• OS27 installed

    From Andy Hewitt@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Sep 14 20:56:16 2026
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    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother,
    although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite clicking
    the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small bug, but was confusing.

    Mac Mini, iPad Pro and iPhone 17e done, a very quick look around doesn't reveal much that's too obvious. The UI looks a little more 'contrasty',
    and the Glass look is controllable, albeit a little coarse on MacOS
    (moving it one click down makes the menu bar almost completely
    transparent). I'll probably stick with turning on 'Reduce Transparency'.

    I guess the biggest part of this update is the AI stuff, which I'm not entirely bothered about, especially if it's going to kill me off before
    I retire!

    I was most interested in the updates to Photos, but that seems to be a
    bit of a non-event for me, nothing much has really been improved or
    updated, other than the AI tools, which aren't of great interest here. Although the Cleanup tool has impressed me in its first incarnation in OS26.

    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.
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    Andy H

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Sep 14 22:32:06 2026
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    On 14.09.26 21:56, Andy Hewitt wrote:
    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother, although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite clicking
    the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small bug, but was confusing.

    Mac Mini, iPad Pro and iPhone 17e done, a very quick look around doesn't reveal much that's too obvious. The UI looks a little more 'contrasty',
    and the Glass look is controllable, albeit a little coarse on MacOS
    (moving it one click down makes the menu bar almost completely
    transparent). I'll probably stick with turning on 'Reduce Transparency'.

    I guess the biggest part of this update is the AI stuff, which I'm not entirely bothered about, especially if it's going to kill me off before
    I retire!

    I was most interested in the updates to Photos, but that seems to be a
    bit of a non-event for me, nothing much has really been improved or
    updated, other than the AI tools, which aren't of great interest here. Although the Cleanup tool has impressed me in its first incarnation in OS26.

    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.

    This is a major release update and that's all?
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  • From David B.@davidontj@gmail.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Sep 14 20:40:58 2026
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    On 14 Sep 2026 at 21:32:06 BST, "J||rg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    On 14.09.26 21:56, Andy Hewitt wrote:
    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother,
    although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite clicking
    the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small bug, but was
    confusing.

    Mac Mini, iPad Pro and iPhone 17e done, a very quick look around doesn't
    reveal much that's too obvious. The UI looks a little more 'contrasty',
    and the Glass look is controllable, albeit a little coarse on MacOS
    (moving it one click down makes the menu bar almost completely
    transparent). I'll probably stick with turning on 'Reduce Transparency'.

    I guess the biggest part of this update is the AI stuff, which I'm not
    entirely bothered about, especially if it's going to kill me off before
    I retire!

    I was most interested in the updates to Photos, but that seems to be a
    bit of a non-event for me, nothing much has really been improved or
    updated, other than the AI tools, which aren't of great interest here.
    Although the Cleanup tool has impressed me in its first incarnation in OS26. >>
    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.

    This is a major release update and that's all?


    FYI - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeDg2zHO_bQ

    From Mac Rumors
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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Sep 14 20:42:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother, although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite clicking
    the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small bug, but was confusing.

    Mac Mini, iPad Pro and iPhone 17e done, a very quick look around doesn't reveal much that's too obvious. The UI looks a little more 'contrasty',
    and the Glass look is controllable, albeit a little coarse on MacOS
    (moving it one click down makes the menu bar almost completely
    transparent). I'll probably stick with turning on 'Reduce Transparency'.

    I guess the biggest part of this update is the AI stuff, which I'm not entirely bothered about, especially if it's going to kill me off before
    I retire!

    I was most interested in the updates to Photos, but that seems to be a
    bit of a non-event for me, nothing much has really been improved or
    updated, other than the AI tools, which aren't of great interest here. Although the Cleanup tool has impressed me in its first incarnation in OS26.

    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.

    We are due an "under the hood" upgrade. The last two major versions
    introduced significant aspects and lost a bit of the consistent polish
    Apple is known for. Especially in iOS.

    A focus on stability is a good thing in my book.

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  • From Andy Hewitt@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Sep 14 22:27:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 14/09/2026 21:42, Chris wrote:
    Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother,
    although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite clicking
    the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small bug, but was
    confusing.

    Mac Mini, iPad Pro and iPhone 17e done, a very quick look around doesn't
    reveal much that's too obvious. The UI looks a little more 'contrasty',
    and the Glass look is controllable, albeit a little coarse on MacOS
    (moving it one click down makes the menu bar almost completely
    transparent). I'll probably stick with turning on 'Reduce Transparency'.

    I guess the biggest part of this update is the AI stuff, which I'm not
    entirely bothered about, especially if it's going to kill me off before
    I retire!

    I was most interested in the updates to Photos, but that seems to be a
    bit of a non-event for me, nothing much has really been improved or
    updated, other than the AI tools, which aren't of great interest here.
    Although the Cleanup tool has impressed me in its first incarnation in OS26. >>
    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.

    We are due an "under the hood" upgrade. The last two major versions introduced significant aspects and lost a bit of the consistent polish
    Apple is known for. Especially in iOS.

    A focus on stability is a good thing in my book.
    Absolutely. Take Control books likens it to the Snow Leopard update over Leopard.

    The AI stuff in the main, isn't available yet anyway. Selecting it just
    says it a Beta, and you can 'join the waiting list'.

    However, it just didn't feel like it lived up to all the hype it's been getting. Just good marketing tactics perhaps.

    It's a bloody huge update though, on the Mini it was a 27GB download,
    and has eaten half my available storage - I guess/hope that'll settle
    down after a few days.
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    Andy H

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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Sep 14 23:09:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Sep 14, 2026 at 12:56:16rC>PM MST, "Andy Hewitt" wrote <1189jh1$1rpqa$1@dont-email.me>:

    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother,
    although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite clicking
    the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small bug, but was confusing.

    I saw the same thing.

    Mac Mini, iPad Pro and iPhone 17e done, a very quick look around doesn't reveal much that's too obvious. The UI looks a little more 'contrasty',
    and the Glass look is controllable, albeit a little coarse on MacOS
    (moving it one click down makes the menu bar almost completely
    transparent). I'll probably stick with turning on 'Reduce Transparency'.

    I guess the biggest part of this update is the AI stuff, which I'm not entirely bothered about, especially if it's going to kill me off before
    I retire!

    I was most interested in the updates to Photos, but that seems to be a
    bit of a non-event for me, nothing much has really been improved or
    updated, other than the AI tools, which aren't of great interest here. Although the Cleanup tool has impressed me in its first incarnation in OS26.

    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.

    That is about where I am... but have barely touched it.
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  • From RJH@patchmoney@gmx.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 15 02:16:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 14 Sep 2026 at 20:56:16 BST, Andy Hewitt wrote:

    I guess the biggest part of this update is the AI stuff, which I'm not entirely bothered about, especially if it's going to kill me off before
    I retire!


    Can't be much worse than the 'AI lite' efforts so far - predictive answers in texts for example. We'll see when it's implemented.

    I was most interested in the updates to Photos, but that seems to be a
    bit of a non-event for me, nothing much has really been improved or
    updated, other than the AI tools, which aren't of great interest here. Although the Cleanup tool has impressed me in its first incarnation in OS26.

    I can't see much change on the surface. Reframe is amusing - changes the position of the camera. It did a very impressive job of recreating a
    background previously concealed as I moved the camera to the side of a
    subject. It used parts from other areas of the photo, including the '20' of a date. Except the date now reads '2020' whereas in reality it was 2026. Looks good . . . but wrong :-)
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    Cheers, Rob
    Sheffield, UK
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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 15 02:42:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
    On 14/09/2026 21:42, Chris wrote:
    Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother,
    although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite clicking
    the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small bug, but was
    confusing.

    Mac Mini, iPad Pro and iPhone 17e done, a very quick look around doesn't >>> reveal much that's too obvious. The UI looks a little more 'contrasty',
    and the Glass look is controllable, albeit a little coarse on MacOS
    (moving it one click down makes the menu bar almost completely
    transparent). I'll probably stick with turning on 'Reduce Transparency'. >>>
    I guess the biggest part of this update is the AI stuff, which I'm not
    entirely bothered about, especially if it's going to kill me off before
    I retire!

    I was most interested in the updates to Photos, but that seems to be a
    bit of a non-event for me, nothing much has really been improved or
    updated, other than the AI tools, which aren't of great interest here.
    Although the Cleanup tool has impressed me in its first incarnation in OS26.

    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.

    We are due an "under the hood" upgrade. The last two major versions
    introduced significant aspects and lost a bit of the consistent polish
    Apple is known for. Especially in iOS.

    A focus on stability is a good thing in my book.
    Absolutely. Take Control books likens it to the Snow Leopard update over Leopard.

    The AI stuff in the main, isn't available yet anyway. Selecting it just
    says it a Beta, and you can 'join the waiting list'.

    However, it just didn't feel like it lived up to all the hype it's been getting. Just good marketing tactics perhaps.

    It's a bloody huge update though, on the Mini it was a 27GB download,
    and has eaten half my available storage - I guess/hope that'll settle
    down after a few days.

    That's a real concern for me on my phone. I've been juggling with 10-12GB
    of "free" space with AI disabled.

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  • From Mark@captain.black@gmail.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 15 05:37:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
    On 14/09/2026 21:42, Chris wrote:
    Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother,
    although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite clicking >>>> the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small bug, but was >>>> confusing.

    Mac Mini, iPad Pro and iPhone 17e done, a very quick look around doesn't >>>> reveal much that's too obvious. The UI looks a little more 'contrasty', >>>> and the Glass look is controllable, albeit a little coarse on MacOS
    (moving it one click down makes the menu bar almost completely
    transparent). I'll probably stick with turning on 'Reduce Transparency'. >>>>
    I guess the biggest part of this update is the AI stuff, which I'm not >>>> entirely bothered about, especially if it's going to kill me off before >>>> I retire!

    I was most interested in the updates to Photos, but that seems to be a >>>> bit of a non-event for me, nothing much has really been improved or
    updated, other than the AI tools, which aren't of great interest here. >>>> Although the Cleanup tool has impressed me in its first incarnation in OS26.

    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.

    We are due an "under the hood" upgrade. The last two major versions
    introduced significant aspects and lost a bit of the consistent polish
    Apple is known for. Especially in iOS.

    A focus on stability is a good thing in my book.
    Absolutely. Take Control books likens it to the Snow Leopard update over
    Leopard.

    The AI stuff in the main, isn't available yet anyway. Selecting it just
    says it a Beta, and you can 'join the waiting list'.

    However, it just didn't feel like it lived up to all the hype it's been
    getting. Just good marketing tactics perhaps.

    It's a bloody huge update though, on the Mini it was a 27GB download,
    and has eaten half my available storage - I guess/hope that'll settle
    down after a few days.

    That's a real concern for me on my phone. I've been juggling with 10-12GB
    of "free" space with AI disabled.



    Seems you can turn off the rCynewrCO Siri ->

    screen time > privacy restrictions > siri > allowed siri version >

    Lots of people claiming great improvements on older (11/12/13) iPhones with
    iOS 27.
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  • From Alan B@alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 15 06:49:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 15 Sep 2026 at 06:37:10 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
    On 14/09/2026 21:42, Chris wrote:
    Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother, >>>>> although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite clicking >>>>> the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small bug, but was >>>>> confusing.

    Mac Mini, iPad Pro and iPhone 17e done, a very quick look around doesn't >>>>> reveal much that's too obvious. The UI looks a little more 'contrasty', >>>>> and the Glass look is controllable, albeit a little coarse on MacOS
    (moving it one click down makes the menu bar almost completely
    transparent). I'll probably stick with turning on 'Reduce Transparency'. >>>>>
    I guess the biggest part of this update is the AI stuff, which I'm not >>>>> entirely bothered about, especially if it's going to kill me off before >>>>> I retire!

    I was most interested in the updates to Photos, but that seems to be a >>>>> bit of a non-event for me, nothing much has really been improved or
    updated, other than the AI tools, which aren't of great interest here. >>>>> Although the Cleanup tool has impressed me in its first incarnation in OS26.

    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.

    We are due an "under the hood" upgrade. The last two major versions
    introduced significant aspects and lost a bit of the consistent polish >>>> Apple is known for. Especially in iOS.

    A focus on stability is a good thing in my book.
    Absolutely. Take Control books likens it to the Snow Leopard update over >>> Leopard.

    The AI stuff in the main, isn't available yet anyway. Selecting it just
    says it a Beta, and you can 'join the waiting list'.

    However, it just didn't feel like it lived up to all the hype it's been
    getting. Just good marketing tactics perhaps.

    It's a bloody huge update though, on the Mini it was a 27GB download,
    and has eaten half my available storage - I guess/hope that'll settle
    down after a few days.

    That's a real concern for me on my phone. I've been juggling with 10-12GB
    of "free" space with AI disabled.



    Seems you can turn off the rCynewrCO Siri ->

    screen time > privacy restrictions > siri > allowed siri version >

    Lots of people claiming great improvements on older (11/12/13) iPhones with iOS 27.

    So there's hope yet for my old 11 then ;-) Thr 16e updated succesfully but
    took yonks but it was a double figure GB download - all this AI stuff being
    the culprit no doubt. I need to do a series of backups before I touch GG but, based on my experience with the Beta on my older silicon Mac in a separate volume set, I hope there will be no issues.
    --
    Cheers, Alan
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  • From Alan B@alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 15 07:39:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 15 Sep 2026 at 06:37:10 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
    On 14/09/2026 21:42, Chris wrote:
    Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother, >>>>>> although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite clicking >>>>>> the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small bug, but was >>>>>> confusing.

    Mac Mini, iPad Pro and iPhone 17e done, a very quick look around doesn't >>>>>> reveal much that's too obvious. The UI looks a little more 'contrasty', >>>>>> and the Glass look is controllable, albeit a little coarse on MacOS >>>>>> (moving it one click down makes the menu bar almost completely
    transparent). I'll probably stick with turning on 'Reduce Transparency'. >>>>>>
    I guess the biggest part of this update is the AI stuff, which I'm not >>>>>> entirely bothered about, especially if it's going to kill me off before >>>>>> I retire!

    I was most interested in the updates to Photos, but that seems to be a >>>>>> bit of a non-event for me, nothing much has really been improved or >>>>>> updated, other than the AI tools, which aren't of great interest here. >>>>>> Although the Cleanup tool has impressed me in its first incarnation in OS26.

    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.

    We are due an "under the hood" upgrade. The last two major versions
    introduced significant aspects and lost a bit of the consistent polish >>>>> Apple is known for. Especially in iOS.

    A focus on stability is a good thing in my book.
    Absolutely. Take Control books likens it to the Snow Leopard update over >>>> Leopard.

    The AI stuff in the main, isn't available yet anyway. Selecting it just >>>> says it a Beta, and you can 'join the waiting list'.

    However, it just didn't feel like it lived up to all the hype it's been >>>> getting. Just good marketing tactics perhaps.

    It's a bloody huge update though, on the Mini it was a 27GB download,
    and has eaten half my available storage - I guess/hope that'll settle
    down after a few days.

    That's a real concern for me on my phone. I've been juggling with 10-12GB >>> of "free" space with AI disabled.



    Seems you can turn off the rCynewrCO Siri ->

    screen time > privacy restrictions > siri > allowed siri version >

    Lots of people claiming great improvements on older (11/12/13) iPhones with >> iOS 27.

    So there's hope yet for my old 11 then ;-) Thr 16e updated succesfully but took yonks but it was a double figure GB download - all this AI stuff being the culprit no doubt. I need to do a series of backups before I touch GG but, based on my experience with the Beta on my older silicon Mac in a separate volume set, I hope there will be no issues.

    Talking of GG I see Clarus is sort of back ;-)

    <https://wordpress.com/reader/feeds/33050143/posts/6183363609>

    Got to be worth upgrading just for that!
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    Cheers, Alan
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  • From Mark@captain.black@gmail.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 15 08:15:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 15 Sep 2026 at 06:37:10 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
    On 14/09/2026 21:42, Chris wrote:
    Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother, >>>>>> although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite clicking >>>>>> the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small bug, but was >>>>>> confusing.

    Mac Mini, iPad Pro and iPhone 17e done, a very quick look around doesn't >>>>>> reveal much that's too obvious. The UI looks a little more 'contrasty', >>>>>> and the Glass look is controllable, albeit a little coarse on MacOS >>>>>> (moving it one click down makes the menu bar almost completely
    transparent). I'll probably stick with turning on 'Reduce Transparency'. >>>>>>
    I guess the biggest part of this update is the AI stuff, which I'm not >>>>>> entirely bothered about, especially if it's going to kill me off before >>>>>> I retire!

    I was most interested in the updates to Photos, but that seems to be a >>>>>> bit of a non-event for me, nothing much has really been improved or >>>>>> updated, other than the AI tools, which aren't of great interest here. >>>>>> Although the Cleanup tool has impressed me in its first incarnation in OS26.

    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.

    We are due an "under the hood" upgrade. The last two major versions
    introduced significant aspects and lost a bit of the consistent polish >>>>> Apple is known for. Especially in iOS.

    A focus on stability is a good thing in my book.
    Absolutely. Take Control books likens it to the Snow Leopard update over >>>> Leopard.

    The AI stuff in the main, isn't available yet anyway. Selecting it just >>>> says it a Beta, and you can 'join the waiting list'.

    However, it just didn't feel like it lived up to all the hype it's been >>>> getting. Just good marketing tactics perhaps.

    It's a bloody huge update though, on the Mini it was a 27GB download,
    and has eaten half my available storage - I guess/hope that'll settle
    down after a few days.

    That's a real concern for me on my phone. I've been juggling with 10-12GB >>> of "free" space with AI disabled.



    Seems you can turn off the rCynewrCO Siri ->

    screen time > privacy restrictions > siri > allowed siri version >

    Lots of people claiming great improvements on older (11/12/13) iPhones with >> iOS 27.

    So there's hope yet for my old 11 then ;-) Thr 16e updated succesfully but took yonks but it was a double figure GB download - all this AI stuff being the culprit no doubt. I need to do a series of backups before I touch GG but, based on my experience with the Beta on my older silicon Mac in a separate volume set, I hope there will be no issues.


    Given the feedback IrCOve seen of GG I am VERY tempted (M1 MBAs) however,
    Siri AI canrCOt be turned off there (yet?). Some people have recorded an
    extra 20GB install req for it. That would decimate my free space!
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    Cheers rCa Mark
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  • From Martin S Taylor@hogwash@mRaErMtOiVnEstaylor.TcHoImS to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 15 09:43:12 2026
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    On 14 Sep 2026 at 20:56:16 BST, Andy Hewitt wrote:

    I can't see much change on the surface.
    IrCOm so pleased to see those ultra-rounded cornerson windows have gone.

    But it has left the rCytraffic lightrCO dots inconsistently placed across different apps. In Signal theyrCOre too near the top, in Hogwasher and MailMate theyrCOre too near the top *and* theyrCOre too small, in Affinity theyrCOre too far to the left...

    LetrCOs hope developers sort this out soon. (I have faith in Affinity and Signal, less so in Hogwasher and MailMate).

    Apple used to pride themselves on a consistent and beautiful user interface (*sigh*).

    MST

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  • From Martin S Taylor@hogwash@mRaErMtOiVnEstaylor.TcHoImS to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 15 09:55:22 2026
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    On 14 Sep 2026, Andy Hewitt wrote
    (in article <1189jh1$1rpqa$1@dont-email.me>):

    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.

    ThererCOs also a curious change in the menu bar. My Mac has an Ethernet connection, and thererCOs now an Ethernet symbol where the WiFi symbol used to be (fair enough).

    But I like to keep WiFi switched on (to use AirDrop) but not connected. Yet if I do this, thererCOs an *animated* WiFi symbol in the menu bar which is massively distracting. Grump.

    MST

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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 15 10:43:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 02:16:40 -0000 (UTC), RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
    wrote:
    <snip>
    It did a very impressive job of recreating a
    background previously concealed as I moved the camera to the side of a >subject. It used parts from other areas of the photo, including the '20' of a >date. Except the date now reads '2020' whereas in reality it was 2026. Looks >good . . . but wrong :-)

    AI in a nutshell.

    Nick
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  • From Andy Hewitt@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 15 15:59:42 2026
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    On 15/09/2026 09:55, Martin S Taylor wrote:
    On 14 Sep 2026, Andy Hewitt wrote
    (in article <1189jh1$1rpqa$1@dont-email.me>):

    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.

    ThererCOs also a curious change in the menu bar. My Mac has an Ethernet connection, and thererCOs now an Ethernet symbol where the WiFi symbol used to be (fair enough).

    I've only got WiFi now, I've got a new Sky router on FF broadband, and
    have relocated it more centrally in the house. It connects at 867 on my
    Mini now, and exceeds the speeds I was getting using the old BT HomePlugs.

    But I like to keep WiFi switched on (to use AirDrop) but not connected. Yet if I do this, thererCOs an *animated* WiFi symbol in the menu bar which is massively distracting. Grump.


    OK, not seeing that on my WiFi symbol here, perhaps it only does it when
    both are in use?
    --
    Andy H

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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 16 03:01:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Sep 15, 2026 at 12:39:07rC>AM MST, "Alan B" wrote <118asmr$27vju$1@alphabravo.eternal-september.org>:

    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 15 Sep 2026 at 06:37:10 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
    On 14/09/2026 21:42, Chris wrote:
    Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother, >>>>>>> although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite clicking >>>>>>> the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small bug, but was >>>>>>> confusing.

    Mac Mini, iPad Pro and iPhone 17e done, a very quick look around doesn't
    reveal much that's too obvious. The UI looks a little more 'contrasty', >>>>>>> and the Glass look is controllable, albeit a little coarse on MacOS >>>>>>> (moving it one click down makes the menu bar almost completely
    transparent). I'll probably stick with turning on 'Reduce Transparency'.

    I guess the biggest part of this update is the AI stuff, which I'm not >>>>>>> entirely bothered about, especially if it's going to kill me off before >>>>>>> I retire!

    I was most interested in the updates to Photos, but that seems to be a >>>>>>> bit of a non-event for me, nothing much has really been improved or >>>>>>> updated, other than the AI tools, which aren't of great interest here. >>>>>>> Although the Cleanup tool has impressed me in its first incarnation in OS26.

    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.

    We are due an "under the hood" upgrade. The last two major versions >>>>>> introduced significant aspects and lost a bit of the consistent polish >>>>>> Apple is known for. Especially in iOS.

    A focus on stability is a good thing in my book.
    Absolutely. Take Control books likens it to the Snow Leopard update over >>>>> Leopard.

    The AI stuff in the main, isn't available yet anyway. Selecting it just >>>>> says it a Beta, and you can 'join the waiting list'.

    However, it just didn't feel like it lived up to all the hype it's been >>>>> getting. Just good marketing tactics perhaps.

    It's a bloody huge update though, on the Mini it was a 27GB download, >>>>> and has eaten half my available storage - I guess/hope that'll settle >>>>> down after a few days.

    That's a real concern for me on my phone. I've been juggling with 10-12GB >>>> of "free" space with AI disabled.



    Seems you can turn off the rCynewrCO Siri ->

    screen time > privacy restrictions > siri > allowed siri version >

    Lots of people claiming great improvements on older (11/12/13) iPhones with >>> iOS 27.

    So there's hope yet for my old 11 then ;-) Thr 16e updated succesfully but >> took yonks but it was a double figure GB download - all this AI stuff being >> the culprit no doubt. I need to do a series of backups before I touch GG but,
    based on my experience with the Beta on my older silicon Mac in a separate >> volume set, I hope there will be no issues.

    Talking of GG I see Clarus is sort of back ;-)

    <https://wordpress.com/reader/feeds/33050143/posts/6183363609>

    Got to be worth upgrading just for that!

    But... but... be he is not 2D any more!
    --
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  • From Martin S Taylor@hogwash@mRaErMtOiVnEstaylor.TcHoImS to uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 16 10:56:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 15 Sep 2026, Andy Hewitt wrote
    (in article <118bmgv$2hkl7$1@dont-email.me>):

    ThererCOs also a curious change in the menu bar. My Mac has an Ethernet connection, and thererCOs now an Ethernet symbol where the WiFi symbol used to be (fair enough).

    I've only got WiFi now, I've got a new Sky router on FF broadband, and
    have relocated it more centrally in the house. It connects at 867 on my
    Mini now, and exceeds the speeds I was getting using the old BT HomePlugs.

    ThatrCOs impressive. IrCOm connected directly to my fibre-modem, and get about 450 Mb/s.


    But I like to keep WiFi switched on (to use AirDrop) but not connected. Yet if I do this, thererCOs an *animated* WiFi symbol in the menu bar which is massively distracting. Grump.

    OK, not seeing that on my WiFi symbol here, perhaps it only does it when
    both are in use?

    It seems to have sorted itself out, and now I only see the Ethernet symbol. Sorry for the false alarm.

    MST


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  • From Andy Hewitt@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 16 15:58:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 16/09/2026 04:01, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Sep 15, 2026 at 12:39:07rC>AM MST, "Alan B" wrote

    [..]

    Talking of GG I see Clarus is sort of back ;-)

    <https://wordpress.com/reader/feeds/33050143/posts/6183363609>

    Got to be worth upgrading just for that!

    But... but... be he is not 2D any more!

    It just took me to a 'Create an Account' page.
    --
    Andy H

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  • From Andy Hewitt@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 16 16:04:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac



    On 16/09/2026 10:56, Martin S Taylor wrote:
    On 15 Sep 2026, Andy Hewitt wrote
    (in article <118bmgv$2hkl7$1@dont-email.me>):

    ThererCOs also a curious change in the menu bar. My Mac has an Ethernet connection, and thererCOs now an Ethernet symbol where the WiFi symbol used to be (fair enough).

    I've only got WiFi now, I've got a new Sky router on FF broadband, and
    have relocated it more centrally in the house. It connects at 867 on my
    Mini now, and exceeds the speeds I was getting using the old BT HomePlugs.

    ThatrCOs impressive. IrCOm connected directly to my fibre-modem, and get about 450 Mb/s.

    I haven't measured any local network speeds though, it's just what it
    shows in the drop-down menu as the connection speed.

    I've put the router on top of a cabinet in the lounge (using a longer
    Ethernet cable to the FF box on the wall), which is pretty central in
    our two bed. The Mini is not far away in the back bedroom. Of course
    there are walls and such in between, but there always were when the
    router was near the front window, it's just nearer now.

    It was varying between 300-450 Mb/s before (probably depending the the
    TV being switched on or not).


    But I like to keep WiFi switched on (to use AirDrop) but not connected. Yet if I do this, thererCOs an *animated* WiFi symbol in the menu bar which is massively distracting. Grump.

    OK, not seeing that on my WiFi symbol here, perhaps it only does it when
    both are in use?

    It seems to have sorted itself out, and now I only see the Ethernet symbol. Sorry for the false alarm.

    OK, fair enough.
    --
    Andy H

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  • From Alan B@alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid to uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 16 15:19:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 16 Sep 2026 at 15:58:08 BST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

    It just took me to a 'Create an Account' page.

    Try this link:

    <https://eclecticlight.co/2026/09/15/finding-your-feet-in-golden-gate/>
    --
    Cheers, Alan
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  • From Andy H@no_email@invalid.invalid to uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 16 15:48:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 16 Sep 2026 at 15:58:08 BST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

    It just took me to a 'Create an Account' page.

    Try this link:

    <https://eclecticlight.co/2026/09/15/finding-your-feet-in-golden-gate/>

    Ok, got it. Thanks EfOe
    --
    rCo
    Andy H
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  • From Andy Hewitt@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 16 17:57:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 16/09/2026 16:48, Andy H wrote:
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 16 Sep 2026 at 15:58:08 BST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

    It just took me to a 'Create an Account' page.

    Try this link:

    <https://eclecticlight.co/2026/09/15/finding-your-feet-in-golden-gate/>

    Ok, got it. Thanks EfOe

    Had a play with that, so childish for someone in their 60s ;-)

    I can't get it to work on MacOS, dragging the scroll bar doesn't work.
    Perhaps it needs a touch pad.

    It's there on the iPhone and iPad though. Nice to see the old chap back
    again.

    (took me a while to work out why the search bar didn't work - doh!)
    --
    Andy H

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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 16 20:08:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Sep 16, 2026 at 7:58:08rC>AM MST, "Andy Hewitt" wrote <118eaq0$3fqhh$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 16/09/2026 04:01, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Sep 15, 2026 at 12:39:07rC>AM MST, "Alan B" wrote

    [..]

    Talking of GG I see Clarus is sort of back ;-)

    <https://wordpress.com/reader/feeds/33050143/posts/6183363609>

    Got to be worth upgrading just for that!

    But... but... be he is not 2D any more!

    It just took me to a 'Create an Account' page.

    The Easter Egg is in System Settings > Appearance.

    Look at the Liquid Glass "window" that shows what it looks like. Scroll down. Keep scrolling. Even when you think you are done, scroll more. You will see "Moof!" in the search. Then Clarus shows up.

    https://shottr.cc/s/PE7I/SCR-20260916-j8c

    He has gained weight.... but I guess who hasn't over the years.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From Alan B@alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid to uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 16 20:30:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 2026-09-16, Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
    On 16/09/2026 16:48, Andy H wrote:
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 16 Sep 2026 at 15:58:08 BST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

    It just took me to a 'Create an Account' page.

    Try this link:

    <https://eclecticlight.co/2026/09/15/finding-your-feet-in-golden-gate/>

    Ok, got it. Thanks EfOe

    Had a play with that, so childish for someone in their 60s ;-)

    I can't get it to work on MacOS, dragging the scroll bar doesn't work. Perhaps it needs a touch pad.

    It's there on the iPhone and iPad though. Nice to see the old chap back again.

    (took me a while to work out why the search bar didn't work - doh!)

    The Easter Egg works fine in iOS 27 but it's not so easy in GG.

    <https://daringfireball.net/linked/2026/09/11/clarus-settings-ios-27>

    There's also an alleged egg in Spotlight. Enter "Moof!" and a "Nice dogcow" reply should appear but not when I tried it.
    --
    Cheers, Alan
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  • From jbrennand@brennand@ntlworld.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Sep 20 18:36:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 14/09/2026 20:56, Andy Hewitt wrote:
    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother, although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite clicking
    the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small bug, but was confusing.
    s some more digging might reveal things of interest.


    Anyone else think the new Calendar display is dreadful? Those brutal horizontal lines ruin it for me and cant seem to be able to alter it.
    Guess I am getting old !

    JohnB
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  • From Andy Hewitt@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Sep 20 22:37:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 20/09/2026 18:36, jbrennand wrote:
    On 14/09/2026 20:56, Andy Hewitt wrote:
    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother,
    although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite
    clicking the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small
    bug, but was confusing.
    s some more digging might reveal things of interest.


    Anyone else think the new Calendar display is dreadful?-a Those brutal horizontal lines ruin it for me and cant seem to be able to alter it.
    Guess I am getting old !

    Can't say I see what you're talking about there. It all looks pretty
    much the same to me, but I mostly use the Monthly view, and I see
    nothing there. There's some across the Day view, but I thought they were always there.
    --
    Andy H

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Sep 21 11:43:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 14.09.26 21:56, Andy Hewitt wrote:
    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother,
    although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite clicking
    the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small bug, but was confusing.

    Mac Mini, iPad Pro and iPhone 17e done, a very quick look around doesn't reveal much that's too obvious. The UI looks a little more 'contrasty',
    and the Glass look is controllable, albeit a little coarse on MacOS
    (moving it one click down makes the menu bar almost completely
    transparent). I'll probably stick with turning on 'Reduce Transparency'.

    I guess the biggest part of this update is the AI stuff, which I'm not entirely bothered about, especially if it's going to kill me off before
    I retire!

    I was most interested in the updates to Photos, but that seems to be a
    bit of a non-event for me, nothing much has really been improved or
    updated, other than the AI tools, which aren't of great interest here. Although the Cleanup tool has impressed me in its first incarnation in OS26.

    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.

    An OS with dozens of quirks!
    Changed settings and a lot more. The worst upgrade I have ever seen with Apple.
    --
    "Ave! Morituri te salutant!"
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  • From Andy H@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Sep 21 12:43:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    On 14.09.26 21:56, Andy Hewitt wrote:
    Well, I got most of my devices updated, all without too much bother,
    although the iPhone update showed as updating to 26.7, despite clicking
    the 27 option. But it actually did update to 27 - a small bug, but was
    confusing.

    Mac Mini, iPad Pro and iPhone 17e done, a very quick look around doesn't
    reveal much that's too obvious. The UI looks a little more 'contrasty',
    and the Glass look is controllable, albeit a little coarse on MacOS
    (moving it one click down makes the menu bar almost completely
    transparent). I'll probably stick with turning on 'Reduce Transparency'.

    I guess the biggest part of this update is the AI stuff, which I'm not
    entirely bothered about, especially if it's going to kill me off before
    I retire!

    I was most interested in the updates to Photos, but that seems to be a
    bit of a non-event for me, nothing much has really been improved or
    updated, other than the AI tools, which aren't of great interest here.
    Although the Cleanup tool has impressed me in its first incarnation in OS26. >>
    Perhaps some more digging might reveal things of interest.

    An OS with dozens of quirks!
    Changed settings and a lot more. The worst upgrade I have ever seen with Apple.

    Well, I didnrCOt see that coming EfyA

    IrCOm sure I can find much worse (in terms of rCyeverrCO). System, 7, 7.5, 9.04 for starters. OS 26 with the first version of Glass has to be up there, and every 10.x.0 release until at least Snow Leopard.

    Very stable here so far (my primary concern), all apps ok so far, UI
    doesnrCOt bother me so much, as long as stuff works. They always change where stuff is.
    --
    Andy H
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  • From David Kennedy@davidkennedygm@gmail.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Sep 21 14:57:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 21/09/2026 13:43, Andy H wrote:
    J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    An OS with dozens of quirks!
    Changed settings and a lot more. The worst upgrade I have ever seen with
    Apple.

    Well, I didnrCOt see that coming EfyA

    IrCOm sure I can find much worse (in terms of rCyeverrCO). System, 7, 7.5, 9.04
    for starters. OS 26 with the first version of Glass has to be up there, and every 10.x.0 release until at least Snow Leopard.

    Very stable here so far (my primary concern), all apps ok so far, UI doesnrCOt bother me so much, as long as stuff works. They always change where stuff is.

    +1
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Sep 21 16:31:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 21.09.26 14:43, Andy H wrote:
    J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    An OS with dozens of quirks!
    Changed settings and a lot more. The worst upgrade I have ever seen with
    Apple.
    IrCOm sure I can find much worse (in terms of rCyeverrCO). System, 7, 7.5, 9.04
    for starters. OS 26 with the first version of Glass has to be up there, and every 10.x.0 release until at least Snow Leopard.

    Very stable here so far (my primary concern), all apps ok so far, UI doesnrCOt bother me so much, as long as stuff works. They always change where stuff is.

    When the biometric identification (and much much more) has to completely
    reset after the update:

    a) The system is inherently unstable
    b) The new OS qualifies as malware
    c) The OS is wasting millions of hours of its users globally
    d) people have to ask themselves whether they can still trust macOS

    There are people who do not see an Apple device as an end in itself like
    many in the Usenet. They earn their daily live with it.
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Sep 21 16:31:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 21.09.26 15:57, David Kennedy wrote:
    On 21/09/2026 13:43, Andy H wrote:
    J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    An OS with dozens of quirks!
    Changed settings and a lot more. The worst upgrade I have ever seen with >>> Apple.

    Well, I didnrCOt see that coming EfyA

    IrCOm sure I can find much worse (in terms of rCyeverrCO). System, 7, 7.5, 9.04
    for starters. OS 26 with the first version of Glass has to be up there, and >> every 10.x.0 release until at least Snow Leopard.

    Very stable here so far (my primary concern), all apps ok so far, UI
    doesnrCOt bother me so much, as long as stuff works. They always change where
    stuff is.

    +1

    *LOL*
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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  • From David Kennedy@davidkennedygm@gmail.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Sep 21 20:24:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 21/09/2026 15:31, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
    On 21.09.26 14:43, Andy H wrote:
    J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    An OS with dozens of quirks!
    Changed settings and a lot more. The worst upgrade I have ever seen with >>> Apple.
    IrCOm sure I can find much worse (in terms of rCyeverrCO). System, 7, 7.5, 9.04
    for starters. OS 26 with the first version of Glass has to be up there, and >> every 10.x.0 release until at least Snow Leopard.

    Very stable here so far (my primary concern), all apps ok so far, UI
    doesnrCOt bother me so much, as long as stuff works. They always change where
    stuff is.

    When the biometric identification (and much much more) has to completely reset after the update:

    a) The system is inherently unstable
    b) The new OS qualifies as malware
    c) The OS is wasting millions of hours of its users globally
    d) people have to ask themselves whether they can still trust macOS

    There are people who do not see an Apple device as an end in itself like
    many in the Usenet. They earn their daily live with it.

    You're not running 7.5.5 by any chance?
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  • From Andy Hewitt@thewildrover@icloud.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Sep 21 21:16:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 21/09/2026 15:31, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
    On 21.09.26 14:43, Andy H wrote:
    J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    An OS with dozens of quirks!
    Changed settings and a lot more. The worst upgrade I have ever seen with >>> Apple.
    IrCOm sure I can find much worse (in terms of rCyeverrCO). System, 7, 7.5, 9.04
    for starters. OS 26 with the first version of Glass has to be up there, and >> every 10.x.0 release until at least Snow Leopard.

    Very stable here so far (my primary concern), all apps ok so far, UI
    doesnrCOt bother me so much, as long as stuff works. They always change where
    stuff is.

    When the biometric identification (and much much more) has to completely reset after the update:

    Is that completely unexpected (Although it didn't happen here)? It's not really a fault, or bug, it's basic security.
    a) The system is inherently unstable

    For whom?

    b) The new OS qualifies as malware

    Really!

    c) The OS is wasting millions of hours of its users globally

    Every OS and every device is doing that anyway.

    d) people have to ask themselves whether they can still trust macOS

    More than other OS's, mostly, yes.
    There are people who do not see an Apple device as an end in itself like
    many in the Usenet. They earn their daily live with it.

    Huh, and... so what?

    Not sure what you're getting at there.

    I've not seen any articles or discussions that suggest this release is
    worse than any other - if anything, things are much quieter than usual.
    --
    Andy H

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  • From RJH@patchmoney@gmx.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 22 06:57:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 21 Sep 2026 at 15:31:01 BST, J||rg Lorenz wrote:

    On 21.09.26 14:43, Andy H wrote:
    J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    An OS with dozens of quirks!
    Changed settings and a lot more. The worst upgrade I have ever seen with >>> Apple.
    IrCOm sure I can find much worse (in terms of rCyeverrCO). System, 7, 7.5, 9.04
    for starters. OS 26 with the first version of Glass has to be up there, and >> every 10.x.0 release until at least Snow Leopard.

    Very stable here so far (my primary concern), all apps ok so far, UI
    doesnrCOt bother me so much, as long as stuff works. They always change where
    stuff is.

    When the biometric identification (and much much more) has to completely reset after the update:

    I don't have any biometric identifiers on MacOS - I take it you had top re-enter fingerprints etc? That does sound a nuisance. Even so, hardly:

    a) The system is inherently unstable
    b) The new OS qualifies as malware
    c) The OS is wasting millions of hours of its users globally
    d) people have to ask themselves whether they can still trust macOS

    There are people who do not see an Apple device as an end in itself like
    many in the Usenet. They earn their daily live with it.

    I don't see why they can't continue to use their computer.

    Sounds like you had a distressing update experience. Couldn't have been less eventful here.
    --
    Cheers, Rob
    Sheffield, UK
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 22 10:21:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 06:57:47 -0000 (UTC), RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    On 21 Sep 2026 at 15:31:01 BST, J%rg Lorenz wrote:

    On 21.09.26 14:43, Andy H wrote:
    J%rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    An OS with dozens of quirks!
    Changed settings and a lot more. The worst upgrade I have ever seen with >>>> Apple.
    IAm sure I can find much worse (in terms of aeverA). System, 7, 7.5, 9.04 >>> for starters. OS 26 with the first version of Glass has to be up there, and >>> every 10.x.0 release until at least Snow Leopard.

    Very stable here so far (my primary concern), all apps ok so far, UI
    doesnAt bother me so much, as long as stuff works. They always change where >>> stuff is.

    When the biometric identification (and much much more) has to completely
    reset after the update:

    I don't have any biometric identifiers on MacOS - I take it you had top >re-enter fingerprints etc? That does sound a nuisance. Even so, hardly:

    a) The system is inherently unstable
    b) The new OS qualifies as malware
    c) The OS is wasting millions of hours of its users globally
    d) people have to ask themselves whether they can still trust macOS

    There are people who do not see an Apple device as an end in itself like
    many in the Usenet. They earn their daily live with it.

    I don't see why they can't continue to use their computer.

    Sounds like you had a distressing update experience. Couldn't have been less >eventful here.

    I got "The Call" last night. I prepared everything for the overnight
    update to the promised 27 but when I checked this morning it had only incremeted from 26.6 to 26.7 but it offered to update to 27 tonight.

    Is that intermediate upgrade a necessary step on the path to 27?

    Nick
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  • From Alan B@alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 22 09:25:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 22 Sep 2026 at 10:21:22 BST, "Nick Odell" <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:

    I got "The Call" last night. I prepared everything for the overnight
    update to the promised 27 but when I checked this morning it had only incremeted from 26.6 to 26.7 but it offered to update to 27 tonight.

    Is that intermediate upgrade a necessary step on the path to 27?

    No :)

    <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256356560?sortBy=rank>
    --
    Cheers, Alan
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  • From David Kennedy@davidkennedygm@gmail.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 22 10:29:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 22/09/2026 10:21, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 06:57:47 -0000 (UTC), RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    On 21 Sep 2026 at 15:31:01 BST, J||rg Lorenz wrote:

    On 21.09.26 14:43, Andy H wrote:
    J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    An OS with dozens of quirks!
    Changed settings and a lot more. The worst upgrade I have ever seen with >>>>> Apple.
    IrCOm sure I can find much worse (in terms of rCyeverrCO). System, 7, 7.5, 9.04
    for starters. OS 26 with the first version of Glass has to be up there, and
    every 10.x.0 release until at least Snow Leopard.

    Very stable here so far (my primary concern), all apps ok so far, UI
    doesnrCOt bother me so much, as long as stuff works. They always change where
    stuff is.

    When the biometric identification (and much much more) has to completely >>> reset after the update:

    I don't have any biometric identifiers on MacOS - I take it you had top
    re-enter fingerprints etc? That does sound a nuisance. Even so, hardly:

    a) The system is inherently unstable
    b) The new OS qualifies as malware
    c) The OS is wasting millions of hours of its users globally
    d) people have to ask themselves whether they can still trust macOS

    There are people who do not see an Apple device as an end in itself like >>> many in the Usenet. They earn their daily live with it.

    I don't see why they can't continue to use their computer.

    Sounds like you had a distressing update experience. Couldn't have been less >> eventful here.

    I got "The Call" last night. I prepared everything for the overnight
    update to the promised 27 but when I checked this morning it had only incremeted from 26.6 to 26.7 but it offered to update to 27 tonight.

    Is that intermediate upgrade a necessary step on the path to 27?

    Nick
    Not sure how it showed for you but there was a choice here on all devices; you could choose 26.7 or go straight for 27 which was at the very bottom of the page.

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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 22 10:43:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 10:29:17 +0100, David Kennedy
    <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 22/09/2026 10:21, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 06:57:47 -0000 (UTC), RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    On 21 Sep 2026 at 15:31:01 BST, J%rg Lorenz wrote:

    On 21.09.26 14:43, Andy H wrote:
    J%rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    An OS with dozens of quirks!
    Changed settings and a lot more. The worst upgrade I have ever seen with >>>>>> Apple.
    IAm sure I can find much worse (in terms of aeverA). System, 7, 7.5, 9.04 >>>>> for starters. OS 26 with the first version of Glass has to be up there, and
    every 10.x.0 release until at least Snow Leopard.

    Very stable here so far (my primary concern), all apps ok so far, UI >>>>> doesnAt bother me so much, as long as stuff works. They always change where
    stuff is.

    When the biometric identification (and much much more) has to completely >>>> reset after the update:

    I don't have any biometric identifiers on MacOS - I take it you had top
    re-enter fingerprints etc? That does sound a nuisance. Even so, hardly:

    a) The system is inherently unstable
    b) The new OS qualifies as malware
    c) The OS is wasting millions of hours of its users globally
    d) people have to ask themselves whether they can still trust macOS

    There are people who do not see an Apple device as an end in itself like >>>> many in the Usenet. They earn their daily live with it.

    I don't see why they can't continue to use their computer.

    Sounds like you had a distressing update experience. Couldn't have been less
    eventful here.

    I got "The Call" last night. I prepared everything for the overnight
    update to the promised 27 but when I checked this morning it had only
    incremeted from 26.6 to 26.7 but it offered to update to 27 tonight.

    Is that intermediate upgrade a necessary step on the path to 27?

    Nick
    Not sure how it showed for you but there was a choice here on all devices; you
    could choose 26.7 or go straight for 27 which was at the very bottom of the page.

    Yes, I had a choice. 27 was at the top of the page and 26.7 at the
    foot. I definitely clicked 27!

    Nick
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 22 10:45:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 09:25:24 -0000 (UTC), Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    On 22 Sep 2026 at 10:21:22 BST, "Nick Odell" <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:

    I got "The Call" last night. I prepared everything for the overnight
    update to the promised 27 but when I checked this morning it had only
    incremeted from 26.6 to 26.7 but it offered to update to 27 tonight.

    Is that intermediate upgrade a necessary step on the path to 27?

    No :)

    <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256356560?sortBy=rank>

    Okay. Thanks for that.

    Nick
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 22 17:07:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 22.09.26 11:21, Nick Odell wrote:
    I got "The Call" last night. I prepared everything for the overnight
    update to the promised 27 but when I checked this morning it had only incremeted from 26.6 to 26.7 but it offered to update to 27 tonight.

    Is that intermediate upgrade a necessary step on the path to 27?

    No. The presentation of the steps is a bit misleading.
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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