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...just anotrher 'speccy twat' or is he in fact far far worse?

Answers on a ballot slip ....
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On 24/06/2026 17:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

...just anotrher 'speccy twat' or is he in fact far far worse?

Answers on a ballot slip ....

Maybe, but its a sad state of affairs when you cant find a single
credible leader among mmore than 400 Labour MPs
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On 25/06/2026 07:47, Abandoned Trolley wrote:

On 24/06/2026 17:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

...just anotrher 'speccy twat' or is he in fact far far worse?

Answers on a ballot slip ....

Maybe, but its a sad state of affairs when you cant find a single
credible leader among mmore than 400 Labour MPs

Amazingly, Farage admitted that he would give way if a better leader
than him appeared in Reform. He just doesn't consider that one has. Yet.

We can see that overwhelmingly in the traditional parties, especially
Labour, candidates are selected on their ability to win their
constituency seats, not to manage the country.

At least some torys with government potential are catapulted into
safe-ish seats.

But who, with management experience and potential would actually join
the Labour party anyway?
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:02:43 +0100
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

We can see that overwhelmingly in the traditional parties, especially Labour, candidates are selected on their ability to win their
constituency seats, not to manage the country.

And also on their vulnerability to control. Where would the government
be if its whips could not control its MPs?
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On 25/06/2026 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Amazingly, Farage admitted that he would give way if a better leader
than him appeared in Reform. He just doesn't consider that one has. Yet.

Name the obvious fallacy in this statement...

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On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:02:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 25/06/2026 07:47, Abandoned Trolley wrote:

On 24/06/2026 17:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

...just anotrher 'speccy twat' or is he in fact far far worse?

Answers on a ballot slip ....

Maybe, but its a sad state of affairs when you cant find a single
credible leader among mmore than 400 Labour MPs

Amazingly, Farage admitted that he would give way if a better leader
than him appeared in Reform. He just doesn't consider that one has. Yet.

We can see that overwhelmingly in the traditional parties, especially >Labour, candidates are selected on their ability to win their
constituency seats, not to manage the country.

At least some torys with government potential are catapulted into
safe-ish seats.

But who, with management experience and potential would actually join
the Labour party anyway?

Who, with management experience and potential would actually go into
politics? There do not seem to be many.
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Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?
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On 25/06/2026 12:18, jkn wrote:

On 25/06/2026 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Amazingly, Farage admitted that he would give way if a better leader
than him appeared in Reform. He just doesn't consider that one has. Yet.

Name the obvious fallacy in this statement...

There is no fallacy.
That is what he said
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rCLit should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism
(or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans,
about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and
the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a
'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,'
a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for
rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet
things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that
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On 25/06/2026 12:42, AnthonyL wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:02:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 25/06/2026 07:47, Abandoned Trolley wrote:

On 24/06/2026 17:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

...just anotrher 'speccy twat' or is he in fact far far worse?

Answers on a ballot slip ....

Maybe, but its a sad state of affairs when you cant find a single
credible leader among mmore than 400 Labour MPs

Amazingly, Farage admitted that he would give way if a better leader
than him appeared in Reform. He just doesn't consider that one has. Yet.

We can see that overwhelmingly in the traditional parties, especially
Labour, candidates are selected on their ability to win their
constituency seats, not to manage the country.

At least some torys with government potential are catapulted into
safe-ish seats.

But who, with management experience and potential would actually join
the Labour party anyway?

Who, with management experience and potential would actually go into politics? There do not seem to be many.

Quite a few. If I were twenty years younger I would
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rCLit should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism
(or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans,
about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and
the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a
'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,'
a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for
rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet
things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that
you live neither in Joseph StalinrCOs Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984.rCY

Vaclav Klaus

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On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 21:42:30 +1000, AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:02:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 25/06/2026 07:47, Abandoned Trolley wrote:

On 24/06/2026 17:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

...just anotrher 'speccy twat' or is he in fact far far worse?

Answers on a ballot slip ....

Maybe, but its a sad state of affairs when you cant find a single
credible leader among mmore than 400 Labour MPs

Amazingly, Farage admitted that he would give way if a better leader
than him appeared in Reform. He just doesn't consider that one has. Yet.

We can see that overwhelmingly in the traditional parties, especially
Labour, candidates are selected on their ability to win their
constituency seats, not to manage the country.

At least some torys with government potential are catapulted into
safe-ish seats.

But who, with management experience and potential would actually join
the Labour party anyway?

Who, with management experience and potential would actually go into politics? There do not seem to be many.

Can't think of any who did in the 20th or 21st centuries

Macmillan arguably, but he didn't actually do too well for the country
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 02:50:13 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 21:42:30 +1000, AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:02:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 25/06/2026 07:47, Abandoned Trolley wrote:

On 24/06/2026 17:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

...just anotrher 'speccy twat' or is he in fact far far worse?

Answers on a ballot slip ....

Maybe, but its a sad state of affairs when you cant find a single
credible leader among mmore than 400 Labour MPs

Amazingly, Farage admitted that he would give way if a better leader
than him appeared in Reform. He just doesn't consider that one has. Yet. >>>
We can see that overwhelmingly in the traditional parties, especially
Labour, candidates are selected on their ability to win their
constituency seats, not to manage the country.

At least some torys with government potential are catapulted into
safe-ish seats.

But who, with management experience and potential would actually join
the Labour party anyway?

Who, with management experience and potential would actually go into
politics? There do not seem to be many.

Can't think of any who did in the 20th or 21st centuries

Macmillan arguably, but he didn't actually do too well for the country

I thought we'd never had it so good. Supermac.
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Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 21:31:16 +1000, AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 02:50:13 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 21:42:30 +1000, AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid>
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:02:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 25/06/2026 07:47, Abandoned Trolley wrote:

On 24/06/2026 17:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

...just anotrher 'speccy twat' or is he in fact far far worse?

Answers on a ballot slip ....

Maybe, but its a sad state of affairs when you cant find a single
credible leader among mmore than 400 Labour MPs

Amazingly, Farage admitted that he would give way if a better leader
than him appeared in Reform. He just doesn't consider that one has.
Yet.

We can see that overwhelmingly in the traditional parties, especially
Labour, candidates are selected on their ability to win their
constituency seats, not to manage the country.

At least some torys with government potential are catapulted into
safe-ish seats.

But who, with management experience and potential would actually join
the Labour party anyway?

Who, with management experience and potential would actually go into
politics? There do not seem to be many.

Can't think of any who did in the 20th or 21st centuries

Macmillan arguably, but he didn't actually do too well for the country

I thought we'd never had it so good. Supermac.

That's the usual logic problem of assuming that good times
were due to a particular PM when in fact the PM had nothing
to do policy wise with producing the good times

That's true in spades with the megaboom which the
USA had after the war which had absolutely nothing
to do with the policys of the president at that time

And on the management experience there is a world of
difference between how the military system works and
how the political system works so its very far from clear
that military management experience is of any use to a PM.
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On 26/06/2026 12:31, AnthonyL wrote:

On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 02:50:13 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 21:42:30 +1000, AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote: >>

On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:02:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 25/06/2026 07:47, Abandoned Trolley wrote:

On 24/06/2026 17:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

...just anotrher 'speccy twat' or is he in fact far far worse?

Answers on a ballot slip ....

Maybe, but its a sad state of affairs when you cant find a single
credible leader among mmore than 400 Labour MPs

Amazingly, Farage admitted that he would give way if a better leader
than him appeared in Reform. He just doesn't consider that one has. Yet. >>>>
We can see that overwhelmingly in the traditional parties, especially
Labour, candidates are selected on their ability to win their
constituency seats, not to manage the country.

At least some torys with government potential are catapulted into
safe-ish seats.

But who, with management experience and potential would actually join
the Labour party anyway?

Who, with management experience and potential would actually go into
politics? There do not seem to be many.

Can't think of any who did in the 20th or 21st centuries

Macmillan arguably, but he didn't actually do too well for the country

I thought we'd never had it so good. Supermac.

Macmillan at least had the advantage of preferring to shoot grouse than
talk bollocks to the nation. Or fiddle with laws that were fine as they
were.

Masterful inactivity. And a fairly sound economics adviser.

We never realised till we elected LayBurr that he was basically right.,
We never had had it so good.
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