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Fettling the motor home.
Last year I broke the cover off the Y adapter which allows 2 devices to
share a 16A lead on a camp site.

It is a cheap alternative to having an external 13A socket fitted (which
we had in our caravan).

I bought a replacement, and am now looking at the original to see if I can
fix it.

It should be OK is the cable from the camp site supply goes into the one
with the broken flap, as this forms a seal.
However not having the cable connected to this side is an accident waiting
to happen, I think.

I started out looking for a replacement flap, but then thought if I could
get a plug with a male one end and female the other this could be
permanently fitted.

<https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CDGQQ1S6?th=1> is the Y fitting.

Then again, at -u10.59 why am I even bothering?

Cheers



Dave R
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David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

Fettling the motor home.
Last year I broke the cover off the Y adapter which allows 2 devices to share a 16A lead on a camp site.

It is a cheap alternative to having an external 13A socket fitted (which
we had in our caravan).

I bought a replacement, and am now looking at the original to see if I can fix it.

It should be OK is the cable from the camp site supply goes into the one with the broken flap, as this forms a seal.
However not having the cable connected to this side is an accident waiting to happen, I think.

I started out looking for a replacement flap, but then thought if I could get a plug with a male one end and female the other this could be permanently fitted.

<https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CDGQQ1S6?th=1> is the Y fitting.

Then again, at -u10.59 why am I even bothering?

Cheers

Dave R

DoesnrCOt the one without the flap originally ( the rCybaserCO of the Y ) have pins and accepts the lead from the bollard. The end which plugs into that
point should have a flap and female connectors. The other end of the EHU
lead- the bollard end- has pins. The bollard has female connectors.

I assume you have a short lead from one top branch of the Y to the input of
the Motorhome. Just use the broken branch first. When you want to have
power outside, use the one with the flap.

That said SOME site wardens object to the use of such connectors or even connecting two EHU leads together.

I never had a problem but IrCOve seen a few rCydiscussionsrCO on sites.

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On 17/05/2026 22:49, Brian wrote:

David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

Fettling the motor home.
Last year I broke the cover off the Y adapter which allows 2 devices to
share a 16A lead on a camp site.

It is a cheap alternative to having an external 13A socket fitted (which
we had in our caravan).

I bought a replacement, and am now looking at the original to see if I can >> fix it.

It should be OK is the cable from the camp site supply goes into the one
with the broken flap, as this forms a seal.
However not having the cable connected to this side is an accident waiting >> to happen, I think.

I started out looking for a replacement flap, but then thought if I could
get a plug with a male one end and female the other this could be
permanently fitted.

<https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CDGQQ1S6?th=1> is the Y fitting.

Then again, at -u10.59 why am I even bothering?

Cheers



Dave R

DoesnrCOt the one without the flap originally ( the rCybaserCO of the Y ) have
pins and accepts the lead from the bollard. The end which plugs into that point should have a flap and female connectors. The other end of the EHU lead- the bollard end- has pins. The bollard has female connectors.

I assume you have a short lead from one top branch of the Y to the input of the Motorhome. Just use the broken branch first. When you want to have
power outside, use the one with the flap.

That said SOME site wardens object to the use of such connectors or even connecting two EHU leads together.

I never had a problem but IrCOve seen a few rCydiscussionsrCO on sites.

Especially if the second 'device' is car charging.
The big increase in demand thus caused is upending the economics of
supply to each pitch and means the whole site needs to be rewired to
carry that increased demand.
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On 17/05/2026 20:32, David wrote:

Fettling the motor home.
Last year I broke the cover off the Y adapter which allows 2 devices to
share a 16A lead on a camp site.

It is a cheap alternative to having an external 13A socket fitted (which
we had in our caravan).

I bought a replacement, and am now looking at the original to see if I can fix it.

It should be OK is the cable from the camp site supply goes into the one
with the broken flap, as this forms a seal.
However not having the cable connected to this side is an accident waiting
to happen, I think.

I started out looking for a replacement flap, but then thought if I could
get a plug with a male one end and female the other this could be
permanently fitted.

<https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CDGQQ1S6?th=1> is the Y fitting.

Then again, at -u10.59 why am I even bothering?

Cheers

Dave R

Be mindful that not all goods coming in from certain countries comply
with our safety laws or have UKCA marking & audit trail.

For this reason alone I refuse to buy rechargeable batteries or USB
chargers from companies whose names sound foreign and where they have a different H&S culture to us.

I always try to buy from know provenance such as Anker or Belkin or Startech....

I also steer clear of Temu, JD, Aliexpress. There are drop shippers on
both eBay and Amazon who resell at a decent mark up stuff that has come
from Temu, JD or AliExpress....

I know I end up paying more but better than a death or a burnt down home....


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SH wrote:

I refuse to buy rechargeable batteries [...] from companies
whose names sound foreign

I avoid the ones with branding that's more appropriate for pyrotechnics.
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Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

On 17/05/2026 22:49, Brian wrote:

David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

Fettling the motor home.
Last year I broke the cover off the Y adapter which allows 2 devices to
share a 16A lead on a camp site.

It is a cheap alternative to having an external 13A socket fitted (which >>> we had in our caravan).

I bought a replacement, and am now looking at the original to see if I can >>> fix it.

It should be OK is the cable from the camp site supply goes into the one >>> with the broken flap, as this forms a seal.
However not having the cable connected to this side is an accident waiting >>> to happen, I think.

I started out looking for a replacement flap, but then thought if I could >>> get a plug with a male one end and female the other this could be
permanently fitted.

<https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CDGQQ1S6?th=1> is the Y fitting.

Then again, at -u10.59 why am I even bothering?

Cheers



Dave R

DoesnrCOt the one without the flap originally ( the rCybaserCO of the Y ) have
pins and accepts the lead from the bollard. The end which plugs into that
point should have a flap and female connectors. The other end of the EHU
lead- the bollard end- has pins. The bollard has female connectors.

I assume you have a short lead from one top branch of the Y to the input of >> the Motorhome. Just use the broken branch first. When you want to have
power outside, use the one with the flap.

That said SOME site wardens object to the use of such connectors or even
connecting two EHU leads together.

I never had a problem but IrCOve seen a few rCydiscussionsrCO on sites.

Especially if the second 'device' is car charging.
The big increase in demand thus caused is upending the economics of
supply to each pitch and means the whole site needs to be rewired to
carry that increased demand.

While IrCOve never looked into the detail*, I understand if you what to
charge an EV / hybrid on your pitch, it must be connected via your caravan
or motorhome, not direct to a bollard. Plus one Club charges -u9 per day
extra.

*While we do, occasionally, take the hybrid ( we normally tow Senior ManagementrCOs Aygo on a trailer but now and then, she follows in the Rav).
The beauty of a hybrid is you donrCOt need to charge away from home and pay silly money for the privilege. I only charge on Economy 7.



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On Mon, 18 May 2026 07:53:54 +0100, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

On 17/05/2026 20:32, David wrote:

Fettling the motor home.
Last year I broke the cover off the Y adapter which allows 2 devices to
share a 16A lead on a camp site.

It is a cheap alternative to having an external 13A socket fitted (which
we had in our caravan).

I bought a replacement, and am now looking at the original to see if I can >> fix it.

It should be OK is the cable from the camp site supply goes into the one
with the broken flap, as this forms a seal.
However not having the cable connected to this side is an accident waiting >> to happen, I think.

I started out looking for a replacement flap, but then thought if I could
get a plug with a male one end and female the other this could be
permanently fitted.

<https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CDGQQ1S6?th=1> is the Y fitting.

Then again, at u10.59 why am I even bothering?

Cheers



Dave R

Be mindful that not all goods coming in from certain countries comply
with our safety laws or have UKCA marking & audit trail.

For this reason alone I refuse to buy rechargeable batteries or USB
chargers from companies whose names sound foreign and where they have a >different H&S culture to us.

I always try to buy from know provenance such as Anker or Belkin or >Startech....

I also steer clear of Temu, JD, Aliexpress. There are drop shippers on
both eBay and Amazon who resell at a decent mark up stuff that has come
from Temu, JD or AliExpress....

I know I end up paying more but better than a death or a burnt down home....

But to look at it another way, isn't there the old adage that they
probably come out of the same factory and you are just paying extra
for the brand name?
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Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

On Mon, 18 May 2026 07:53:54 +0100, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

Be mindful that not all goods coming in from certain countries comply
with our safety laws or have UKCA marking & audit trail.

For this reason alone I refuse to buy rechargeable batteries or USB >chargers from companies whose names sound foreign and where they have a >different H&S culture to us.

I always try to buy from know provenance such as Anker or Belkin or >Startech....

I also steer clear of Temu, JD, Aliexpress. There are drop shippers on >both eBay and Amazon who resell at a decent mark up stuff that has come >from Temu, JD or AliExpress....

I know I end up paying more but better than a death or a burnt down home....

But to look at it another way, isn't there the old adage that they
probably come out of the same factory and you are just paying extra
for the brand name?

It's an adage, but it's a lazy one.

First of all, the design is likely to be different. eg Tesco Value Sausages (40% meat) and Tesco Finest Sausages (100% meat) might be made in the same factory but the ingredients and recipe are different.

Secondly, brands may have strict agreements on factories not also making competitor products. Apple's iPhone factories, while under contract to
Apple, don't also make knockoff iPhones to sell on the grey market.

Now, there are a few cases where it might be true. One is a brand just slapping their label on a product from an Original Design Manufacturer (ODM)
- the brand just went on Alibaba, found a pre-existing product and ordered a few thousand in the brand's colour scheme and logo. In which case, you can often tell because the product is otherwise identical to the ODM product. (it's a fun game to search Alibaba and see if you can spot a match)

The other is if the brand contracts with a factory to produce XXXX units,
and the factory steals the design and runs a nightshift or a second line to produce YYYY units to sell on the grey market. But since this is illegal there's no guarantee that the components used in the grey products are to
the same spec as those in the official products - perhaps they are rejects. Maybe knockoff Tesco Finest sausages contain horse meat: when you're
committing crime it makes more money to commit extra crime.

For power supplies, I'd look to see if Big Clive or someone like that has done a teardown video - you can usually tell quality by the physical
construction.

Theo
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On Mon, 18 May 2026 11:57:49 +0100, Theo wrote:

Now, there are a few cases where it might be true. One is a brand just slapping their label on a product from an Original Design Manufacturer
(ODM)
- the brand just went on Alibaba, found a pre-existing product and
ordered a few thousand in the brand's colour scheme and logo. In which
case, you can often tell because the product is otherwise identical to
the ODM product. (it's a fun game to search Alibaba and see if you can
spot a match)

See also the Trump phone.
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On Sun, 17 May 2026 21:49:51 +0000, Brian wrote:

David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

Fettling the motor home.
Last year I broke the cover off the Y adapter which allows 2 devices to
share a 16A lead on a camp site.

It is a cheap alternative to having an external 13A socket fitted
(which we had in our caravan).

I bought a replacement, and am now looking at the original to see if I
can fix it.

It should be OK is the cable from the camp site supply goes into the
one with the broken flap, as this forms a seal.
However not having the cable connected to this side is an accident
waiting to happen, I think.

I started out looking for a replacement flap, but then thought if I
could get a plug with a male one end and female the other this could be
permanently fitted.

<https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CDGQQ1S6?th=1> is the Y fitting.

Then again, at -u10.59 why am I even bothering?

Cheers



Dave R

DoesnrCOt the one without the flap originally ( the rCybaserCO of the Y ) have
pins and accepts the lead from the bollard. The end which plugs into
that point should have a flap and female connectors. The other end of
the EHU lead- the bollard end- has pins. The bollard has female
connectors.

I assume you have a short lead from one top branch of the Y to the input
of the Motorhome. Just use the broken branch first. When you want to
have power outside, use the one with the flap.

That said SOME site wardens object to the use of such connectors or even connecting two EHU leads together.

I never had a problem but IrCOve seen a few rCydiscussionsrCO on sites.

The down (male) part of the Y goes directly into the (female) electrical socket on the side of the camper/caravan/whatever.

This then leaves you with two female sockets instead of one.

You plug the site lead into one female socket, then plug a different lead
into the now live second female socket.
In our case this is a short extension with a 13A 3 pin rubber socket which
can be used to power up electrical cooking devices to cook outside, or to charge my eBike which doesn't have a removable battery.

Neither application is suitable in wet weather but a weather proof
extension lead in a waterproof box could solve this issue.

Cheers



Dave R
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On 18/05/2026 07:53, SH wrote:

On 17/05/2026 20:32, David wrote:

Fettling the motor home.
Last year I broke the cover off the Y adapter which allows 2 devices to
share a 16A lead on a camp site.

It is a cheap alternative to having an external 13A socket fitted (which
we had in our caravan).

I bought a replacement, and am now looking at the original to see if I
can
fix it.

It should be OK is the cable from the camp site supply goes into the one
with the broken flap, as this forms a seal.
However not having the cable connected to this side is an accident
waiting
to happen, I think.

I started out looking for a replacement flap, but then thought if I could
get a plug with a male one end and female the other this could be
permanently fitted.

<https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CDGQQ1S6?th=1> is the Y fitting.

Then again, at -u10.59 why am I even bothering?

Cheers



Dave R

Be mindful that not all goods coming in from certain countries comply
with our safety laws or have UKCA marking & audit trail.

For this reason alone I refuse to buy rechargeable batteries or USB
chargers from companies whose names sound foreign and where they have a different H&S culture to us.

I always try to buy from know provenance such as Anker or Belkin or Startech....

That caused me to go looking.
Google tells me:
Anker is a Chinese company.
Belkin is owned by Foxconn - a Taiwanese company.
Startech is based in London (Ontario) - but manufacturing is of course
based in China (and Taiwan).

I'm not suggesting their kit is suspect, but they all are foreign and I
can't comment on their H&S culture.

I also steer clear of Temu, JD, Aliexpress. There are drop shippers on
both eBay and Amazon who resell at a decent mark up stuff that has come
from Temu, JD or AliExpress....

I know I end up paying more but better than a death or a burnt down
home....

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David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

On Sun, 17 May 2026 21:49:51 +0000, Brian wrote:

David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

Fettling the motor home.
Last year I broke the cover off the Y adapter which allows 2 devices to
share a 16A lead on a camp site.

It is a cheap alternative to having an external 13A socket fitted
(which we had in our caravan).

I bought a replacement, and am now looking at the original to see if I
can fix it.

It should be OK is the cable from the camp site supply goes into the
one with the broken flap, as this forms a seal.
However not having the cable connected to this side is an accident
waiting to happen, I think.

I started out looking for a replacement flap, but then thought if I
could get a plug with a male one end and female the other this could be
permanently fitted.

<https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CDGQQ1S6?th=1> is the Y fitting.

Then again, at -u10.59 why am I even bothering?

Cheers



Dave R

DoesnrCOt the one without the flap originally ( the rCybaserCO of the Y ) have
pins and accepts the lead from the bollard. The end which plugs into
that point should have a flap and female connectors. The other end of
the EHU lead- the bollard end- has pins. The bollard has female
connectors.

I assume you have a short lead from one top branch of the Y to the input
of the Motorhome. Just use the broken branch first. When you want to
have power outside, use the one with the flap.

That said SOME site wardens object to the use of such connectors or even
connecting two EHU leads together.

I never had a problem but IrCOve seen a few rCydiscussionsrCO on sites.

The down (male) part of the Y goes directly into the (female) electrical socket on the side of the camper/caravan/whatever.

This then leaves you with two female sockets instead of one.

You plug the site lead into one female socket, then plug a different lead into the now live second female socket.
In our case this is a short extension with a 13A 3 pin rubber socket which can be used to power up electrical cooking devices to cook outside, or to charge my eBike which doesn't have a removable battery.

Neither application is suitable in wet weather but a weather proof
extension lead in a waterproof box could solve this issue.

Cheers

Dave R

You seem to have a strange mix of genders but it takes all kinds.



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On 18/05/2026 12:24, Bob Eager wrote:

On Mon, 18 May 2026 11:57:49 +0100, Theo wrote:

Now, there are a few cases where it might be true. One is a brand just
slapping their label on a product from an Original Design Manufacturer
(ODM)
- the brand just went on Alibaba, found a pre-existing product and
ordered a few thousand in the brand's colour scheme and logo. In which
case, you can often tell because the product is otherwise identical to
the ODM product. (it's a fun game to search Alibaba and see if you can
spot a match)

See also the Trump phone.

That will not be a problem since it appears the fine print says they do
not guarantee to ever actually supply a phone in return for all those
$100 donations/deposits.
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