• Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked

    From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Mar 10 22:04:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 09/03/2026 19:00, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    With AVG drag and drop did not work...

    *WHY* did that not work?

    There MUST have been a reason.

    Would you like me to help you find it or can you manage by yourself?
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Mar 11 01:38:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Mar 10, 2026 at 3:04:33rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n1birhFjqtlU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 09/03/2026 19:00, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    With AVG drag and drop did not work...

    *WHY* did that not work?

    Because AVG does not support drag and drop. But you can select it as I showed in the video.

    There MUST have been a reason.

    The developers did not add the feature.

    Would you like me to help you find it or can you manage by yourself?

    I am not going to contact AVG and ask them why. Already uninstalled it.
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Fri Mar 13 19:58:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Mar 8, 2026 at 6:11:02rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n15ar6Fk7ghU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 08/03/2026 05:23, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Mar 7, 2026 at 1:24:51rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n125mjF52siU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 07/03/2026 05:57, Gremlin wrote:
    Octothorpe Obelus <one2threeMainstreet@anytown.org>
    news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in
    alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

    How To Protect Your Mac From Malware

    Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A

    [...]

    rCLMost software downloaded onto a Mac is "installed", usually in
    Applications, and shows up in System Information > Installations.

    This is not true.

    Most 3rd party software, not from the Apple App Store, may be found there.

    Have you inspected YOUR Installations folder to check?

    FWIW, here is a screenshot showing most of the current 3rd-party
    software installed on my SSD. You will note at the blue line that Storeograph, another software from EtreSoft Inc which is available from
    the Apple App Store *IS* showing, but that EtreCheck does not.

    Are you able to explain WHY that is?

    Once
    there, software can be scanned with an AV software package to check for
    malware.

    There or elsewhere.

    There IS no application to drag into ESET to scan it.
    Where else can the application be found if it is not actually installed?

    However, a popular tool often recommended by advisors on the
    Apple Support Communities forums (EtreCheck) cannot be checked in this
    manner.

    Not sure what you mean by this. That only apps in the Applications folder can
    be scanned? That they have to be in the System Information database? Either >> way that is not true.

    I appreciate that when EtreCheck is in my 'Downloads' folder it CAN be scanned - but it poses no danger there. Once it is launched -t simply disappears - to where?

    EtreCheck claims NOT to be "installed" - indeed, it does NOT show up in
    Applications or Installations - so just HOW can it be scanned by anti-
    malware software BEFORE being given free reign on an Apple computer?rCY

    What would prevent it?

    How can one find it?

    That is a question asked in the "Comments" section under the video.

    I do not see it.

    Here - clear as day! https://i.ibb.co/9mgdS96R/Screenshot-2026-03-08-at-11-02-15.png

    Do YOU know the answer?

    It does not matter if an app is in the Applications folder or not, nor if it >> had a "real" installer (most Mac apps do not), it can still be scanned.

    Please explain *HOW* I can scan it once it has been launched.

    Thanks for helping me understand this!

    Again, looking at your posts and revisiting to show where you just are not understanding and are focusing more on your attacks than on tech.

    You say most software can be found in System Information >Installations. Unlikely to be most, but even if so it is not relevant. There is nothing wrong with software being distributed without an installer and it is very common on macOS. Other than the App Store it is the norm.

    You then go back to the idea that software without installers cannot be scanned. This is not in any way true. And you ask about scanning EtreCheck after it has been launched. Not a problem -- as I proved to you with a video.

    You are not understanding even the basics of the technology side of this discussion. To be fair, that is fine -- being ignorant of something is not immoral or wrong. And not an insult. I am ignorant of many things (say
    anything beyond very simple programming / coding, or soldering, or welding, etc.) But you present your ignorance as if it is knowledge, then use clearly erroneous conclusions to focus on one piece of software and by extension its developer.

    in short: nothing wrong with being wrong, but being confident in your
    incorrect claims and then focusing on one product / developer IS wrong and harmful.
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  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Fri Mar 13 22:00:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 13/03/2026 19:58, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Mar 8, 2026 at 6:11:02rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n15ar6Fk7ghU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 08/03/2026 05:23, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Mar 7, 2026 at 1:24:51rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n125mjF52siU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 07/03/2026 05:57, Gremlin wrote:
    Octothorpe Obelus <one2threeMainstreet@anytown.org>
    news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in
    alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

    How To Protect Your Mac From Malware

    Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A

    [...]

    rCLMost software downloaded onto a Mac is "installed", usually in
    Applications, and shows up in System Information > Installations.

    This is not true.

    Most 3rd party software, not from the Apple App Store, may be found there. >>
    Have you inspected YOUR Installations folder to check?

    FWIW, here is a screenshot showing most of the current 3rd-party
    software installed on my SSD. You will note at the blue line that
    Storeograph, another software from EtreSoft Inc which is available from
    the Apple App Store *IS* showing, but that EtreCheck does not.

    Are you able to explain WHY that is?

    Once
    there, software can be scanned with an AV software package to check for >>>> malware.

    There or elsewhere.

    There IS no application to drag into ESET to scan it.
    Where else can the application be found if it is not actually installed?

    However, a popular tool often recommended by advisors on the
    Apple Support Communities forums (EtreCheck) cannot be checked in this >>>> manner.

    Not sure what you mean by this. That only apps in the Applications folder can
    be scanned? That they have to be in the System Information database? Either >>> way that is not true.

    I appreciate that when EtreCheck is in my 'Downloads' folder it CAN be
    scanned - but it poses no danger there. Once it is launched -t simply
    disappears - to where?

    EtreCheck claims NOT to be "installed" - indeed, it does NOT show up in >>>> Applications or Installations - so just HOW can it be scanned by anti- >>>> malware software BEFORE being given free reign on an Apple computer?rCY >>>
    What would prevent it?

    How can one find it?

    That is a question asked in the "Comments" section under the video.

    I do not see it.

    Here - clear as day!
    https://i.ibb.co/9mgdS96R/Screenshot-2026-03-08-at-11-02-15.png

    Do YOU know the answer?

    It does not matter if an app is in the Applications folder or not, nor if it
    had a "real" installer (most Mac apps do not), it can still be scanned.

    Please explain *HOW* I can scan it once it has been launched.

    Thanks for helping me understand this!

    Again, looking at your posts and revisiting to show where you just are not understanding and are focusing more on your attacks than on tech.

    You say most software can be found in System Information >Installations. Unlikely to be most, but even if so it is not relevant. There is nothing wrong
    with software being distributed without an installer and it is very common on macOS. Other than the App Store it is the norm.

    You then go back to the idea that software without installers cannot be scanned. This is not in any way true. And you ask about scanning EtreCheck after it has been launched. Not a problem -- as I proved to you with a video.

    You are not understanding even the basics of the technology side of this discussion. To be fair, that is fine -- being ignorant of something is not immoral or wrong. And not an insult. I am ignorant of many things (say anything beyond very simple programming / coding, or soldering, or welding, etc.) But you present your ignorance as if it is knowledge, then use clearly erroneous conclusions to focus on one piece of software and by extension its developer.

    in short: nothing wrong with being wrong, but being confident in your incorrect claims and then focusing on one product / developer IS wrong and harmful.

    May I have a link to that video again?

    Will you also explain how you actually MADE the video?

    Thanks.
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Fri Mar 13 23:36:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Mar 13, 2026 at 3:00:50rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n1jfoiFrb9kU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 13/03/2026 19:58, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    ...

    Again, looking at your posts and revisiting to show where you just are not >> understanding and are focusing more on your attacks than on tech.

    You say most software can be found in System Information >Installations.
    Unlikely to be most, but even if so it is not relevant. There is nothing wrong
    with software being distributed without an installer and it is very common on
    macOS. Other than the App Store it is the norm.

    You then go back to the idea that software without installers cannot be
    scanned. This is not in any way true. And you ask about scanning EtreCheck >> after it has been launched. Not a problem -- as I proved to you with a video.

    You are not understanding even the basics of the technology side of this
    discussion. To be fair, that is fine -- being ignorant of something is not >> immoral or wrong. And not an insult. I am ignorant of many things (say
    anything beyond very simple programming / coding, or soldering, or welding, >> etc.) But you present your ignorance as if it is knowledge, then use clearly >> erroneous conclusions to focus on one piece of software and by extension its >> developer.

    in short: nothing wrong with being wrong, but being confident in your
    incorrect claims and then focusing on one product / developer IS wrong and >> harmful.

    May I have a link to that video again?

    Sure.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TB0qTwkjHxH9E-8y0KCFee_LMtSBwcPS/view?usp=share_link

    Will you also explain how you actually MADE the video?

    Thanks.

    I used ScreenFlow... but the basics are simple:

    I set up the windows as I wanted, turned on recording, did the steps you see, and then ended the recording. In post production (after recording) I did
    change the cursor so it was easier to see, but you can use the macOS built in tools and get a recording just fine. I also trimmed the first bit and the last to just focus on the time I wanted to show.

    In macOS you can record with

    Command+Shift+5
    Record Entire Screen (or selected window or portion if you prefer)
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  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Mar 14 00:16:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 13/03/2026 23:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Mar 13, 2026 at 3:00:50rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n1jfoiFrb9kU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 13/03/2026 19:58, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    ...

    Again, looking at your posts and revisiting to show where you just are not >>> understanding and are focusing more on your attacks than on tech.

    You say most software can be found in System Information >Installations. >>> Unlikely to be most, but even if so it is not relevant. There is nothing wrong
    with software being distributed without an installer and it is very common on
    macOS. Other than the App Store it is the norm.

    You then go back to the idea that software without installers cannot be
    scanned. This is not in any way true. And you ask about scanning EtreCheck >>> after it has been launched. Not a problem -- as I proved to you with a video.

    You are not understanding even the basics of the technology side of this >>> discussion. To be fair, that is fine -- being ignorant of something is not >>> immoral or wrong. And not an insult. I am ignorant of many things (say
    anything beyond very simple programming / coding, or soldering, or welding, >>> etc.) But you present your ignorance as if it is knowledge, then use clearly
    erroneous conclusions to focus on one piece of software and by extension its
    developer.

    in short: nothing wrong with being wrong, but being confident in your
    incorrect claims and then focusing on one product / developer IS wrong and >>> harmful.

    May I have a link to that video again?

    Sure.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TB0qTwkjHxH9E-8y0KCFee_LMtSBwcPS/view?usp=share_link

    Thank you. EfN#

    Will you also explain how you actually MADE the video?

    Thanks.

    I used ScreenFlow... but the basics are simple:

    I don't have that - it's -u180 = $238 today! *BIG BUCKS*

    I set up the windows as I wanted, turned on recording, did the steps you see, and then ended the recording. In post production (after recording) I did change the cursor so it was easier to see, but you can use the macOS built in tools and get a recording just fine. I also trimmed the first bit and the last
    to just focus on the time I wanted to show.

    Thank for explaining.

    In macOS you can record with

    Command+Shift+5
    Record Entire Screen (or selected window or portion if you prefer)

    Thanks for reminding me!
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Mar 14 01:04:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Mar 13, 2026 at 5:16:01rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n1jnm1FsgmpU2@mid.individual.net>:

    On 13/03/2026 23:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Mar 13, 2026 at 3:00:50rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n1jfoiFrb9kU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 13/03/2026 19:58, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    ...

    Again, looking at your posts and revisiting to show where you just are not >>>> understanding and are focusing more on your attacks than on tech.

    You say most software can be found in System Information >Installations. >>>> Unlikely to be most, but even if so it is not relevant. There is nothing wrong
    with software being distributed without an installer and it is very common on
    macOS. Other than the App Store it is the norm.

    You then go back to the idea that software without installers cannot be >>>> scanned. This is not in any way true. And you ask about scanning EtreCheck >>>> after it has been launched. Not a problem -- as I proved to you with a video.

    You are not understanding even the basics of the technology side of this >>>> discussion. To be fair, that is fine -- being ignorant of something is not >>>> immoral or wrong. And not an insult. I am ignorant of many things (say >>>> anything beyond very simple programming / coding, or soldering, or welding,
    etc.) But you present your ignorance as if it is knowledge, then use clearly
    erroneous conclusions to focus on one piece of software and by extension its
    developer.

    in short: nothing wrong with being wrong, but being confident in your
    incorrect claims and then focusing on one product / developer IS wrong and >>>> harmful.

    May I have a link to that video again?

    Sure.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TB0qTwkjHxH9E-8y0KCFee_LMtSBwcPS/view?usp=share_link

    Thank you. EfN#

    Will you also explain how you actually MADE the video?

    Thanks.

    I used ScreenFlow... but the basics are simple:

    I don't have that - it's -u180 = $238 today! *BIG BUCKS*

    Right... not suggesting you buy it.

    I set up the windows as I wanted, turned on recording, did the steps you see,
    and then ended the recording. In post production (after recording) I did
    change the cursor so it was easier to see, but you can use the macOS built in
    tools and get a recording just fine. I also trimmed the first bit and the last
    to just focus on the time I wanted to show.

    Thank for explaining.

    No problem.

    In macOS you can record with

    Command+Shift+5
    Record Entire Screen (or selected window or portion if you prefer)

    Thanks for reminding me!

    Of course. I figured the question was not just how I did it, but also how you could. The built in ways work fine for this.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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