• Who's the youngest and the oldest D-i-Yer on here?

    From SH@i.love@spam.com to uk.d-i-y on Tue Jun 23 17:46:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Tue Jun 23 18:03:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    SH wrote:

    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    careful, someone may read that as factorial.

    62 (very soon)

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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 03:09:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 02:46:53 +1000, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    I'm 80

    Likely the turnip is older than that
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  • From The Other John@nomail@here.org to uk.d-i-y on Tue Jun 23 19:14:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    86 and I still do electrical and plumbing D-I-Y
    --
    TOJ

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  • From Charles Hope@clh@candehope.me.uk to uk.d-i-y on Tue Jun 23 19:00:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 23/06/2026 17:46, SH wrote:
    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    86
    Charles
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  • From Dave Barnes@a@b.com to uk.d-i-y on Tue Jun 23 20:55:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    SH presented the following explanation :
    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    I'm 68
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.d-i-y on Tue Jun 23 21:03:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 17:46:53 +0100, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    Come off it! If you really were only 54 you wouldn't even know what
    usenet is!


    Nick
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.d-i-y on Tue Jun 23 21:08:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 03:09:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 02:46:53 +1000, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    I'm 80

    Likely the turnip is older than that

    I'll let him speak for himself but I've always believed him to be
    around the same age as myself - which is 76. He and I worked at the
    same time, I think, in different companies in the same industry for a
    while and I've always presumed we were contemporaries.

    Nick
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Tue Jun 23 21:37:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 23/06/2026 17:46, SH wrote:
    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!
    75
    --
    rCLThose who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.rCY

    rCo Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles |a M. Claparede, Professeur de Th|-ologie |a Gen|?ve, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de
    M. de Voltaire

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Tue Jun 23 21:38:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 23/06/2026 21:08, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 03:09:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 02:46:53 +1000, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    I'm 80

    Likely the turnip is older than that

    I'll let him speak for himself but I've always believed him to be
    around the same age as myself - which is 76. He and I worked at the
    same time, I think, in different companies in the same industry for a
    while and I've always presumed we were contemporaries.

    Nick
    Spot on Nick.
    --
    rCLThose who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.rCY

    rCo Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles |a M. Claparede, Professeur de Th|-ologie |a Gen|?ve, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de
    M. de Voltaire

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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 07:15:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 06:08:06 +1000, Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 03:09:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 02:46:53 +1000, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    I'm 80

    Likely the turnip is older than that

    I'll let him speak for himself but I've always believed him to be
    around the same age as myself - which is 76. He and I worked at the
    same time, I think, in different companies in the same industry for a
    while and I've always presumed we were contemporaries.

    Nick

    Yeah, could be, I keep surprising myself when I am older
    than most in the news, even Trump

    Obviously wasn't true with many I used to work
    with at work, most of whom have died off now..
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  • From Timatmarford@tim@marford.uk.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 08:24:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 23/06/2026 21:37, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 23/06/2026 17:46, SH wrote:
    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!
    75

    I'm 82. Workshops have grown from an 8'x10'garden shed at 15 years to
    the current 35'x 80'! Sadly, powered machines bought cheaply at auction
    do not have refinements like DC injection braking, making shared use risky.
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  • From Chris J Dixon@chris@cdixon.me.uk to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 10:00:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    SH wrote:

    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'm 77 3/4 ;-)

    I'm not planning any major projects right now, though still feel
    reasonably able. SWMBO prefers that I limit ladder work, which
    seems entirely sensible.

    I found myself thinking, when I decorated hall, stairs and
    landing in 2017; it is 17 years since I last did it, will I
    be up to it in another 17?

    I remarked a while ago that my aged Bosch PBS 700 RES drill
    doesn't get much use these days, but whenever I have to tighten
    the chuck, the pressure required, on the button that stops it
    rotating, is more than I can easily provide.

    I never had great grip strength, and time is not helping matters.

    Sometimes it is the small things that confound us.

    Chris
    --
    Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK
    chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1

    Plant amazing Acers.
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  • From Chris Green@cl@isbd.net to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 10:02:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 03:09:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 02:46:53 +1000, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    I'm 80

    Likely the turnip is older than that

    I'll let him speak for himself but I've always believed him to be
    around the same age as myself - which is 76. He and I worked at the
    same time, I think, in different companies in the same industry for a
    while and I've always presumed we were contemporaries.

    I can top that, I'm 79 and still doing lots of DIY, just a bit more
    slowly than I used to! :-)
    --
    Chris Green
    -+
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  • From Tricky Dicky@tricky.dicky@sky.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 09:33:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!


    75 here and moving house in the next couple of weeks. Projects planned
    include bathroom refurbished, new kitchen and some wardrobes. I have SiL
    and grandson lined up for heavy lifting and will be looking for contractors
    for some paving and landscaping.

    Richard

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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 11:49:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 10:00:29 +0100, Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk>
    wrote:

    SH wrote:

    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the >>oldest on here?

    I'm 77 3/4 ;-)

    I'm not planning any major projects right now, though still feel
    reasonably able. SWMBO prefers that I limit ladder work, which
    seems entirely sensible.

    I found myself thinking, when I decorated hall, stairs and
    landing in 2017; it is 17 years since I last did it, will I
    be up to it in another 17?

    I remarked a while ago that my aged Bosch PBS 700 RES drill
    doesn't get much use these days, but whenever I have to tighten
    the chuck, the pressure required, on the button that stops it
    rotating, is more than I can easily provide.

    I never had great grip strength, and time is not helping matters.

    I'm not sure that it would get past H&S these days but when, many
    years ago, I was doing a lot of repetitive work with continual drill
    changes, I used the technique of dropping the drill bit into the open
    chuck, holding the chuck very tightly, starting the drill and bracing
    for the moment that the spinning chuck would snap tight against drill
    bit. That was always tight enough to hold the bit for the work and yet
    the bit could be released by gripping the chuck and flicking the wrist backwards against the inertia of the drill making the chuck open
    again.

    Mind you, this was with old-fashioned keyed chucks (which I still own
    and use and which I still tighten up in the same way) so the
    time-saving was worth while.




    Sometimes it is the small things that confound us.

    Chris
    Nick
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  • From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 11:05:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 17:46:53 +0100, SH wrote:

    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    75, soon to be 76.

    Lack of hand grip, lack of flexibility, and arthritis limit what I can comfortably tackle these days.

    I have a shed full (load?) of tools which haven't been used recently.

    Noting the Usenet demographic in the responses.

    Cheers



    Dave R
    --
    AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 10 x64

    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 12:11:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 24/06/2026 12:05, David wrote:
    75, soon to be 76.

    Lack of hand grip, lack of flexibility, and arthritis limit what I can comfortably tackle these days.

    I am fortunately clear of that by and large,. My problem is extreme
    fatigue and breathlessness under any exertion at all. Sometimes my O2
    levels are in the low 80s


    I am doing D-I-Y medical trials on my medications to see if I can ID
    what is causing it because I don't believe it is simply old age or illness.



    I have a shed full (load?) of tools which haven't been used recently.

    Indeed.

    Noting the Usenet demographic in the responses.
    --
    "Women actually are capable of being far more than the feminists will
    let them."



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  • From Theo@theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 13:16:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    I was born under Thatcher. Should give you some error bars :-)

    Theo
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 13:46:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 24/06/2026 13:16, Theo wrote:
    SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    I was born under Thatcher. Should give you some error bars :-)

    How uncomfortable. Couldn't your mother have moved her over a bit?



    Theo
    --
    I would rather have questions that cannot be answered...
    ...than to have answers that cannot be questioned

    Richard Feynman



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  • From Abandoned Trolley@that.bloke@microsoft.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 14:50:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y


    54!

    I was born under Thatcher.-a Should give you some error bars :-)

    How uncomfortable. Couldn't your mother have moved her over a bit?




    The lady is not for turning ?
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  • From Dave W@davewi11@yahoo.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 16:59:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 24/06/2026 14:50, Abandoned Trolley wrote:

    54!

    I was born under Thatcher.-a Should give you some error bars :-)

    How uncomfortable. Couldn't your mother have moved her over a bit?




    -aThe lady is not for turning ?
    The exclamation mark on the OP's declared age makes him the youngest.
    --
    Dave W
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  • From Charles Hope@clh@candehope.me.uk to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 16:30:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 24/06/2026 12:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 12:05, David wrote:
    75, soon to be 76.

    Lack of hand grip, lack of flexibility, and arthritis limit what I can
    comfortably tackle these days.

    I am fortunately clear of that by and large,. My problem is extreme
    fatigue and breathlessness under any exertion at all. Sometimes my O2
    levels are in the low 80s


    I am doing D-I-Y medical trials on my medications to see if I can ID
    what is causing it because I don't-a believe it is simply old age or illness.

    Define illness. a year ago (actually 15 months) I was diagnosed with
    kidney failure. symptoms seem similar>
    I have a shed full (load?) of tools which haven't been used recently.

    Indeed.

    Noting the Usenet demographic in the responses.


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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 17:44:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 24/06/2026 17:30, Charles Hope wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 12:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 12:05, David wrote:
    75, soon to be 76.

    Lack of hand grip, lack of flexibility, and arthritis limit what I can
    comfortably tackle these days.

    I am fortunately clear of that by and large,. My problem is extreme
    fatigue and breathlessness under any exertion at all. Sometimes my O2
    levels are in the low 80s


    I am doing D-I-Y medical trials on my medications to see if I can ID
    what is causing it because I don't-a believe it is simply old age or
    illness.

    Define illness.-a a year ago (actually 15 months) I was diagnosed with kidney failure. symptoms seem similar>

    Well take your pick from a medication that puts fluid in your lungs,
    kidney disease, ischaemic heart disease, asthma, COPD, leukemia, and
    tree pollen.

    My GP bless her heart seems totally out of her depth.

    BUT 10 years ago all I had was angina. I could walk the dogs miles every
    day.,

    Within 4 weeks from diagnosis, and medication I couldn't do 50 yards.
    and it got worse and worse.

    I've got an oximeter clamped on my finger full time. Ive seen oxygen
    levels down at a scary 70%.

    But if my lungs are clear its way better. Usually in the 90% range or more

    Right bow its at 86%

    Then it jumped to 91
    --
    "What do you think about Gay Marriage?"
    "I don't."
    "Don't what?"
    "Think about Gay Marriage."


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  • From John Rumm@see.my.signature@nowhere.null to uk.d-i-y on Wed Jun 24 18:10:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 23/06/2026 17:46, SH wrote:
    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    I was in my 30's when I started posting here... does that count?

    now 58... still doing plenty of DIY - it just aches more after!
    --
    Cheers,

    John.

    /=================================================================\
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    | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \=================================================================/
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  • From brian@nospam@b-howie.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu Jun 25 17:10:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    In message <111ed9t$2d74c$1@dont-email.me>, SH <i.love@spam.com> writes >Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!


    I'm 75 . The last bit of DIY I did was about 2 hours ago, when I had to replace the claw rake handle which broke as I was doing the garden
    Found suitable length of dowel in the woodpile . 15 min job.

    Brian
    --
    Brian Howie
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  • From Jim the Geordie@jim@geordieland.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Jun 25 17:48:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    In article <gsG9BrIaLVPqFwc9@b-howie.co.uk>, nospam@b-howie.co.uk
    says...

    In message <111ed9t$2d74c$1@dont-email.me>, SH <i.love@spam.com> writes >Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the >oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!


    I'm 75 . The last bit of DIY I did was about 2 hours ago, when I had to replace the claw rake handle which broke as I was doing the garden
    Found suitable length of dowel in the woodpile . 15 min job.

    Brian

    85
    Still pottering around, mainly garden and repairing things I made years
    ago.
    It's the knees you know :)
    --
    Jim the Geordie
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  • From Pamela@pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Jun 25 17:52:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 17:46 23 Jun 2026, SH said:


    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    Didn't someone in the Portable Air Conditioners thread recently say they
    were over 80?
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  • From SH@i.love@spam.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Jun 25 19:21:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 24/06/2026 13:16, Theo wrote:
    SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    I was born under Thatcher. Should give you some error bars :-)

    Theo


    I was born in 1971 so that would be under Sir Edward Heath.

    Thatcher was 1979 to 1990 so you're between 36 and 47

    So you're the youngest so far!
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  • From SH@i.love@spam.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Jun 25 19:23:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 23/06/2026 21:03, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 17:46:53 +0100, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    Come off it! If you really were only 54 you wouldn't even know what
    usenet is!


    Nick


    Yes I am really 54! I remember compuserve, BBSes and when teh sony
    walkman came out....

    And I know what the connection is between a audio cassette and a pencil!

    Anyway, theres Theo who was born during the Thatcher years so he's
    definitely younger than me!

    Stephen.
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.d-i-y on Thu Jun 25 20:18:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 17:52:15 +0100, Pamela
    <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 17:46 23 Jun 2026, SH said:


    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    Didn't someone in the Portable Air Conditioners thread recently say they >were over 80?

    Several people in this thread have already said they are eighty or
    over. I would tell you how many but I lost count on the way down the
    list. It's my age, you know :-(

    Nick
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  • From Roger Mills@mills37.fslife@gmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Jun 25 20:26:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 25/06/2026 20:18, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 17:52:15 +0100, Pamela
    <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 17:46 23 Jun 2026, SH said:


    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    Didn't someone in the Portable Air Conditioners thread recently say they
    were over 80?

    Several people in this thread have already said they are eighty or
    over. I would tell you how many but I lost count on the way down the
    list. It's my age, you know :-(

    Nick

    Well, here's another one. I'll be 84 in just over a week, and I'm still
    doing quite a lot of DIY including woodwork, plumbing and electrical work.
    --
    Cheers,
    Roger
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  • From Another John@lalaw44@hotmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Jun 25 19:55:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 24 Jun 2026 at 11:49:20 BST, "Nick Odell" <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:

    I never had great grip strength, and time is not helping matters.

    I realised a few years ago that wearing my rubber-coated gardening / builders' gloves (1.99 in Aldi when they've got them in) improved my grip strength an awful lot. I wear them for most jobs now, and only take them off (when working!) when I need to get out my Swiss Army knife.

    AJ
    (78)
    ("middle aged" accordinng to this survey!)

    PS I always thought John Rumm (Founder of https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/ , and dispenser of a bewildering variety of expert knowledge, gawd bless 'im)
    _must_ be older than me. Turns out he's a mere youth!
    Similarly Theo: I am minded of that episode of Red Dwarf when Rimmer has a brain storm and starts typing on two different keyboards at the same time, changing hands now and again ....

    (See? 78. Drivels on for ages!)
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  • From Bob Eager@throwaway0008@eager.cx to uk.d-i-y on Thu Jun 25 21:24:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 19:23:40 +0100, SH wrote:


    Yes I am really 54! I remember compuserve, BBSes and when teh sony
    walkman came out....

    And I know what the connection is between a audio cassette and a pencil!

    Anyway, theres Theo who was born during the Thatcher years so he's
    definitely younger than me!

    And here am I, on my third monarch...
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  • From Spike@aero.spike@mail.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Jun 25 21:47:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 17:52:15 +0100, Pamela
    <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 17:46 23 Jun 2026, SH said:


    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    Didn't someone in the Portable Air Conditioners thread recently say they
    were over 80?

    Several people in this thread have already said they are eighty or
    over. I would tell you how many but I lost count on the way down the
    list. It's my age, you know :-(

    Nick

    JFTR I was (almost) born in an Anderson shelter.

    Two hours later a bomb destroyed a house across the road.
    --
    Spike
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  • From SH@i.love@spam.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Jun 25 23:04:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 25/06/2026 22:47, Spike wrote:
    Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 17:52:15 +0100, Pamela
    <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 17:46 23 Jun 2026, SH said:


    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    Didn't someone in the Portable Air Conditioners thread recently say they >>> were over 80?

    Several people in this thread have already said they are eighty or
    over. I would tell you how many but I lost count on the way down the
    list. It's my age, you know :-(

    Nick

    JFTR I was (almost) born in an Anderson shelter.

    Two hours later a bomb destroyed a house across the road.


    are we talking 1st world war or the 2nd world war?
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  • From SH@i.love@spam.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Jun 25 23:05:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 25/06/2026 22:24, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 19:23:40 +0100, SH wrote:


    Yes I am really 54! I remember compuserve, BBSes and when teh sony
    walkman came out....

    And I know what the connection is between a audio cassette and a pencil!

    Anyway, theres Theo who was born during the Thatcher years so he's
    definitely younger than me!

    And here am I, on my third monarch...

    QE 2 came to the throne in 1952 so that makes you at least 74....
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 08:42:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 07:24:01 +1000, Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 19:23:40 +0100, SH wrote:


    Yes I am really 54! I remember compuserve, BBSes and when teh sony
    walkman came out....

    And I know what the connection is between a audio cassette and a pencil!

    Anyway, theres Theo who was born during the Thatcher years so he's
    definitely younger than me!

    And here am I, on my third monarch...

    Me too
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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Thu Jun 25 23:47:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 08:42:37 +1000
    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 07:24:01 +1000, Bob Eager
    <throwaway0008@eager.cx> wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 19:23:40 +0100, SH wrote:


    Yes I am really 54! I remember compuserve, BBSes and when teh sony
    walkman came out....

    And I know what the connection is between a audio cassette and a
    pencil!

    Anyway, theres Theo who was born during the Thatcher years so he's
    definitely younger than me!

    And here am I, on my third monarch...

    Me too

    And me, but I don't remember the first.
    --
    Davey.

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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Thu Jun 25 23:54:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 23:04:22 +0100
    SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

    On 25/06/2026 22:47, Spike wrote:
    Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 17:52:15 +0100, Pamela
    <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 17:46 23 Jun 2026, SH said:


    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and
    the oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    Didn't someone in the Portable Air Conditioners thread recently
    say they were over 80?

    Several people in this thread have already said they are eighty or
    over. I would tell you how many but I lost count on the way down
    the list. It's my age, you know :-(

    Nick

    JFTR I was (almost) born in an Anderson shelter.

    Two hours later a bomb destroyed a house across the road.


    are we talking 1st world war or the 2nd world war?

    A WW1 Anderson Shelter would have been a time-traveller!
    --
    Davey.

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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 10:27:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 08:47:06 +1000, Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 08:42:37 +1000
    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 07:24:01 +1000, Bob Eager
    <throwaway0008@eager.cx> wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 19:23:40 +0100, SH wrote:


    Yes I am really 54! I remember compuserve, BBSes and when teh sony
    walkman came out....

    And I know what the connection is between a audio cassette and a
    pencil!

    Anyway, theres Theo who was born during the Thatcher years so he's
    definitely younger than me!

    And here am I, on my third monarch...

    Me too

    And me, but I don't remember the first.

    I do, and him stupidly smoking himself to death
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  • From Chris Green@cl@isbd.net to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 08:15:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 08:42:37 +1000
    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 07:24:01 +1000, Bob Eager
    <throwaway0008@eager.cx> wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 19:23:40 +0100, SH wrote:


    Yes I am really 54! I remember compuserve, BBSes and when teh sony
    walkman came out....

    And I know what the connection is between a audio cassette and a
    pencil!

    Anyway, theres Theo who was born during the Thatcher years so he's
    definitely younger than me!

    And here am I, on my third monarch...

    Me too

    And me, but I don't remember the first.

    Oh, I do, hearing all the sombre reporting of the king's deat on the
    radio. Then the coronation for which (among other things) we had
    bought a television to watch. I was quite youg, about seven.
    --
    Chris Green
    -+
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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 07:40:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 26/06/2026 in message <7hl1hm-rd2.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> Chris Green wrote:

    And me, but I don't remember the first.

    Oh, I do, hearing all the sombre reporting of the king's deat on the
    radio. Then the coronation for which (among other things) we had
    bought a television to watch. I was quite youg, about seven.

    We lived in Brockley, SE4, then. I was 5 and we bought a TV, 9" black and white, to watch the coronation. The new queen actually drove past our
    house and we waved from the balcony. Tommy Steele did the same most days,
    much more exciting :-)
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    There are 3 types of people in this world. Those who can count, and those
    who can't.
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 08:46:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 08:15:19 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 08:42:37 +1000
    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 07:24:01 +1000, Bob Eager
    <throwaway0008@eager.cx> wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 19:23:40 +0100, SH wrote:


    Yes I am really 54! I remember compuserve, BBSes and when teh sony
    walkman came out....

    And I know what the connection is between a audio cassette and a
    pencil!

    Anyway, theres Theo who was born during the Thatcher years so he's
    definitely younger than me!

    And here am I, on my third monarch...

    Me too

    And me, but I don't remember the first.

    Oh, I do, hearing all the sombre reporting of the king's deat on the
    radio. Then the coronation for which (among other things) we had
    bought a television to watch. I was quite youg, about seven.

    I was two-and-a-quarter. My mother wrapped me up nice and warm and
    wheeled me in my push chair to watch the funeral cort*ge.

    I don't remember a thing about it. Fortunately I didn't have to
    because the Daily Mirror photographer took a picture of me in my
    pushchair on the route and it was on the front page the next day.

    That might just be a tiny exaggeration. It might be that the
    photographer captured a general view of the thousands and thousands of
    people lining the route and my mother might then have worked out which
    small cluster of lithographic dots might have been us, but I couldn't
    possibly comment.

    I consider having been wheeled out to pay my respects to that late
    monarch probably influenced my personal decision to wheel myself out
    this time and join the crowds in Hyde Park for the most recent one. No
    Daily Mirror photographer this time, only selfies.

    Nick
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  • From Spike@aero.spike@mail.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 07:48:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 08:42:37 +1000
    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 07:24:01 +1000, Bob Eager
    <throwaway0008@eager.cx> wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 19:23:40 +0100, SH wrote:


    Yes I am really 54! I remember compuserve, BBSes and when teh sony
    walkman came out....

    And I know what the connection is between a audio cassette and a
    pencil!

    Anyway, theres Theo who was born during the Thatcher years so he's
    definitely younger than me!

    And here am I, on my third monarch...

    Me too

    And me, but I don't remember the first.

    I saw his funeral on TV.
    --
    Spike
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  • From Spike@aero.spike@mail.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 07:48:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
    On 25/06/2026 22:47, Spike wrote:
    Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 17:52:15 +0100, Pamela
    <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 17:46 23 Jun 2026, SH said:


    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the >>>>> oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    Didn't someone in the Portable Air Conditioners thread recently say they >>>> were over 80?

    Several people in this thread have already said they are eighty or
    over. I would tell you how many but I lost count on the way down the
    list. It's my age, you know :-(

    Nick

    JFTR I was (almost) born in an Anderson shelter.

    Two hours later a bomb destroyed a house across the road.


    are we talking 1st world war or the 2nd world war?

    We have so many warsrCatake your pickrCa
    --
    Spike
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  • From Indy Jess John@bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 12:09:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 26/06/2026 08:40, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 in message <7hl1hm-rd2.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> Chris Green wrote:

    And me, but I don't remember the first.

    Oh, I do, hearing all the sombre reporting of the king's deat on the
    radio.-a Then the coronation for which (among other things) we had
    bought a television to watch.-a I was quite youg, about seven.

    We lived in Brockley, SE4, then. I was 5 and we bought a TV, 9" black
    and white, to watch the coronation. The new queen actually drove past
    our house and we waved from the balcony. Tommy Steele did the same most days, much more exciting :-)

    That reads as though Tommy Steele waved from your balcony. :-)

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  • From Indy Jess John@bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 12:13:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 24/06/2026 10:00, Chris J Dixon wrote:

    I'm 77 3/4 ;-)

    You are Adrian Mole and I claim my -u5 :-)

    I am 78


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  • From Marland@gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 11:21:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 in message <7hl1hm-rd2.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> Chris Green wrote:

    And me, but I don't remember the first.

    Oh, I do, hearing all the sombre reporting of the king's deat on the
    radio. Then the coronation for which (among other things) we had
    bought a television to watch. I was quite youg, about seven.

    We lived in Brockley, SE4, then. I was 5 and we bought a TV, 9" black and white, to watch the coronation. The new queen actually drove past our
    house and we waved from the balcony. Tommy Steele did the same most days, much more exciting :-)


    CanrCOt go back that far, but in 1959 we were marched across the playing
    field adjacent to my Primary School in Chiswick to the edge of what most
    still called The Great West Road , from there we waved at President
    Eisenhower going past in an open top Rolls. Later research to pinpoint the date has shown he requested an open vehicle and the Government had to
    borrow one off a businessman as the official car pool only had saloons.
    Often when people used to ask my age but I didnrCOt want to be too precise I used to reply ,old enough to have ridden on the Trolleybuses but not the Trams.
    For a decade or more though younger people have queried rCLWhatrCOs a Trolleybus?rCY.



    GH
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  • From Indy Jess John@bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 13:23:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 24/06/2026 12:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 12:05, David wrote:
    75, soon to be 76.

    Lack of hand grip, lack of flexibility, and arthritis limit what I can
    comfortably tackle these days.

    I am fortunately clear of that by and large,. My problem is extreme
    fatigue and breathlessness under any exertion at all. Sometimes my O2
    levels are in the low 80s


    I am doing D-I-Y medical trials on my medications to see if I can ID
    what is causing it because I don't-a believe it is simply old age or illness.


    I have just tested my oxygen level and it is 98, but I am sat in a chair
    using a keyboard. If I walk uphill I get out of breath very quickly and
    have to either slow right down and keep going or stop to get my breath
    back and then carry on until I have to stop again.

    Almost 9 years ago I had what the medical records call a TIA.
    Effectively a short-lived stroke. I collapsed on the bathroom floor
    partway through my morning wash and shave when I lost control of the
    right side of my body. But over he next minute or two I gradually
    recovered enough to haul myself back on my feet and I stumbled back to
    the living room where my wife took one look at me and dialled 999. The ambulance arrived surprisingly quickly afterwards and I was quickly
    assessed then helped into the ambulance, and the phone call ahead meant
    that I was wheeled immediately into the stroke unit where there were a
    few more tests before I was given anti-coagulant injections and put to
    bed to rest. I had more injections about 4 hours later and then went to
    sleep. When I woke up the following morning I felt completely back to
    normal. During the day I was wired up to a couple of machines, then
    kept under observation for another 24 hours before being discharged home
    with an appointment to have a lot more diagnostic tests.

    A long story short, the TIA was caused by Atrial fibrillation which
    overnight had formed a soft clot in the heart and being active the next morning had dislodged it and it had been pumped around my body. The bit
    that arrived in my brain actually worked its way through thanks to the anticoagulant injections but the bits that ended up in my lungs stayed
    there. The artery that goes into the lungs divides into a branch to
    each, and each of the branches then divides into three smaller arteries,
    and in each of these one of the three is still blocked by a clot. So a
    third of my lungs have no circulation and are effectively non
    functional, my heart has to work harder to get blood through fewer
    routes through the lungs so I now have an enlarged heart.

    I was subjected to various things to try to get rid of the AF, none
    fully successful. The final one before they decided I would have to
    live with it was where they gave me an injection to knock me out, then
    stopped my heart, then restarted it with a defibrillator with the
    intention of the electrical discharge destroying the rogue nerve in my
    heart which was responsible for the AF. I was assured that this was a
    routine process. Most patients had their rhythm restored by the third attempt, and if the third attempt failed to restart the heart, they
    would increase the power for the fourth attempt and that would be
    successful. When I came round afterwards, I had a huge electrical burn
    across my chest. Apparently the fourth attempt also failed, the fifth
    at the highest recommenced power didn't either, and the sixth one was at
    the highest output possible from the machine (hence the burn) but it did restart my heart. Over the years since I have had to have annual tests
    with MRI scans, timed walking trials, electrocardiogram tests, ECGs and
    blood tests. At the first tests I was told that the AF was improved, in
    that it happened now and again and not continuously, but I am now on anticoagulant tablets for the rest of my life to prevent a repeat of any
    clot formation. I was told that normally, the treatments would either
    slowly remove the clots in my lungs and I would then be fully back to
    normal, or there would be a repeat, and if it didn't kill me there was
    only one hospital in the country with the skills and specialised
    equipment to remove clots from deep in the lungs.

    Typically I did neither. After the sixth annual review I was told by
    the consultant that I was one of the rare cases where I was almost
    entirely stable. My walking distance over a timed 6 minutes was almost
    exactly the same (+ or - 5 metres), my electrocardiograms and ECGs were
    almost identical. I was told that there was no point in the hospital continuing to monitor me, and I was discharged. So I just carry on regardless. I know one day my enlarged heart will give out, but it
    could have been worse as the electrical burn on my chest showed. Every
    day above ground is therefore a good day. I was 78 in March.
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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 14:08:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 26/06/2026 in message <111lmkt$28g17$3@dont-email.me> Indy Jess John
    wrote:

    On 26/06/2026 08:40, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 in message <7hl1hm-rd2.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> Chris Green wrote:

    And me, but I don't remember the first.

    Oh, I do, hearing all the sombre reporting of the king's deat on the >>>radio.-a Then the coronation for which (among other things) we had
    bought a television to watch.-a I was quite youg, about seven.

    We lived in Brockley, SE4, then. I was 5 and we bought a TV, 9" black and >>white, to watch the coronation. The new queen actually drove past our >>house and we waved from the balcony. Tommy Steele did the same most days, >>much more exciting :-)

    That reads as though Tommy Steele waved from your balcony. :-)

    :-)

    My dad was very impressed with Tommy's car but I can't remember the model.
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant
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  • From Charles Hope@clh@candehope.me.uk to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 15:15:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 25/06/2026 17:48, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    In article <gsG9BrIaLVPqFwc9@b-howie.co.uk>, nospam@b-howie.co.uk
    says...

    In message <111ed9t$2d74c$1@dont-email.me>, SH <i.love@spam.com> writes
    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!


    I'm 75 . The last bit of DIY I did was about 2 hours ago, when I had to
    replace the claw rake handle which broke as I was doing the garden
    Found suitable length of dowel in the woodpile . 15 min job.

    Brian

    85
    Still pottering around, mainly garden and repairing things I made years
    ago.
    It's the knees you know :)


    just changef the pull light switch in the bathroom - and yes, I turned
    off the supply breaker.
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 16:23:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 26 Jun 2026 14:08:13 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    On 26/06/2026 in message <111lmkt$28g17$3@dont-email.me> Indy Jess John >wrote:

    On 26/06/2026 08:40, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 in message <7hl1hm-rd2.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> Chris Green wrote: >>>
    And me, but I don't remember the first.

    Oh, I do, hearing all the sombre reporting of the king's deat on the >>>>radio.a Then the coronation for which (among other things) we had >>>>bought a television to watch.a I was quite youg, about seven.

    We lived in Brockley, SE4, then. I was 5 and we bought a TV, 9" black and >>>white, to watch the coronation. The new queen actually drove past our >>>house and we waved from the balcony. Tommy Steele did the same most days, >>>much more exciting :-)

    That reads as though Tommy Steele waved from your balcony. :-)

    :-)

    My dad was very impressed with Tommy's car but I can't remember the model.

    There's quite a well-known publicity picture of Tommy Steele lounging
    against the side of a white Ford Zephyr but I don't know if it
    actually belonged to him.

    I lived in Sunbury-on-Thames in those days and quite a few famous
    people lived around that area. Tommy Steele lived in nearby Hampton
    Wick. I was very confused when I bumped into the actor Richard Vernon
    once, near some shops in Molesey because I regularly watched
    children's tv and by rights he should have been in Brighton with his
    family and their new French au-pair. [1]

    Graffiti is nothing new because you could recognise Adam Faith's house
    by the messages of teenage lust scrawled all over it. And even though
    Dicky Valentine was more of my parents' generation, on my walk to
    school, I always peered through the hedge outside his house to see if
    I could spot him. I never did.

    Nick
    [1]Such a shock to this young boy that I remember it still and by the
    way, the first gramophone record I bought with my own money was Acker
    Bilk's recording of the theme tune to the series.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 17:37:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 26/06/2026 13:23, Indy Jess John wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 12:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 24/06/2026 12:05, David wrote:
    75, soon to be 76.

    Lack of hand grip, lack of flexibility, and arthritis limit what I can
    comfortably tackle these days.

    I am fortunately clear of that by and large,. My problem is extreme
    fatigue and breathlessness under any exertion at all. Sometimes my O2
    levels are in the low 80s


    I am doing D-I-Y medical trials on my medications to see if I can ID
    what is causing it because I don't-a believe it is simply old age or
    illness.


    I have just tested my oxygen level and it is 98, but I am sat in a chair using a keyboard.-a If I walk uphill I get out of breath very quickly and have to either slow right down and keep going or stop to get my breath
    back and then carry on until I have to stop again.

    Almost 9 years ago I had what the medical records call a TIA.
    Effectively a short-lived stroke.-a I collapsed on the bathroom floor partway through my morning wash and shave when I lost control of the
    right side of my body.-a But over he next minute or two I gradually recovered enough to haul myself back on my feet and I stumbled back to
    the living room where my wife took one look at me and dialled 999.-a The ambulance arrived surprisingly quickly afterwards and I was quickly
    assessed then helped into the ambulance, and the phone call ahead meant
    that I was wheeled immediately into the stroke unit where there were a
    few more tests before I was given anti-coagulant injections and put to
    bed to rest. I had more injections about 4 hours later and then went to sleep.-a When I woke up the following morning I felt completely back to normal.-a During the day I was wired up to a couple of machines, then
    kept under observation for another 24 hours before being discharged home with an appointment to have a lot more diagnostic tests.

    A long story short, the TIA was caused by Atrial fibrillation which overnight had formed a soft clot in the heart and being active the next morning had dislodged it and it had been pumped around my body.-a The bit that arrived in my brain actually worked its way through thanks to the anticoagulant injections but the bits that ended up in my lungs stayed there.-a The artery that goes into the lungs divides into a branch to
    each, and each of the branches then divides into three smaller arteries,
    and in each of these one of the three is still blocked by a clot.-a So a third of my lungs have no circulation and are effectively non
    functional, my heart has to work harder to get blood through fewer
    routes through the lungs so I now have an enlarged heart.

    I was subjected to various things to try to get rid of the AF, none
    fully successful.-a The final one before they decided I would have to
    live with it was where they gave me an injection to knock me out, then stopped my heart, then restarted it with a defibrillator with the
    intention of the electrical discharge destroying the rogue nerve in my
    heart which was responsible for the AF.-a I was assured that this was a routine process.-a Most patients had their rhythm restored by the third attempt, and if the third attempt failed to restart the heart, they
    would increase the power for the fourth attempt and that would be successful.-a When I came round afterwards, I had a huge electrical burn across my chest.-a Apparently the fourth attempt also failed, the fifth
    at the highest recommenced power didn't either, and the sixth one was at
    the highest output possible from the machine (hence the burn) but it did restart my heart. Over the years since I have had to have annual tests
    with MRI scans, timed walking trials, electrocardiogram tests, ECGs and blood tests. At the first tests I was told that the AF was improved, in
    that it happened now and again and not continuously, but I am now on anticoagulant tablets for the rest of my life to prevent a repeat of any clot formation.-a I was told that normally, the treatments would either slowly remove the clots in my lungs and I would then be fully back to normal, or there would be a repeat, and if it didn't kill me there was
    only one hospital in the country with the skills and specialised
    equipment to remove clots from deep in the lungs.

    Typically I did neither.-a After the sixth annual review I was told by
    the consultant that I was one of the rare cases where I was almost
    entirely stable. My walking distance over a timed 6 minutes was almost exactly the same (+ or - 5 metres), my electrocardiograms and ECGs were almost identical.-a I was told that there was no point in the hospital continuing to monitor me, and I was discharged.-a So I just carry on regardless.-a I know one day my enlarged heart will give out, but it
    could have been worse as the electrical burn on my chest showed. Every
    day above ground is therefore a good day. I was 78 in March.

    Different issues: same sort of story. So9metimes they find out what's
    wrong and fix it. Sometimes they are completely baffled.
    --
    It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house
    for the voice of the kingdom.

    Jonathan Swift


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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 17:44:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 26/06/2026 16:23, Nick Odell wrote:
    I lived in Sunbury-on-Thames in those days and quite a few famous
    people lived around that area. Tommy Steele lived in nearby Hampton
    Wick. I was very confused when I bumped into the actor Richard Vernon
    once, near some shops in Molesey because I regularly watched
    children's tv and by rights he should have been in Brighton with his
    family and their new French au-pair. [1]

    I lived a village or two over from Eric Clapton for the first 15 years
    of my life. Never saw him, never met him.

    Ditto Barnes Wallis. And Petula Clark. And the Tyrell racing team.

    Much more exciting were the V bombers making roof top approaches to the 'unmarked secret' airfield just down the rad where William of Occam was
    born.

    Ada Lovelace used to live down the road 100 years ago. Her house was
    bought by Tommy Sopwith.
    --
    It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house
    for the voice of the kingdom.

    Jonathan Swift


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  • From Charles Hope@clh@candehope.me.uk to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 19:15:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 26/06/2026 17:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 16:23, Nick Odell wrote:
    I lived in Sunbury-on-Thames in those days and quite a few famous
    people lived around that area. Tommy Steele lived in nearby Hampton
    Wick. I was very confused when I bumped into the actor Richard Vernon
    once, near some shops in Molesey because I regularly watched
    children's tv and by rights he should have been in Brighton with his
    family and their new French au-pair. [1]

    I lived a village or two over from Eric Clapton for the first 15 years
    of my life. Never saw him, never met him.

    Ditto Barnes Wallis. And Petula Clark. And the Tyrell racing team.

    Much more exciting were the V bombers making roof top approaches to the 'unmarked secret' airfield just down the rad where William of Occam was born.

    Ada Lovelace used to live down the road 100 years ago. Her house was
    bought by Tommy Sopwith.


    I recognise those references, Ada's house is now a hotel and is hosting
    a village picnic on Sunday.
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  • From alan_m@junk@admac.myzen.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 20:57:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 23/06/2026 17:46, SH wrote:
    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    72 and I let myself get out of shape. I've lost just over a stone this
    year and am taking a lot more exercise (mainly walking). Still doing
    most DIY, plumbing, electrical, wallpapering painting, gardening etc.
    but do have some difficulty with one of my knees so getting up from
    knelling down requires something I can push on with my arms. The grip in
    my hands has also deteriorated over the years.
    --
    mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk
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  • From alan_m@junk@admac.myzen.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 20:58:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 25/06/2026 22:24, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 19:23:40 +0100, SH wrote:


    Yes I am really 54! I remember compuserve, BBSes and when teh sony
    walkman came out....

    And I know what the connection is between a audio cassette and a pencil!

    Anyway, theres Theo who was born during the Thatcher years so he's
    definitely younger than me!

    And here am I, on my third monarch...

    But how many prime ministers :)
    --
    mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 21:09:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    alan_m wrote:

    I let myself get out of shape.

    Ditto

    I've lost just over a stone this year

    Six stone (with the jabs)

    and am taking a lot more exercise (mainly walking).

    Same, but overdid it a fortnight ago and have a pig of a blister under
    my big toe.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 21:45:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 26/06/2026 20:15, Charles Hope wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 17:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 16:23, Nick Odell wrote:
    I lived in Sunbury-on-Thames in those days and quite a few famous
    people lived around that area. Tommy Steele lived in nearby Hampton
    Wick. I was very confused when I bumped into the actor Richard Vernon
    once, near some shops in Molesey because I regularly watched
    children's tv and by rights he should have been in Brighton with his
    family and their new French au-pair. [1]

    I lived a village or two over from Eric Clapton for the first 15 years
    of my life. Never saw him, never met him.

    Ditto Barnes Wallis. And Petula Clark. And the Tyrell racing team.

    Much more exciting were the V bombers making roof top approaches to
    the 'unmarked secret' airfield just down the rad where William of
    Occam was born.

    Ada Lovelace used to live down the road 100 years ago. Her house was
    bought by Tommy Sopwith.


    I recognise those references, Ada's house is now a hotel and is hosting
    a village picnic on Sunday.

    Indeed it is.

    Lovely venue.
    --
    rCLThe ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to
    fill the world with fools.rCY

    Herbert Spencer

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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jun 26 23:56:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 26/06/2026 08:48, Spike wrote:
    SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
    On 25/06/2026 22:47, Spike wrote:
    Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 17:52:15 +0100, Pamela
    <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 17:46 23 Jun 2026, SH said:


    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the >>>>>> oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    Didn't someone in the Portable Air Conditioners thread recently say they >>>>> were over 80?

    Several people in this thread have already said they are eighty or
    over. I would tell you how many but I lost count on the way down the
    list. It's my age, you know :-(

    Nick

    JFTR I was (almost) born in an Anderson shelter.

    Two hours later a bomb destroyed a house across the road.


    are we talking 1st world war or the 2nd world war?

    We have so many warsrCatake your pickrCa

    I think "Anderson shelter" pins it down pretty well to the second half
    (after a two decade, half time interval).
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Spike@aero.spike@mail.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Jun 27 08:14:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 08:48, Spike wrote:
    SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
    On 25/06/2026 22:47, Spike wrote:

    JFTR I was (almost) born in an Anderson shelter.

    Two hours later a bomb destroyed a house across the road.

    are we talking 1st world war or the 2nd world war?

    We have so many warsrCatake your pickrCa

    I think "Anderson shelter" pins it down pretty well to the second half (after a two decade, half time interval).

    After the war my dad turned the Anderson shelter into a chicken coop, so we
    had a nice supply of fresh eggs (and roast chicken).

    When that phase was over I can remember it being dismantled for scrap, apparently there was a demand for scrap steel and so it went for a good
    price.

    I can just remember the (very smelly) pig bins at the end of our street, I donrCOt think they lasted as long as the Anderson shelter.
    --
    Spike
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  • From Timatmarford@tim@marford.uk.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Jun 27 09:40:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 27/06/2026 09:14, Spike wrote:
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 08:48, Spike wrote:
    SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
    On 25/06/2026 22:47, Spike wrote:

    JFTR I was (almost) born in an Anderson shelter.

    Two hours later a bomb destroyed a house across the road.

    are we talking 1st world war or the 2nd world war?

    We have so many warsrCatake your pickrCa

    I think "Anderson shelter" pins it down pretty well to the second half
    (after a two decade, half time interval).

    After the war my dad turned the Anderson shelter into a chicken coop, so we had a nice supply of fresh eggs (and roast chicken).

    When that phase was over I can remember it being dismantled for scrap, apparently there was a demand for scrap steel and so it went for a good price.

    I can just remember the (very smelly) pig bins at the end of our street, I donrCOt think they lasted as long as the Anderson shelter.

    Our bomb shelter was in a field about 200m from the house. Why anyone
    thought the Germans would target a relatively isolated farmhouse is
    unknown. When we kids dismantled it we discovered the roof was supported
    by cut up rail lines.

    The *Anderson shelter* steel was around 2mm thick and must have been
    sold off as post war surplus as we had a barn used for rearing calves
    built of the stuff.>


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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sat Jun 27 09:51:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 27/06/2026 09:14, Spike wrote:
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 08:48, Spike wrote:
    SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
    On 25/06/2026 22:47, Spike wrote:

    JFTR I was (almost) born in an Anderson shelter.

    Two hours later a bomb destroyed a house across the road.

    are we talking 1st world war or the 2nd world war?

    We have so many warsrCatake your pickrCa

    I think "Anderson shelter" pins it down pretty well to the second half
    (after a two decade, half time interval).

    After the war my dad turned the Anderson shelter into a chicken coop, so we had a nice supply of fresh eggs (and roast chicken).

    Where I rented an old cottage from a Fen Farmer...there were a couple of really large poplars growing right next to a 'drain' (man made drainage
    canals that feed the river system via pumps).

    "Ar well them shouldn't be that close to the drain, that were an
    accident. In the war I made a chicken run and used two poplar sticks for
    the corners, and they grew into those'

    When that phase was over I can remember it being dismantled for scrap, apparently there was a demand for scrap steel and so it went for a good price.


    People these days don't realise how little 'new' stuff there was and how
    much it actually cost.

    We lived on second hand furniture and hand-me-downs. During covid I
    dismantled some of my grandmothers home made quilts, stuffed with
    chicken feathers from her chickens. These dated to the 1930s.

    I made cushions with them.


    I can just remember the (very smelly) pig bins at the end of our street, I donrCOt think they lasted as long as the Anderson shelter.


    My mother used to call it the 'pigs bin'. It went on a 'compost heap' to
    feed the rats.

    Eventually it ended up on vegetables and stuff

    The joys of buying cheap food from shops....
    --
    The New Left are the people they warned you about.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sat Jun 27 09:54:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 27/06/2026 09:40, Timatmarford wrote:
    Our bomb shelter was in a field about 200m from the house. Why anyone thought the Germans would target a relatively isolated farmhouse is
    unknown.

    Behind the family house, there was a field. Around 20 miles from London
    we were. well outside any target and until the suburbanisation of the
    1950s entirely rural.

    Nevertheless there was a bomb crater in that field.
    --
    You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a
    kind word alone.

    Al Capone



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  • From Chris J Dixon@chris@cdixon.me.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sat Jun 27 10:01:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    People these days don't realise how little 'new' stuff there was and how >much it actually cost.

    We lived on second hand furniture and hand-me-downs. During covid I >dismantled some of my grandmothers home made quilts, stuffed with
    chicken feathers from her chickens. These dated to the 1930s.

    When my parents' CC41 (1) bed was eventually replaced, I
    acquired some of the timber. One of its main beams has been
    supporting my workbench for over 50 years.

    (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CC41

    Chris
    --
    Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK
    chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1

    Plant amazing Acers.
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  • From Timatmarford@tim@marford.uk.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Jun 27 10:23:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 27/06/2026 09:54, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 27/06/2026 09:40, Timatmarford wrote:
    Our bomb shelter was in a field about 200m from the house. Why anyone
    thought the Germans would target a relatively isolated farmhouse is
    unknown.

    Behind the family house, there was a field. Around 20 miles from London
    we were. well outside any target and until the suburbanisation of the
    1950s entirely rural.

    Nevertheless there was a bomb crater in that field.

    We are still 20 miles from central London! The Germans were said to
    target the Vauxhall works at Luton (then making light tanks) which took
    them over us. It was also said that they used the area North of London
    to gain altitude so the actual bombing run was at maximum speed to get
    through the AA fire.

    I don't think the village was ever targeted, the few craters were likely caused by releases to lighten the aircraft.>

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  • From Spike@aero.spike@mail.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Jun 27 09:54:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Timatmarford <tim@marford.uk.com> wrote:
    On 27/06/2026 09:54, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 27/06/2026 09:40, Timatmarford wrote:
    Our bomb shelter was in a field about 200m from the house. Why anyone
    thought the Germans would target a relatively isolated farmhouse is
    unknown.

    Behind the family house, there was a field. Around 20 miles from London
    we were. well outside any target and until the suburbanisation of the
    1950s entirely rural.

    Nevertheless there was a bomb crater in that field.

    We are still 20 miles from central London! The Germans were said to
    target the Vauxhall works at Luton (then making light tanks) which took
    them over us. It was also said that they used the area North of London
    to gain altitude so the actual bombing run was at maximum speed to get through the AA fire.

    I think it was the Germans that discovered that bombing from a shallow dive gave more accurate results than level bombing. ISTR it was something like a
    5 degree dive (compared to a 3 degree glide slope for landing).

    I don't think the village was ever targeted, the few craters were likely caused by releases to lighten the aircraft.>

    There was a fair amount of that!

    No. 1 Group of Bomber Command had a policy of always carrying the maximum
    bomb load that was allowed by the fuel requirements of the mission, tested
    by loading up a Lancaster until something broke - which was the
    undercarriage. As a result of the policy of overloading, aircraft flew
    badly and couldnrCOt gain the planned height by the time they crossed the
    Dutch coast.

    As a result many crews jettisoned some, or sometimes all, of their bomb
    load into the North Sea, the bombers route showing from the trail of incendiaries that were dumped.
    --
    Spike
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sat Jun 27 19:43:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 27/06/2026 10:23, Timatmarford wrote:
    I don't think the village was ever targeted, the few craters were likely caused by releases to lighten the aircraft

    From what I have read of WWII high altitude bombing accuracy, intended targets made very little difference.

    They just dropped bombs 'in the general direction' and hoped
    --
    In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act.

    - George Orwell

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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 00:14:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 27/06/2026 10:01, Chris J Dixon wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    People these days don't realise how little 'new' stuff there was and how
    much it actually cost.

    We lived on second hand furniture and hand-me-downs. During covid I
    dismantled some of my grandmothers home made quilts, stuffed with
    chicken feathers from her chickens. These dated to the 1930s.

    When my parents' CC41 (1) bed was eventually replaced, I
    acquired some of the timber. One of its main beams has been
    supporting my workbench for over 50 years.

    (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CC41

    And Utility furniture was very well made. We had a second-hand utility
    dining table right up until around 1980.
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Jim the Geordie@jim@geordieland.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 00:43:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    In article <YOY%R.395$Iymb.44@fx17.ams1>, not@home.com says...

    On 27/06/2026 10:01, Chris J Dixon wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    People these days don't realise how little 'new' stuff there was and how >> much it actually cost.

    We lived on second hand furniture and hand-me-downs. During covid I
    dismantled some of my grandmothers home made quilts, stuffed with
    chicken feathers from her chickens. These dated to the 1930s.

    When my parents' CC41 (1) bed was eventually replaced, I
    acquired some of the timber. One of its main beams has been
    supporting my workbench for over 50 years.

    (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CC41

    And Utility furniture was very well made. We had a second-hand utility dining table right up until around 1980.

    As I recall the 'logo' was like a pacman biting another pacman 'CC'
    --
    Jim the Geordie
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  • From JNugent@JNugent73@mail.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 11:14:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 26/06/2026 12:21 PM, Marland wrote:
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 in message <7hl1hm-rd2.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> Chris Green wrote:

    And me, but I don't remember the first.

    Oh, I do, hearing all the sombre reporting of the king's deat on the
    radio. Then the coronation for which (among other things) we had
    bought a television to watch. I was quite youg, about seven.

    We lived in Brockley, SE4, then. I was 5 and we bought a TV, 9" black and
    white, to watch the coronation. The new queen actually drove past our
    house and we waved from the balcony. Tommy Steele did the same most days,
    much more exciting :-)


    CanrCOt go back that far, but in 1959 we were marched across the playing field adjacent to my Primary School in Chiswick to the edge of what most still called The Great West Road , from there we waved at President Eisenhower going past in an open top Rolls. Later research to pinpoint the date has shown he requested an open vehicle and the Government had to
    borrow one off a businessman as the official car pool only had saloons.
    Often when people used to ask my age but I didnrCOt want to be too precise I used to reply ,old enough to have ridden on the Trolleybuses but not the Trams.
    For a decade or more though younger people have queried rCLWhatrCOs a Trolleybus?rCY.

    We never had trolleybuses in Liverpool, though I think I can remember
    them in Brighton (family visits, mid-1950s). But we did have trams and I
    can just remember riding on the number 6 (later replaced by the same
    number on busus).
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  • From JNugent@JNugent73@mail.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 11:18:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 26/06/2026 08:58 PM, alan_m wrote:
    On 25/06/2026 22:24, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 19:23:40 +0100, SH wrote:


    Yes I am really 54! I remember compuserve, BBSes and when teh sony
    walkman came out....

    And I know what the connection is between a audio cassette and a pencil! >>>
    Anyway, theres Theo who was born during the Thatcher years so he's
    definitely younger than me!

    And here am I, on my third monarch...

    But how many prime ministers :)

    Same number of monarchs here.

    PMs?

    19: Attlee / Churchill / Eden / MacMillan / Douglas-Home / Wilson /
    Heath / Wilson again / Callaghan / Thatcher / Major / Blair / Brown /
    Cameron / May / Johnson / Truss / Sunak / Starmer.
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  • From JNugent@JNugent73@mail.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 11:20:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/06/2026 12:43 AM, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    In article <YOY%R.395$Iymb.44@fx17.ams1>, not@home.com says...

    On 27/06/2026 10:01, Chris J Dixon wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    People these days don't realise how little 'new' stuff there was and how >>>> much it actually cost.

    We lived on second hand furniture and hand-me-downs. During covid I
    dismantled some of my grandmothers home made quilts, stuffed with
    chicken feathers from her chickens. These dated to the 1930s.

    When my parents' CC41 (1) bed was eventually replaced, I
    acquired some of the timber. One of its main beams has been
    supporting my workbench for over 50 years.

    (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CC41

    And Utility furniture was very well made. We had a second-hand utility
    dining table right up until around 1980.

    As I recall the 'logo' was like a pacman biting another pacman 'CC'

    I remember that on an iron bedstead frame. I assumed it was a trademark.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 11:21:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/06/2026 11:14, JNugent wrote:
    For a decade or more though younger people have queried rCLWhatrCOs a
    Trolleybus?rCY.

    We never had trolleybuses in Liverpool, though I think I can remember
    them in Brighton (family visits, mid-1950s). But we did have trams and I
    can just remember riding on the number 6 (later replaced by the same
    number on busus).

    I think we had them in south west London/Surrey, Kingston/Surbiton. I do
    not recall ever travelling on one.
    --
    rCLPolitics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.rCY
    rCo Groucho Marx

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  • From JNugent@JNugent73@mail.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 11:21:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/06/2026 12:43 AM, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    In article <YOY%R.395$Iymb.44@fx17.ams1>, not@home.com says...

    On 27/06/2026 10:01, Chris J Dixon wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    People these days don't realise how little 'new' stuff there was and how >>>> much it actually cost.

    We lived on second hand furniture and hand-me-downs. During covid I
    dismantled some of my grandmothers home made quilts, stuffed with
    chicken feathers from her chickens. These dated to the 1930s.

    When my parents' CC41 (1) bed was eventually replaced, I
    acquired some of the timber. One of its main beams has been
    supporting my workbench for over 50 years.

    (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CC41

    And Utility furniture was very well made. We had a second-hand utility
    dining table right up until around 1980.

    As I recall the 'logo' was like a pacman biting another pacman 'CC'

    <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186170615890>
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 11:31:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/06/2026 11:18, JNugent wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 08:58 PM, alan_m wrote:
    On 25/06/2026 22:24, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 19:23:40 +0100, SH wrote:


    Yes I am really 54! I remember compuserve, BBSes and when teh sony
    walkman came out....

    And I know what the connection is between a audio cassette and a
    pencil!

    Anyway, theres Theo who was born during the Thatcher years so he's
    definitely younger than me!

    And here am I, on my third monarch...

    But how many prime ministers :)

    Same number of monarchs here.

    PMs?

    19: Attlee / Churchill / Eden / MacMillan / Douglas-Home / Wilson /
    Heath / Wilson again / Callaghan / Thatcher / Major / Blair / Brown / Cameron / May / Johnson / Truss / Sunak / Starmer.

    Ditto.

    Looking at the list I can only think of two that I had any respect for whatsoever as peacetime PMs. Macmillan and Thatcher.

    They say Attlee was wonderful, but he gave away the British empire and
    created so many problems in the middle east....
    --
    rCLIdeas are inherently conservative. They yield not to the attack of
    other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"

    - John K Galbraith


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  • From JNugent@JNugent73@mail.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 11:38:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/06/2026 11:31 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/06/2026 11:18, JNugent wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 08:58 PM, alan_m wrote:
    On 25/06/2026 22:24, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 19:23:40 +0100, SH wrote:


    Yes I am really 54! I remember compuserve, BBSes and when teh sony
    walkman came out....

    And I know what the connection is between a audio cassette and a
    pencil!

    Anyway, theres Theo who was born during the Thatcher years so he's
    definitely younger than me!

    And here am I, on my third monarch...

    But how many prime ministers :)

    Same number of monarchs here.

    PMs?

    19: Attlee / Churchill / Eden / MacMillan / Douglas-Home / Wilson /
    Heath / Wilson again / Callaghan / Thatcher / Major / Blair / Brown /
    Cameron / May / Johnson / Truss / Sunak / Starmer.

    Ditto.

    Looking at the list I can only think of two that I had any respect for whatsoever as peacetime PMs. Macmillan and Thatcher.

    Now you mention it, my opinion is more or less the same.

    Wilson would be a distant third, I suppose. Entertainment value, at
    least. And Callaghan fourth.

    I never felt under threat from them as I did under Blair and Brown.

    They say Attlee was wonderful, but he gave away the British empire and created so many problems in the middle east....

    That had been Labour policy for some time? Exacerbated by Asian
    nationalist forces coming to the fore during WW2?
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  • From Bob Eager@throwaway0008@eager.cx to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 11:40:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 11:14:22 +0100, JNugent wrote:

    We never had trolleybuses in Liverpool, though I think I can remember
    them in Brighton (family visits, mid-1950s). But we did have trams and I
    can just remember riding on the number 6 (later replaced by the same
    number on busus).

    There were trams in Brighton until 1939. My mother remembered travelling
    on them. They were replaced by trolleybuses.

    It was a complicated arrangement. Brighton Corporation operated the trolleybuses, out of the old tram depot. Brighton, Hove and District
    Omnibus Company operated diesel buses (trolleys didn't enter Hove, heaven forfend). And the Southdown Motor Company operated longer range diesel
    buses.

    The trolleys were phased out in the very early 1960s, but I remember travelling on them. The last journey was done by bus FUF 1, which had also done the first journey. I think some of them went off to Bournemouth.
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  • From Tricky Dicky@tricky.dicky@sky.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 11:56:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 11:14:22 +0100, JNugent wrote:

    We never had trolleybuses in Liverpool, though I think I can remember
    them in Brighton (family visits, mid-1950s). But we did have trams and I
    can just remember riding on the number 6 (later replaced by the same
    number on busus).

    There were trams in Brighton until 1939. My mother remembered travelling
    on them. They were replaced by trolleybuses.

    It was a complicated arrangement. Brighton Corporation operated the trolleybuses, out of the old tram depot. Brighton, Hove and District
    Omnibus Company operated diesel buses (trolleys didn't enter Hove, heaven forfend). And the Southdown Motor Company operated longer range diesel buses.

    The trolleys were phased out in the very early 1960s, but I remember travelling on them. The last journey was done by bus FUF 1, which had also done the first journey. I think some of them went off to Bournemouth.


    I remember seeing trams in Leeds in the 50rCOs but never rode one. The very last trolley busses in the UK were in Bradford in 1972.

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  • From Andrew@Andrew97d@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 15:21:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 23/06/2026 17:46, SH wrote:
    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    Chronological or Biological ? :-)
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  • From Chris J Dixon@chris@cdixon.me.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 16:58:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Jim the Geordie wrote:

    In article <YOY%R.395$Iymb.44@fx17.ams1>, not@home.com says...

    On 27/06/2026 10:01, Chris J Dixon wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    People these days don't realise how little 'new' stuff there was and how >> >> much it actually cost.

    We lived on second hand furniture and hand-me-downs. During covid I
    dismantled some of my grandmothers home made quilts, stuffed with
    chicken feathers from her chickens. These dated to the 1930s.

    When my parents' CC41 (1) bed was eventually replaced, I
    acquired some of the timber. One of its main beams has been
    supporting my workbench for over 50 years.

    (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CC41

    And Utility furniture was very well made. We had a second-hand utility
    dining table right up until around 1980.

    As I recall the 'logo' was like a pacman biting another pacman 'CC'

    Indeed so, exactly as shown in my link above.

    Chris
    --
    Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK
    chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1

    Plant amazing Acers.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Mon Jun 29 03:20:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 20:31:00 +1000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/06/2026 11:18, JNugent wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 08:58 PM, alan_m wrote:
    On 25/06/2026 22:24, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 19:23:40 +0100, SH wrote:


    Yes I am really 54! I remember compuserve, BBSes and when teh sony
    walkman came out....

    And I know what the connection is between a audio cassette and a
    pencil!

    Anyway, theres Theo who was born during the Thatcher years so he's
    definitely younger than me!

    And here am I, on my third monarch...

    But how many prime ministers :)
    Same number of monarchs here.
    PMs?
    19: Attlee / Churchill / Eden / MacMillan / Douglas-Home / Wilson /
    Heath / Wilson again / Callaghan / Thatcher / Major / Blair / Brown /
    Cameron / May / Johnson / Truss / Sunak / Starmer.

    Ditto.

    Looking at the list I can only think of two that I had any respect for whatsoever as peacetime PMs. Macmillan and Thatcher.

    They say Attlee was wonderful, but he gave away the British empire

    There was no alternative given britain had been bankrupted by WW2

    and created so many problems in the middle east....
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  • From Max Demian@max_demian@bigfoot.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 18:39:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/06/2026 15:21, Andrew wrote:
    On 23/06/2026 17:46, SH wrote:
    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    Chronological or Biological ? :-)

    Emotional maturity?
    --
    Max Demian
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 19:52:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/06/2026 15:21, Andrew wrote:
    On 23/06/2026 17:46, SH wrote:
    Following on from the "A Step too far for DIY - Cooker thread"

    I thought it would be illuminating to see who's the youngest and the
    oldest on here?

    I'll kick off with:

    54!

    Chronological or Biological ? :-)

    Hexadecimal?, Octal?
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From JNugent@JNugent73@mail.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 21:28:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/06/2026 12:40 PM, Bob Eager wrote:

    On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 11:14:22 +0100, JNugent wrote:

    We never had trolleybuses in Liverpool, though I think I can remember
    them in Brighton (family visits, mid-1950s). But we did have trams and I
    can just remember riding on the number 6 (later replaced by the same
    number on busus).

    There were trams in Brighton until 1939. My mother remembered travelling
    on them. They were replaced by trolleybuses.

    Trolleybuses would have been my era there on holidays with family,
    1950s: 1956 and 1958, to be precise. My memory of the place was that of
    a magical strip between the Pier and Rottingdean. The relatives lived in
    one of those prefabs in Woodingdean and we took two buses each way,
    affording a grand view of all the amusements between the coast road and
    the beach. And there was the fountain in the Stein, with its changing
    coloured lighting.

    It was a complicated arrangement. Brighton Corporation operated the trolleybuses, out of the old tram depot. Brighton, Hove and District
    Omnibus Company operated diesel buses (trolleys didn't enter Hove, heaven forfend). And the Southdown Motor Company operated longer range diesel
    buses.

    The trolleys were phased out in the very early 1960s, but I remember travelling on them. The last journey was done by bus FUF 1, which had also done the first journey. I think some of them went off to Bournemouth.

    Interesting stuff. I'm sure we only used "ordinary" buses, but some of
    them were... er... topless.
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  • From Bob Eager@throwaway0008@eager.cx to uk.d-i-y on Sun Jun 28 20:42:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 21:28:09 +0100, JNugent wrote:

    Interesting stuff. I'm sure we only used "ordinary" buses, but some of
    them were... er... topless.

    There wasn't a trolley route along the coast; the infrastructure was never built. It mainly served inland residential areas.

    The topless bus would have been a number 17 and was probably cream/white.

    Did you see the policemen in summer white helmets? That was a Brighton
    thing.
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  • From Marland@gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Mon Jun 29 13:18:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y


    On 28/06/2026 12:40 PM, Bob Eager wrote:



    Trolleybuses would have been my era there on holidays with family,
    1950s: 1956 and 1958, to be precise. My memory of the place was that of
    a magical strip between the Pier and Rottingdean. The relatives lived in
    one of those prefabs in Woodingdean and we took two buses each way, affording a grand view of all the amusements between the coast road and
    the beach. And there was the fountain in the Stein, with its changing coloured lighting.

    It was a complicated arrangement. Brighton Corporation operated the
    trolleybuses, out of the old tram depot. Brighton, Hove and District
    Omnibus Company operated diesel buses (trolleys didn't enter Hove, heaven
    forfend).

    They did , Brighton Hove and District owned some for a joint through
    service from Hove to Brighton
    but the route ceased before the rest of Brightons.

    The trolleys were phased out in the very early 1960s, but I remember
    travelling on them. The last journey was done by bus FUF 1, which had also >> done the first journey. I think some of them went off to Bournemouth.


    Bournemouth was still buying new as well ,they had the UkrCOs last service
    one delivered in 1962.
    The other half had an older cousin who was a clippy on the Bournemouth
    Trolleys who told us about her work in them, apparently replacing the
    collector poles after a dewirement on a cold wet night
    with rain pouring into your eyes could be a challenge.

    GH
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  • From Marland@gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Mon Jun 29 13:18:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 12:21 PM, Marland wrote:

    used to reply ,old enough to have ridden on the Trolleybuses but not the >> Trams.
    For a decade or more though younger people have queried rCLWhatrCOs a
    Trolleybus?rCY.

    We never had trolleybuses in Liverpool, though I think I can remember
    them in Brighton (family visits, mid-1950s). But we did have trams and I
    can just remember riding on the number 6 (later replaced by the same
    number on busus).


    My initial comment was about the early years of my life in West London, but funnily enough having relatives in Sussex I did see Trolleybuses in
    Brighton, plus a few other places. Dad worked with a firm who was involved
    in supplying some equipment to the round of Nuclear Power stations that
    were being constructed so he often stuck a weekend away onto a site visit
    so we travelled to a few places.
    It was on of those I was actually taken for a ride on a Glasgow tram as
    they were the last UK City system which was about to finish. I wish now I knew what his role was ,worked for a firm called Wallis and Tiernan . We
    were all set to move with the firm to Tonbridge but the big C got him
    first.
    As an aside the premises they were vacating in Chiswick they sold to
    a then little known Japanese Motor cycle manufacturer which the adults
    around me were quite disparaging of as some still held strong views on the Japanese and their role in WW2 and thought nobody would buy them.Honda has
    come along way since then.

    GH
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  • From JNugent@JNugent73@mail.com to uk.d-i-y on Mon Jun 29 15:54:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/06/2026 09:42 PM, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 21:28:09 +0100, JNugent wrote:

    Interesting stuff. I'm sure we only used "ordinary" buses, but some of
    them were... er... topless.

    There wasn't a trolley route along the coast; the infrastructure was never built. It mainly served inland residential areas.

    The topless bus would have been a number 17 and was probably cream/white.

    Did you see the policemen in summer white helmets? That was a Brighton
    thing.

    I didn't notice, and this would have been late July into August.

    I *have* seen those white helmets in Rome, though.

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  • From Jim the Geordie@jim@geordieland.com to uk.d-i-y on Mon Jun 29 16:48:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    In article <naf9m3Fruu2U2@mid.individual.net>,
    gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk says...

    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 12:21 PM, Marland wrote:

    used to reply ,old enough to have ridden on the Trolleybuses but not the >> Trams.
    For a decade or more though younger people have queried ?What?s a
    Trolleybus??.

    We never had trolleybuses in Liverpool, though I think I can remember
    them in Brighton (family visits, mid-1950s). But we did have trams and I can just remember riding on the number 6 (later replaced by the same number on busus).


    My initial comment was about the early years of my life in West London, but funnily enough having relatives in Sussex I did see Trolleybuses in Brighton, plus a few other places. Dad worked with a firm who was involved in supplying some equipment to the round of Nuclear Power stations that
    were being constructed so he often stuck a weekend away onto a site visit
    so we travelled to a few places.
    It was on of those I was actually taken for a ride on a Glasgow tram as
    they were the last UK City system which was about to finish. I wish now I knew what his role was ,worked for a firm called Wallis and Tiernan . We
    were all set to move with the firm to Tonbridge but the big C got him
    first.
    As an aside the premises they were vacating in Chiswick they sold to
    a then little known Japanese Motor cycle manufacturer which the adults
    around me were quite disparaging of as some still held strong views on the Japanese and their role in WW2 and thought nobody would buy them.Honda has come along way since then.

    GH

    Newcastle had trams until 1950 and I have an early memory of seeing one
    (aged ~4), but no recollection of riding in one.
    Trolley buses ran there until 1966 and were continually coming off the overhead wire. The driver/conductor used a long pole stored under the
    vehicle to hook it back on again.
    I lived in Nottingham in the early 60s and the only thing I remember
    (being a physicist) was that appeared to short the dynamo to assist with braking. They stopped running in 1966 too.
    --
    Jim the Geordie
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.d-i-y on Mon Jun 29 18:15:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 29 Jun 2026 13:18:59 GMT, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk>
    wrote:

    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 12:21 PM, Marland wrote:

    used to reply ,old enough to have ridden on the Trolleybuses but not the >>> Trams.
    For a decade or more though younger people have queried oWhatAs a
    Trolleybus?o.

    We never had trolleybuses in Liverpool, though I think I can remember
    them in Brighton (family visits, mid-1950s). But we did have trams and I
    can just remember riding on the number 6 (later replaced by the same
    number on busus).


    My initial comment was about the early years of my life in West London, but >funnily enough having relatives in Sussex I did see Trolleybuses in >Brighton, plus a few other places. Dad worked with a firm who was involved >in supplying some equipment to the round of Nuclear Power stations that
    were being constructed so he often stuck a weekend away onto a site visit
    so we travelled to a few places.
    It was on of those I was actually taken for a ride on a Glasgow tram as
    they were the last UK City system which was about to finish. I wish now I >knew what his role was ,worked for a firm called Wallis and Tiernan . We
    were all set to move with the firm to Tonbridge but the big C got him
    first.
    As an aside the premises they were vacating in Chiswick they sold to
    a then little known Japanese Motor cycle manufacturer which the adults
    around me were quite disparaging of as some still held strong views on the >Japanese and their role in WW2 and thought nobody would buy them.Honda has >come along way since then.

    Pah! Those Japanese upstarts! They'll never last, we'd say. The
    engines rev far too fast: they'll be on the scrapheap in no time at
    all, we'd say. Nothing could possibly replace the solidity and
    heritage of our fine British mounts, we'd say.

    Then we'd turn back to spending the rest of the weekend trying to fix
    the faults on my mate's Triumph and on my BSA. Somehow we never saw
    the irony of it at the time.

    Nick
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  • From Charles Hope@clh@candehope.me.uk to uk.d-i-y on Mon Jun 29 20:15:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 29/06/2026 16:48, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    In article <naf9m3Fruu2U2@mid.individual.net>,
    gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk says...

    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 12:21 PM, Marland wrote:

    used to reply ,old enough to have ridden on the Trolleybuses but not the >>>> Trams.
    For a decade or more though younger people have queried ?What?s a
    Trolleybus??.

    We never had trolleybuses in Liverpool, though I think I can remember
    them in Brighton (family visits, mid-1950s). But we did have trams and I >>> can just remember riding on the number 6 (later replaced by the same
    number on busus).


    My initial comment was about the early years of my life in West London, but >> funnily enough having relatives in Sussex I did see Trolleybuses in
    Brighton, plus a few other places. Dad worked with a firm who was involved >> in supplying some equipment to the round of Nuclear Power stations that
    were being constructed so he often stuck a weekend away onto a site visit
    so we travelled to a few places.
    It was on of those I was actually taken for a ride on a Glasgow tram as
    they were the last UK City system which was about to finish. I wish now I >> knew what his role was ,worked for a firm called Wallis and Tiernan . We
    were all set to move with the firm to Tonbridge but the big C got him
    first.
    As an aside the premises they were vacating in Chiswick they sold to
    a then little known Japanese Motor cycle manufacturer which the adults
    around me were quite disparaging of as some still held strong views on the >> Japanese and their role in WW2 and thought nobody would buy them.Honda has >> come along way since then.

    GH

    Newcastle had trams until 1950 and I have an early memory of seeing one
    (aged ~4), but no recollection of riding in one.
    Trolley buses ran there until 1966 and were continually coming off the overhead wire. The driver/conductor used a long pole stored under the
    vehicle to hook it back on again.
    I lived in Nottingham in the early 60s and the only thing I remember
    (being a physicist) was that appeared to short the dynamo to assist with braking. They stopped running in 1966 too.

    Edinburgh had trams until 1956. I used one (actually 2) to get to school
    at times. We (the family) went on one to watch the fireworks to mark
    the birth of the young Prince Charles. The upper deck gave a good view.

    Of course, Edinburgh has trams again, but they are single deckers.

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  • From brian@nospam@b-howie.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Tue Jun 30 05:48:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    In message <nacafuFcmp4U1@mid.individual.net>, JNugent
    <JNugent73@mail.com> writes
    On 26/06/2026 12:21 PM, Marland wrote:
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 in message <7hl1hm-rd2.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> Chris Green wrote: >>>
    And me, but I don't remember the first.

    Oh, I do, hearing all the sombre reporting of the king's deat on the
    radio. Then the coronation for which (among other things) we had
    bought a television to watch. I was quite youg, about seven.

    We lived in Brockley, SE4, then. I was 5 and we bought a TV, 9" black and >>> white, to watch the coronation. The new queen actually drove past our
    house and we waved from the balcony. Tommy Steele did the same most days, >>> much more exciting :-)


    CanrCOt go back that far, but in 1959 we were marched across the playing
    field adjacent to my Primary School in Chiswick to the edge of what most
    still called The Great West Road , from there we waved at President
    Eisenhower going past in an open top Rolls. Later research to pinpoint the >> date has shown he requested an open vehicle and the Government had to
    borrow one off a businessman as the official car pool only had saloons.
    Often when people used to ask my age but I didnrCOt want to be too precise I
    used to reply ,old enough to have ridden on the Trolleybuses but not the >> Trams.
    For a decade or more though younger people have queried rCLWhatrCOs a
    Trolleybus?rCY.

    We never had trolleybuses in Liverpool, though I think I can remember
    them in Brighton (family visits, mid-1950s). But we did have trams and
    I can just remember riding on the number 6 (later replaced by the same >number on busus).

    Trolley buses ran in Glasgow until the mid 60s.

    I also vaguely remember going to Edinburgh Zoo in a tram ( 1st
    generation)

    Brian
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    Brian Howie
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  • From Charles Hope@clh@candehope.me.uk to uk.d-i-y on Tue Jun 30 10:00:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 30/06/2026 05:48, brian wrote:
    In message <nacafuFcmp4U1@mid.individual.net>, JNugent
    <JNugent73@mail.com> writes
    On 26/06/2026 12:21 PM, Marland wrote:
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 26/06/2026 in message <7hl1hm-rd2.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> Chris Green
    wrote:

    And me, but I don't remember the first.

    Oh, I do, hearing all the sombre reporting of the king's deat on the >>>>> radio.-a Then the coronation for which (among other things) we had
    bought a television to watch.-a I was quite youg, about seven.

    We lived in Brockley, SE4, then. I was 5 and we bought a TV, 9"
    black and
    white, to watch the coronation. The new queen actually drove past our
    house and we waved from the balcony. Tommy Steele did the same most
    days,
    much more exciting :-)


    CanrCOt go back that far, but in 1959 we were marched across the playing >>> field adjacent to my Primary School in Chiswick to the edge of what most >>> still called The Great West Road , from there we waved at President
    Eisenhower going past in an open top Rolls. Later research to
    pinpoint-a the
    date has shown he requested an open vehicle and the Government had to
    borrow one off a businessman as the official car pool only had saloons.
    Often when people used to ask my age-a but I didnrCOt want to be too
    precise I
    used to-a reply-a ,old enough to have ridden on the Trolleybuses but
    not the
    Trams.
    For a decade or more though younger people have queried rCLWhatrCOs a
    Trolleybus?rCY.

    We never had trolleybuses in Liverpool, though I think I can remember
    them in Brighton (family visits, mid-1950s). But we did have trams and
    I can just remember riding on the number 6 (later replaced by the same
    number on busus).

    Trolley buses ran in Glasgow until the mid 60s.

    I also vaguely remember going to Edinburgh Zoo in a tram ( 1st generation)

    Brian


    yes, there were 4 routes that went to ZooPark (1, 12 25 & 26). They
    passed the end of our road in Roseburn.
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  • From Indy Jess John@bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Jul 3 00:59:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/06/2026 11:21, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/06/2026 11:14, JNugent wrote:
    For a decade or more though younger people have queried rCLWhatrCOs a
    Trolleybus?rCY.

    We never had trolleybuses in Liverpool, though I think I can remember
    them in Brighton (family visits, mid-1950s). But we did have trams and
    I can just remember riding on the number 6 (later replaced by the same
    number on busus).

    I think we had them in south west London/Surrey, Kingston/Surbiton. I do
    not recall ever travelling on one.


    There were trolleybuses in east London as normal transport for me to use
    in the 1950s. They were replaced some time in the early 1960s because
    there were none left by the time I finished school in 1966.



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