• Re: Where is everyone?

    From snipeco.2@snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 7 19:26:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:

    On 10/05/2026 19:20, #Paul wrote:
    John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
    In the DIY spirit, is there any decent forum software that is useable
    and a bit usenet like? We could always host it ourselves...

    Maybe a usenet server itself? You wouldn't have to peer it with
    any other servers if you didn't want to, and by now they should
    be pretty bulletproof (or at least better than some random web-
    forum suite).

    Yup that would be doable, but would suffer the same problem as usenet
    proper - it is not that easy to access if you are new to the concept, so
    you are unlikely to get many new users. Something web based would be
    easier to find and use causally. The difficulty is replicating the speed
    and thread management of usenet.

    [jumping in late]

    Has RootBadger been mentioned yet? It's a work in progress that has
    Usenet style threading and is even accessible by old fashioned NNTP
    newsreaders as well as on the web. A nice feature is that you can own
    your own group and admin it yourself.

    I can give invitations on request. It's proprietary of course, being on
    the web.
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  • From snipeco.2@snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 7 19:45:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:

    Has RootBadger been mentioned yet? It's a work in progress that has
    Usenet style threading and is even accessible by old fashioned NNTP newsreaders as well as on the web. A nice feature is that you can own
    your own group and admin it yourself.

    I can give invitations on request. It's proprietary of course, being on
    the web.

    Oops, missing link: <https://rootbadger.com/home>
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    Sn!pe, birdbrain. My pet rock Gordon just is.
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  • From Abandoned Trolley@that.bloke@microsoft.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 8 07:40:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 07/08/2026 19:26, Sn!pe wrote:
    John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:

    On 10/05/2026 19:20, #Paul wrote:
    John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
    In the DIY spirit, is there any decent forum software that is useable
    and a bit usenet like? We could always host it ourselves...

    Maybe a usenet server itself? You wouldn't have to peer it with
    any other servers if you didn't want to, and by now they should
    be pretty bulletproof (or at least better than some random web-
    forum suite).

    Yup that would be doable, but would suffer the same problem as usenet
    proper - it is not that easy to access if you are new to the concept, so
    you are unlikely to get many new users. Something web based would be
    easier to find and use causally. The difficulty is replicating the speed
    and thread management of usenet.

    [jumping in late]

    Has RootBadger been mentioned yet? It's a work in progress that has
    Usenet style threading and is even accessible by old fashioned NNTP newsreaders as well as on the web. A nice feature is that you can own
    your own group and admin it yourself.

    I can give invitations on request. It's proprietary of course, being on
    the web.




    what about something like https://www.phpbb.com/ ?
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 8 10:04:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Sn!pe wrote:

    Has RootBadger been mentioned yet? It's a work in progress that has
    Usenet style threading and is even accessible by old fashioned NNTP newsreaders as well as on the web. A nice feature is that you can own
    your own group and admin it yourself.

    I'm not keen on anything that hopes to get people to migrate away from
    usenet, we know what facebook did to various once-popular groups.

    If newsbadger speaks nntp, why doesn't it federate with e.g. eternal
    september as a web frontend? It shouldn't be hard to do a better job
    than google groups ...
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  • From Alan B@alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 8 09:12:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 8 Aug 2026 at 10:04:16 BST, "Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Sn!pe wrote:

    Has RootBadger been mentioned yet? It's a work in progress that has
    Usenet style threading and is even accessible by old fashioned NNTP
    newsreaders as well as on the web. A nice feature is that you can own
    your own group and admin it yourself.

    I'm not keen on anything that hopes to get people to migrate away from usenet, we know what facebook did to various once-popular groups.

    If newsbadger speaks nntp, why doesn't it federate with e.g. eternal september as a web frontend? It shouldn't be hard to do a better job
    than google groups ...

    A fair point but the ability to perform admin on groups is a benefit, e.g. Banishing trolls without the need to send often ignored abuse complaints to Usenet server admins.
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    Cheers, Alan
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 8 10:34:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Alan B wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:

    If newsbadger speaks nntp, why doesn't it federate with e.g. eternal
    september as a web frontend? It shouldn't be hard to do a better job
    than google groups ...

    A fair point but the ability to perform admin on groups is a benefit, e.g. Banishing trolls without the need to send often ignored abuse complaints to Usenet server admins.

    There would be nothing stopping Newsbadger operating as a cleaned-up
    usenet feed for its own web users ... a kind of central killfile.


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  • From snipeco.2@snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 8 12:28:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Sn!pe wrote:

    Has RootBadger been mentioned yet? It's a work in progress that has
    Usenet style threading and is even accessible by old fashioned NNTP newsreaders as well as on the web. A nice feature is that you can own
    your own group and admin it yourself.


    I'm not keen on anything that hopes to get people to migrate away from usenet, we know what facebook did to various once-popular groups.


    Agreed, I'm not advocating this, I too prefer real Usenet. I just think
    that RootBadger is relevant and worthy of a mention. Myself, I think
    the decline of Usenet is mainly due to it being a moribund collection of long-standing cliques populated by ageing users who are beginning to
    fall off of their perches. There's no cure for that.

    I thought there was a suggestion upthread that a web-based forum which
    uses Usenet style threading might be desirable. Such could be more
    accessible to newcomers who don't have experience of real Usenet.


    If newsbadger speaks nntp, why doesn't it federate with e.g. eternal september as a web frontend? It shouldn't be hard to do a better job
    than google groups ...


    AIUI RootBadger aims to "keep it clean" and troll free and does so by
    being exclusive. It isn't part of Usenet at all, it's a web site that
    provides a set of aspects of the web including a set of forums that incidentally have been made accessible by NNTP. I don't think it's
    really breaking much new ground apart from adopting proper threading.
    It's new and in ongoing development by the Usenet user who built it.
    It could perhaps be a model for something provided by uk.d-i-y.
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    Sn!pe, birdbrain. My pet rock Gordon just is.
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