All very nice but, no new Apple TV :-(
David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
All very nice but, no new Apple TV :-(
But a two grand phone. Which is ... something.
All very nice but, no new Apple TV :-(
On 09/09/2026 22:34, Chris wrote:
David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:Well, it would seem the past is finally catching up. I can, unfortunately, remember them costing that when they first appeared; back when two grand was worth having...m
All very nice but, no new Apple TV :-(
But a two grand phone. Which is ... something.
David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 09/09/2026 22:34, Chris wrote:
David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:Well, it would seem the past is finally catching up. I can, unfortunately, >> remember them costing that when they first appeared; back when two grand was >> worth having...m
All very nice but, no new Apple TV :-(
But a two grand phone. Which is ... something.
Wasn't in the market in those days. I remember being shocked when iphone broke the -u1000 mark with the X.
I've just noticed that, looking back through this thread, it consists (for me,
viewing on Usenapp) mostly of empty messages from regulars like Jaimie, Bruce and Bernd F.
Their size is reported as anywhere from around 1kb to 3kb.
Anyone else?
On 10 Sep 2026 at 11:29:42 GMT+1, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
I've just noticed that, looking back through this thread, it consists (for me,
viewing on Usenapp) mostly of empty messages from regulars like Jaimie, Bruce
and Bernd F.
Their size is reported as anywhere from around 1kb to 3kb.
Anyone else?
Looks OK here on Usenapp. 3 posts from David K and 2 from Chris plus yours (and now mine!). There's probably another topic with the same title created previously confusing your Usenapp database?
On 10 Sep 2026 at 11:29:42 GMT+1, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
I've just noticed that, looking back through this thread, it consists (for me,
viewing on Usenapp) mostly of empty messages from regulars like Jaimie, Bruce
and Bernd F.
Their size is reported as anywhere from around 1kb to 3kb.
Anyone else?
Looks OK here on Usenapp. 3 posts from David K and 2 from Chris plus yours (and now mine!). There's probably another topic with the same title created previously confusing your Usenapp database?
On 10/09/2026 08:34, Chris wrote:
David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:Of course, I notice that if you really wanted to push the boat out, you can spec it up to over 3 grand. I wonder how many of those will sell?
On 09/09/2026 22:34, Chris wrote:
David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:Well, it would seem the past is finally catching up. I can, unfortunately, >>> remember them costing that when they first appeared; back when two grand was
All very nice but, no new Apple TV :-(
But a two grand phone. Which is ... something.
worth having...m
Wasn't in the market in those days. I remember being shocked when iphone
broke the -u1000 mark with the X.
All I wanted was an updated Apple TV...
Is that too much to ask?
David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
What features etc were you after?
All I wanted was an updated Apple TV...
Is that too much to ask?
Most of my kit is old, though my iPhone did recently need replacement as
ran out of space essentially.
But still using 2012 mini SararCOs old MacBook Air IrCOve taken over and is feels to me at least quick!
My iPad is definitely getting a bit sluggish on CPU intensive stuff, but
not enough to warrant the cost, itrCOs from just before COVID I think.
Do still have a mac classic that might or might not work that Sara had!
Roger Merriman
On 10/09/2026 14:07, Roger Merriman wrote:
David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:I'm all for stretching out the useful life of everything, I'm still using an iPhone XR although that's getting to the point where an upgrade is required, maybe a 17 when they finally release the bog standard 18.
What features etc were you after?
All I wanted was an updated Apple TV...
Is that too much to ask?
Most of my kit is old, though my iPhone did recently need replacement as
ran out of space essentially.
But still using 2012 mini SararCOs old MacBook Air IrCOve taken over and is >> feels to me at least quick!
My iPad is definitely getting a bit sluggish on CPU intensive stuff, but
not enough to warrant the cost, itrCOs from just before COVID I think.
Do still have a mac classic that might or might not work that Sara had!
Roger Merriman
The Apple TV I have is a 2014 model which is limited by not being able to load
apps or update the OS. I really need something more up to date but am loath to
buy the present version when, as we all know, something new will come out tomorrow...
I'm all for stretching out the useful life of everything, I'm still using an iPhone XR although that's getting to the point where an upgrade is required, maybe a 17 when they finally release the bog standard 18.
The Apple TV I have is a 2014 model which is limited by not being able to load
apps or update the OS. I really need something more up to date but am loath to
buy the present version when, as we all know, something new will come out tomorrow...
On 10/09/2026 14:07, Roger Merriman wrote:
David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:I'm all for stretching out the useful life of everything, I'm still using an iPhone XR although that's getting to the point where an upgrade is required, maybe a 17 when they finally release the bog standard 18.
What features etc were you after?
All I wanted was an updated Apple TV...
Is that too much to ask?
Most of my kit is old, though my iPhone did recently need replacement as
ran out of space essentially.
But still using 2012 mini SararCOs old MacBook Air IrCOve taken over and is >> feels to me at least quick!
My iPad is definitely getting a bit sluggish on CPU intensive stuff, but
not enough to warrant the cost, itrCOs from just before COVID I think.
Do still have a mac classic that might or might not work that Sara had!
Roger Merriman
The Apple TV I have is a 2014 model which is limited by not being able to load
apps or update the OS. I really need something more up to date but am loath to
buy the present version when, as we all know, something new will come out tomorrow...
All very nice but, no new Apple TV :-(
All very nice but, no new Apple TV :-(
David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm all for stretching out the useful life of everything, I'm still using an >> iPhone XR although that's getting to the point where an upgrade is required, >> maybe a 17 when they finally release the bog standard 18.
I've recently started using an iPhone 5s and a first gen SE. They're tiny :-) Lots of apps won't install but I've managed to get those that I need.
I also jailbroke the 5s which was useful to declutter the camera app - I just need photos and videos, no slo-mo or portrait or panaroma etc and there was
a jailbreak mod for that.
Video quality of the SE is pretty good at 4K, the 5s is only 1080p but still quite decent.
--The Apple TV I have is a 2014 model which is limited by not being able to load
apps or update the OS. I really need something more up to date but am loath to
buy the present version when, as we all know, something new will come out
tomorrow...
Buy the present version or the previous version used? Then at least you've taken the edge off the depreciation. I ended up buying the 2022 version
just before Apple hiked the prices, which turned out to be a good buy.
Theo
On 09/09/2026 21:38, David Kennedy wrote:
All very nice but, no new Apple TV :-(
Am I the only one thinking that an iPhone "uno" i.e. the form factor of
the closed duo but with just a single screen and no fold would be a nice phone?
Especially if it still had the two batteries.
Buy the present version or the previous version used? Then at least you've taken the edge off the depreciation. I ended up buying the 2022 version
just before Apple hiked the prices, which turned out to be a good buy.
Theo
On 10/09/2026 18:09, Theo wrote:
Buy the present version or the previous version used? Then at least you've taken the edge off the depreciation. I ended up buying the 2022 version just before Apple hiked the prices, which turned out to be a good buy.
Theo
I dithered then missed the boat...
David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> posted:
On 10/09/2026 18:09, Theo wrote:
Buy the present version or the previous version used? Then at least you've >>> taken the edge off the depreciation. I ended up buying the 2022 version >>> just before Apple hiked the prices, which turned out to be a good buy.
Theo
I dithered then missed the boat...
Have you checked the refurb store? I bought my as new MBA from it recently and all seems well with it.
On 11/09/2026 13:25, Alan B wrote:
David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> posted:When I did they had all been price hiked.
On 10/09/2026 18:09, Theo wrote:
Buy the present version or the previous version used?-a Then at least >>>> you've
taken the edge off the depreciation.-a I ended up buying the 2022
version
just before Apple hiked the prices, which turned out to be a good buy. >>>>
Theo
I dithered then missed the boat...
Have you checked the refurb store? I bought my as new MBA from it
recently and all seems well with it.
On 11/09/2026 21:39, David Kennedy wrote:
On 11/09/2026 13:25, Alan B wrote:
David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> posted:When I did they had all been price hiked.
On 10/09/2026 18:09, Theo wrote:
Buy the present version or the previous version used? Then at least >>>>> you've
taken the edge off the depreciation. I ended up buying the 2022
version
just before Apple hiked the prices, which turned out to be a good buy. >>>>>
Theo
I dithered then missed the boat...
Have you checked the refurb store? I bought my as new MBA from it
recently and all seems well with it.
I just got stitched by that too. Bought the Mini M4 a month or so ago,
the refurb was -u179 more than the new one was.
Unfortunately the timing was just bad, but I only had the small window
of opportunity to afford it anyway.
The volatility of pricing at the moment has made purchase decision
making very difficult.
One slight reassurance is that CEX are selling a 'B' grade iPhone 17e
for -u99 less than the new one was. I can live with that.
On 12 Sep 2026 at 05:47:07 BST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
I decided against another laptop/portable in the end. My old iPad ProI just got stitched by that too. Bought the Mini M4 a month or so ago,
the refurb was -u179 more than the new one was.
Unfortunately the timing was just bad, but I only had the small window
of opportunity to afford it anyway.
The volatility of pricing at the moment has made purchase decision
making very difficult.
One slight reassurance is that CEX are selling a 'B' grade iPhone 17e
for -u99 less than the new one was. I can live with that.
I seemed to have beaten the price hike but the M5 MBA still strectched my initial budget but I do appreciate the larger 15" screen and faster performance over my other Macs.
Bruce <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
On 09/09/2026 21:38, David Kennedy wrote:
All very nice but, no new Apple TV :-(
Am I the only one thinking that an iPhone "uno" i.e. the form factor of
the closed duo but with just a single screen and no fold would be a nice
phone?
Isn't that the iphone Air?
Especially if it still had the two batteries.
The Air has a spare battery option.
The volatility of pricing at the moment has made purchase decision making very
difficult.
One slight reassurance is that CEX are selling a 'B' grade iPhone 17e for -u99
less than the new one was. I can live with that.
On 12/09/2026 05:47, Andy Hewitt wrote:
Indeed. I've been watching the price of iPhone 17's. Last Thursday you could buy one for -u710 (best price I could find) yet today it's -u779 as the price
The volatility of pricing at the moment has made purchase decision making very
difficult.
increases trickle through.
One slight reassurance is that CEX are selling a 'B' grade iPhone 17e for -u99Best price I could find new on the 17e was -u599 Toady.
less than the new one was. I can live with that.
However, they are selling a 17 256gb for -u750, which, considering it's second
hand I felt was a little steep. Prices might settle down over the next few weeks or we may have to wait until January.
David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/09/2026 05:47, Andy Hewitt wrote:
Indeed. I've been watching the price of iPhone 17's. Last Thursday you could
The volatility of pricing at the moment has made purchase decision making very
difficult.
buy one for -u710 (best price I could find) yet today it's -u779 as the price
increases trickle through.
One slight reassurance is that CEX are selling a 'B' grade iPhone 17e for -u99Best price I could find new on the 17e was -u599 Toady.
less than the new one was. I can live with that.
ThatrCOs what I paid four ours (I bought two, both wife and myself were in need of replacements). I got mine from JL, getting their two year warranty, rather than forking out more for AppleCare on them.
However, they are selling a 17 256gb for -u750, which, considering it's second
hand I felt was a little steep. Prices might settle down over the next few >> weeks or we may have to wait until January.
Yeah, I was amazed at second hand/refurb prices across the board (CEX were more expensive for the M4 Mini used, than it was refurbed from Apple) - strangely the 16 models were more expensive in some cases.
I donrCOt think buying when I did was actually that bad in timing - indeed, it seems I may have got it right for once! ;-)
The prices don't make sense. There's M2 Airs on the Apple Refurb store for -u1269, admittedly with 1TB storage, where a new M5 Air is -u1299 (with 512GB).
Yes the refurb price is a big saving on the original price with the
upgrades, but doesn't align with the current market prices.
On 13/09/2026 21:57, Chris wrote:
It's not really the original price though is it? The refurbished products would, originally, have sold for less than the currant market price, i.e. before the increases, but Apple are pitching them against the post increase prices.
The prices don't make sense. There's M2 Airs on the Apple Refurb store for >> -u1269, admittedly with 1TB storage, where a new M5 Air is -u1299 (with
512GB).
Yes the refurb price is a big saving on the original price with the
upgrades, but doesn't align with the current market prices.
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