• Magnetic Screwdriver

    From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Apr 29 11:21:33 2026
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    I have a couple of magnetic screwdrivers designed to hold a screw until it
    is just above the socket then drop it.

    When I was at school I was told you could magnetise steel by pointing it
    north and hitting it with a hammer, is that still correct?

    Is there a better way and how do I keep them magnestised please?
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Thanks for teaching me the meaning of plethora, it means a lot.
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  • From Pancho@Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Apr 29 12:28:54 2026
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    On 4/29/26 12:21, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I have a couple of magnetic screwdrivers designed to hold a screw until
    it is just above the socket then drop it.

    When I was at school I was told you could magnetise steel by pointing it north and hitting it with a hammer, is that still correct?


    I think the laws of physics are still the same, but I assume this is a
    very weak effect, a little stronger if you use heat. Not something to
    use in the age of electricity and strong neodymium magnets.

    Is there a better way and how do I keep them magnestised please?


    Google: <https://www.woodguide.org/how-to-magnetise-a-screwdriver-5-easy-methods-that-work/>
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Wed Apr 29 12:31:15 2026
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    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I have a couple of magnetic screwdrivers designed to hold a screw until
    it is just above the socket then drop it.

    When I was at school I was told you could magnetise steel by pointing it north and hitting it with a hammer, is that still correct?

    Is there a better way and how do I keep them magnestised please?

    Sometimes you want screwdrivers to be magnetic, other times you want
    them to not be magnetic, luckily there are magnetiser/demagnetisers
    available, which work through stroking over a specific pattern of
    permanent magnets, e.g.

    <https://amazon.co.uk/magnetiser-demagnetiser/dp/B017QCIU88>

    Probably available from screwstation at a higher price if you need it today?

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  • From Joe@joe@jretrading.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Apr 29 14:05:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 12:31:15 +0100
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I have a couple of magnetic screwdrivers designed to hold a screw
    until it is just above the socket then drop it.

    When I was at school I was told you could magnetise steel by
    pointing it north and hitting it with a hammer, is that still
    correct?

    Is there a better way and how do I keep them magnestised please?

    Sometimes you want screwdrivers to be magnetic, other times you want
    them to not be magnetic, luckily there are magnetiser/demagnetisers available, which work through stroking over a specific pattern of
    permanent magnets, e.g.

    <https://amazon.co.uk/magnetiser-demagnetiser/dp/B017QCIU88>

    Probably available from screwstation at a higher price if you need it
    today?


    I have one of these:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/168336156920

    Not Eagle, but many people sold them back then. It works for small
    things like screwdrivers.
    --
    Joe

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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Wed Apr 29 14:23:59 2026
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    Joe wrote:

    I have one of these:
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/168336156920

    Not Eagle, but many people sold them back then. It works for small
    things like screwdrivers.

    Looks like another example of single-insulated cable for the PAT-testing
    page on the wiki :-P

    Obviously to magnetise you just need any old magnet and stroke
    repeatedly in the same direction, but it's handy to be able to [almost] reverse the process so every screwdriver you own isn't coated in iron
    filings, hence recommending the cheapo tool that can do both ...
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  • From Harry Bloomfield Esq@harry.m1byt@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Apr 29 15:57:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 29/04/2026 12:21, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    When I was at school I was told you could magnetise steel by pointing it north and hitting it with a hammer, is that still correct?

    Is there a better way and how do I keep them magnestised please?

    That would be quite a weak magnet. Stronger would be to stroke the
    length of a screwdriver, repeatedly with the same pole of a strong
    magnet. You run the magnet along, always in the same direction, at the
    end of the stroke, draw away, and back to the start.

    You could simply stick a magnet, on the screwdriver, for a temporary
    magnet.
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Wed Apr 29 16:16:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 29/04/2026 14:23, Andy Burns wrote:
    Joe wrote:

    I have one of these:
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/168336156920

    Not Eagle, but many people sold them back then. It works for small
    things like screwdrivers.

    Looks like another example of single-insulated cable for the PAT-testing
    page on the wiki :-P

    Been around since at least 1965 (cost -u1.12.0!). See "Eagle products at
    new prices" on page 162 at <https://www.worldradiohistory.com/UK/Practical-Electronics/60s/Practical-Electronics-1965-01.pdf>.
    Later photo with old 5A 2-pin plug at <https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/eagleprod_tape_head_demagnetizer_td79.html>

    Obviously to magnetise you just need any old magnet and stroke
    repeatedly in the same direction, but it's handy to be able to [almost] reverse the process so every screwdriver you own isn't coated in iron filings, hence recommending the cheapo tool that can do both ...

    I would guess, though I've never tried, that leaving it very close to an
    AC mains motor or even an old transformer would demagnetise it in time.
    --
    Jeff
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  • From jkn@jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Wed Apr 29 16:29:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 29/04/2026 16:16, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 29/04/2026 14:23, Andy Burns wrote:
    Joe wrote:

    I have one of these:
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/168336156920

    Not Eagle, but many people sold them back then. It works for small
    things like screwdrivers.

    Looks like another example of single-insulated cable for the PAT-testing
    page on the wiki :-P

    Been around since at least 1965 (cost -u1.12.0!). See "Eagle products at
    new prices" on page 162 at <https://www.worldradiohistory.com/UK/ Practical-Electronics/60s/Practical-Electronics-1965-01.pdf>. Later
    photo with old 5A 2-pin plug at <https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/ eagleprod_tape_head_demagnetizer_td79.html>

    Obviously to magnetise you just need any old magnet and stroke
    repeatedly in the same direction, but it's handy to be able to [almost]
    reverse the process so every screwdriver you own isn't coated in iron
    filings, hence recommending the cheapo tool that can do both ...

    I would guess, though I've never tried, that leaving it very close to an
    AC mains motor or even an old transformer would demagnetise it in time.

    You are supposed to slowly draw the item away from the transformer, or whatever, up to <some distance>, before powering off. Otherwise the item
    is likely to get re-magnetised!

    I have no idea how slowly, or how far, you are supposed to do this. The instructions for those tape head demagnetisers used to explain it.
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  • From alan_m@junk@admac.myzen.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Wed Apr 29 18:33:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 29/04/2026 12:21, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I have a couple of magnetic screwdrivers designed to hold a screw until
    it is just above the socket then drop it.

    When I was at school I was told you could magnetise steel by pointing it north and hitting it with a hammer, is that still correct?

    Is there a better way and how do I keep them magnestised please?


    Stroke them on a magnet. Speaker magnets are good as are the magnets
    retrieved t=from hard disks but any decent magnet will do.
    --
    mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Apr 29 19:49:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 29/04/2026 12:31, Andy Burns wrote:
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I have a couple of magnetic screwdrivers designed to hold a screw
    until it is just above the socket then drop it.

    When I was at school I was told you could magnetise steel by pointing
    it north and hitting it with a hammer, is that still correct?

    Is there a better way and how do I keep them magnestised please?

    Sometimes you want screwdrivers to be magnetic, other times you want
    them to not be magnetic, luckily there are magnetiser/demagnetisers available, which work through stroking over a specific pattern of
    permanent magnets, e.g.

    <https://amazon.co.uk/magnetiser-demagnetiser/dp/B017QCIU88>

    Probably available from screwstation at a higher price if you need it
    today?

    Tried it with some brass screws. Useless.

    Re: that comment about sometimes you want a magnetic screwdriver, and sometimes you don't. I suppose you could just magnetise the screw, if
    you only have a few to deal with.
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Charles Hope@clh@candehope.me.uk to uk.d-i-y on Wed Apr 29 19:30:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 29/04/2026 19:49, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 29/04/2026 12:31, Andy Burns wrote:
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I have a couple of magnetic screwdrivers designed to hold a screw
    until it is just above the socket then drop it.

    When I was at school I was told you could magnetise steel by pointing
    it north and hitting it with a hammer, is that still correct?

    Is there a better way and how do I keep them magnestised please?

    Sometimes you want screwdrivers to be magnetic, other times you want
    them to not be magnetic, luckily there are magnetiser/demagnetisers
    available, which work through stroking over a specific pattern of
    permanent magnets, e.g.

    <https://amazon.co.uk/magnetiser-demagnetiser/dp/B017QCIU88>

    Probably available from screwstation at a higher price if you need it
    today?

    Tried it with some brass screws.-a Useless.

    not surprising _Brass isn't magnetic

    Re: that comment about sometimes you want a magnetic screwdriver, and sometimes you don't.-a I suppose you could just magnetise the screw, if
    you only have a few to deal with.


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  • From somewhere else@"somewhere else"@gmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Wed Apr 29 20:51:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Charles Hope wrote:
    On 29/04/2026 19:49, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 29/04/2026 12:31, Andy Burns wrote:
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I have a couple of magnetic screwdrivers designed to hold a screw
    until it is just above the socket then drop it.

    When I was at school I was told you could magnetise steel by
    pointing it north and hitting it with a hammer, is that still correct? >>>>
    Is there a better way and how do I keep them magnestised please?

    Sometimes you want screwdrivers to be magnetic, other times you want
    them to not be magnetic, luckily there are magnetiser/demagnetisers
    available, which work through stroking over a specific pattern of
    permanent magnets, e.g.

    <https://amazon.co.uk/magnetiser-demagnetiser/dp/B017QCIU88>

    Probably available from screwstation at a higher price if you need it
    today?

    Tried it with some brass screws.-a Useless.

    not surprising _Brass isn't magnetic
    I suspect (hope!) that it was meant to bring a smile

    Re: that comment about sometimes you want a magnetic screwdriver, and
    sometimes you don't.-a I suppose you could just magnetise the screw, if
    you only have a few to deal with.



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  • From John Rumm@see.my.signature@nowhere.null to uk.d-i-y on Thu Apr 30 00:37:47 2026
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    On 29/04/2026 12:21, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I have a couple of magnetic screwdrivers designed to hold a screw until
    it is just above the socket then drop it.

    When I was at school I was told you could magnetise steel by pointing it north and hitting it with a hammer, is that still correct?

    Yes - handy for making an improvised compass, nut no much use for
    holding a screw.

    Is there a better way and how do I keep them magnestised please?

    Magnetise as required; stick a strong magnet to the shaft near the
    handle and slide along and off the tip - rather like you were steeling a knife. Repeat a few times.

    (old hard drive magnets work well)

    You can also get little plastic cased magnetisers designed for the job,
    that are also able to demagnetise.
    --
    Cheers,

    John.

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  • From Marland@gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sat May 2 14:25:10 2026
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    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I have a couple of magnetic screwdrivers designed to hold a screw until it is just above the socket then drop it.

    When I was at school I was told you could magnetise steel by pointing it north and hitting it with a hammer, is that still correct?

    Is there a better way and how do I keep them magnestised please?


    I sometimes find sticking a blob of Black Tack on the end of the
    screwdriver is just as effective.
    Has to be the genuine article though , the ebay / Amazon imitations are not
    as good.


    GH
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.d-i-y on Mon May 4 13:15:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 15:57:44 +0100, Harry Bloomfield Esq <harry.m1byt@outlook.com> wrote:

    On 29/04/2026 12:21, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    When I was at school I was told you could magnetise steel by pointing it
    north and hitting it with a hammer, is that still correct?

    Is there a better way and how do I keep them magnestised please?

    That would be quite a weak magnet. Stronger would be to stroke the
    length of a screwdriver, repeatedly with the same pole of a strong
    magnet. You run the magnet along, always in the same direction, at the
    end of the stroke, draw away, and back to the start.

    You could simply stick a magnet, on the screwdriver, for a temporary
    magnet.

    This is exactly what I do. Tool steel seems very good at channeling
    the field of the attached magnet to the tip of the driver when you
    want it and very good at forgetting it was ever magnetised when you
    take the magnet away again. That's ideal for me.

    Nick
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.d-i-y on Mon May 4 13:17:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 20:51:16 +0100, Sparky <"somewhere
    else"@gmail.com> wrote:

    Charles Hope wrote:
    On 29/04/2026 19:49, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 29/04/2026 12:31, Andy Burns wrote:
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I have a couple of magnetic screwdrivers designed to hold a screw
    until it is just above the socket then drop it.

    When I was at school I was told you could magnetise steel by
    pointing it north and hitting it with a hammer, is that still correct? >>>>>
    Is there a better way and how do I keep them magnestised please?

    Sometimes you want screwdrivers to be magnetic, other times you want
    them to not be magnetic, luckily there are magnetiser/demagnetisers
    available, which work through stroking over a specific pattern of
    permanent magnets, e.g.

    <https://amazon.co.uk/magnetiser-demagnetiser/dp/B017QCIU88>

    Probably available from screwstation at a higher price if you need it >>>> today?

    Tried it with some brass screws.a Useless.

    not surprising _Brass isn't magnetic
    I suspect (hope!) that it was meant to bring a smile

    Unless our Mr Plusnet has recently undergone a sudden personality
    transplant, I'm convinced of that.

    <snip>
    Nick
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.d-i-y on Mon May 4 19:35:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 04/05/2026 13:17, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 20:51:16 +0100, Sparky <"somewhere
    else"@gmail.com> wrote:

    Charles Hope wrote:
    On 29/04/2026 19:49, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 29/04/2026 12:31, Andy Burns wrote:
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I have a couple of magnetic screwdrivers designed to hold a screw
    until it is just above the socket then drop it.

    When I was at school I was told you could magnetise steel by
    pointing it north and hitting it with a hammer, is that still correct? >>>>>>
    Is there a better way and how do I keep them magnestised please?

    Sometimes you want screwdrivers to be magnetic, other times you want >>>>> them to not be magnetic, luckily there are magnetiser/demagnetisers
    available, which work through stroking over a specific pattern of
    permanent magnets, e.g.

    <https://amazon.co.uk/magnetiser-demagnetiser/dp/B017QCIU88>

    Probably available from screwstation at a higher price if you need it >>>>> today?

    Tried it with some brass screws.-a Useless.

    not surprising _Brass isn't magnetic
    I suspect (hope!) that it was meant to bring a smile

    Unless our Mr Plusnet has recently undergone a sudden personality
    transplant, I'm convinced of that.

    <snip>
    Nick

    I couldn't possibly comment.
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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