On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 13:46:58 +0000, Davey wrote:I can report progress with my 'smart' meter. After a couple of
On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 12:06:56 -0000 (UTC)
Jethro <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 12:03:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:I have reported this somewhere before, but back in 1991, we lived
On 28/03/2026 11:38, Davey wrote:
Last year, my local water company converted my supply meter to aIf it says 'smart' it is targeted at the most stupid sector of
'Smart'
meter. It worked, but there were always gaps in the readings.
Then at some time before Christmas, I noticed that there had
been no readings logged since October. I queried this, and they
confirmed that it had lost connection to the network.
Eventually, they decided to replace it, which they did two
weeks ago. Since then, I have expected to see readings again.
There are none. When I asked about this, the reply was that it
might take a whole month before the meter is successfully
logged into the network and reporting readings. So far, it is
not doing anything to contradict this. I had also asked when
they would have noticed the lack of readings if I had not
alerted them, and the reply was "At the next billing date",
which would have been another couple of months.
It's good to see how efficient 'Smart' meters are.
the population.
I refuse to have one installed
I dunno. If my meter said -u0 for the entire year, who am I to
disagree ?
in a house in Kansas City, MO for a year. For the first few months,
the electric meter, which was mounted outside the house, was stuck.
We received monthly bills for the standing charge and no dollars for
power used. Then one evening, there was a knock on the door, and
outside was a technician with a new meter in his hand, warning us
that the power would be off for a few minutes. He replaced the
meter quickly, (it was a plug-and-play spinning disk unit), and
soon we received an estimated bill for the previous missing months.
I thought it was a little high, and contacted the Missouri version
of Ofgem, who said that it fitted perfectly into the average costs
for our situation. Oh well, I tried.
Many years ago in the Uk there was a spate of stories about cash
machines not dispensing the full requested amount. All the banks as
one repeatedly insisted that their cash machines could not go wrong.
A stance they rather regretted when some machines dispensed *more*
than requested and the banks could not exactly ask for their money
back.
For well over 10 years I kept a letter from my bank returning my
cared after (their words) "a fault with the machine".
On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 16:10:16 -0000 (UTC)
Jethro <jethro_UK@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
Re: ATM failure. I was on the last evening of a job in Mexico City, and
my nearest ATM was at a branch of the supermarket chain Carrefour. I
needed some cash for my taxi ride to the airport the following morning,
and for the driver's tourist tour of Mexico City Cathedral and
nearby murals by Diego Rivera (cash only). The machine gave me my
money, and then there was the sound of mechanical teeth crunching my
card, as though Jaws from James Bond was inside it. It didn't even spit
the bits out. I went into the bank, but all I got was a shrugging of shoulders: "We have no control over the machine". At least I had my
cash. The next morning, my first trip was to my bank to sort the card
out.
I can report progress with my 'smart' meter. After a couple of
conversations, during which the water company said that the meter was
working and reporting correctly
Davey wrote:
I can report progress with my 'smart' meter. After a couple of conversations, during which the water company said that the meter
was working and reporting correctly
Having finally accepted that I do have a smart water fitted STwater
allowed me to switch from the rateable value to usage based tariff,
but the meter hasn't reported any of its own readings yet.
I think I've located the LoRaWAN base-station it should be reporting through.
Their site says ...
"We're working behind the scenes to bring back your daily, weekly,
and monthly usage graphs. Thanks for your patience while we make improvements - it won't be long."
If you thought trying to get help from some UK institutions was hard,
try the US Postal Service. You finally find a link to 'e-mail us', but
it just leads to more links that go nowhere. You fill in the Feedback,
box, and then it says that there will be no response, it is only used to 'improve the customer experience'. I'm still waiting......
Davey wrote:
I can report progress with my 'smart' meter. After a couple of
conversations, during which the water company said that the meter was
working and reporting correctly
Having finally accepted that I do have a smart water fitted STwater
allowed me to switch from the rateable value to usage based tariff, but
the meter hasn't reported any of its own readings yet.
I think I've located the LoRaWAN base-station it should be reporting through.
Their site says ...
"We're working behind the scenes to bring back your daily, weekly, and monthly usage graphs. Thanks for your patience while we make
improvements - it won't be long."
On 13/05/2026 11:38, Andy Burns wrote:
Davey wrote:I'm getting exactly the same message from Severn Trent Water - and it
I can report progress with my 'smart' meter. After a couple of
conversations, during which the water company said that the meter was
working and reporting correctly
Having finally accepted that I do have a smart water fitted STwater
allowed me to switch from the rateable value to usage based tariff, but
the meter hasn't reported any of its own readings yet.
I think I've located the LoRaWAN base-station it should be reporting
through.
Their site says ...
"We're working behind the scenes to bring back your daily, weekly, and
monthly usage graphs. Thanks for your patience while we make
improvements - it won't be long."
*has* been long.
A few months ago, they introduced a "new improved" customer platform,
and customers who had previously logged on to the old platform were >transferred over to it. The usage graphs on the old platform were
brilliant, showing usage in each hour the 24-hour day - which made it
easy to spot any unusual patterns which may indicate that there was a leak.
They've not yet made "smart graphs" work on the new platform. What's >"improved" about that?!!
On Wed, 13 May 2026 13:56:07 +0100, Roger Mills
<mills37.fslife@gmail.com> wrote:
On 13/05/2026 11:38, Andy Burns wrote:
Davey wrote:I'm getting exactly the same message from Severn Trent Water - and it
I can report progress with my 'smart' meter. After a couple of
conversations, during which the water company said that the meter was
working and reporting correctly
Having finally accepted that I do have a smart water fitted STwater
allowed me to switch from the rateable value to usage based tariff, but
the meter hasn't reported any of its own readings yet.
I think I've located the LoRaWAN base-station it should be reporting
through.
Their site says ...
"We're working behind the scenes to bring back your daily, weekly, and
monthly usage graphs. Thanks for your patience while we make
improvements - it won't be long."
*has* been long.
A few months ago, they introduced a "new improved" customer platform,
and customers who had previously logged on to the old platform were
transferred over to it. The usage graphs on the old platform were
brilliant, showing usage in each hour the 24-hour day - which made it
easy to spot any unusual patterns which may indicate that there was a leak. >>
They've not yet made "smart graphs" work on the new platform. What's
"improved" about that?!!
A work colleague from many years ago used to say 'improvement means deterioration'. True, but in this day and age what on earth are our
schools and colleges turning out!?
On Wed, 13 May 2026 13:56:07 +0100, Roger Mills
<mills37.fslife@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm getting exactly the same message from Severn Trent Water - and it >*has* been long.
A few months ago, they introduced a "new improved" customer platform,
and customers who had previously logged on to the old platform were >transferred over to it. The usage graphs on the old platform were >brilliant, showing usage in each hour the 24-hour day - which made it
easy to spot any unusual patterns which may indicate that there was a leak.
They've not yet made "smart graphs" work on the new platform. What's >"improved" about that?!!
A work colleague from many years ago used to say 'improvement means deterioration'. True, but in this day and age what on earth are our
schools and colleges turning out!?
Last year, my local water company converted my supply meter to a 'Smart' meter. It worked, but there were always gaps in the readings.
Then at some time before Christmas, I noticed that there had been no
readings logged since October. I queried this, and they confirmed that
it had lost connection to the network.
On 28/03/2026 11:38, Davey wrote:
Last year, my local water company converted my supply meter to a
'Smart' meter. It worked, but there were always gaps in the
readings. Then at some time before Christmas, I noticed that there
had been no readings logged since October. I queried this, and they confirmed that it had lost connection to the network.
Signal issues?
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