• Power cut warnings?

    From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 06:41:03 2026
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    Why are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?
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  • From Clive Page@usenet@page2.eu to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 09:56:18 2026
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    On 24/06/2026 06:41, Andy Burns wrote:
    Why are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?

    Perhaps because they have a very low threshold for making alarming predictions? Every time there is the slightest sprinkling of snow in
    winter they issue terrible warnings about travel disruption, almost all
    of which don't come to pass.
    --
    Clive Page

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 11:47:37 2026
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    On 24/06/2026 06:41, Andy Burns wrote:
    Why are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?

    Presumably because the Met Office knows where lightning is likely, not
    NESO. And they may have an inkling where over reliance on solar energy
    will put the grid at risk
    --
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    always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

    Margaret Thatcher

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 11:49:32 2026
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    On 24/06/2026 09:56, Clive Page wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 06:41, Andy Burns wrote:
    Why are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?

    Perhaps because they have a very low threshold for making alarming predictions?-a-a Every time there is the slightest sprinkling of snow in winter they issue terrible warnings about travel disruption, almost all
    of which don't come to pass.


    And current weather is merely pleasant, not 'dangerously hot'

    Though the humidity is higher than I would like
    Not everyday one can sit naked in front of a computer with a window open.
    --
    "Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
    always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

    Margaret Thatcher

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  • From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 11:00:26 2026
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    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 11:49:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 24/06/2026 09:56, Clive Page wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 06:41, Andy Burns wrote:
    Why are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?

    Perhaps because they have a very low threshold for making alarming
    predictions?-a-a Every time there is the slightest sprinkling of snow in
    winter they issue terrible warnings about travel disruption, almost all
    of which don't come to pass.


    And current weather is merely pleasant, not 'dangerously hot'

    Though the humidity is higher than I would like Not everyday one can sit naked in front of a computer with a window open.

    And that m'Lud concludes the case for the defence.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 12:02:53 2026
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    On 24/06/2026 12:00, David wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 11:49:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 24/06/2026 09:56, Clive Page wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 06:41, Andy Burns wrote:
    Why are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?

    Perhaps because they have a very low threshold for making alarming
    predictions?-a-a Every time there is the slightest sprinkling of snow in >>> winter they issue terrible warnings about travel disruption, almost all
    of which don't come to pass.


    And current weather is merely pleasant, not 'dangerously hot'

    Though the humidity is higher than I would like Not everyday one can sit
    naked in front of a computer with a window open.

    And that m'Lud concludes the case for the defence.



    LOL!

    Good thing no one is within half a mile of said window
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 12:13:16 2026
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    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:
    Why are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?

    Presumably because the Met Office knows where lightning is likely, not
    NESO. And they may have an inkling where over reliance on solar energy
    will put the grid at risk
    They are billed as "due to heat" rather than specifically to lightning.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 12:14:35 2026
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    On 24/06/2026 12:13, Andy Burns wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:
    Why are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?

    Presumably because the Met Office knows where lightning is likely, not
    NESO. And they may have an inkling where over reliance on solar energy
    will put the grid at risk
    They are billed as "due to heat" rather than specifically to lightning.

    Mmm. Sagging overhead cables perhaps?
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    rCLPeople believe certain stories because everyone important tells them,
    and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them. Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, onerCOs agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of onerCOs suitability to be taken seriously.rCY

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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 12:55:04 2026
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    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:
    -aWhy are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?

    Presumably because the Met Office knows where lightning is likely,
    not NESO. And they may have an inkling where over reliance on solar
    energy will put the grid at risk
    They are billed as "due to heat" rather than specifically to lightning.

    Mmm. Sagging overhead cables perhaps
    The local rags love running scary headlines

    "powercut warnings for these 71 locations"

    But all I can see on the meto's own site is a generic warning

    "High risk of failure of heat-sensitive systems and equipment,
    with the loss of power and other essential services, such as
    water, electricity, gas or mobile phone services"
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  • From Marland@gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 13:15:47 2026
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    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 09:56, Clive Page wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 06:41, Andy Burns wrote:
    Why are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?

    Perhaps because they have a very low threshold for making alarming
    predictions?-a-a Every time there is the slightest sprinkling of snow in
    winter they issue terrible warnings about travel disruption, almost all
    of which don't come to pass.


    And current weather is merely pleasant, not 'dangerously hot'

    Though the humidity is higher than I would like
    Not everyday one can sit naked in front of a computer with a window open.


    Must make doing that clip for Pornhub far easier.

    GH

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 14:40:00 2026
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    On 24/06/2026 14:15, Marland wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 09:56, Clive Page wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 06:41, Andy Burns wrote:
    Why are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?

    Perhaps because they have a very low threshold for making alarming
    predictions?-a-a Every time there is the slightest sprinkling of snow in >>> winter they issue terrible warnings about travel disruption, almost all
    of which don't come to pass.


    And current weather is merely pleasant, not 'dangerously hot'

    Though the humidity is higher than I would like
    Not everyday one can sit naked in front of a computer with a window open.


    Must make doing that clip for Pornhub far easier.

    Sorry, but nothing about my ageing body is in the slightest bit erotic.

    The girls are far more likely to reach for a cold Pym's cup than my
    shrunken limp organ...


    GH

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    returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.

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  • From Joe@joe@jretrading.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 15:14:09 2026
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    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 12:13:16 +0100
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:
    Why are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?

    Presumably because the Met Office knows where lightning is likely,
    not NESO. And they may have an inkling where over reliance on solar
    energy will put the grid at risk
    They are billed as "due to heat" rather than specifically to
    lightning.

    Lightning is a function of very high rainfall, and any kind of
    precipitation is extremely difficult to forecast. I can't imagine a
    useful lightning forecast can be made.
    --
    Joe

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 17:11:36 2026
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    On 24/06/2026 15:14, Joe wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 12:13:16 +0100
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:
    >> Why are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?

    Presumably because the Met Office knows where lightning is likely,
    not NESO. And they may have an inkling where over reliance on solar
    energy will put the grid at risk
    They are billed as "due to heat" rather than specifically to
    lightning.

    Lightning is a function of very high rainfall, and any kind of
    precipitation is extremely difficult to forecast. I can't imagine a
    useful lightning forecast can be made.

    Can and is, especially in the short term (next 12 hours)

    Now you cannot say exactly where a storm will form (as in Lynmouth
    1952*), but you can say 'general likelihood of storms high'

    Right now the rain radar shows a small frontal system off the west of
    ireland. That MIGHT be storms in Ulster later on

    And the south of england and wails is showing very light precipitation,
    that might build up later.

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar
    (Although they claim no data is being received? Odd)


    Here in east anglia it's clear skies,but excessively humid. Almost cold
    beer humid, and that just needs a bit of cold air sliding underneath to
    let all hell loose

    I was brought up on these, and this shows that there are fronts around
    and some lows over Biscay and Iberia.

    All conditions that usually end in a bit of a bang

    Air this warm and moist is inherently unstable.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SAbMtJiFes

    This is latest met office preachings

    No immediate sign of storms...at leats in the south east.
    By the way the you tube channel from the Met is thankfully devoid of
    nearly all climate change propaganda and sensationalism. Yes, it's going
    to be a week in the 30-#C plus area for the 'beautiful south'

    But then, it was, in 1976, too

    Right Tortilla, salsa and beer, and pretend i am in Mexico....


    * "On 15 and 16 August 1952, a storm of tropical intensity broke over south-west England, depositing 229 millimetres (9.0 in) of rain within
    24 hours on the already saturated soil of Exmoor, Devon. It is thought
    that a cold front scooped up a thunderstorm, and the orographic effect worsened the storm. Debris-laden floodwaters cascaded down the northern escarpment of the moor, converging upon the village of Lynmouth; in particular, in the upper West Lyn valley, fallen trees and other debris
    formed a dam, which in due course gave way, sending a huge wave of water
    and debris down the river. "
    --
    In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone
    gets full Marx.

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  • From Charles Hope@clh@candehope.me.uk to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 16:30:02 2026
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    On 24/06/2026 12:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 12:13, Andy Burns wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:
    Why are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?

    Presumably because the Met Office knows where lightning is likely,
    not NESO. And they may have an inkling where over reliance on solar
    energy will put the grid at risk
    They are billed as "due to heat" rather than specifically to lightning.

    Mmm. Sagging overhead cables perhaps?


    excessive use of fans?
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 17:47:26 2026
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    On 24/06/2026 17:30, Charles Hope wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 12:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 12:13, Andy Burns wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:
    Why are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?

    Presumably because the Met Office knows where lightning is likely,
    not NESO. And they may have an inkling where over reliance on solar
    energy will put the grid at risk
    They are billed as "due to heat" rather than specifically to lightning.

    Mmm. Sagging overhead cables perhaps?


    excessive use of fans?

    Look summer electricity usage is way within winter limits and we have
    the gas power stations to cover it.

    Demand is a pissy 37GW and half of that is being covered by gas and nuclear. That cannot be the problem

    It has to be heat affecting equipment and infrastructure. It does bad
    things to overhead railway wires for example
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    obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which
    they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.rCY

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  • From wasbit@wasbit@invalid.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Jun 25 09:30:49 2026
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    On 24/06/2026 16:30, Charles Hope wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 12:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 12:13, Andy Burns wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:
    Why are these coming from the Met Office, rather than NESO?

    Presumably because the Met Office knows where lightning is likely,
    not NESO. And they may have an inkling where over reliance on solar
    energy will put the grid at risk
    They are billed as "due to heat" rather than specifically to lightning.

    Mmm. Sagging overhead cables perhaps?


    excessive use of fans?

    Not here. Well they may get excessive use but they are powered by
    portable solar panels.
    --
    Regards
    wasbit
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  • From Marland@gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 14:03:44 2026
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    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:


    * "On 15 and 16 August 1952, a storm of tropical intensity broke over south-west England, depositing 229 millimetres (9.0 in) of rain within
    24 hours on the already saturated soil of Exmoor, Devon. It is thought
    that a cold front scooped up a thunderstorm, and the orographic effect worsened the storm. Debris-laden floodwaters cascaded down the northern escarpment of the moor, converging upon the village of Lynmouth; in particular, in the upper West Lyn valley, fallen trees and other debris formed a dam, which in due course gave way, sending a huge wave of water
    and debris down the river. "

    It was bit of an unlucky choice of places for my parents to choose for
    their Honeymoon,though fortunately they were staying in Parracombe
    upstream from Lynmouth , even so someone died there.. The B+B was flooded
    so they moved on to stay with relatives in another part of Devon.

    GH
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