On 14/01/2025 08:09, Andr|- wrote:
On 14 Jan 2025 at 00:08:29 CET, "David" <David@example.net> wrote:
On 13/01/2025 22:39, Johnny LaRue wrote:You posted this message on the forum yourself.
On Jan 13, 2025 at 3:43:02rC>PM EST, "David" <David@example.net> wrote: >>>>
Item from ChatGPT
*****************
Oh look. Artificial Intelligence meets Actual Ignorance. The result is - >>>> predictably - a completely useless post.
This item was posted on the Usenapp Forum https://www.usenapp.com/forum/ >>
A bit strange, don't you think?
Hello again, Andr|- EfOe
I am responding to what appears to be your very last post on the uk.comp.sys.mac Usenet group.
May I ask WHY you have dropped-out of the group?
Are you posting in any /other/ Usenet group?
(Sharing my question on the 'alt.computer.workshop' group)
On 10 Sep 2025 at 14:29:34 BST, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/01/2025 08:09, Andr|- wrote:
On 14 Jan 2025 at 00:08:29 CET, "David" <David@example.net> wrote:
On 13/01/2025 22:39, Johnny LaRue wrote:You posted this message on the forum yourself.
On Jan 13, 2025 at 3:43:02rC>PM EST, "David" <David@example.net> wrote: >>>>>
Item from ChatGPT
*****************
Oh look. Artificial Intelligence meets Actual Ignorance. The result is -
predictably - a completely useless post.
This item was posted on the Usenapp Forum https://www.usenapp.com/forum/ >>>
A bit strange, don't you think?
Hello again, Andr|- EfOe
I am responding to what appears to be your very last post on the
uk.comp.sys.mac Usenet group.
May I ask WHY you have dropped-out of the group?
Are you posting in any /other/ Usenet group?
(Sharing my question on the 'alt.computer.workshop' group)
*BUMP*!!!
On 11 Jun 2026 at 21:22:28 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 10 Sep 2025 at 14:29:34 BST, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/01/2025 08:09, Andr|- wrote:
On 14 Jan 2025 at 00:08:29 CET, "David" <David@example.net> wrote:
On 13/01/2025 22:39, Johnny LaRue wrote:You posted this message on the forum yourself.
On Jan 13, 2025 at 3:43:02rC>PM EST, "David" <David@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>
Item from ChatGPT
*****************
Oh look. Artificial Intelligence meets Actual Ignorance. The result is -
predictably - a completely useless post.
This item was posted on the Usenapp Forum https://www.usenapp.com/forum/ >>>>
A bit strange, don't you think?
Hello again, Andr|- EfOe
I am responding to what appears to be your very last post on the
uk.comp.sys.mac Usenet group.
May I ask WHY you have dropped-out of the group?
Are you posting in any /other/ Usenet group?
(Sharing my question on the 'alt.computer.workshop' group)
*BUMP*!!!
Was that you coming back to earth in this very ancient thread?
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old
John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is printed
as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old
John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is printed
as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
On 12 Jun 2026 at 10:15:33 BST, ""David B."" <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old
John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is printed >> as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
From about 1994, when uscm was founded (I joined it within a couple of weeks) I was John Hill. I put "John" manually at the end of the posts.
This held until a couple of years or so ago, when other Johns appeared. I got old and lazy. So I decided that I would do a bit of nymshifting myself and decided to become Old John, and not put my name at the bottom of each post.
It is just possible, then, that Thunderbird is picking up some relic of this. But the message headers of current posts clearly contain "From: Old John <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk>" and do not contain "Hill".
I have no idea why you see what you see. But note the sig.
On Jun 12, 2026 at 2:15:33rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n9211lFl4ajU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old
John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is printed >> as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
What do the headers show?
On 13 Jun 2026 at 07:38:45 BST, "Old John" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 12 Jun 2026 at 10:15:33 BST, ""David B."" <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old
John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is printed >>> as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
From about 1994, when uscm was founded (I joined it within a couple of weeks)
I was John Hill. I put "John" manually at the end of the posts.
This held until a couple of years or so ago, when other Johns appeared. I got
old and lazy. So I decided that I would do a bit of nymshifting myself and >> decided to become Old John, and not put my name at the bottom of each post. >>
It is just possible, then, that Thunderbird is picking up some relic of this.
But the message headers of current posts clearly contain "From: Old John
<watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk>" and do not contain "Hill".
I have no idea why you see what you see. But note the sig.
Hello again, John,
Many thanks for the explanation!
I think the mystery has now been solved. As it turns out, Thunderbird has had your email address stored in my Address Book for years under "John Hill", and it has been quietly substituting that name whenever your posts arrive.
So, despite my efforts to investigate hidden headers, obscure Usenet behaviour, and possible Usenapp oddities, the culprit was my own Thunderbird installation all along!
Your account of the transition from "John Hill" to "Old John" also makes perfect sense. The Address Book entry must date back to those earlier days and
has simply never been updated.
I must say, your signature seems particularly apt in this case:
"Classic computing: Computers do what you tell them to do, not what you want them to do."
Thunderbird was faithfully doing exactly what I told it to do years ago. The problem was that I had completely forgotten giving it the instruction!
Thank you for helping unravel the puzzle, and congratulations on maintaining such a remarkable Usenet presence over the years. There can't be many people left who can say they were there at the founding of uscm (ucsm) and are still posting regularly today.
Kind regards,
David
On 13 Jun 2026 at 01:06:11 BST, "Brock McNuggets" <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 12, 2026 at 2:15:33rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<n9211lFl4ajU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old
John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is printed >>> as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
What do the headers show?
Can you not see them for yourself?!!!
On 12 Jun 2026 at 10:15:33 BST, ""David B."" <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old
John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is printed >> as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
From about 1994, when uscm was founded (I joined it within a couple of weeks) I was John Hill. I put "John" manually at the end of the posts.
This held until a couple of years or so ago, when other Johns appeared. I got old and lazy. So I decided that I would do a bit of nymshifting myself and decided to become Old John, and not put my name at the bottom of each post.
It is just possible, then, that Thunderbird is picking up some relic of this. But the message headers of current posts clearly contain "From: Old John <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk>" and do not contain "Hill".
I have no idea why you see what you see. But note the sig.
On Jun 13, 2026 at 12:04:09rC>AM MST, "David B." wrote <6a2d00e9$2$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
On 13 Jun 2026 at 01:06:11 BST, "Brock McNuggets"
<brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 12, 2026 at 2:15:33rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<n9211lFl4ajU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old
John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is
printed as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
What do the headers show?
Can you not see them for yourself?!!!
Looking back the claim is that Thunderbird overrides the "From" line.
Do you have John in your address book? My *guess* is that you do...
and listed as John Hill.
On Jun 12, 2026 at 11:38:45rC>PM MST, "Old John" wrote <110ittl$2o5ss$1@dont-email.me>:
On 12 Jun 2026 at 10:15:33 BST, ""David B.""
<boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old
John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is
printed as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
From about 1994, when uscm was founded (I joined it within a couple
of weeks) I was John Hill. I put "John" manually at the end of the
posts.
This held until a couple of years or so ago, when other Johns
appeared. I got old and lazy. So I decided that I would do a bit of
nymshifting myself and decided to become Old John, and not put my
name at the bottom of each post.
It is just possible, then, that Thunderbird is picking up some relic
of this. But the message headers of current posts clearly contain
"From: Old John <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk>" and do not contain "Hill".
I have no idea why you see what you see. But note the sig.
My guess is he has you in his address book and Thunderbird is showing
the name he has for you there.
On Jun 13, 2026 at 12:04:09rC>AM MST, "David B." wrote <6a2d00e9$2$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
On 13 Jun 2026 at 01:06:11 BST, "Brock McNuggets" <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Jun 12, 2026 at 2:15:33rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<n9211lFl4ajU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old
John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is printed >>>> as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
What do the headers show?
Can you not see them for yourself?!!!
Looking back the claim is that Thunderbird overrides the "From" line.
Do you have John in your address book? My *guess* is that you do... and listed
as John Hill.
On 13/06/2026 16:58, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Jun 13, 2026 at 12:04:09rC>AM MST, "David B." wrote
<6a2d00e9$2$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
On 13 Jun 2026 at 01:06:11 BST, "Brock McNuggets" <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Jun 12, 2026 at 2:15:33rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<n9211lFl4ajU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old
John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is printed
as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
What do the headers show?
Can you not see them for yourself?!!!
Looking back the claim is that Thunderbird overrides the "From" line.
Do you have John in your address book? My *guess* is that you do... and listed
as John Hill.
Yes, I do. I have posted this discovery already.
Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in news:6a2d7e4e$0$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
On Jun 12, 2026 at 11:38:45rC>PM MST, "Old John" wrote
<110ittl$2o5ss$1@dont-email.me>:
On 12 Jun 2026 at 10:15:33 BST, ""David B.""
<boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old
John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is
printed as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
From about 1994, when uscm was founded (I joined it within a couple
of weeks) I was John Hill. I put "John" manually at the end of the
posts.
This held until a couple of years or so ago, when other Johns
appeared. I got old and lazy. So I decided that I would do a bit of
nymshifting myself and decided to become Old John, and not put my
name at the bottom of each post.
It is just possible, then, that Thunderbird is picking up some relic
of this. But the message headers of current posts clearly contain
"From: Old John <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk>" and do not contain "Hill".
I have no idea why you see what you see. But note the sig.
My guess is he has you in his address book and Thunderbird is showing
the name he has for you there.
Your *guess* ?
David already posted that the address book was the solution.
Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in news:6a2d7e13$1$27$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
On Jun 13, 2026 at 12:04:09rC>AM MST, "David B." wrote
<6a2d00e9$2$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
On 13 Jun 2026 at 01:06:11 BST, "Brock McNuggets"
<brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 12, 2026 at 2:15:33rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<n9211lFl4ajU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old
John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is
printed as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
What do the headers show?
Can you not see them for yourself?!!!
Looking back the claim is that Thunderbird overrides the "From" line.
Do you have John in your address book? My *guess* is that you do...
and listed as John Hill.
Your *guess* ?
David already posted that the address book was the solution.
And don't add to your collection of lies by claiming you didn't see the message because nobody blieves anything you post.
You really are a stupid twit, snit.
Message-ID: <6a2d009d$1$21$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
On Jun 13, 2026 at 1:38:18rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n95tdqF9aoaU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 13/06/2026 16:58, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Jun 13, 2026 at 12:04:09rC>AM MST, "David B." wrote
<6a2d00e9$2$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
On 13 Jun 2026 at 01:06:11 BST, "Brock McNuggets" <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Jun 12, 2026 at 2:15:33rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<n9211lFl4ajU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old
John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is printed
as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
What do the headers show?
Can you not see them for yourself?!!!
Looking back the claim is that Thunderbird overrides the "From" line.
Do you have John in your address book? My *guess* is that you do... and listed
as John Hill.
Yes, I do. I have posted this discovery already.
Ah, missed it. Well, well troubleshot.
On 14/06/2026 02:24, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Jun 13, 2026 at 1:38:18rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<n95tdqF9aoaU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 13/06/2026 16:58, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Jun 13, 2026 at 12:04:09rC>AM MST, "David B." wrote
<6a2d00e9$2$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
On 13 Jun 2026 at 01:06:11 BST, "Brock McNuggets" <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Jun 12, 2026 at 2:15:33rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<n9211lFl4ajU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old
John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is printed
as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
What do the headers show?
Can you not see them for yourself?!!!
Looking back the claim is that Thunderbird overrides the "From" line.
Do you have John in your address book? My *guess* is that you do... and listed
as John Hill.
Yes, I do. I have posted this discovery already.
Ah, missed it. Well, well troubleshot.
Thanks! Efye
On Jun 13, 2026 at 10:19:23rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n96rurFdqorU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 14/06/2026 02:24, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Jun 13, 2026 at 1:38:18rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<n95tdqF9aoaU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 13/06/2026 16:58, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Jun 13, 2026 at 12:04:09rC>AM MST, "David B." wrote
<6a2d00e9$2$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
On 13 Jun 2026 at 01:06:11 BST, "Brock McNuggets" <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Jun 12, 2026 at 2:15:33rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<n9211lFl4ajU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 12/06/2026 08:34, David B. got that the wrong way round!
I am *SO* sorry!
When I view your posts using Usenap, your name is shown as "Old >>>>>>>> John". When I view the identical post in Thunderbird, your name is printed
as "John Hill".
That's how things actually are!
What do the headers show?
Can you not see them for yourself?!!!
Looking back the claim is that Thunderbird overrides the "From" line. >>>>>
Do you have John in your address book? My *guess* is that you do... and listed
as John Hill.
Yes, I do. I have posted this discovery already.
Ah, missed it. Well, well troubleshot.
Thanks! Efye
Sure.
So, despite my efforts to investigate hidden headers, obscure Usenet behaviour, and possible Usenapp oddities, the culprit was my own Thunderbird installation all along!
On 13 Jun 2026 at 08:02:54 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
So, despite my efforts to investigate hidden headers, obscure Usenet
behaviour, and possible Usenapp oddities, the culprit was my own Thunderbird >> installation all along!
I have never used Thunderbird. But it seems to me that in this case it exceeded its authority.
On 14 Jun 2026 at 07:35:19 BST, "Old John" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 13 Jun 2026 at 08:02:54 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>
So, despite my efforts to investigate hidden headers, obscure Usenet
behaviour, and possible Usenapp oddities, the culprit was my own Thunderbird
installation all along!
I have never used Thunderbird. But it seems to me that in this case it
exceeded its authority.
I totally agree!
You are probably aware that such things have been known to happen before!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE
Do you know what happened next?
On 14 Jun 2026 at 08:43:12 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 14 Jun 2026 at 07:35:19 BST, "Old John" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>
On 13 Jun 2026 at 08:02:54 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
So, despite my efforts to investigate hidden headers, obscure Usenet
behaviour, and possible Usenapp oddities, the culprit was my own Thunderbird
installation all along!
I have never used Thunderbird. But it seems to me that in this case it
exceeded its authority.
I totally agree!
You are probably aware that such things have been known to happen before!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE
Do you know what happened next?
Yes.
"My mind is going" was a very popular clip for shutdown of a Mac in the good old days when such things were possible.
On 14 Jun 2026 at 08:43:12 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 14 Jun 2026 at 07:35:19 BST, "Old John" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>
On 13 Jun 2026 at 08:02:54 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
So, despite my efforts to investigate hidden headers, obscure Usenet
behaviour, and possible Usenapp oddities, the culprit was my own Thunderbird
installation all along!
I have never used Thunderbird. But it seems to me that in this case it
exceeded its authority.
I totally agree!
You are probably aware that such things have been known to happen before!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE
Do you know what happened next?
Yes.
"My mind is going" was a very popular clip for shutdown of a Mac in the good old days when such things were possible.
On 11 Jun 2026 at 21:22:28 BST, "David B."<boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 10 Sep 2025 at 14:29:34 BST, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/01/2025 08:09, Andr|- wrote:
On 14 Jan 2025 at 00:08:29 CET, "David"<David@example.net> wrote:
On 13/01/2025 22:39, Johnny LaRue wrote:
On Jan 13, 2025 at 3:43:02rC>PM EST, "David"<David@example.net> wrote:
Item from ChatGPT
*****************
Oh look. Artificial Intelligence meets Actual Ignorance. The result is -
predictably - a completely useless post.
This item was posted on the Usenapp Forum https://www.usenapp.com/forum/
You posted this message on the forum yourself.
A bit strange, don't you think?
Hello again, Andr|- EfOe
I am responding to what appears to be your very last post on the uk.comp.sys.mac Usenet group.
May I ask WHY you have dropped-out of the group?
Are you posting in any /other/ Usenet group?
(Sharing my question on the 'alt.computer.workshop' group)
*BUMP*!!!
Was that you coming back to earth in this very ancient thread?
On Jun 12, 2026, Old John wrote
(in article <110g94s$205mn$1@dont-email.me>):
On 11 Jun 2026 at 21:22:28 BST, "David B."<boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>
On 10 Sep 2025 at 14:29:34 BST, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/01/2025 08:09, Andr|- wrote:
On 14 Jan 2025 at 00:08:29 CET, "David"<David@example.net> wrote:
On 13/01/2025 22:39, Johnny LaRue wrote:
On Jan 13, 2025 at 3:43:02rC>PM EST, "David"<David@example.net> wrote:
Item from ChatGPT
*****************
Oh look. Artificial Intelligence meets Actual Ignorance. The result is -
predictably - a completely useless post.
This item was posted on the Usenapp Forum https://www.usenapp.com/forum/
You posted this message on the forum yourself.
A bit strange, don't you think?
Hello again, Andr|- EfOe
I am responding to what appears to be your very last post on the
uk.comp.sys.mac Usenet group.
May I ask WHY you have dropped-out of the group?
Are you posting in any /other/ Usenet group?
(Sharing my question on the 'alt.computer.workshop' group)
*BUMP*!!!
Was that you coming back to earth in this very ancient thread?
OlrCO yellowstain is a necrophilliac. He just loves to zombiefy necrothreads.
A mere one year old thread is nothing; he has been known to zombiefy five, seven, and even older threads. I think that his record is 17 years, but I could be wrong.
On 14/06/2026 09:06, Old John wrote:
On 14 Jun 2026 at 08:43:12 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>
On 14 Jun 2026 at 07:35:19 BST, "Old John" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>
On 13 Jun 2026 at 08:02:54 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
So, despite my efforts to investigate hidden headers, obscure Usenet >>>>> behaviour, and possible Usenapp oddities, the culprit was my own Thunderbird
installation all along!
I have never used Thunderbird. But it seems to me that in this case it >>>> exceeded its authority.
I totally agree!
You are probably aware that such things have been known to happen before! >>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE
Do you know what happened next?
Yes.
"My mind is going" was a very popular clip for shutdown of a Mac in the good >> old days when such things were possible.
As you are aware, John, you are one of the few people here who
correspond with me. May I ask a favour?
I'm writing to you now on my original 27 inch iMac which I bought brand
new in 2017. The SSD part of my Fusion Drive has failed, but I am now
running it from a 1TB LaCie external SSD .... and it is working well.
Earlier this year I purchased a little used 2019 27 inch iMac which is
just about perfect, but it cannot run macOS beyond Sequoia. I am now
selling it on eBay. Please would you tell your colleagues here; it may
be of interest to one of them?
Thanks if you will. EfOe
On 24 Jun 2026 at 09:53:10 BST, ""David B."" <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/06/2026 09:06, Old John wrote:
On 14 Jun 2026 at 08:43:12 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 14 Jun 2026 at 07:35:19 BST, "Old John" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 13 Jun 2026 at 08:02:54 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
So, despite my efforts to investigate hidden headers, obscure Usenet >>>>>> behaviour, and possible Usenapp oddities, the culprit was my own Thunderbird
installation all along!
I have never used Thunderbird. But it seems to me that in this case it >>>>> exceeded its authority.
I totally agree!
You are probably aware that such things have been known to happen before! >>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE
Do you know what happened next?
Yes.
"My mind is going" was a very popular clip for shutdown of a Mac in the good
old days when such things were possible.
As you are aware, John, you are one of the few people here who
correspond with me. May I ask a favour?
I'm writing to you now on my original 27 inch iMac which I bought brand
new in 2017. The SSD part of my Fusion Drive has failed, but I am now
running it from a 1TB LaCie external SSD .... and it is working well.
Earlier this year I purchased a little used 2019 27 inch iMac which is
just about perfect, but it cannot run macOS beyond Sequoia. I am now
selling it on eBay. Please would you tell your colleagues here; it may
be of interest to one of them?
Thanks if you will. EfOe
Hopefully someone else will spot your post. But let's face it, this is NOT a For Sale and Wanted board, and any such post would me massively OT.
Nor do I subscribe to a group on which it would be acceptable.
Sorry.
*I could be wrong*.Path: not-for-mail
On 25/06/2026 07:44, Old John wrote:
On 24 Jun 2026 at 09:53:10 BST, ""David B."" <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/06/2026 09:06, Old John wrote:
On 14 Jun 2026 at 08:43:12 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 14 Jun 2026 at 07:35:19 BST, "Old John" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 13 Jun 2026 at 08:02:54 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
So, despite my efforts to investigate hidden headers, obscure Usenet >>>>>>> behaviour, and possible Usenapp oddities, the culprit was my own Thunderbird
installation all along!
I have never used Thunderbird. But it seems to me that in this case it >>>>>> exceeded its authority.
I totally agree!
You are probably aware that such things have been known to happen before! >>>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE
Do you know what happened next?
Yes.
"My mind is going" was a very popular clip for shutdown of a Mac in the good
old days when such things were possible.
As you are aware, John, you are one of the few people here who
correspond with me. May I ask a favour?
I'm writing to you now on my original 27 inch iMac which I bought brand
new in 2017. The SSD part of my Fusion Drive has failed, but I am now
running it from a 1TB LaCie external SSD .... and it is working well.
Earlier this year I purchased a little used 2019 27 inch iMac which is
just about perfect, but it cannot run macOS beyond Sequoia. I am now
selling it on eBay. Please would you tell your colleagues here; it may
be of interest to one of them?
Thanks if you will. EfOe
Hopefully someone else will spot your post. But let's face it, this is NOT a >> For Sale and Wanted board, and any such post would me massively OT.
Nor do I subscribe to a group on which it would be acceptable.
Sorry.
No worries!
I very much appreciate your reply, John.
Thank you.
On 25 Jun 2026 at 09:13:30 BST, ""David B."" <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 25/06/2026 07:44, Old John wrote:
On 24 Jun 2026 at 09:53:10 BST, ""David B."" <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>
On 14/06/2026 09:06, Old John wrote:
On 14 Jun 2026 at 08:43:12 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 14 Jun 2026 at 07:35:19 BST, "Old John" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 13 Jun 2026 at 08:02:54 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
So, despite my efforts to investigate hidden headers, obscure Usenet >>>>>>>> behaviour, and possible Usenapp oddities, the culprit was my own Thunderbird
installation all along!
I have never used Thunderbird. But it seems to me that in this case it >>>>>>> exceeded its authority.
I totally agree!
You are probably aware that such things have been known to happen before!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE
Do you know what happened next?
Yes.
"My mind is going" was a very popular clip for shutdown of a Mac in the good
old days when such things were possible.
As you are aware, John, you are one of the few people here who
correspond with me. May I ask a favour?
I'm writing to you now on my original 27 inch iMac which I bought brand >>>> new in 2017. The SSD part of my Fusion Drive has failed, but I am now
running it from a 1TB LaCie external SSD .... and it is working well.
Earlier this year I purchased a little used 2019 27 inch iMac which is >>>> just about perfect, but it cannot run macOS beyond Sequoia. I am now
selling it on eBay. Please would you tell your colleagues here; it may >>>> be of interest to one of them?
Thanks if you will. EfOe
Hopefully someone else will spot your post. But let's face it, this is NOT a
For Sale and Wanted board, and any such post would me massively OT.
Nor do I subscribe to a group on which it would be acceptable.
Sorry.
No worries!
I very much appreciate your reply, John.
Thank you.
I don't know if this would be of any help.
https://www.macworld.com/article/670942/how-to-sell-a-mac-or-macbook.html?aid=29551874&huid=
On 25/06/2026 16:26, Old John wrote:
On 25 Jun 2026 at 09:13:30 BST, ""David B."" <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 25/06/2026 07:44, Old John wrote:
On 24 Jun 2026 at 09:53:10 BST, ""David B."" <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>>
On 14/06/2026 09:06, Old John wrote:
On 14 Jun 2026 at 08:43:12 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 14 Jun 2026 at 07:35:19 BST, "Old John" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 13 Jun 2026 at 08:02:54 BST, "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
So, despite my efforts to investigate hidden headers, obscure Usenet >>>>>>>>> behaviour, and possible Usenapp oddities, the culprit was my own Thunderbird
installation all along!
I have never used Thunderbird. But it seems to me that in this case it >>>>>>>> exceeded its authority.
I totally agree!
You are probably aware that such things have been known to happen before!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE
Do you know what happened next?
Yes.
"My mind is going" was a very popular clip for shutdown of a Mac in the good
old days when such things were possible.
As you are aware, John, you are one of the few people here who
correspond with me. May I ask a favour?
I'm writing to you now on my original 27 inch iMac which I bought brand >>>>> new in 2017. The SSD part of my Fusion Drive has failed, but I am now >>>>> running it from a 1TB LaCie external SSD .... and it is working well. >>>>>
Earlier this year I purchased a little used 2019 27 inch iMac which is >>>>> just about perfect, but it cannot run macOS beyond Sequoia. I am now >>>>> selling it on eBay. Please would you tell your colleagues here; it may >>>>> be of interest to one of them?
Thanks if you will. EfOe
Hopefully someone else will spot your post. But let's face it, this is NOT a
For Sale and Wanted board, and any such post would me massively OT.
Nor do I subscribe to a group on which it would be acceptable.
Sorry.
No worries!
I very much appreciate your reply, John.
Thank you.
I don't know if this would be of any help.
https://www.macworld.com/article/670942/how-to-sell-a-mac-or-macbook.html?aid=29551874&huid=
That is a very interesting and thought-provoking article, John.
Thank you, yet again!
Having had experience with a Fusion Drive on this, my current 2017 Intel iMac, I decided to carry out a procedure recommended by Apple. Such
action destroys ALL data on disk - both spinner and SSD.
Here's confirmation that the procedure was successful. Apologies for
blurry photograph!
https://i.ibb.co/zh4jBnnv/IMG-0088.jpg
OlrCO yellowstain is a necrophilliac. He just loves to zombiefy necrothreads. A mere one year old thread is nothing; he has been known to zombiefy five, seven, and even older threads. I think that his record is 17 years, but I could be wrong.
On 25 Jun 2026 at 00:23:11 BST, "WolfFan" <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
OlrCO yellowstain is a necrophilliac. He just loves to zombiefy necrothreads.
A mere one year old thread is nothing; he has been known to zombiefy five, >> seven, and even older threads. I think that his record is 17 years, but I
could be wrong.
Did you read here?
https://eclecticlight.co/2022/08/30/macos-now-scans-for-malware-whenever-it-gets-a-chance/#comment-77874
On 27 Jun 2026 at 11:32:43 BST, "John Doe" <john.doe@myemail.invalid> wrote:
On 25 Jun 2026 at 00:23:11 BST, "WolfFan" <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
OlrCO yellowstain is a necrophilliac. He just loves to zombiefy necrothreads.
A mere one year old thread is nothing; he has been known to zombiefy five, >>> seven, and even older threads. I think that his record is 17 years, but I >>> could be wrong.
Did you read here?
https://eclecticlight.co/2022/08/30/macos-now-scans-for-malware-whenever-it-gets-a-chance/#comment-77874
Does anyone reading here use anti-malware software on an Apple device?
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