• Live cable in wall

    From Dave Barnes@a@b.com to uk.d-i-y on Mon Jun 22 19:37:23 2026
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    Decorating the main bedroom and came across this hidden in the wall:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zigahrskqVX8zt5p6LE-qPLMrrB0zjvA/view?usp=sharing

    (photo shows a 12V LED driver and a lighting junction box)

    I can't get to the far end to cut the power off at source and remove
    the cable so, although it may not be 'best practice' is it at least
    legal to disconnect the LED driver and just leave the energised T&E
    somehow 'capped off', whether that be by means of the existing junction
    box in the photo, or by Wago connectors, or by heat-shrink sleeving?

    If so, what's the preferred method?
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Mon Jun 22 19:47:26 2026
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    Dave Barnes wrote:

    I can't get to the far end to cut the power off at source and remove the cable so, although it may not be 'best practice' is it at least legal to disconnect the LED driver and just leave the energised T&E somehow
    'capped off',

    Looks like the mains cable leaves that hole going upwards? Presumably
    there isn't a light switch, or mains socket aligned with it? If not
    then it isn't within a safe zone, and it doesn't look like it can be
    more than 50mm from the surface of that Paramount Board.

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  • From Dave Barnes@a@b.com to uk.d-i-y on Mon Jun 22 20:22:49 2026
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    Andy Burns was thinking very hard :
    Dave Barnes wrote:

    I can't get to the far end to cut the power off at source and remove the
    cable so, although it may not be 'best practice' is it at least legal to
    disconnect the LED driver and just leave the energised T&E somehow 'capped >> off',

    Looks like the mains cable leaves that hole going upwards? Presumably there isn't a light switch, or mains socket aligned with it? If not then it isn't
    within a safe zone, and it doesn't look like it can be more than 50mm from the surface of that Paramount Board.

    Yes, it does go upwards to a pull switch on the ceiling.

    The 'headboard' of the bed was a 7ft wide x 5ft tall sheet of wood
    fastened to the wall and this was behind it when we took it off.

    And there's the answer isn't it? Staring me in the face all the time -
    just disconnect at the pull switch!

    I've had a long hard day today and what is obvious now wasn't before,
    so cheers Andy, thanks lol
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Mon Jun 22 20:42:58 2026
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    On 22/06/2026 20:22, Dave Barnes wrote:
    Andy Burns was thinking very hard :
    Dave Barnes wrote:

    I can't get to the far end to cut the power off at source and remove the >>> cable so, although it may not be 'best practice' is it at least legal to >>> disconnect the LED driver and just leave the energised T&E somehow 'capped >>> off',

    Looks like the mains cable leaves that hole going upwards? Presumably there >> isn't a light switch, or mains socket aligned with it? If not then it isn't
    within a safe zone, and it doesn't look like it can be more than 50mm from >> the surface of that Paramount Board.

    Yes, it does go upwards to a pull switch on the ceiling.

    The 'headboard' of the bed was a 7ft wide x 5ft tall sheet of wood
    fastened to the wall and this was behind it when we took it off.

    And there's the answer isn't it? Staring me in the face all the time -
    just disconnect at the pull switch!

    I assume it's not a double-pole pull switch, so the question is whether
    it's the live or neutral which is switched. If it's the live, fine, just disconnect it. If it's the neutral, then disconnecting it will leave the
    rest of the wiring to the junction box and led power supply live unless
    you disconnect the live wire too.

    I've had a long hard day today and what is obvious now wasn't before,
    so cheers Andy, thanks lol

    Many years ago after we moved in I found an apparently blank cover plate
    in the lounge. On it was a paper label stating "circuit is
    disconnected". When I examined it I found it wasn't a blank, but the
    label was covering an old round 3-pin lighting socket. I took it off and checked the wiring to the socket. It was live!
    --
    Jeff
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  • From SH@i.love@spam.com to uk.d-i-y on Tue Jun 23 17:49:13 2026
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    On 22/06/2026 19:37, Dave Barnes wrote:
    Decorating the main bedroom and came across this hidden in the wall:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zigahrskqVX8zt5p6LE-qPLMrrB0zjvA/view? usp=sharing

    (photo shows a 12V LED driver and a lighting junction box)

    I can't get to the far end to cut the power off at source and remove the cable so, although it may not be 'best practice' is it at least legal to disconnect the LED driver and just leave the energised T&E somehow
    'capped off', whether that be by means of the existing junction box in
    the photo, or by Wago connectors, or by heat-shrink sleeving?

    If so, what's the preferred method?


    looks like a cable was dropped down from the loft? might be worth going
    into the loft and see if a T&E cable comes out into the loft above the
    wall? you will probably find it will trace back to a room ceiling
    lighting rose....
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