A question for the combined experience here.Yes, when i card expires (as opposed to being cancelled) you get the
My debit card expires 05/26 - end of this month.
When I log on to Amazon it complains it is about to expire.
I just bought something and it came up with a new number that I have not seen before.
Does that mean something goes on electronically with physical card to follow?
Jeff Gaines wrote:
A question for the combined experience here.
My debit card expires 05/26 - end of this month.
When I log on to Amazon it complains it is about to expire.
I just bought something and it came up with a new number that I have not seen before.
Does that mean something goes on electronically with physical card to follow?Yes, when i card expires (as opposed to being cancelled) you get the
next number in sequence, e.g. if old card was 1111 1111 1111 111X
you probably get new number 1111 1111 1111 112Z
where X and Z are check digits on the card number
and major players like Amazon etc "know" the card number has just incremented ...
A question for the combined experience here.
My debit card expires 05/26 - end of this month.
When I log on to Amazon it complains it is about to expire.
I just bought something and it came up with a new number that I have not seen before.
Does that mean something goes on electronically with physical card to follow?
I just bought something and it came up with a new number that I have not >seen before.
Does that mean something goes on electronically with physical card to >follow?
On 13/05/2026 in message <xn0ppqaqafqdqbk02u@news.individual.net> Jeff Gaines wrote:
I just bought something and it came up with a new number that I have
not seen before.
Does that mean something goes on electronically with physical card to
follow?
I started a chat with the bank to check this, they were so slow I went
to bed in the end. Looked at it again this morning and they confirmed it
is the replacement card!
I can use it with Amazon (perhaps other online shopping) but haven't physically received it yet...
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
Jeff Gaines wrote:
A question for the combined experience here.
My debit card expires 05/26 - end of this month.
When I log on to Amazon it complains it is about to expire.
I just bought something and it came up with a new number that I have not seen before.
Does that mean something goes on electronically with physical card to follow?Yes, when i card expires (as opposed to being cancelled) you get the
next number in sequence, e.g. if old card was 1111 1111 1111 111X
you probably get new number 1111 1111 1111 112Z
where X and Z are check digits on the card number
and major players like Amazon etc "know" the card number has just incremented ...
Sometimes you get the same number with an expiry date +2/+3+5 years on from the old one.
I think there is a mechanism by which the banks communicate updates in card numbers to merchants with a 'continuous payment authority' with the
customer, like subscriptions (but perhaps not saved cards?). It means subscription payments don't suddenly start failing if the card is renewed. If the card is reported stolen then perhaps they won't propagate the new number?
Theo
I have not found how to get rid of old numbers on Amazon.
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:Well, I spotted a couple of fraudulent transactions on my credit card recently, I phoned the bank, and they refunded the transactions, and
Jeff Gaines wrote:
A question for the combined experience here.Yes, when i card expires (as opposed to being cancelled) you get the
My debit card expires 05/26 - end of this month.
When I log on to Amazon it complains it is about to expire.
I just bought something and it came up with a new number that I have not >>> seen before.
Does that mean something goes on electronically with physical card to
follow?
next number in sequence, e.g. if old card was 1111 1111 1111 111X
you probably get new number 1111 1111 1111 112Z
where X and Z are check digits on the card number
and major players like Amazon etc "know" the card number has just
incremented ...
Sometimes you get the same number with an expiry date +2/+3+5 years on from the old one.
I think there is a mechanism by which the banks communicate updates in card numbers to merchants with a 'continuous payment authority' with the
customer, like subscriptions (but perhaps not saved cards?). It means subscription payments don't suddenly start failing if the card is renewed.
If the card is reported stolen then perhaps they won't propagate the new number?
On 13/05/2026 16:56, Theo wrote:
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:Well, I spotted a couple of fraudulent transactions on my credit card recently, I phoned the bank, and they refunded the transactions, and
Jeff Gaines wrote:
A question for the combined experience here.Yes, when i card expires (as opposed to being cancelled) you get the
My debit card expires 05/26 - end of this month.
When I log on to Amazon it complains it is about to expire.
I just bought something and it came up with a new number that I have
not
seen before.
Does that mean something goes on electronically with physical card to
follow?
next number in sequence,-a e.g. if old card was 1111 1111 1111 111X
you probably get new number 1111 1111 1111 112Z
where X and Z are check digits on the card number
and major players like Amazon etc "know" the card number has just
incremented ...
Sometimes you get the same number with an expiry date +2/+3+5 years on
from
the old one.
I think there is a mechanism by which the banks communicate updates in
card
numbers to merchants with a 'continuous payment authority' with the
customer, like subscriptions (but perhaps not saved cards?).-a It means
subscription payments don't suddenly start failing if the card is
renewed.
If the card is reported stolen then perhaps they won't propagate the new
number?
killed the card, and sent me a replacement (which impressively arrived within 24 hours)
About an hour after my report to them, the new card details appeared in
the app, so I set about changing various subscriptions with the new card details. However I forgot one, but amazingly logging on to that vendor's portal, it had updated by itself anyway.
The new card has a completely different last 8 digits
On 16/05/2026 09:58, Mark Carver wrote:I doubt the scheme will still work going Visa<>Mastercard, but who knows ?!! --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
On 13/05/2026 16:56, Theo wrote:
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:Well, I spotted a couple of fraudulent transactions on my credit card
Jeff Gaines wrote:
A question for the combined experience here.Yes, when i card expires (as opposed to being cancelled) you get the
My debit card expires 05/26 - end of this month.
When I log on to Amazon it complains it is about to expire.
I just bought something and it came up with a new number that I
have not
seen before.
Does that mean something goes on electronically with physical card to >>>>> follow?
next number in sequence,-a e.g. if old card was 1111 1111 1111 111X
you probably get new number 1111 1111 1111 112Z
where X and Z are check digits on the card number
and major players like Amazon etc "know" the card number has just
incremented ...
Sometimes you get the same number with an expiry date +2/+3+5 years
on from
the old one.
I think there is a mechanism by which the banks communicate updates
in card
numbers to merchants with a 'continuous payment authority' with the
customer, like subscriptions (but perhaps not saved cards?).-a It means
subscription payments don't suddenly start failing if the card is
renewed.
If the card is reported stolen then perhaps they won't propagate the new >>> number?
recently, I phoned the bank, and they refunded the transactions, and
killed the card, and sent me a replacement (which impressively arrived
within 24 hours)
About an hour after my report to them, the new card details appeared
in the app, so I set about changing various subscriptions with the new
card details. However I forgot one, but amazingly logging on to that
vendor's portal, it had updated by itself anyway.
The new card has a completely different last 8 digits
Interesting. Lloyds are moving from Mastercard to Visa. Rather
concerning to think of all the services that bill me once/year and all
the suppliers that have my card recorded ready for use!
On 16/05/2026 09:58, Mark Carver wrote:
Well, I spotted a couple of fraudulent transactions on my credit card
recently, I phoned the bank, and they refunded the transactions, and
killed the card, and sent me a replacement (which impressively arrived
within 24 hours)
About an hour after my report to them, the new card details appeared
in the app, so I set about changing various subscriptions with the new
card details. However I forgot one, but amazingly logging on to that
vendor's portal, it had updated by itself anyway.
The new card has a completely different last 8 digits
Interesting. Lloyds are moving from Mastercard to Visa. Rather
concerning to think of all the services that bill me once/year and all
the suppliers that have my card recorded ready for use!
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
Jeff Gaines wrote:
A question for the combined experience here.Yes, when i card expires (as opposed to being cancelled) you get the
My debit card expires 05/26 - end of this month.
When I log on to Amazon it complains it is about to expire.
I just bought something and it came up with a new number that I have not >> > seen before.
Does that mean something goes on electronically with physical card to
follow?
next number in sequence, e.g. if old card was 1111 1111 1111 111X
you probably get new number 1111 1111 1111 112Z
where X and Z are check digits on the card number
and major players like Amazon etc "know" the card number has just
incremented ...
Sometimes you get the same number with an expiry date +2/+3+5 years on from >the old one.
pinnerite wrote:
I have not found how to get rid of old numbers on Amazon.
Your Accounts / Your Payments / Wallet
This link will probably take you there (via login page if necessary)
<https://www.amazon.co.uk/cpe/yourpayments/wallet?ref_=ya_d_c_pmt_mpo>
On 16/05/2026 11:55, Timatmarford wrote:
On 16/05/2026 09:58, Mark Carver wrote:I doubt the scheme will still work going Visa<>Mastercard, but who
On 13/05/2026 16:56, Theo wrote:
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:Well, I spotted a couple of fraudulent transactions on my credit card
Jeff Gaines wrote:
A question for the combined experience here.Yes, when i card expires (as opposed to being cancelled) you get the >>>>> next number in sequence,-a e.g. if old card was 1111 1111 1111 111X
My debit card expires 05/26 - end of this month.
When I log on to Amazon it complains it is about to expire.
I just bought something and it came up with a new number that I
have not
seen before.
Does that mean something goes on electronically with physical card to >>>>>> follow?
you probably get new number 1111 1111 1111 112Z
where X and Z are check digits on the card number
and major players like Amazon etc "know" the card number has just
incremented ...
Sometimes you get the same number with an expiry date +2/+3+5 years
on from
the old one.
I think there is a mechanism by which the banks communicate updates
in card
numbers to merchants with a 'continuous payment authority' with the
customer, like subscriptions (but perhaps not saved cards?).-a It means >>>> subscription payments don't suddenly start failing if the card is
renewed.
If the card is reported stolen then perhaps they won't propagate the
new
number?
recently, I phoned the bank, and they refunded the transactions, and
killed the card, and sent me a replacement (which impressively
arrived within 24 hours)
About an hour after my report to them, the new card details appeared
in the app, so I set about changing various subscriptions with the
new card details. However I forgot one, but amazingly logging on to
that vendor's portal, it had updated by itself anyway.
The new card has a completely different last 8 digits
Interesting. Lloyds are moving from Mastercard to Visa. Rather
concerning to think of all the services that bill me once/year and all
the suppliers that have my card recorded ready for use!
knows ?!!
ATM I have two MBNA cards, one Visa and the other Mastercard. They want
to change my Mastercard one to Visa, for some reason. They might as well amalgamate them and pool the credit limit, as Barclaycard did a few
years ago.
On 16/05/2026 18:04, Max Demian wrote:
ATM I have two MBNA cards, one Visa and the other Mastercard. They want
to change my Mastercard one to Visa, for some reason. They might as well
amalgamate them and pool the credit limit, as Barclaycard did a few
years ago.
MBNA is part of the Lloyds/RBS group, so that's all part of Lloyds
switching their allegiance to Visa
On 16/05/2026 18:04, Max Demian wrote:
ATM I have two MBNA cards, one Visa and the other Mastercard. They
want to change my Mastercard one to Visa, for some reason. They might
as well amalgamate them and pool the credit limit, as Barclaycard did
a few years ago.
MBNA is part of the Lloyds/RBS group, so that's all part of Lloyds
switching their allegiance to Visa
On Sun, 17 May 2026 10:10:23 +0100, Mark Carver <mark@invalid.com>
wrote:
On 16/05/2026 18:04, Max Demian wrote:
ATM I have two MBNA cards, one Visa and the other Mastercard. They
want to change my Mastercard one to Visa, for some reason. They might
as well amalgamate them and pool the credit limit, as Barclaycard did
a few years ago.
MBNA is part of the Lloyds/RBS group, so that's all part of Lloyds >>switching their allegiance to Visa
Is Visa becoming the dominant player?
On 17/05/2026 10:10, Mark Carver wrote:
On 16/05/2026 18:04, Max Demian wrote:
ATM I have two MBNA cards, one Visa and the other Mastercard. They
want to change my Mastercard one to Visa, for some reason. They might
as well amalgamate them and pool the credit limit, as Barclaycard did
a few years ago.
MBNA is part of the Lloyds/RBS group, so that's all part of Lloyds
switching their allegiance to Visa
Lloyds and RBS are not the same, Lloyds and Bank of Scotland/Halifax
are, however. RBS is also Nat West.
On Sun, 17 May 2026 11:12:43 +0100, Scott wrote:I know someone who works for Visa. He says it's quite normal for banks
On Sun, 17 May 2026 10:10:23 +0100, Mark Carver <mark@invalid.com>
wrote:
On 16/05/2026 18:04, Max Demian wrote:
ATM I have two MBNA cards, one Visa and the other Mastercard. They
want to change my Mastercard one to Visa, for some reason. They might
as well amalgamate them and pool the credit limit, as Barclaycard did
a few years ago.
MBNA is part of the Lloyds/RBS group, so that's all part of Lloyds
switching their allegiance to Visa
Is Visa becoming the dominant player?
NatWest debit cards moved from Visa to Mastercard last year.
On 17/05/2026 13:19, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 11:12:43 +0100, Scott wrote:I know someone who works for Visa. He says it's quite normal for banks
On Sun, 17 May 2026 10:10:23 +0100, Mark Carver <mark@invalid.com>
wrote:
On 16/05/2026 18:04, Max Demian wrote:
ATM I have two MBNA cards, one Visa and the other Mastercard. They
want to change my Mastercard one to Visa, for some reason. They might >>>>> as well amalgamate them and pool the credit limit, as Barclaycard did >>>>> a few years ago.
MBNA is part of the Lloyds/RBS group, so that's all part of Lloyds
switching their allegiance to Visa
Is Visa becoming the dominant player?
NatWest debit cards moved from Visa to Mastercard last year.
to swap their allegiances back and forth between the two
On 17/05/2026 15:53, Mark Carver wrote:
On 17/05/2026 13:19, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 11:12:43 +0100, Scott wrote:I know someone who works for Visa. He says it's quite normal for banks
On Sun, 17 May 2026 10:10:23 +0100, Mark Carver <mark@invalid.com>
wrote:
On 16/05/2026 18:04, Max Demian wrote:
ATM I have two MBNA cards, one Visa and the other Mastercard. They >>>>>> want to change my Mastercard one to Visa, for some reason. They might >>>>>> as well amalgamate them and pool the credit limit, as Barclaycard did >>>>>> a few years ago.
MBNA is part of the Lloyds/RBS group, so that's all part of Lloyds
switching their allegiance to Visa
Is Visa becoming the dominant player?
NatWest debit cards moved from Visa to Mastercard last year.
to swap their allegiances back and forth between the two
in the early days of Credit Cards, BoS gave me one of each.
in the early days of Credit Cards, BoS gave me one of each.
I had one of each from Barclays.
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