On 21/04/2026 07:07, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
On 20/04/2026 21:37, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 09:17:48 +0100, Abandoned Trolley
<that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote:
spraying anything through the keyhole is a waste of time
But it's so quick and simple to do that it's worth doing it first
anyway. It may do nothing, as you imply, but it just may solve the
problem.
ok - so a waste of not much time ?
The whole point of a fine spray is that it gets everywhere inside a lock mechanism. There really is nothing to lose.
On 25/04/2026 16:51, Fredxx wrote:
On 21/04/2026 07:07, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
On 20/04/2026 21:37, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 09:17:48 +0100, Abandoned Trolley
<that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote:
spraying anything through the keyhole is a waste of time
But it's so quick and simple to do that it's worth doing it first
anyway. It may do nothing, as you imply, but it just may solve the
problem.
ok - so a waste of not much time ?
The whole point of a fine spray is that it gets everywhere inside a
lock mechanism. There really is nothing to lose.
I agree, but if the problem is a broken or misplaced spring on one of
the levers then you are not going to find out by doing that
In which case the OP is advised to simply change the lock rather than
open the lock that is not designed to be repaired and has no (easily) replaceable parts.
On 26/04/2026 08:00, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
On 25/04/2026 16:51, Fredxx wrote:
On 21/04/2026 07:07, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
On 20/04/2026 21:37, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 09:17:48 +0100, Abandoned Trolley
<that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote:
spraying anything through the keyhole is a waste of time
But it's so quick and simple to do that it's worth doing it first
anyway. It may do nothing, as you imply, but it just may solve
the problem.
ok - so a waste of not much time ?
The whole point of a fine spray is that it gets everywhere inside
a lock mechanism. There really is nothing to lose.
I agree, but if the problem is a broken or misplaced spring on one
of the levers then you are not going to find out by doing that
I think that you are in effect confirming is that a spray can un-jam
a mechanism but if the lock still fails to work there is likely a
component failure.
In which case the OP is advised to simply change the lock rather than
open the lock that is not designed to be repaired and has no (easily) replaceable parts.
On Fri, 1 May 2026 11:34:39 +0100
Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:
On 26/04/2026 08:00, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
On 25/04/2026 16:51, Fredxx wrote:
On 21/04/2026 07:07, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
On 20/04/2026 21:37, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 09:17:48 +0100, Abandoned Trolley
<that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote:
spraying anything through the keyhole is a waste of time
But it's so quick and simple to do that it's worth doing it first
anyway. It may do nothing, as you imply, but it just may solve
the problem.
ok - so a waste of not much time ?
The whole point of a fine spray is that it gets everywhere inside
a lock mechanism. There really is nothing to lose.
I agree, but if the problem is a broken or misplaced spring on one
of the levers then you are not going to find out by doing that
I think that you are in effect confirming is that a spray can un-jam
a mechanism but if the lock still fails to work there is likely a
component failure.
In which case the OP is advised to simply change the lock rather than
open the lock that is not designed to be repaired and has no (easily)
replaceable parts.
uk.d-i-y, right?
On 26/04/2026 08:00, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
On 25/04/2026 16:51, Fredxx wrote:
On 21/04/2026 07:07, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
On 20/04/2026 21:37, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 09:17:48 +0100, Abandoned Trolley
<that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote:
spraying anything through the keyhole is a waste of time
But it's so quick and simple to do that it's worth doing it first
anyway. It may do nothing, as you imply, but it just may solve the
problem.
ok - so a waste of not much time ?
The whole point of a fine spray is that it gets everywhere inside a
lock mechanism. There really is nothing to lose.
I agree, but if the problem is a broken or misplaced spring on one of
the levers then you are not going to find out by doing that
I think that you are in effect confirming is that a spray can un-jam a mechanism but if the lock still fails to work there is likely a
component failure.
In which case the OP is advised to simply change the lock rather than
open the lock that is not designed to be repaired and has no (easily) replaceable parts.
On 01/05/2026 15:12, Joe wrote:
On Fri, 1 May 2026 11:34:39 +0100
Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:
On 26/04/2026 08:00, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
On 25/04/2026 16:51, Fredxx wrote:
On 21/04/2026 07:07, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
On 20/04/2026 21:37, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 09:17:48 +0100, Abandoned Trolley
<that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote:
spraying anything through the keyhole is a waste of time
But it's so quick and simple to do that it's worth doing it first >>>>>>> anyway. It may do nothing, as you imply, but it just may solve
the problem.
ok - so a waste of not much time ?
The whole point of a fine spray is that it gets everywhere inside
a lock mechanism. There really is nothing to lose.
I agree, but if the problem is a broken or misplaced spring on one
of the levers then you are not going to find out by doing that
I think that you are in effect confirming is that a spray can un-jam
a mechanism but if the lock still fails to work there is likely a
component failure.
In which case the OP is advised to simply change the lock rather than
open the lock that is not designed to be repaired and has no (easily)
replaceable parts.
uk.d-i-y, right?
Changing a lock is DIY. Well for some at least. I regard it as a trivial process.
I would be taking the lock apart out of interest if anything but
conscious a replacement is perhaps a better solution than trying to fix something that is heavily worn.
YMMV
On 01/05/2026 15:12, Joe wrote:
On Fri, 1 May 2026 11:34:39 +0100
Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:
On 26/04/2026 08:00, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
On 25/04/2026 16:51, Fredxx wrote:
On 21/04/2026 07:07, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
On 20/04/2026 21:37, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 09:17:48 +0100, Abandoned Trolley
<that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote:
spraying anything through the keyhole is a waste of time
But it's so quick and simple to do that it's worth doing it
first anyway. It may do nothing, as you imply, but it just may
solve the problem.
ok - so a waste of not much time ?
The whole point of a fine spray is that it gets everywhere inside
a lock mechanism. There really is nothing to lose.
I agree, but if the problem is a broken or misplaced spring on one
of the levers then you are not going to find out by doing that
I think that you are in effect confirming is that a spray can
un-jam a mechanism but if the lock still fails to work there is
likely a component failure.
In which case the OP is advised to simply change the lock rather
than open the lock that is not designed to be repaired and has no
(easily) replaceable parts.
uk.d-i-y, right?
Changing a lock is DIY. Well for some at least. I regard it as a
trivial process.
I would be taking the lock apart out of interest if anything but
conscious a replacement is perhaps a better solution than trying to
fix something that is heavily worn.
YMMV
Changing a lock is DIY. Well for some at least. I regard it as a trivial process.
I would be taking the lock apart out of interest if anything but
conscious a replacement is perhaps a better solution than trying to fix something that is heavily worn.
I recently took a lock apart and found one of the springs has slippedI recently have taken a lock apart and found one of the springs has
out of position.
On Fri, 1 May 2026 15:21:14 +0100
Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:
On 01/05/2026 15:12, Joe wrote:And fitting a new lock that's slightly larger or doesn't have the
On Fri, 1 May 2026 11:34:39 +0100
Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:
On 26/04/2026 08:00, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
On 25/04/2026 16:51, Fredxx wrote:
On 21/04/2026 07:07, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
On 20/04/2026 21:37, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 09:17:48 +0100, Abandoned Trolley
<that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote:
spraying anything through the keyhole is a waste of time
But it's so quick and simple to do that it's worth doing it
first anyway. It may do nothing, as you imply, but it just may >>>>>>>> solve the problem.
ok - so a waste of not much time ?
The whole point of a fine spray is that it gets everywhere inside
a lock mechanism. There really is nothing to lose.
I agree, but if the problem is a broken or misplaced spring on one
of the levers then you are not going to find out by doing that
I think that you are in effect confirming is that a spray can
un-jam a mechanism but if the lock still fails to work there is
likely a component failure.
In which case the OP is advised to simply change the lock rather
than open the lock that is not designed to be repaired and has no
(easily) replaceable parts.
uk.d-i-y, right?
Changing a lock is DIY. Well for some at least. I regard it as a
trivial process.
I would be taking the lock apart out of interest if anything but
conscious a replacement is perhaps a better solution than trying to
fix something that is heavily worn.
YMMV
keyhole in quite the right place? I've done that, and I'd expect it to
be a lot more work than dismantling the lock and cleaning it, which is
likely to fix the problem. The older the lock, the smaller the chance
of getting an exact replacement. Euro-cylinder, yes, but 5-lever, no.
This is a domestic environment. I've had a moderately-priced 5-lever
locked and unlocked at least once a day on nearly all days for the last
forty years, and there is no sign of hesitation or need to wiggle the
key. I have had it apart and cleaned and lubricated it in that time, but
only once.
In which case the OP is advised to simply change the lock rather than
open the lock that is not designed to be repaired and has no (easily)
replaceable parts.
If that was true then they would assemble it with rivets instead of screws
I don't think it was true either.-a I have had a 5-lever Chubb mortice
lock on my front door for nearly 50 years.-a About 30 years ago my wife discovered that her keys which were in her pocket when she went out were
no longer in her pocket when she got back home.-a I wasn't happy with
having keys somewhere out there, so I took the mortice lock from the
door and took it to a locksmith where they opened it, took the existing lever set out, put a different lever set in and reassembled the case,
then gave me two keys that would work the new lever set.-a It was surprisingly cheap.-a I went home, put the mortice lock back in the door
and it has worked with the replacement keys ever since.
I don't think it was true either.-a I have had a 5-lever Chubb mortice
lock on my front door for nearly 50 years.-a About 30 years ago my wife
discovered that her keys which were in her pocket when she went out
were no longer in her pocket when she got back home.-a I wasn't happy
with having keys somewhere out there, so I took the mortice lock from
the door and took it to a locksmith where they opened it, took the
existing lever set out, put a different lever set in and reassembled
the case, then gave me two keys that would work the new lever set.-a It
was surprisingly cheap.-a I went home, put the mortice lock back in the
door and it has worked with the replacement keys ever since.
My local locksmith does something similar
He has a massive tray set out like a print typesetters tray which is
full of various levers so he can make up any combination you like
I imagine there must be some source of levers in the trade as I doubt if they all came from dismantled locks
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