consistently warmer than the rest, on sunny days. Something must be attracting the sunrCOs heat.
On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 16:53:42 +0100
Adrian <diy@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
In message <nedustFihb3U1@mid.individual.net>, Spike
<aero.spike@mail.com> writes
ItrCOs very noticeable that in the West Country, the weather forecasts
for sunny days show two hot spots, at Exeter and Yeovil, the latter
sometimes being 10degC hotter than Portland to its south. Exeter is
usually around 8degC hotter.
But thatrCOs on sunny days. On cloudy days or at night, Exeter and
Yeovil temperatures are no different than anywhere else.
Whatever can it be at these two places that attracts the heat of the
sun?
Are the Exeter and Yeovil temperatures measured at the airfields ?
The runways tend to draw the heat.
Earlier in the year, one of the record temperatures was at RNAS
Merryfield, an airfield near Ilminster.
Nearly all the official weather stations are at airfields, of all
sizes, as pilots are quite interested in temperature and pressure
conditions.
Look at the temperature observations map here:
https://www.xcweather.co.uk/
and see how many of the onshore observation points are not airfields.
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