Do we really need another macOS text editor?
<https://notepad-plus-plus-mac.org>
I've used npp on Windoze and it's fine but there are so many macOS text editors. Perhaps Bare Bones will port BBEdit to Windows and Linux ;)
Do we really need another macOS text editor?
<https://notepad-plus-plus-mac.org>
I've used npp on Windoze and it's fine but there are so many macOS text editors. Perhaps Bare Bones will port BBEdit to Windows and Linux ;)
Do we really need another macOS text editor?
<https://notepad-plus-plus-mac.org>
I've used npp on Windoze and it's fine but there are so many macOS text >editors. Perhaps Bare Bones will port BBEdit to Windows and Linux ;)
On Thu, 30 Apr 2026 11:36:10 -0000 (UTC),
alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid (Alan B) wrote:
Do we really need another macOS text editor?
<https://notepad-plus-plus-mac.org>
I've used npp on Windoze and it's fine but there are so many macOS text >>editors. Perhaps Bare Bones will port BBEdit to Windows and Linux ;)
The original creators are miffed, irked or a tad put out by this:
https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/npp-trademark-infringement/
This is not an official Notepad++ release. It's an unauthorized
project misusing the Notepad++ trademark.
I am not, and never wanted to be, a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV,
radio nor in the movies, but I don't think I'd use something the
original creator isn't happy with.
On 30 Apr 2026 at 12:36:10rC>pm BST, "Alan B" <Alan B> wrote:
Do we really need another macOS text editor?
<https://notepad-plus-plus-mac.org>
I've used npp on Windoze and it's fine but there are so many macOS text
editors. Perhaps Bare Bones will port BBEdit to Windows and Linux ;)
I note that this is a community port of Notepad++ to the Mac which is tracking
the Windows version, rather than developed by the Notepad++ developers themselves.
I've never used Notepad++ before, but am going to give it a tire-kick to see how it compares to BBEdit. I doubt I'd change, but it's always interesting to compare and see how other apps tackle various aspects of the writing/editing process.
As for BBEdit being ported to other platformsrCa unlikely, being 'Mac-assed' is
probably its biggest advantage. But hey, stranger things have happened, as this announcement shows.
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
Do we really need another macOS text editor?
<https://notepad-plus-plus-mac.org>
I've used npp on Windoze and it's fine but there are so many macOS text
editors. Perhaps Bare Bones will port BBEdit to Windows and Linux ;)
The only benefit will be for users coming over from Windows feeling more comfortable.
On Thu, 30 Apr 2026 11:36:10 -0000 (UTC),
alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid (Alan B) wrote:
Do we really need another macOS text editor?
<https://notepad-plus-plus-mac.org>
I've used npp on Windoze and it's fine but there are so many macOS text
editors. Perhaps Bare Bones will port BBEdit to Windows and Linux ;)
The original creators are miffed, irked or a tad put out by this:
https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/npp-trademark-infringement/
"This is not an official Notepad++ release. It-As an unauthorized
project misusing the Notepad++ trademark.-o
Meanehile, on the *-mac.org introductory page we have this piece of
their F.A.Q.:
####################################################################
Is Notepad++ for Mac the official Notepad++? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Notepad++ for Mac is built from the official Notepad++ source code,
which is open-source under the GNU GPL v3. Notepad++ was originally
created by Don Ho in 2003 for Windows. This Mac version is an
independent community port -u it shares the same codebase and feature
set but is maintained separately from the upstream Windows project. It
is not affiliated with Don Ho or the official Notepad++ team. For the official Windows version, visit notepad-plus-plus.org.
How is Notepad++ for Mac different from the Windows version? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The editing experience is identical -u same Scintilla engine, same
syntax highlighting for 80+ languages, same search and replace, same
macro recording, same plugin support. What differs is the user
interface layer: menus, dialogs, file pickers, keyboard shortcuts, and windowing all use native macOS Cocoa APIs so the app feels at home on
a Mac. The binary is a Universal Binary, running natively on both
Apple Silicon and Intel.
####################################################################
I am not, and never wanted to be, a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV,
radio nor in the movies, but I don't think I'd use something the
original creator isn't happy with.
It could be that anyone using the Maccy version *might* be liable for something evil and legalistic.
Like I said, I.A.N.A.L. so maybe it's okay?
John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2026 11:36:10 -0000 (UTC),
alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid (Alan B) wrote:
Do we really need another macOS text editor?
<https://notepad-plus-plus-mac.org>
I've used npp on Windoze and it's fine but there are so many macOS text
editors. Perhaps Bare Bones will port BBEdit to Windows and Linux ;)
The original creators are miffed, irked or a tad put out by this:
https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/npp-trademark-infringement/
"This is not an official Notepad++ release. It-As an unauthorized
project misusing the Notepad++ trademark.-o
Meanehile, on the *-mac.org introductory page we have this piece of
their F.A.Q.:
####################################################################
Is Notepad++ for Mac the official Notepad++?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Notepad++ for Mac is built from the official Notepad++ source code,
which is open-source under the GNU GPL v3. Notepad++ was originally
created by Don Ho in 2003 for Windows. This Mac version is an
independent community port -u it shares the same codebase and feature
set but is maintained separately from the upstream Windows project. It
is not affiliated with Don Ho or the official Notepad++ team. For the
official Windows version, visit notepad-plus-plus.org.
How is Notepad++ for Mac different from the Windows version?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The editing experience is identical -u same Scintilla engine, same
syntax highlighting for 80+ languages, same search and replace, same
macro recording, same plugin support. What differs is the user
interface layer: menus, dialogs, file pickers, keyboard shortcuts, and
windowing all use native macOS Cocoa APIs so the app feels at home on
a Mac. The binary is a Universal Binary, running natively on both
Apple Silicon and Intel.
####################################################################
I am not, and never wanted to be, a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV,
radio nor in the movies, but I don't think I'd use something the
original creator isn't happy with.
It could be that anyone using the Maccy version *might* be liable for
something evil and legalistic.
Like I said, I.A.N.A.L. so maybe it's okay?
If Notepad++ is GPL then there's no issue and the original authors have no grounds to bitch about. They already agreed to this by choosing the GPL.
Simply a case of a developer not actually buying into the whole OSS ethos.
John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2026 11:36:10 -0000 (UTC),
alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid (Alan B) wrote:
Do we really need another macOS text editor?
<https://notepad-plus-plus-mac.org>
I've used npp on Windoze and it's fine but there are so many macOS text
editors. Perhaps Bare Bones will port BBEdit to Windows and Linux ;)
The original creators are miffed, irked or a tad put out by this:
https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/npp-trademark-infringement/
"This is not an official Notepad++ release. It-As an unauthorized
project misusing the Notepad++ trademark.-o
Meanehile, on the *-mac.org introductory page we have this piece of
their F.A.Q.:
####################################################################
Is Notepad++ for Mac the official Notepad++?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Notepad++ for Mac is built from the official Notepad++ source code,
which is open-source under the GNU GPL v3. Notepad++ was originally
created by Don Ho in 2003 for Windows. This Mac version is an
independent community port -u it shares the same codebase and feature
set but is maintained separately from the upstream Windows project. It
is not affiliated with Don Ho or the official Notepad++ team. For the
official Windows version, visit notepad-plus-plus.org.
How is Notepad++ for Mac different from the Windows version?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The editing experience is identical -u same Scintilla engine, same
syntax highlighting for 80+ languages, same search and replace, same
macro recording, same plugin support. What differs is the user
interface layer: menus, dialogs, file pickers, keyboard shortcuts, and
windowing all use native macOS Cocoa APIs so the app feels at home on
a Mac. The binary is a Universal Binary, running natively on both
Apple Silicon and Intel.
####################################################################
I am not, and never wanted to be, a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV,
radio nor in the movies, but I don't think I'd use something the
original creator isn't happy with.
It could be that anyone using the Maccy version *might* be liable for
something evil and legalistic.
Like I said, I.A.N.A.L. so maybe it's okay?
If Notepad++ is GPL then there's no issue and the original authors have no grounds to bitch about. They already agreed to this by choosing the GPL.
Simply a case of a developer not actually buying into the whole OSS ethos.
On 2026-05-01, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
Do we really need another macOS text editor?
<https://notepad-plus-plus-mac.org>
I've used npp on Windoze and it's fine but there are so many macOS text
editors. Perhaps Bare Bones will port BBEdit to Windows and Linux ;)
The only benefit will be for users coming over from Windows feeling more
comfortable.
Possibly. I never yearned for any particular Windows app when I
started using Macs many years ago.
On 2026-05-01, Alan Ralph <alan@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:
On 30 Apr 2026 at 12:36:10rC>pm BST, "Alan B" <Alan B> wrote:
Do we really need another macOS text editor?
<https://notepad-plus-plus-mac.org>
I've used npp on Windoze and it's fine but there are so many macOS text
editors. Perhaps Bare Bones will port BBEdit to Windows and Linux ;)
I note that this is a community port of Notepad++ to the Mac which is tracking
the Windows version, rather than developed by the Notepad++ developers
themselves.
I've never used Notepad++ before, but am going to give it a tire-kick to see >> how it compares to BBEdit. I doubt I'd change, but it's always interesting to
compare and see how other apps tackle various aspects of the writing/editing >> process.
Are you aware of Don Ho's trademark violation notice as pointed out by
John?
<https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/npp-trademark-infringement/>
On 2026-05-02, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2026 11:36:10 -0000 (UTC),
alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid (Alan B) wrote:
Do we really need another macOS text editor?
<https://notepad-plus-plus-mac.org>
I've used npp on Windoze and it's fine but there are so many macOS text >>>> editors. Perhaps Bare Bones will port BBEdit to Windows and Linux ;)
The original creators are miffed, irked or a tad put out by this:
https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/npp-trademark-infringement/
"This is not an official Notepad++ release. It-As an unauthorized
project misusing the Notepad++ trademark.-o
Meanehile, on the *-mac.org introductory page we have this piece of
their F.A.Q.:
####################################################################
Is Notepad++ for Mac the official Notepad++?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Notepad++ for Mac is built from the official Notepad++ source code,
which is open-source under the GNU GPL v3. Notepad++ was originally
created by Don Ho in 2003 for Windows. This Mac version is an
independent community port -u it shares the same codebase and feature
set but is maintained separately from the upstream Windows project. It
is not affiliated with Don Ho or the official Notepad++ team. For the
official Windows version, visit notepad-plus-plus.org.
How is Notepad++ for Mac different from the Windows version?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The editing experience is identical -u same Scintilla engine, same
syntax highlighting for 80+ languages, same search and replace, same
macro recording, same plugin support. What differs is the user
interface layer: menus, dialogs, file pickers, keyboard shortcuts, and
windowing all use native macOS Cocoa APIs so the app feels at home on
a Mac. The binary is a Universal Binary, running natively on both
Apple Silicon and Intel.
####################################################################
I am not, and never wanted to be, a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV,
radio nor in the movies, but I don't think I'd use something the
original creator isn't happy with.
It could be that anyone using the Maccy version *might* be liable for
something evil and legalistic.
Like I said, I.A.N.A.L. so maybe it's okay?
If Notepad++ is GPL then there's no issue and the original authors have no >> grounds to bitch about. They already agreed to this by choosing the GPL.
Simply a case of a developer not actually buying into the whole OSS ethos.
But surely etiquette dictates that the macOS developers ought to seek
the blessing of the app's original developer? Or am I being too nice
and/or naive?
If Notepad++ is GPL then there's no issue and the original authors have no grounds to bitch about. They already agreed to this by choosing the GPL.
Simply a case of a developer not actually buying into the whole OSS ethos.
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
If Notepad++ is GPL then there's no issue and the original authors have no >> grounds to bitch about. They already agreed to this by choosing the GPL.
Simply a case of a developer not actually buying into the whole OSS ethos.
The source code may be GPL, but the trademark isn't.
https://google.github.io/opencasebook/trademarks/
GPLv3 gives an explicit carve out for adding additional restrictions about use of trademarks. GPLv2 (which N++ is) doesn't mention trademarks at all and so doesn't automatically provide a licence that people who use the code may use the trademark.
In short, if the code is licensed GPLv2 then you can take the code and use it in your project. But, without further licence, not misrepresent your project using the trademarks of the upstream project.
For an example of this see the various Debian forks of Mozilla software such as Iceweasel (=Firefox), Icedove (=Thunderbird), Iceape (=Seamonkey), etc, which Debian renamed because Mozilla objected to Debian's use of their trademarks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian%E2%80%93Mozilla_trademark_dispute
From what little I know, that's what I thought. Isn't the whole ethos of opensource/Github spreading the benefits for all?
And I thought the acknowledgements were appropriate . . .
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