• Help Me Identify Pliers

    From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 11:09:20 2026
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    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump
    Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that goes
    the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about
    insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
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    Those who always notice spelling & grammatical errors, & them who doesn't.
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  • From Theo@theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 12:16:30 2026
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    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    'Circlip pliers' often come with right angle heads, although the tips are fairly small:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kraftmann-454-Circlip-Pliers-Black/dp/B0013JBS6M https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASelected-Pliers-Set-Snap-Ring/dp/B0BH4KRGH

    (not a recommendation)

    Also check the spread of the tips, as often for circlips they don't need to open too wide. Being designed for circlips, the tips are round and don't touch, which may be an issue for picking up tiny things - probably not an
    issue for a battery.

    Theo
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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 11:22:02 2026
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    On 14/05/2026 in message <kjD*dVwGA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Theo wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump >>Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that goes >>the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about >>insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    'Circlip pliers' often come with right angle heads, although the tips are >fairly small:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kraftmann-454-Circlip-Pliers-Black/dp/B0013JBS6M >https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASelected-Pliers-Set-Snap-Ring/dp/B0BH4KRGH

    (not a recommendation)

    Also check the spread of the tips, as often for circlips they don't need to >open too wide. Being designed for circlips, the tips are round and don't >touch, which may be an issue for picking up tiny things - probably not an >issue for a battery.

    Theo

    Many thanks :-)

    I need the pliers to be 90 degrees the other way, that is why I am having
    such a problem describing them! Looking at the battery it runs across left
    to right and I need to be able to grip the front and back rather than the sides.
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Though no-one can go back and make a new start, everyone can start from
    now and make a new ending.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 12:32:09 2026
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    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that
    goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Ransom thoughts:

    google right angle pliers. Plenty

    What about (plastic) tweezers?

    Do you really care about shorting a coin battery?

    BLU-TAC and a coat banger?

    One of those Bowden cable claws?

    Turning the computer upside down and shaking?
    --
    "It was a lot more fun being 20 in the 70's that it is being 70 in the 20's" Joew Walsh

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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 11:56:47 2026
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    On 14/05/2026 in message <10u4brp$2056$15@dont-email.me> The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump >>Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that >>goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about >>insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will >>fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Ransom thoughts:

    google right angle pliers. Plenty

    What about (plastic) tweezers?

    Do you really care about shorting a coin battery?

    BLU-TAC and a coat banger?

    One of those Bowden cable claws?

    Turning the computer upside down and shaking?

    The right angle pliers Google turns up are side to side not front to back.
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    We chose to do this not because it is easy but because we thought it would
    be easy.
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  • From jkn@jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 13:13:18 2026
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    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that
    goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    A small pick/hook type tool?

    You do seem to enjoy making a meal of things...
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  • From Tim+@timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 12:26:22 2026
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    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    Computers are usually very easy to strip down. It would have been expected that owners would need to replace batteries sometimes so no special tools beyond a screw driver should be needed.

    Tim
    --
    Please don't feed the trolls
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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 12:33:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 in message <523167983.800454301.004007.timdownieuk-yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net> Tim+ wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump >>Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that goes >>the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about >>insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    Computers are usually very easy to strip down. It would have been expected >that owners would need to replace batteries sometimes so no special tools >beyond a screw driver should be needed.

    Tim

    Have you ever tried to get a battery out of a HPe Proliant Microserver
    Gen8? A gynaecologist might manage it :-)
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    By the time you can make ends meet they move the ends
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 13:34:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 12:56, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <10u4brp$2056$15@dont-email.me> The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from
    the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a
    "Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need
    a pair that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have
    to think about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of
    the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands
    will fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Ransom thoughts:

    google right angle pliers. Plenty

    What about (plastic) tweezers?

    Do you really care about shorting a coin battery?

    BLU-TAC and a coat banger?

    One of those Bowden cable claws?

    Turning the computer upside down and shaking?

    The right angle pliers Google turns up are side to side not front to back.

    OK. I hadn't appreciarted that was a requirement
    --
    rCLThe fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that
    the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

    - Bertrand Russell


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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 12:35:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 in message <n6lsiuF7bdU1@mid.individual.net> jkn wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump >>Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that >>goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about >>insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will >>fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    A small pick/hook type tool?

    It needs to be pulled up against a spring clip.

    You do seem to enjoy making a meal of things...

    Not sure what that means? This is normally a polite and helpful group,
    there is no compulsion to reply.
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    When you think there's no hope left remember the lobsters in the tank in
    the Titanic's restaurant.
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 13:37:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about
    insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Coin batteries are made of steel and even a tiny neodymium magnet will
    stick to one. If it's not near any other steel, a magnet stuck to the
    end, eg, of a barbecue stick will retrieve the battery.
    --
    Jeff
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 13:50:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    jkn wrote:

    A small pick/hook type tool?

    It needs to be pulled up against a spring clip.
    I'd have thought something like a knitting needle would be able to ping
    the coin cell from the holder, and a lump of blutak on the end of the
    needle would retrieve it from wherever it lands?
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  • From jkn@jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 13:52:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 13:35, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <n6lsiuF7bdU1@mid.individual.net> jkn wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from
    the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a
    "Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need
    a pair that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have
    to think about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of
    the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands
    will fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    A small pick/hook type tool?

    It needs to be pulled up against a spring clip.

    You do seem to enjoy making a meal of things...

    Not sure what that means? This is normally a polite and helpful group,
    there is no compulsion to reply.

    It's a comment/observation - possibly helpful, hardly more than a tiny
    bit impolite. As I say, you do seem to enjoy making a meal of things...
    (on this newsgroup for ... > 25 years)


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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 12:55:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 in message <n6lusfF7beU1@mid.individual.net> jkn wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 13:35, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <n6lsiuF7bdU1@mid.individual.net> jkn wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>>>depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump >>>>Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that >>>>goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about >>>>insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery >>>>together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will >>>>fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    A small pick/hook type tool?

    It needs to be pulled up against a spring clip.

    You do seem to enjoy making a meal of things...

    Not sure what that means? This is normally a polite and helpful group, >>there is no compulsion to reply.

    It's a comment/observation - possibly helpful, hardly more than a tiny bit >impolite. As I say, you do seem to enjoy making a meal of things...
    (on this newsgroup for ... > 25 years)

    An example would be good, you don't have to read anything from me let
    alone reply to it.
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    That's an amazing invention but who would ever want to use one of them? (President Hayes speaking to Alexander Graham Bell on the invention of the telephone)
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  • From Simon Simple@nothanks@nottoday.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 14:24:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that
    goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Google "90 degree locking pliers" but they're probably too big.
    --
    SS

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  • From Matthias Czech@matthias.czech@t-online.de to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 15:43:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Am 14.05.2026 um 13:56 schrieb Jeff Gaines:


    The right angle pliers Google turns up are side to side not front to back.


    What do you mean with 'front to back'?
    This type?
    https://www.amazon.com/Z-Red-KWP2-Plier-Pliers/dp/B007QV4PZM

    (Just as an example. These are too massive for your intended task)
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  • From Timatmarford@tim@marford.uk.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 14:52:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 14:24, Simon Simple wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from
    the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water
    Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair
    that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think
    about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery
    together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands
    will fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Google "90 degree locking pliers" but they're probably too big.

    Consider surgical pliers. May not use hard steel so could be adapted.


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  • From John R Walliker@jrwalliker@gmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 15:22:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 14:52, Timatmarford wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 14:24, Simon Simple wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from
    the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a
    "Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need
    a pair that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have
    to think about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of
    the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands
    will fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Google "90 degree locking pliers" but they're probably too big.

    Consider surgical pliers. May not use hard steel so could be adapted.


    I just had a look at my Microserver Gen8. Without a pci-e expansion
    card plugged in I can reach the coin cell with my fingers once
    the lid is removed. If a card is in the way, or if fingers don't
    go far enough, sliding the motherboard out is not very difficult.
    I did this when I upgraded to a Xeon CPU. It does involve
    unplugging some cables.
    John

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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 14:40:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 in message <n6m1rsFcuqdU1@mid.individual.net> Matthias Czech wrote:

    Am 14.05.2026 um 13:56 schrieb Jeff Gaines:


    The right angle pliers Google turns up are side to side not front to back.


    What do you mean with 'front to back'?
    This type?
    https://www.amazon.com/Z-Red-KWP2-Plier-Pliers/dp/B007QV4PZM

    (Just as an example. These are too massive for your intended task)

    Yes!!!

    Thank you, now I know what they are called I have found them on Amazon UK.

    Many thanks :-)
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists
    or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.
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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 14:43:03 2026
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    On 14/05/2026 in message <10u4if7$dl8r$1@dont-email.me> Simon Simple wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump >>Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that >>goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about >>insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will >>fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Google "90 degree locking pliers" but they're probably too big.

    They do everything in the right direction though, thank you :-)
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Here we go it's getting close, now it's just who wants it most.
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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 14:45:01 2026
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    On 14/05/2026 in message <10u4lqp$3nltn$1@dont-email.me> John R Walliker wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 14:52, Timatmarford wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 14:24, Simon Simple wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>>>depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump >>>>Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that >>>>goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about >>>>insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery >>>>together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will >>>>fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Google "90 degree locking pliers" but they're probably too big.

    Consider surgical pliers. May not use hard steel so could be adapted.


    I just had a look at my Microserver Gen8. Without a pci-e expansion
    card plugged in I can reach the coin cell with my fingers once
    the lid is removed. If a card is in the way, or if fingers don't
    go far enough, sliding the motherboard out is not very difficult.
    I did this when I upgraded to a Xeon CPU. It does involve
    unplugging some cables.
    John

    I was trying to avoid taking it apart but it's a good fall back, thanks :-)

    I can touch the cell with my fingers but hands are too big to get a grip.
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    There are 3 types of people in this world. Those who can count, and those
    who can't.
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  • From Dave W@davewi11@yahoo.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 15:50:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 15:43, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    direction though, thank you EfOe
    Is the cell in its holder or is it just lying somewhere? Someone
    suggested a magnet, but if it's just lying a bit of sticky tape might do.

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  • From Andrew@Andrew97d@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 17:26:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 12:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from
    the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water
    Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair
    that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think
    about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery
    together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands
    will fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Ransom thoughts:

    google right angle pliers. Plenty

    What about (plastic) tweezers?

    Do you really care about shorting a coin battery?

    BLU-TAC and a coat banger?

    One of those Bowden cable claws?

    Turning the computer upside down and shaking?

    Dental pliers ?
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  • From Andrew@Andrew97d@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 17:34:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 13:33, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <523167983.800454301.004007.timdownieuk- yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net> Tim+ wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>> depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump
    Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that
    goes
    the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about
    insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery
    together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    Computers are usually very easy to strip down.-a It would have been
    expected
    that owners would need to replace batteries sometimes so no special tools
    beyond a screw driver should be needed.

    Tim

    Have you ever tried to get a battery out of a HPe Proliant Microserver
    Gen8? A gynaecologist might manage it :-)

    https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docId=psg000149aen_us&page=GUID-9AF8372C-D0D9-4FE9-9609-2B8549F1D43A.html&docLocale=en_US

    It *appears* to be quite simple. Is the M/C in the HP video
    the one that you have ?

    I hot swap mine. Its a tower case,. I just flick out the old
    one after attaching a blob of blu-tack and length of cotton
    to pull it away from the M/B.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Bob Eager@throwaway0008@eager.cx to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 16:36:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 14 May 2026 15:22:17 +0100, John R Walliker wrote:

    I just had a look at my Microserver Gen8. Without a pci-e expansion
    card plugged in I can reach the coin cell with my fingers once the lid
    is removed. If a card is in the way, or if fingers don't go far enough, sliding the motherboard out is not very difficult.
    I did this when I upgraded to a Xeon CPU. It does involve unplugging
    some cables.

    I replaced batteries in several of these recently. My hands are large and
    it wasn't easy. I ended up just remiving the motherboard; easy peasy.

    I have the servicing manual, so all the steps were there too.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Bob Eager@throwaway0008@eager.cx to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 16:37:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 14 May 2026 12:33:46 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 in message
    <523167983.800454301.004007.timdownieuk-
    yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net>
    Tim+ wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from
    the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water >>>Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair >>>that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think >>>about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery >>>together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will >>>fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    Computers are usually very easy to strip down. It would have been
    expected that owners would need to replace batteries sometimes so no >>special tools beyond a screw driver should be needed.

    Tim

    Have you ever tried to get a battery out of a HPe Proliant Microserver
    Gen8? A gynaecologist might manage it :-)

    As I just said above, easiest is to remove the motherboard tray!
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Chris Green@cl@isbd.net to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 17:37:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <10u4lqp$3nltn$1@dont-email.me> John R Walliker wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 14:52, Timatmarford wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 14:24, Simon Simple wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the
    depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump >>>>Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that >>>>goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about >>>>insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery >>>>together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will >>>>fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Google "90 degree locking pliers" but they're probably too big.

    Consider surgical pliers. May not use hard steel so could be adapted.


    I just had a look at my Microserver Gen8. Without a pci-e expansion
    card plugged in I can reach the coin cell with my fingers once
    the lid is removed. If a card is in the way, or if fingers don't
    go far enough, sliding the motherboard out is not very difficult.
    I did this when I upgraded to a Xeon CPU. It does involve
    unplugging some cables.
    John

    I was trying to avoid taking it apart but it's a good fall back, thanks :-)

    I can touch the cell with my fingers but hands are too big to get a grip.

    Can't you find a 'small person' to assist?
    --
    Chris Green
    -+
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Tim+@timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 17:45:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <523167983.800454301.004007.timdownieuk-yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net> Tim+ wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>> depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump
    Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that goes >>> the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about
    insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery together. >>>
    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    Computers are usually very easy to strip down. It would have been expected >> that owners would need to replace batteries sometimes so no special tools
    beyond a screw driver should be needed.

    Tim

    Have you ever tried to get a battery out of a HPe Proliant Microserver
    Gen8? A gynaecologist might manage it :-)


    Have you tried removing a card, drive, board, cable or whatever is in the
    way?

    Tim
    --
    Please don't feed the trolls
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 21:16:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 in message <10u4tit$hggh$1@dont-email.me> Andrew wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 13:33, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <523167983.800454301.004007.timdownieuk- >>yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net> Tim+ wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>>>depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump >>>>Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that >>>>goes
    the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about >>>>insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery >>>>together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will >>>>fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    Computers are usually very easy to strip down.-a It would have been >>>expected
    that owners would need to replace batteries sometimes so no special tools >>>beyond a screw driver should be needed.

    Tim

    Have you ever tried to get a battery out of a HPe Proliant Microserver >>Gen8? A gynaecologist might manage it :-)
    https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docId=psg000149aen_us&page=GUID-9AF8372C-D0D9-4FE9-9609-2B8549F1D43A.html&docLocale=en_US

    It appears to be quite simple. Is the M/C in the HP video
    the one that you have ?

    I hot swap mine. Its a tower case,. I just flick out the old
    one after attaching a blob of blu-tack and length of cotton
    to pull it away from the M/B.

    No, there's room for me to get both feet in that one!

    Picture 7 here:

    https://www.blackmoreit.com/products/hp-proliant-microserver-gen8-xeon-e3-1220lv2-cpu-16gb-ecc-ram-4x-hdd-trays-screws

    It's somewhere behind the power cable!
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Those are my principles rCo and if you donrCOt like them, well, I have
    others.
    (Groucho Marx)
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 22:54:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 22:16, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    to pull it away from the M/B.

    No, there's room for me to get both feet in that one!

    Picture 7 here:

    https://www.blackmoreit.com/products/hp-proliant-microserver-gen8-xeon-e3-1220lv2-cpu-16gb-ecc-ram-4x-hdd-trays-screws

    It's somewhere behind the power cable!

    So unplug the power cable!
    --
    All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that
    all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is
    fully understood.


    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 23:05:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 22:16, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <10u4tit$hggh$1@dont-email.me> Andrew wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 13:33, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <523167983.800454301.004007.timdownieuk-
    yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net> Tim+ wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery
    from the
    depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water
    Pump
    Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair
    that goes
    the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about
    insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery
    together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands
    will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    Computers are usually very easy to strip down.-a It would have been
    expected
    that owners would need to replace batteries sometimes so no special
    tools
    beyond a screw driver should be needed.

    Tim

    Have you ever tried to get a battery out of a HPe Proliant
    Microserver Gen8? A gynaecologist might manage it :-)

    https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docId=psg000149aen_us&page=GUID-9AF8372C-D0D9-4FE9-9609-2B8549F1D43A.html&docLocale=en_US

    It appears to be quite simple. Is the M/C in the HP video
    the one that you have ?

    I hot swap mine. Its a tower case,. I just flick out the old
    one after attaching a blob of blu-tack and length of cotton
    to pull it away from the M/B.

    No, there's room for me to get both feet in that one!

    Picture 7 here:

    https://www.blackmoreit.com/products/hp-proliant-microserver-gen8-xeon-e3-1220lv2-cpu-16gb-ecc-ram-4x-hdd-trays-screws

    It's somewhere behind the power cable!

    "System battery removal

    Before you begin: Review and follow Precautions . Follow Preparation procedures to power down, extend or remove the server from the rack.
    Remove the AC power cord, first from the source, and then from the
    server. Remove the access panel, and expansion boards, if they block
    access. Review System battery consideration.

    Use a small flat-bladed, non-conductive tool to carefully pry the
    system battery up out of its socket.

    CAUTION: Use great care to avoid letting the battery pop out of the socket, or allowing the tool to slip and damage the battery socket or
    the system board.
    Grasp the system battery and lift it out.

    System battery replacement

    With the positive (+) side of the battery facing up, toe the
    battery into its socket and gently press down until it is fully seated.

    IMPORTANT: Replacing the system board battery resets the system ROM
    to its default configuration. After replacing the battery, use
    BIOS/Platform Configuration (RBSU) in the UEFI System Utilities to
    reconfigure the system."

    It DOES look like you may need to partially strip the board to access
    the battery, but it doesn't seem to be as bad as you make out.
    --
    rCLThe fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that
    the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

    - Bertrand Russell


    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From AJH@news@loampitsfarm.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu May 14 23:17:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 14:52, Timatmarford wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 14:24, Simon Simple wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from
    the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a
    "Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need
    a pair that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have
    to think about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of
    the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands
    will fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Google "90 degree locking pliers" but they're probably too big.

    Consider surgical pliers. May not use hard steel so could be adapted.


    I find haemostats very useful for all sorts of grabbing and holding.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From chop@chop654@gmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri May 15 16:00:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Fri, 15 May 2026 02:26:21 +1000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
    wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 12:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from
    the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water >>> Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair
    that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think >>> about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery
    together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands
    will fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Ransom thoughts:
    google right angle pliers. Plenty
    What about (plastic) tweezers?
    Do you really care about shorting a coin battery?
    BLU-TAC and a coat banger?
    One of those Bowden cable claws?
    Turning the computer upside down and shaking?

    Dental pliers ?

    Do those open enough for a coin cell ?
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri May 15 07:36:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 in message <10u5h07$og42$7@dont-email.me> The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 22:16, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <10u4tit$hggh$1@dont-email.me> Andrew wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 13:33, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <523167983.800454301.004007.timdownieuk- >>>>yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net> Tim+ wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from >>>>>>the
    depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water >>>>>>Pump
    Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that >>>>>>goes
    the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about >>>>>>insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery >>>>>>together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands >>>>>>will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    Computers are usually very easy to strip down.-a It would have been >>>>>expected
    that owners would need to replace batteries sometimes so no special >>>>>tools
    beyond a screw driver should be needed.

    Tim

    Have you ever tried to get a battery out of a HPe Proliant Microserver >>>>Gen8? A gynaecologist might manage it :-)
    https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docId=psg000149aen_us&page=GUID-9AF8372C-D0D9-4FE9-9609-2B8549F1D43A.html&docLocale=en_US

    It appears to be quite simple. Is the M/C in the HP video
    the one that you have ?

    I hot swap mine. Its a tower case,. I just flick out the old
    one after attaching a blob of blu-tack and length of cotton
    to pull it away from the M/B.

    No, there's room for me to get both feet in that one!

    Picture 7 here:
    https://www.blackmoreit.com/products/hp-proliant-microserver-gen8-xeon-e3-1220lv2-cpu-16gb-ecc-ram-4x-hdd-trays-screws

    It's somewhere behind the power cable!

    "System battery removal

    Before you begin: Review and follow Precautions . Follow Preparation >procedures to power down, extend or remove the server from the rack.
    Remove the AC power cord, first from the source, and then from the server. >Remove the access panel, and expansion boards, if they block access.
    Review System battery consideration.

    Use a small flat-bladed, non-conductive tool to carefully pry the system battery up out of its socket.

    CAUTION: Use great care to avoid letting the battery pop out of the socket, or allowing the tool to slip and damage the battery socket or the system board.
    Grasp the system battery and lift it out.

    System battery replacement

    With the positive (+) side of the battery facing up, toe the battery into its socket and gently press down until it is fully seated.

    IMPORTANT: Replacing the system board battery resets the system ROM to its >default configuration. After replacing the battery, use BIOS/Platform >Configuration (RBSU) in the UEFI System Utilities to reconfigure the >system."

    It DOES look like you may need to partially strip the board to access the >battery, but it doesn't seem to be as bad as you make out.

    I think your lack of familiarity with this Microserver is leading you
    astray.

    The battery is vertical so no amount of Google/AI instructions for a horizontal battery on a normal size board in a desktop or tower case helps.

    I described what I needed to get it out in my first post, although I
    forgot to mention it is mounted vertically, and fortunately for me several people have given me pointers to a tool that will help, thank you to those people :-)
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    It may be that your sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others. --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Bob Eager@throwaway0008@eager.cx to uk.d-i-y on Fri May 15 08:19:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 14 May 2026 21:16:33 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 in message <10u4tit$hggh$1@dont-email.me> Andrew wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 13:33, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <523167983.800454301.004007.timdownieuk- >>>yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net> Tim+ wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from >>>>>the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a >>>>>"Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need >>>>>a pair that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have >>>>>to think about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of >>>>>the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands >>>>>will fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    Computers are usually very easy to strip down.-a It would have been >>>>expected that owners would need to replace batteries sometimes so no >>>>special tools beyond a screw driver should be needed.

    Tim

    Have you ever tried to get a battery out of a HPe Proliant Microserver >>>Gen8? A gynaecologist might manage it :-)

    https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay? docId=psg000149aen_us&page=GUID-9AF8372C- D0D9-4FE9-9609-2B8549F1D43A.html&docLocale=en_US

    It appears to be quite simple. Is the M/C in the HP video the one that
    you have ?

    I hot swap mine. Its a tower case,. I just flick out the old one after >>attaching a blob of blu-tack and length of cotton to pull it away from
    the M/B.

    No, there's room for me to get both feet in that one!

    Picture 7 here:

    https://www.blackmoreit.com/products/hp-proliant-microserver-gen8-xeon-
    e3-1220lv2-cpu-16gb-ecc-ram-4x-hdd-trays-screws

    It's somewhere behind the power cable!

    Jeff knows this, but for the edification of others:

    You have to remove the power cable first. Then you need to get a finger
    and thumb in there to grab the top of the battery. Simultaneuously, you somehow have to get a finger on the other hand to press the latch on the
    top of the battery holder.

    There is little space for all this.

    Much easier to detach three cables that side, and two on the other side (removing the memory makes the latter easier). Then press the latch on the back and slide the motherboard tray out. When refitting, slide it half in, then attach the more tricky cable at front right before moving it the rest
    of the way in.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri May 15 08:37:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 15/05/2026 in message <n6o38eF4jnfU3@mid.individual.net> Bob Eager wrote:

    On Thu, 14 May 2026 21:16:33 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 in message <10u4tit$hggh$1@dont-email.me> Andrew wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 13:33, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <523167983.800454301.004007.timdownieuk- >>>>yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net> Tim+ wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from >>>>>>the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a >>>>>>"Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need >>>>>>a pair that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have >>>>>>to think about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of >>>>>>the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands >>>>>>will fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    Computers are usually very easy to strip down.-a It would have been >>>>>expected that owners would need to replace batteries sometimes so no >>>>>special tools beyond a screw driver should be needed.

    Tim

    Have you ever tried to get a battery out of a HPe Proliant Microserver >>>>Gen8? A gynaecologist might manage it :-)

    https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay? >docId=psg000149aen_us&page=GUID-9AF8372C- >D0D9-4FE9-9609-2B8549F1D43A.html&docLocale=en_US

    It appears to be quite simple. Is the M/C in the HP video the one that >>>you have ?

    I hot swap mine. Its a tower case,. I just flick out the old one after >>>attaching a blob of blu-tack and length of cotton to pull it away from >>>the M/B.

    No, there's room for me to get both feet in that one!

    Picture 7 here:

    https://www.blackmoreit.com/products/hp-proliant-microserver-gen8-xeon- >e3-1220lv2-cpu-16gb-ecc-ram-4x-hdd-trays-screws

    It's somewhere behind the power cable!

    Jeff knows this, but for the edification of others:

    You have to remove the power cable first. Then you need to get a finger
    and thumb in there to grab the top of the battery. Simultaneuously, you >somehow have to get a finger on the other hand to press the latch on the
    top of the battery holder.

    There is little space for all this.

    Much easier to detach three cables that side, and two on the other side >(removing the memory makes the latter easier). Then press the latch on the >back and slide the motherboard tray out. When refitting, slide it half in, >then attach the more tricky cable at front right before moving it the rest
    of the way in.

    Many thanks Bob, spot on :-)

    My hands are designed for ATX boards.

    I an going to strip one of my two down because the case doesn't fit very
    well and inspection reveals a bent chassis, looks as if it has been
    dropped on a corner.

    Still works, built like tanks!
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Indecision is the key to flexibility
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Fri May 15 13:18:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 15/05/2026 08:36, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <10u5h07$og42$7@dont-email.me> The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 22:16, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <10u4tit$hggh$1@dont-email.me> Andrew wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 13:33, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 in message <523167983.800454301.004007.timdownieuk-
    yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net> Tim+ wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery >>>>>>> from the
    depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a
    "Water Pump
    Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair >>>>>>> that goes
    the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about >>>>>>> insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery >>>>>>> together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my
    hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    Computers are usually very easy to strip down.-a It would have been >>>>>> expected
    that owners would need to replace batteries sometimes so no
    special tools
    beyond a screw driver should be needed.

    Tim

    Have you ever tried to get a battery out of a HPe Proliant
    Microserver Gen8? A gynaecologist might manage it :-)

    https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docId=psg000149aen_us&page=GUID-9AF8372C-D0D9-4FE9-9609-2B8549F1D43A.html&docLocale=en_US

    It appears to be quite simple. Is the M/C in the HP video
    the one that you have ?

    I hot swap mine. Its a tower case,. I just flick out the old
    one after attaching a blob of blu-tack and length of cotton
    to pull it away from the M/B.

    No, there's room for me to get both feet in that one!

    Picture 7 here:

    https://www.blackmoreit.com/products/hp-proliant-microserver-gen8-xeon-e3-1220lv2-cpu-16gb-ecc-ram-4x-hdd-trays-screws

    It's somewhere behind the power cable!

    "System battery removal

    Before you begin: Review and follow Precautions . Follow Preparation
    procedures to power down, extend or remove the server from the rack.
    Remove the AC power cord, first from the source, and then from the
    server. Remove the access panel, and expansion boards, if they block
    access. Review System battery consideration.

    -a Use a small flat-bladed, non-conductive tool to carefully pry the
    system battery up out of its socket.

    -aCAUTION: Use great care to avoid letting the battery pop out of the
    socket, or allowing the tool to slip and damage the battery socket or
    the system board.
    -a-a Grasp the system battery and lift it out.

    System battery replacement

    -a With the positive (+) side of the battery facing up, toe the battery
    into its socket and gently press down until it is fully seated.

    IMPORTANT: Replacing the system board battery resets the system ROM to
    its default configuration. After replacing the battery, use
    BIOS/Platform Configuration (RBSU) in the UEFI System Utilities to
    reconfigure the system."

    It DOES look like you may need to partially-a strip the board to access
    the battery, but it doesn't seem to be as bad as you make out.

    I think your lack of familiarity with this Microserver is leading you astray.


    That was in fact HPs manual for the model you SAID you had
    complete with video

    The battery is vertical

    So turn te case on its side?

    so no amount of Google/AI instructions for a
    horizontal battery on a normal size board in a desktop or tower case helps.

    It wasnt. It was for a little bloxk side nanoserver

    I described what I needed to get it out in my first post, although I
    forgot to mention it is mounted vertically, and fortunately for me
    several people have given me pointers to a tool that will help, thank
    you to those people :-)

    --
    rCLBut what a weak barrier is truth when it stands in the way of an hypothesis!rCY

    Mary Wollstonecraft

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  • From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri May 15 13:24:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 14 May 2026 11:09:20 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that
    goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery
    together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Search for "self gripping tweezers".
    I have some and they are very good for gripping and holding.
    Can come with various nose designs, straight and right angle.

    Cheers



    Dave R
    --
    AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 10 x64

    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri May 15 13:41:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 15/05/2026 in message <n6ol5aFf261U2@mid.individual.net> David wrote:

    On Thu, 14 May 2026 11:09:20 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump >>Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that
    goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about >>insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery
    together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Search for "self gripping tweezers".
    I have some and they are very good for gripping and holding.
    Can come with various nose designs, straight and right angle.

    Cheers



    Dave R

    Many thanks :-)

    I have learnt about so many different tools in this thread!
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists
    or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Fri May 15 15:18:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 15/05/2026 14:41, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 15/05/2026 in message <n6ol5aFf261U2@mid.individual.net> David wrote:

    On Thu, 14 May 2026 11:09:20 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>> depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump
    Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that
    goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about
    insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery
    together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?

    Search for "self gripping tweezers".
    I have some and they are very good for gripping and holding.
    Can come with various nose designs, straight and right angle.

    Cheers



    Dave R

    Many thanks :-)

    I have learnt about so many different tools in this thread!

    https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docId=psg000149aen_us&page=GUID-9AF8372C-D0D9-4FE9-9609-2B8549F1D43A.html&docLocale=en_US#system-battery-removal-1
    --
    How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think.

    Adolf Hitler


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  • From Peter Johnson@peter@parksidewood.nospam to uk.d-i-y on Fri May 15 17:12:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14 May 2026 11:09:20 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:


    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >depths of a computer.

    Never used pliers to extract a coin battery. If I haven't been able to
    get my finger nail under it I've used a small screwdriver to lever it
    out.
    (I haven't read all the replies, in case anyone else has already said
    that, ot similar.)
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Fri May 15 17:23:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 15/05/2026 17:12, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On 14 May 2026 11:09:20 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:


    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the
    depths of a computer.

    Never used pliers to extract a coin battery. If I haven't been able to
    get my finger nail under it I've used a small screwdriver to lever it
    out.
    (I haven't read all the replies, in case anyone else has already said
    that, ot similar.

    Ideal is a plastic spudger of some sort, and you can probably get one
    with a bent end or soften the plastic with heat and bend it.
    --
    Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early twenty-first centuryrCOs developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and,
    on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer
    projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

    Richard Lindzen

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  • From Tim+@timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay to uk.d-i-y on Fri May 15 19:32:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
    On 14 May 2026 11:09:20 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:


    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the
    depths of a computer.

    Never used pliers to extract a coin battery. If I haven't been able to
    get my finger nail under it I've used a small screwdriver to lever it
    out.

    In my view, if you think you need a special tool to do something as basic
    as changing a battery, you are almost certainly doing it the wrong way.

    Tim
    --
    Please don't feed the trolls
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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri May 15 21:06:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 15/05/2026 in message <54754242.800566216.826578.timdownieuk-yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net> Tim+ wrote:

    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
    On 14 May 2026 11:09:20 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:


    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>>depths of a computer.

    Never used pliers to extract a coin battery. If I haven't been able to
    get my finger nail under it I've used a small screwdriver to lever it
    out.

    In my view, if you think you need a special tool to do something as basic
    as changing a battery, you are almost certainly doing it the wrong way.

    No. As explained many times now there is very limited space so either a special tool is needed or the PC has to be stripped down.
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks
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  • From Tim+@timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay to uk.d-i-y on Fri May 15 21:23:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 15/05/2026 in message <54754242.800566216.826578.timdownieuk-yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net> Tim+ wrote:

    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
    On 14 May 2026 11:09:20 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:


    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>>> depths of a computer.

    Never used pliers to extract a coin battery. If I haven't been able to
    get my finger nail under it I've used a small screwdriver to lever it
    out.

    In my view, if you think you need a special tool to do something as basic
    as changing a battery, you are almost certainly doing it the wrong way.

    No. As explained many times now there is very limited space so either a special tool is needed or the PC has to be stripped down.


    Quite. YourCOre meant to strip it down. Usually this takes no more than a crosshead head screwdriver.

    Tim
    --
    Please don't feed the trolls
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  • From Bob Eager@throwaway0008@eager.cx to uk.d-i-y on Fri May 15 21:29:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Fri, 15 May 2026 21:23:42 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 15/05/2026 in message
    <54754242.800566216.826578.timdownieuk-
    yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net>
    Tim+ wrote:

    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
    On 14 May 2026 11:09:20 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:


    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from >>>>> the depths of a computer.

    Never used pliers to extract a coin battery. If I haven't been able
    to get my finger nail under it I've used a small screwdriver to lever
    it out.

    In my view, if you think you need a special tool to do something as
    basic as changing a battery, you are almost certainly doing it the
    wrong way.

    No. As explained many times now there is very limited space so either a
    special tool is needed or the PC has to be stripped down.


    Quite. YourCOre meant to strip it down. Usually this takes no more than a crosshead head screwdriver.

    I think I made it clear that you don't actually need any tools. It takes
    about 5 minytes, and it's hardly a strip-down.
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  • From John R Walliker@jrwalliker@gmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri May 15 22:50:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 15/05/2026 22:29, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Fri, 15 May 2026 21:23:42 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 15/05/2026 in message
    <54754242.800566216.826578.timdownieuk-
    yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net>
    Tim+ wrote:

    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
    On 14 May 2026 11:09:20 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:


    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from >>>>>> the depths of a computer.

    Never used pliers to extract a coin battery. If I haven't been able
    to get my finger nail under it I've used a small screwdriver to lever >>>>> it out.

    In my view, if you think you need a special tool to do something as
    basic as changing a battery, you are almost certainly doing it the
    wrong way.

    No. As explained many times now there is very limited space so either a
    special tool is needed or the PC has to be stripped down.


    Quite. YourCOre meant to strip it down. Usually this takes no more than a
    crosshead head screwdriver.

    I think I made it clear that you don't actually need any tools. It takes about 5 minytes, and it's hardly a strip-down.

    Yes, it is very quick and easy to do.

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  • From wasbit@wasbit@invalid.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat May 16 09:40:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that
    goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will
    fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    My concern is that if you are using metal tools to grab both sides of a
    coin cell, won't that short it out?
    --
    Regards
    wasbit
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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sat May 16 09:42:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Sat, 16 May 2026 09:40:05 +0100
    wasbit <wasbit@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery
    from the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is
    a "Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I
    need a pair that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I
    will have to think about insulation as well as they would grip both
    poles of the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands
    will fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    My concern is that if you are using metal tools to grab both sides of
    a coin cell, won't that short it out?


    "Details, details....".
    --
    Davey.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat May 16 09:33:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 16/05/2026 in message <10u9agv$r796$2@dont-email.me> wasbit wrote:

    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump >>Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that >>goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about >>insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will >>fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    My concern is that if you are using metal tools to grab both sides of a
    coin cell, won't that short it out?

    Indeed! I would either need plastic or I could put a couple of condoms on
    the end :-)
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is
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  • From Charles Hope@clh@candehope.me.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sat May 16 10:00:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 16/05/2026 09:40, wasbit wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from
    the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water
    Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair
    that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think
    about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery
    together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands
    will fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    My concern is that if you are using metal tools to grab both sides of a
    coin cell, won't that short it out?

    does that matter, if the battery is dead?
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  • From Simon Simple@nothanks@nottoday.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sat May 16 11:36:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 16/05/2026 11:00, Charles Hope wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 09:40, wasbit wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from
    the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a
    "Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need
    a pair that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have
    to think about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of
    the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands
    will fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    My concern is that if you are using metal tools to grab both sides of
    a coin cell, won't that short it out?

    does that matter, if the battery is dead?

    "That's funny, I replaced the battery using my shorting pliers and it's
    dead already!"
    --
    SS

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Tim+@timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay to uk.d-i-y on Sat May 16 17:34:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> wrote:
    On Fri, 15 May 2026 21:23:42 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 15/05/2026 in message
    <54754242.800566216.826578.timdownieuk-
    yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net>
    Tim+ wrote:

    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
    On 14 May 2026 11:09:20 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:


    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from >>>>>> the depths of a computer.

    Never used pliers to extract a coin battery. If I haven't been able
    to get my finger nail under it I've used a small screwdriver to lever >>>>> it out.

    In my view, if you think you need a special tool to do something as
    basic as changing a battery, you are almost certainly doing it the
    wrong way.

    No. As explained many times now there is very limited space so either a
    special tool is needed or the PC has to be stripped down.


    Quite. YourCOre meant to strip it down. Usually this takes no more than a
    crosshead head screwdriver.

    I think I made it clear that you don't actually need any tools. It takes about 5 minytes, and it's hardly a strip-down.


    My reply was addressing computers in general rather than this specific
    model.

    Tim
    --
    Please don't feed the trolls
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  • From Bob Eager@throwaway0008@eager.cx to uk.d-i-y on Sat May 16 18:43:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Sat, 16 May 2026 17:34:16 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

    Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> wrote:
    On Fri, 15 May 2026 21:23:42 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 15/05/2026 in message <54754242.800566216.826578.timdownieuk-
    yahoo.co.youkay@news.individual.net>
    Tim+ wrote:

    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
    On 14 May 2026 11:09:20 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:


    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery
    from the depths of a computer.

    Never used pliers to extract a coin battery. If I haven't been able >>>>>> to get my finger nail under it I've used a small screwdriver to
    lever it out.

    In my view, if you think you need a special tool to do something as
    basic as changing a battery, you are almost certainly doing it the
    wrong way.

    No. As explained many times now there is very limited space so either
    a special tool is needed or the PC has to be stripped down.


    Quite. YourCOre meant to strip it down. Usually this takes no more than
    a crosshead head screwdriver.

    I think I made it clear that you don't actually need any tools. It
    takes about 5 minytes, and it's hardly a strip-down.


    My reply was addressing computers in general rather than this specific
    model.

    I'm probably spoiled! All of ours are screwless. The big desktops are all capable of having a hard drive changed without tools, at all. The
    microservers do need a screwdriver for that.
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat May 16 20:14:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 16/05/2026 09:40, wasbit wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from
    the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water
    Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair
    that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think
    about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery
    together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands
    will fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    My concern is that if you are using metal tools to grab both sides of a
    coin cell, won't that short it out?

    Put tape over the tips. It would probably improve the grip as well.

    But assuming the button cell is defective, shorting it isn't really a
    problem.
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From wasbit@wasbit@invalid.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun May 17 09:37:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 16/05/2026 10:00, Charles Hope wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 09:40, wasbit wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from
    the depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a
    "Water Pump Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need
    a pair that goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have
    to think about insulation as well as they would grip both poles of
    the battery together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands
    will fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    My concern is that if you are using metal tools to grab both sides of
    a coin cell, won't that short it out?

    does that matter, if the battery is dead?

    Presumably if the OP needs pliers to remove the duff battery he will try
    to use them to install the new battery.
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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun May 17 08:50:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 17/05/2026 in message <10ubunb$1hjvt$1@dont-email.me> wasbit wrote:

    On 16/05/2026 10:00, Charles Hope wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 09:40, wasbit wrote:
    On 14/05/2026 12:09, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I need a pair of pliers that will help me remove a coin battery from the >>>>depths of a computer. The nearest I have founds so far is a "Water Pump >>>>Plier" where the end bends over around 45 degrees, I need a pair that >>>>goes the full 90 degrees if that's possible. I will have to think about >>>>insulation as well as they would grip both poles of the battery >>>>together.

    I have size 12 feet and hands to match so there is no way my hands will >>>>fit in the innards of a small computer!

    Any idea?


    My concern is that if you are using metal tools to grab both sides of a >>>coin cell, won't that short it out?

    does that matter, if the battery is dead?

    Presumably if the OP needs pliers to remove the duff battery he will try
    to use them to install the new battery.

    Logical but the replacement was simple. It was getting my hand in and
    getting a grip on the old batter that was a problem.
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    George Washington was a British subject until well after his 40th birthday. (Margaret Thatcher, speech at the White House 17 December 1979)
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sun May 17 11:40:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 16/05/2026 19:43, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Sat, 16 May 2026 17:34:16 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

    My reply was addressing computers in general rather than this specific
    model.

    I'm probably spoiled! All of ours are screwless. The big desktops are all capable of having a hard drive changed without tools, at all. The microservers do need a screwdriver for that.

    It's a pity that changing the battery in a laptop isn't so easy! With
    mine, the manufacturers cleverly put the cmos battery directly under the keyboard. That means removing the main battery, drive enclosure,
    motherboard and fan, and goodness knows what else before the battery
    becomes visible. Why they didn't put it next to the main battery on
    flying leads to the mobo to make it easily accessible I'll never understand.
    --
    Jeff
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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sun May 17 13:01:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Sun, 17 May 2026 11:40:39 +0100
    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 16/05/2026 19:43, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Sat, 16 May 2026 17:34:16 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

    My reply was addressing computers in general rather than this
    specific model.

    I'm probably spoiled! All of ours are screwless. The big desktops
    are all capable of having a hard drive changed without tools, at
    all. The microservers do need a screwdriver for that.

    It's a pity that changing the battery in a laptop isn't so easy! With
    mine, the manufacturers cleverly put the cmos battery directly under
    the keyboard. That means removing the main battery, drive enclosure, motherboard and fan, and goodness knows what else before the battery
    becomes visible. Why they didn't put it next to the main battery on
    flying leads to the mobo to make it easily accessible I'll never
    understand.


    "Not my job, guv".
    --
    Davey.

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  • From Joe@joe@jretrading.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun May 17 13:13:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Sun, 17 May 2026 11:40:39 +0100
    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 16/05/2026 19:43, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Sat, 16 May 2026 17:34:16 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

    My reply was addressing computers in general rather than this
    specific model.

    I'm probably spoiled! All of ours are screwless. The big desktops
    are all capable of having a hard drive changed without tools, at
    all. The microservers do need a screwdriver for that.

    It's a pity that changing the battery in a laptop isn't so easy! With
    mine, the manufacturers cleverly put the cmos battery directly under
    the keyboard. That means removing the main battery, drive enclosure, motherboard and fan, and goodness knows what else before the battery
    becomes visible. Why they didn't put it next to the main battery on
    flying leads to the mobo to make it easily accessible I'll never
    understand.


    Because you're expected to buy a new laptop before the battery dies.
    --
    Joe

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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun May 17 19:11:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 17/05/2026 11:40, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 19:43, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Sat, 16 May 2026 17:34:16 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

    My reply was addressing computers in general rather than this specific
    model.

    I'm probably spoiled! All of ours are screwless. The big desktops are all
    capable of having a hard drive changed without tools, at all. The
    microservers do need a screwdriver for that.

    It's a pity that changing the battery in a laptop isn't so easy! With
    mine, the manufacturers cleverly put the cmos battery directly under the keyboard. That means removing the main battery, drive enclosure,
    motherboard and fan, and goodness knows what else before the battery
    becomes visible. Why they didn't put it next to the main battery on
    flying leads to the mobo to make it easily accessible I'll never
    understand.

    That would probably add 0.02% to the cost of assembly - and there is no advantage to them in doing it.
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Tim+@timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay to uk.d-i-y on Sun May 17 19:21:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 19:43, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Sat, 16 May 2026 17:34:16 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

    My reply was addressing computers in general rather than this specific
    model.

    I'm probably spoiled! All of ours are screwless. The big desktops are all
    capable of having a hard drive changed without tools, at all. The
    microservers do need a screwdriver for that.

    It's a pity that changing the battery in a laptop isn't so easy! With
    mine, the manufacturers cleverly put the cmos battery directly under the keyboard. That means removing the main battery, drive enclosure,
    motherboard and fan, and goodness knows what else before the battery
    becomes visible. Why they didn't put it next to the main battery on
    flying leads to the mobo to make it easily accessible I'll never understand.


    WasnrCOt removing the keyboard an option? Admittedly itrCOs not always obvious how to do this but itrCOs usually possible.

    Tim
    --
    Please don't feed the trolls
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  • From wasbit@wasbit@invalid.com to uk.d-i-y on Mon May 18 08:20:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 17/05/2026 11:40, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 19:43, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Sat, 16 May 2026 17:34:16 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

    My reply was addressing computers in general rather than this specific
    model.

    I'm probably spoiled! All of ours are screwless. The big desktops are all
    capable of having a hard drive changed without tools, at all. The
    microservers do need a screwdriver for that.

    It's a pity that changing the battery in a laptop isn't so easy! With
    mine, the manufacturers cleverly put the cmos battery directly under the keyboard. That means removing the main battery, drive enclosure,
    motherboard and fan, and goodness knows what else before the battery
    becomes visible. Why they didn't put it next to the main battery on
    flying leads to the mobo to make it easily accessible I'll never
    understand.


    Oh yes, been there, done that.
    On some models getting to the battery requires removing the motherboard
    to access it.
    --
    Regards
    wasbit
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Mon May 18 21:33:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 17/05/2026 20:21, Tim+ wrote:
    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 16/05/2026 19:43, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Sat, 16 May 2026 17:34:16 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

    My reply was addressing computers in general rather than this specific >>>> model.

    I'm probably spoiled! All of ours are screwless. The big desktops are all >>> capable of having a hard drive changed without tools, at all. The
    microservers do need a screwdriver for that.

    It's a pity that changing the battery in a laptop isn't so easy! With
    mine, the manufacturers cleverly put the cmos battery directly under the
    keyboard. That means removing the main battery, drive enclosure,
    motherboard and fan, and goodness knows what else before the battery
    becomes visible. Why they didn't put it next to the main battery on
    flying leads to the mobo to make it easily accessible I'll never understand. >>

    WasnrCOt removing the keyboard an option? Admittedly itrCOs not always obvious
    how to do this but itrCOs usually possible.

    Yes, it's possible, but the service manual says you require a special
    tool to do it!
    --
    Jeff
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  • From richard@richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) to uk.d-i-y on Mon May 18 21:21:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    In article <n6luntFcfejU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    I'd have thought something like a knitting needle would be able to ping
    the coin cell from the holder, and a lump of blutak on the end of the
    needle would retrieve it from wherever it lands?

    I have managed to extract various unlikely items by getting a strip of
    duct tape down the side. Of course the trick is to get it far enough
    in before it sticks to it.

    -- Richard



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