• Re: You can protect your Mac from malware by following three simple rules!

    From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop on Sun Mar 22 06:18:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> news:n109oqFqmcqU1@mid.individual.net
    Fri, 06 Mar 2026 15:22:02 GMT in uk.comp.sys.mac, wrote:

    On 05/03/2026 20:54, David B. wrote:
    On 04/03/2026 15:42, David B. wrote:
    On 04/03/2026 David B. suggests you watch ...

    *How To Protect Your Mac From Malware*
    A video by Gary Rosenzweig

    Learn from Gary!- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A

    00:00 Intro
    00:14 1. Don't Download Apps From Sources You Shouldn't Trust
    02:12 2. Keep Your Mac Updated
    03:20 3. Backup Your Data
    04:50 Do You Need An Anti-Malware App?
    06:31 Problems Are Usually Not Malware
    08:09 Stay Informed
    08:40 Scams Are a Bigger Threat

    What are /your/ thoughts on this subject matter?

    --
    FYI .....
    https://mastodon.social/@rosenz


    Gary has now responded to a recent comment.

    Have you seen that?

    Gary was asked about this some years ago.

    https://macmost.com/?s=EtreCheck

    Please review BOTH items!

    FWIW, EtreCheck is *NOT* available from the Apple App Store nowadays.

    rCLMost software downloaded onto a Mac is "installed", usually in Applications, and shows up in System Information > Installations. Once there, software can be scanned with an AV software package to check for malware. However, a popular tool often recommended by advisors on the
    Apple Support Communities forums (EtreCheck) cannot be checked in this manner.
    EtreCheck claims NOT to be "installed" - indeed, it does NOT show up in Applications or Installations - so just HOW can it be scanned by anti-malware software BEFORE being given free reign on an Apple
    computer?rCY

    Surely /somebody/ can answer the question!

    Thanks to your known and established reputation as a dishonest as fucking possible troll. A troll who has a personal issue of his own making with
    the author of etrecheck - which is why you continue to slime it with posts
    like the one I'm responding to - so works very hard to infer that the
    software is malicious or could be hiding malicious code with the intention
    of taking over your computer.

    David, I took the liberty of forwarding a complete copy of our email correspondence. I also included some usenet links he could reach via google and MIDs of specific posts if he knew how to use them. When I shared my
    simple right click lookup script, I emailed them a copy and explained how to use it.

    When you go and create new posts like this one, obviously with the intention of slime, I pass along copies to him. He's never asked me to do any of this. He didn't need to do so. I don't mind keeping tabs on you and keeping him aware of your activities.

    I rarely agree with anything Snit has to write - because it's usually self grandifying and dishonest on his part. However, he has been very forward and honest with you concerning John specifically as well as Etrecheck. He's politely told you several times that what you're doing is wrong, that you haven't proven a single negative thing you've written, AND, you're causing potential harm to the individual and his small company. Snit (of all people) has repeatedly told you that this crusade of yours is wrong and you should
    not be engaging in it.

    Nobody who posts to alt.computer.workshop has agreed with your actions
    towards the author or etrecheck. Why won't you stop? The program is legitimate, it doesn't give the author full access to your computer - Why do you continue claiming otherwise with no evidence of any kind to support the accusation?

    His payment front end should be applying a filter so that you cannot
    purchase a license for it, again. Instead, that filter should be installed
    and a full refund issued to you. No request on your part for this should be necessary. The filter should be able to prevent you from purchasing another license.

    As a proprieter here, I would have been able to recoup my transation losses starting the second time. It would have been deducted directly from the account associated with the card you used to make the purchases. You would have been flagged as a repeat offender on a list very close to the list maintained on others who buy things and then issue a return 24 hours or less later.

    In simpler terms, the payment processor I use would deduct the fees they normally give me from your debit/credit card and it would be legal. I don't know if that's an option in your country but I do think John should look
    into legal and financial options at this point. The next email I sent I will make those suggestions. It's very clear that asking you to stop, multiple people (one of which is supposed to be your friend here) asking you to stop isn't going to work. Instead. if you're held to financial accountability you might reconsider such activities in the future - after you've paid that is.


    How many times do you need to be told that the software is clean before
    you grasp the concept? There's nothing malicious about the program.
    Nothing malicious about it's author, either. Stop stalking the individual
    and sliming his product as you're doing here in yet another newsgroup.

    Imo, instead of ignoring you as he has - he should be consulting with a
    lawyer about what to do with you. AFter he looks into his card processor options. They don't like doing purchase/refund routines to punish a company either. And, they have been known to extract penalty funds from the consumer intent on doing it.

    It hasn't been simply venting or a
    matter of banter back in forth for quite sometime now. The author needs to clearly understand that your intentions are negative in nature. That you
    mean his company financial harm. All because you couldn't get him to
    entertain your off the wall Questions and Answers emails.

    David, I know i'm repeating what you've already been told (again many
    times now) - If you don't like the software - don't use it. If you don't
    trust the software...Don't use it. Please stop making unfounded
    accusations concerning the software and it's author. It's beyond tiresome.
    Very dishonest on your part too.

    I am pleased to see that nobody has taken the time to respond to a single
    post of yours in this thread. At the time I wrote this.
    I'm the first one to do so and I'm calling you out for the vile shit things you're doing. Yay!
    --
    Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
    Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
    Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Mar 22 20:51:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Mar 21, 2026 at 11:18:08rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote <XnsB417176BD90C8HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    https://chatgpt.com/share/69c05637-d098-800c-b357-4d53af777d70

    GremlinrCOs reply is almost entirely ad hominem and escalation, with no real technical content. The concern about a non-installed tool being unscannable is based on a false premise rCo macOS apps can be scanned and verified regardless of rCLinstallationrCY status. Claims about payment processors and legal remedies
    are exaggerated or incorrect. The only worthwhile part of the thread is the original question about how such tools are vetted; the rest is noise.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop on Sun Mar 22 23:36:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 22/03/2026 06:18, Gremlin wrote:
    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> news:n109oqFqmcqU1@mid.individual.net
    Fri, 06 Mar 2026 15:22:02 GMT in uk.comp.sys.mac, wrote:

    On 05/03/2026 20:54, David B. wrote:
    On 04/03/2026 15:42, David B. wrote:
    On 04/03/2026 David B. suggests you watch ...

    *How To Protect Your Mac From Malware*
    A video by Gary Rosenzweig

    Learn from Gary!ro4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A

    00:00 Intro
    00:14 1. Don't Download Apps From Sources You Shouldn't Trust
    02:12 2. Keep Your Mac Updated
    03:20 3. Backup Your Data
    04:50 Do You Need An Anti-Malware App?
    06:31 Problems Are Usually Not Malware
    08:09 Stay Informed
    08:40 Scams Are a Bigger Threat

    What are /your/ thoughts on this subject matter?

    --
    FYI .....
    https://mastodon.social/@rosenz


    Gary has now responded to a recent comment.

    Have you seen that?

    Gary was asked about this some years ago.

    https://macmost.com/?s=EtreCheck

    Please review BOTH items!

    FWIW, EtreCheck is *NOT* available from the Apple App Store nowadays.

    -e-E-4Most software downloaded onto a Mac is "installed", usually in
    Applications, and shows up in System Information > Installations. Once
    there, software can be scanned with an AV software package to check for
    malware. However, a popular tool often recommended by advisors on the
    Apple Support Communities forums (EtreCheck) cannot be checked in this
    manner.
    EtreCheck claims NOT to be "installed" - indeed, it does NOT show up in
    Applications or Installations - so just HOW can it be scanned by
    anti-malware software BEFORE being given free reign on an Apple
    computer?-e-E-!

    Surely /somebody/ can answer the question!

    Thanks to your known and established reputation as a dishonest as fucking possible troll. A troll who has a personal issue of his own making with
    the author of etrecheck - which is why you continue to slime it with posts like the one I'm responding to - so works very hard to infer that the software is malicious or could be hiding malicious code with the intention
    of taking over your computer.

    David, I took the liberty of forwarding a complete copy of our email correspondence. I also included some usenet links he could reach via google and MIDs of specific posts if he knew how to use them. When I shared my simple right click lookup script, I emailed them a copy and explained how to use it.

    When you go and create new posts like this one, obviously with the intention of slime, I pass along copies to him. He's never asked me to do any of this. He didn't need to do so. I don't mind keeping tabs on you and keeping him aware of your activities.

    I rarely agree with anything Snit has to write - because it's usually self grandifying and dishonest on his part. However, he has been very forward and honest with you concerning John specifically as well as Etrecheck. He's politely told you several times that what you're doing is wrong, that you haven't proven a single negative thing you've written, AND, you're causing potential harm to the individual and his small company. Snit (of all people) has repeatedly told you that this crusade of yours is wrong and you should not be engaging in it.

    Nobody who posts to alt.computer.workshop has agreed with your actions towards the author or etrecheck. Why won't you stop? The program is legitimate, it doesn't give the author full access to your computer - Why do you continue claiming otherwise with no evidence of any kind to support the accusation?

    His payment front end should be applying a filter so that you cannot
    purchase a license for it, again. Instead, that filter should be installed and a full refund issued to you. No request on your part for this should be necessary. The filter should be able to prevent you from purchasing another license.

    As a proprieter here, I would have been able to recoup my transation losses starting the second time. It would have been deducted directly from the account associated with the card you used to make the purchases. You would have been flagged as a repeat offender on a list very close to the list maintained on others who buy things and then issue a return 24 hours or less later.

    In simpler terms, the payment processor I use would deduct the fees they normally give me from your debit/credit card and it would be legal. I don't know if that's an option in your country but I do think John should look
    into legal and financial options at this point. The next email I sent I will make those suggestions. It's very clear that asking you to stop, multiple people (one of which is supposed to be your friend here) asking you to stop isn't going to work. Instead. if you're held to financial accountability you might reconsider such activities in the future - after you've paid that is.


    How many times do you need to be told that the software is clean before
    you grasp the concept? There's nothing malicious about the program.
    Nothing malicious about it's author, either. Stop stalking the individual
    and sliming his product as you're doing here in yet another newsgroup.

    Imo, instead of ignoring you as he has - he should be consulting with a lawyer about what to do with you. AFter he looks into his card processor options. They don't like doing purchase/refund routines to punish a company either. And, they have been known to extract penalty funds from the consumer intent on doing it.

    It hasn't been simply venting or a
    matter of banter back in forth for quite sometime now. The author needs to clearly understand that your intentions are negative in nature. That you
    mean his company financial harm. All because you couldn't get him to entertain your off the wall Questions and Answers emails.

    David, I know i'm repeating what you've already been told (again many
    times now) - If you don't like the software - don't use it. If you don't trust the software...Don't use it. Please stop making unfounded
    accusations concerning the software and it's author. It's beyond tiresome. Very dishonest on your part too.

    I am pleased to see that nobody has taken the time to respond to a single post of yours in this thread. At the time I wrote this.
    I'm the first one to do so and I'm calling you out for the vile shit things you're doing. Yay!


    Thank you for all you have done to help protect the author of EtreCheck.

    I've discovered that it is a really useful tool after all, especially
    when moving all my data from one iMac to another this last week.

    Have you not been surprised that the purchase price of EtreCheck has not changed a dime since first day it was launched? It's a small price to
    pay for the extra insight it provides.
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop on Fri Apr 10 07:50:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> news:n2bco9Fjoa8U1@mid.individual.net
    Sun, 22 Mar 2026 23:36:41 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    Thank you for all you have done to help protect the author of EtreCheck.

    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not require any
    help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be protected from. You are well known in AV/AM circles David. A bothersome troll with a drinking problem for the most part. Your tendency of trying to stalk people and companies is also well known in those circles. It's also known outside of them.

    I've heard a story from a couple of people now about a legal representative that will be making contact with you in the not so distant future. I took
    the liberty of providing them your telephone numbers and residential address
    - just in case they didn't already have such information on file.

    I didn't want you to miss their effort to contact you, and, I didn't think you'd mind that I shared the information. After all, I made it public information some years back. :) Despite your efforts to keep me from doing
    so.


    Speaking of which, how far along is that raiding party? You know, the one
    you promised I'd meet if I went ahead and showed you what an .NFO file was?

    I still don't know why you got so upset over that - it was as you often say, all in fun. Nothing nefarious was intended. Didn't you find the virtual postcards amusing? :)

    I've discovered that it is a really useful tool after all, especially
    when moving all my data from one iMac to another this last week.

    It's almost scary how arrogant yet so dumb concerning IT you are. You and
    snit are poster children for birth control, David. Fucking poster children. His mom should have made an effort to drink a bit more everyday when she learned she was prego with fucktardo. The outcome could have saved us and
    many before us a lot of time and aggrivation. Imagine - he doesn't exist so can't become a welfare leeching usenet troll with problems that can't be resolved with a few couch sessions. He needs long term care in an assisted living facility.

    Maybe he'll fuckup and run his mouth on usenet or in person to someone who isn't physically far from him. Perhaps they will hit him in the jaw just
    right to where it causes a problem with the main computer. In snits case though, little effort is required to expose multiple problems with what
    passes for a main computer in his brain. I'm sure he was living well when
    his kids were under age. bonus food stamps (welfare) now he has to accept whatever the state will give him.

    He is able bodied David. He could work even a shitjob on the books. He'd rather not do that. He'd much rather do side jobs for cash under the table
    and let myself and others who work and live in this country continue to pay his way.

    Here's hoping that someone sues you and takes you to the cleaners. I'll
    gloat about that outcome for years to come. It will bring me great enjoyment for years to come to learn/know that you lost everything all nice n legal.

    --
    Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
    Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
    Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Fri Apr 10 08:07:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> news:n2bco9Fjoa8U1@mid.individual.net
    Sun, 22 Mar 2026 23:36:41 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    Thank you for all you have done to help protect the author of EtreCheck.

    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not require any help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be protected from. You are well known in AV/AM circles David. A bothersome troll with a drinking problem for the most part. Your tendency of trying to stalk people and companies is also well known in those circles. It's also known outside of them.

    I've heard a story from a couple of people now about a legal representative that will be making contact with you in the not so distant future. I took the liberty of providing them your telephone numbers and residential address - just in case they didn't already have such information on file.

    I didn't want you to miss their effort to contact you, and, I didn't think you'd mind that I shared the information. After all, I made it public information some years back. :) Despite your efforts to keep me from doing so.


    Speaking of which, how far along is that raiding party? You know, the one you promised I'd meet if I went ahead and showed you what an .NFO file was?

    I still don't know why you got so upset over that - it was as you often say, all in fun. Nothing nefarious was intended. Didn't you find the virtual postcards amusing? :)

    I've discovered that it is a really useful tool after all, especially
    when moving all my data from one iMac to another this last week.

    It's almost scary how arrogant yet so dumb concerning IT you are. You and snit are poster children for birth control, David. Fucking poster children. His mom should have made an effort to drink a bit more everyday when she learned she was prego with fucktardo. The outcome could have saved us and many before us a lot of time and aggrivation. Imagine - he doesn't exist so can't become a welfare leeching usenet troll with problems that can't be resolved with a few couch sessions. He needs long term care in an assisted living facility.

    Maybe he'll fuckup and run his mouth on usenet or in person to someone who isn't physically far from him. Perhaps they will hit him in the jaw just right to where it causes a problem with the main computer. In snits case though, little effort is required to expose multiple problems with what passes for a main computer in his brain. I'm sure he was living well when his kids were under age. bonus food stamps (welfare) now he has to accept whatever the state will give him.

    He is able bodied David. He could work even a shitjob on the books. He'd rather not do that. He'd much rather do side jobs for cash under the table and let myself and others who work and live in this country continue to pay his way.

    Here's hoping that someone sues you and takes you to the cleaners. I'll gloat about that outcome for years to come. It will bring me great enjoyment for years to come to learn/know that you lost everything all nice n legal.




    You lied about telling to relevant legal representatives.

    How pathetic of you.
    --
    Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
    cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
    somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

    They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop on Sat Apr 11 14:27:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 10/04/2026 08:50, Gremlin wrote:
    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not require any help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be protected from.

    Well, that *IS* good to hear! EfOe

    Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Developer of EtreCheck recently.

    He has NOT responded (contrary to his Terms of Business)

    =

    Hello John,

    I hope you donrCOt mind me getting in touch directly.

    IrCOve purchased and used EtreCheck extensively while setting up a rCLnew to merCY 27-inch 2019 iMac. As part of that process, I migrated data from
    another Mac, so IrCOm aware there would have been many legacy files
    carried across.

    I have a question about report handling that IrCOve been trying to
    understand more precisely.

    When I generate a report and select rCLDonrCOt keep reportrCY, I still see files being created or updated under:

    ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck

    My assumption is that this may reflect internal data structures,
    caching, or partial report storage rather than user-facing report
    history rCo but I wanted to confirm.

    Would you mind clarifying:

    Does EtreCheck still write report data (full or partial) to disk even
    when rCLDonrCOt keep reportrCY is selected?
    Is that option intended only to control whether the report appears in
    the apprCOs history?
    Are these files expected to persist across sessions, or are they
    intended to be temporary?
    IrCOm not concerned rCo just trying to properly understand how things work, especially given the migration from an older system.

    Thanks for your time, and for a very useful tool.

    Best regards,
    David

    =

    I'd welcome advice on this matter from ANYONE reading here with regard
    to whether or not copies of reports should be stored surreptitiously in
    the 'hidden' Library.
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Apr 11 13:50:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 6:27:28rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n3v0i0F194tU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 10/04/2026 08:50, Gremlin wrote:
    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not require any
    help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be protected from.

    Well, that *IS* good to hear! EfOe

    Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Developer of EtreCheck recently.

    He has NOT responded (contrary to his Terms of Business)

    You know why he does not respond to you!

    =

    Hello John,

    I hope you donrCOt mind me getting in touch directly.

    He does. Please leave him alone.

    ...
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Apr 11 15:21:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/04/2026 14:50, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 6:27:28rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n3v0i0F194tU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 10/04/2026 08:50, Gremlin wrote:
    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not require any >>> help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be protected from.

    Well, that *IS* good to hear! EfOe

    Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Developer of EtreCheck recently.

    He has NOT responded (contrary to his Terms of Business)

    You know why he does not respond to you!

    He has sold me the product. He has taken payment.

    He should honour his part of the deal.

    =

    Hello John,

    I hope you donrCOt mind me getting in touch directly.

    He does. Please leave him alone.

    Read his Terms of Business!

    https://etrecheck.com/en/terms.html
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Apr 11 14:58:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 7:21:57rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n3v3o5F1olcU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 11/04/2026 14:50, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 6:27:28rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3v0i0F194tU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 10/04/2026 08:50, Gremlin wrote:
    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not require any >>>> help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be protected from. >>>
    Well, that *IS* good to hear! EfOe

    Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Developer of EtreCheck recently. >>>
    He has NOT responded (contrary to his Terms of Business)

    You know why he does not respond to you!

    He has sold me the product. He has taken payment.

    Automated system. Please leave him alone.

    He should honour his part of the deal.

    You broke the deal with your online insinuations. He has no obligation to repair.

    =

    Hello John,

    I hope you donrCOt mind me getting in touch directly.

    He does. Please leave him alone.

    Read his Terms of Business!

    https://etrecheck.com/en/terms.html

    There is an unstated assumption of operating in good faith which you broke. He has no obligation to repair it, or even accept your efforts to repair it.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Apr 11 19:50:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/04/2026 15:58, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 7:21:57rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n3v3o5F1olcU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 11/04/2026 14:50, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 6:27:28rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3v0i0F194tU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 10/04/2026 08:50, Gremlin wrote:
    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not require any >>>>> help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be protected from. >>>>
    Well, that *IS* good to hear! EfOe

    Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Developer of EtreCheck recently. >>>>
    He has NOT responded (contrary to his Terms of Business)

    You know why he does not respond to you!

    He has sold me the product. He has taken payment.

    Automated system. Please leave him alone.

    He should honour his part of the deal.

    You broke the deal with your online insinuations. He has no obligation to repair.

    I have made *ZERO* insinuations since I last bought the product!

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10240210725473349&set=p.10240210725473349&type=3

    Hello John,

    I hope you donrCOt mind me getting in touch directly.

    He does. Please leave him alone.

    Read his Terms of Business!

    https://etrecheck.com/en/terms.html

    There is an unstated assumption of operating in good faith which you broke. He
    has no obligation to repair it, or even accept your efforts to repair it.

    I don't accept that. He accepted my payment (just a short time ago)
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Apr 11 20:25:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 11:50:17rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n3vjf9F453rU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 11/04/2026 15:58, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 7:21:57rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3v3o5F1olcU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 11/04/2026 14:50, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 6:27:28rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3v0i0F194tU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 10/04/2026 08:50, Gremlin wrote:
    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not require any
    help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be protected from. >>>>>
    Well, that *IS* good to hear! EfOe

    Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Developer of EtreCheck recently. >>>>>
    He has NOT responded (contrary to his Terms of Business)

    You know why he does not respond to you!

    He has sold me the product. He has taken payment.

    Automated system. Please leave him alone.

    He should honour his part of the deal.

    You broke the deal with your online insinuations. He has no obligation to
    repair.

    I have made *ZERO* insinuations since I last bought the product!

    But you made them in the past. You broke the deal. He is under no obligation
    to give you another chance.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10240210725473349&set=p.10240210725473349&type=3

    Hello John,

    I hope you donrCOt mind me getting in touch directly.

    He does. Please leave him alone.

    Read his Terms of Business!

    https://etrecheck.com/en/terms.html

    There is an unstated assumption of operating in good faith which you broke. He
    has no obligation to repair it, or even accept your efforts to repair it.

    I don't accept that. He accepted my payment (just a short time ago)

    Automated system.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Apr 11 22:33:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/04/2026 21:25, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 11:50:17rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n3vjf9F453rU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 11/04/2026 15:58, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 7:21:57rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3v3o5F1olcU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 11/04/2026 14:50, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 6:27:28rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3v0i0F194tU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 10/04/2026 08:50, Gremlin wrote:
    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not require any
    help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be protected from. >>>>>>
    Well, that *IS* good to hear! EfOe

    Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Developer of EtreCheck recently.

    He has NOT responded (contrary to his Terms of Business)

    You know why he does not respond to you!

    He has sold me the product. He has taken payment.

    Automated system. Please leave him alone.

    He should honour his part of the deal.

    You broke the deal with your online insinuations. He has no obligation to >>> repair.

    I have made *ZERO* insinuations since I last bought the product!

    But you made them in the past. You broke the deal. He is under no obligation to give you another chance.

    You may think that. I think you are wrong.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10240210725473349&set=p.10240210725473349&type=3

    Hello John,

    I hope you donrCOt mind me getting in touch directly.

    He does. Please leave him alone.

    Read his Terms of Business!

    https://etrecheck.com/en/terms.html

    There is an unstated assumption of operating in good faith which you broke. He
    has no obligation to repair it, or even accept your efforts to repair it. >>
    I don't accept that. He accepted my payment (just a short time ago)

    Automated system.

    Indeed it is. He could send my money back and cancel my license - but he
    has not done so. IMO he should respond to my query.

    Have YOU checked to see if YOU have past EtreCheck reports hidden here?

    ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck

    Do tell. Thanks.
    --
    David
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 00:09:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 2:33:38rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n3vt1iF5j1aU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 11/04/2026 21:25, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 11:50:17rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3vjf9F453rU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 11/04/2026 15:58, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 7:21:57rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3v3o5F1olcU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 11/04/2026 14:50, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 6:27:28rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3v0i0F194tU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 10/04/2026 08:50, Gremlin wrote:
    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not require any
    help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be protected from.

    Well, that *IS* good to hear! EfOe

    Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Developer of EtreCheck recently.

    He has NOT responded (contrary to his Terms of Business)

    You know why he does not respond to you!

    He has sold me the product. He has taken payment.

    Automated system. Please leave him alone.

    He should honour his part of the deal.

    You broke the deal with your online insinuations. He has no obligation to >>>> repair.

    I have made *ZERO* insinuations since I last bought the product!

    But you made them in the past. You broke the deal. He is under no obligation >> to give you another chance.

    You may think that. I think you are wrong.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10240210725473349&set=p.10240210725473349&type=3

    Hello John,

    I hope you donrCOt mind me getting in touch directly.

    He does. Please leave him alone.

    Read his Terms of Business!

    https://etrecheck.com/en/terms.html

    There is an unstated assumption of operating in good faith which you broke. He
    has no obligation to repair it, or even accept your efforts to repair it. >>>
    I don't accept that. He accepted my payment (just a short time ago)

    Automated system.

    Indeed it is. He could send my money back and cancel my license - but he
    has not done so. IMO he should respond to my query.

    I disagree with your opinion. Refunding your money would make sense but that would mean interacting with you. He clearly does not want that.

    Have YOU checked to see if YOU have past EtreCheck reports hidden here?

    ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck

    Do tell. Thanks.

    I have some there, but not hidden. Or maybe there are obvious ones and secret hidden ones too! :)
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop on Sun Apr 12 03:25:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> news:n3v0i0F194tU1@mid.individual.net
    Sat, 11 Apr 2026 13:27:28 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On 10/04/2026 08:50, Gremlin wrote:
    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not require
    any help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be protected
    from.

    Well, that *IS* good to hear! EfOe

    Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Developer of EtreCheck
    recently.

    I'm surprised (no, not really) to find that you're still trying to converse with him after the previous incidents.

    He has NOT responded (contrary to his Terms of Business)

    He shouldn't respond to you. Not after the bullshit you previously wrote
    about him and his software. I would have issued an automatic refund then
    tried to ensure that the front end wouldn't allow you to make so much as a single purchase OR! donation to my company. You are one of those customers that is passed off to another shop/technician because of what you are and
    your real intentions. The nice nice facade doesn't work forever, David.

    You have a previous history with the author of Etrecheck. That history is
    one you opted to create which put you on unstable ground with the author. Again, I wouldn't consider you a customer either and I would have already issued a refund and revoked your license.

    You are not a customer that's good for any business. You are a bothersome obnoxious troll who libels and slanders people, companies, and their
    products.

    Thanks for your time, and for a very useful tool.

    I didn't see the specific reason you opted to share the email with any of us here? I doubt that anyone, including Snit, would be willing to establish contact with the author on your behalf. Nobody else wants to be confused for being a 'friend' of yours and treated in the same manner as you have been. Which was all directly the result of you and your efforts to besmirch the author and the program. Not to mention the attempts to stalk not only him personally but the companies background as well. I doubt that I'm the only
    one who reached out to him and shared some emails as well as your usenet
    posts badmouthing him and his program. Inferring that the program had a backdoor and could remote control your machine. Those posts, I sent him
    copies of. With full headers.

    I probably have the same view of your email as John does. Especially when I consider our past and your shady nature right off the bat towards me. You treated him in the same manner; and like me, when he didn't respond
    according to your concept of time, you opted to come to usenet and badmouth his program as well as himself and his company. You really are a piece of shit, David Brooks. You will always be a piece of shit unworthy of anyones trust or respect.

    I'd welcome advice on this matter from ANYONE reading here with regard
    to whether or not copies of reports should be stored surreptitiously in
    the 'hidden' Library.

    I refuse to assist you any further concerning Etrecheck. Let someone else
    take your bait here. I'm sure you can find atleast one sucker besides Snit.
    --
    Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
    Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
    Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 03:25:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> news:69da5194$0$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sat, 11 Apr 2026 13:50:12
    GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 6:27:28rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n3v0i0F194tU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 10/04/2026 08:50, Gremlin wrote:
    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not require
    any help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be protected
    from.

    Well, that *IS* good to hear! EfOe

    Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Developer of EtreCheck
    recently.

    He has NOT responded (contrary to his Terms of Business)

    You know why he does not respond to you!

    Correct. He knows *exactly what he did* which caused the lack of two way
    comms for him and the author. It's his own fault and he knows it! You
    can't go from badmouthing a program repeatedly on usenet and elsewhere to essentially pretending to be a legit client asking for help. David burned
    that bridge and continues to do so; ensuring he took out the pillars as
    well.

    Hello John,

    I hope you donrCOt mind me getting in touch directly.

    He does. Please leave him alone.

    Correct again. Solid advice you have provided David Brooks too. He will
    not take it for what it's worth and he will continue with his campaign
    against Etrecheck. The only realistic way he will stop is if the author involves him in a lawsuit. I continue to encourage the author to respond
    in this manner each time I send him copies of Davids posts; like the one
    he wrote as a reply. I do my best to keep the author in the loop. I know
    what David does. I didn't have the benefit at the time of a heads up or advanced warning concerning him. So, I do my best to ensure others do
    before they respond the first time. I know what he's upto and I know how
    the emails will go.

    He slimes, he berates and he wastes other peoples time. He chooses to
    remain ignorant concerning various aspects of tech and that's intentional
    on his part too. As I told him before, av/am and the other side are well
    aware of him and have the same view of him as I do. As others who have
    written and supported software and been contacted by David Brooks do.

    While I appreciate you being sober and critical thinking skills enabled
    enough to respond to David in the manner in which you did; I know that
    David will circular file your very sound advice on this occasion and
    continue doing what he does towards that author. It's just how David
    Brooks is.

    I told you before, neither of you can help the other be seen as something
    that you are not. The history you both have prevents it. Your current interactions and various bullshit you've both been writing about myself
    and others ensures that you won't be treated as you feel you should.
    --
    Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
    Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
    Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 03:25:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> news:69da61af$2$55442$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sat, 11 Apr 2026
    14:58:55 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 7:21:57rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n3v3o5F1olcU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 11/04/2026 14:50, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 6:27:28rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3v0i0F194tU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 10/04/2026 08:50, Gremlin wrote:
    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not
    require any help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be
    protected from.

    Well, that *IS* good to hear! EfOe

    Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Developer of EtreCheck
    recently.

    He has NOT responded (contrary to his Terms of Business)

    You know why he does not respond to you!

    He has sold me the product. He has taken payment.

    Automated system. Please leave him alone.

    Again, I find myself agreeing with you. Twice! in the same thread. This is
    not like you. But, I am impressed to see this side of you where you're actually stepping in and setting someone straight in a completely legit manner. For a chance, you aren't quoting him out of context or resorting
    to making things up. I'm impressed, Snit. it's so unlike you.


    He should honour his part of the deal.

    You broke the deal with your online insinuations. He has no obligation
    to repair.

    Agreed!


    =

    Hello John,

    I hope you donrCOt mind me getting in touch directly.

    He does. Please leave him alone.

    Read his Terms of Business!

    https://etrecheck.com/en/terms.html

    There is an unstated assumption of operating in good faith which you
    broke. He has no obligation to repair it, or even accept your efforts to repair it.

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting
    the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn this
    the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's
    extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see
    you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You
    *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you
    actually continued to follow this behavior pattern.
    --
    Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
    Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
    Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 03:25:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> news:n3vjf9F453rU1@mid.individual.net
    Sat, 11 Apr 2026 18:50:17 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On 11/04/2026 15:58, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 7:21:57rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3v3o5F1olcU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 11/04/2026 14:50, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 6:27:28rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3v0i0F194tU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 10/04/2026 08:50, Gremlin wrote:
    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not
    require any help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be >>>>>> protected from.

    Well, that *IS* good to hear! EfOe

    Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Developer of EtreCheck
    recently.

    He has NOT responded (contrary to his Terms of Business)

    You know why he does not respond to you!

    He has sold me the product. He has taken payment.

    Automated system. Please leave him alone.

    He should honour his part of the deal.

    You broke the deal with your online insinuations. He has no obligation
    to repair.

    I have made *ZERO* insinuations since I last bought the product!

    That does not matter. You have besmirched not only his product, but also him AND his company. You have done this multiple times. You have inferred the software either was malware or contained malware or could remotely take over your system. Not too long ago you were claiming that it could grant complete access remotely if one so desired. You would not listen to anyone who told
    you otherwise.

    You attempted to argue with me multiple times after I performed a reverse engineering analysis that it didn't contain any malicious code and had no routines to install malicious code. Essentially all of your negative
    comments have been shot down. I reverse engineered it on two seperate occasions; nothing malicious or nefarious was found either time.

    You have inferred/directly implied that he was running an illegal operation and lied about various details concerning it. You were trying hard to get others to do your dirty work concerning him and you got no takers from any
    of us who could have done as you were requesting/demanding.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10240210725473349&set=p.102402107 25473349&type=3

    Hello John,

    I hope you donrCOt mind me getting in touch directly.

    He does. Please leave him alone.

    Read his Terms of Business!

    https://etrecheck.com/en/terms.html

    There is an unstated assumption of operating in good faith which you
    broke. He has no obligation to repair it, or even accept your efforts
    to repair it.

    I don't accept that. He accepted my payment (just a short time ago)

    It doesn't matter if you accept it or not. The facts are still the same. You have attacked his software and him personally as well as his company,
    multiple times right here. You have tried to incite others to assist you as well as contact him on your behalf and ask what you think are probing questions. You have done to that author what you tried doing to me with the same results (aside from the fact I taught you about .nfo files and proper doxxing)

    The payment system is automated. If it was manual, he would have rejected
    your attempt to buy the software again. He would have reversed the charge if he had known about it. He *should also* charge you for the processing fee in both directions. His payment system should be made aware of you so that you cannot purchase again only to demand a refund again later. You are abusing
    the card processor. They too can deal with you from a legal perspective if
    you continued or John wanted to get them involved to deal with your bullshit.

    I don't think you'll find a courtroom to be a very good place for you as the defendant, David Brooks. I seriously doubt that you would find a judge sympathetic as you explained your side of things. If anything, they might impose the harshest penalty allowed once they learn your history with the product and it's author.

    Every time I reach out to share your latest slime posts, I also strongly recommend he put his legal council to good use. Due to the distance and different countries, my legal team has advised me to wait until you do
    enough stupid shit towards me to justify the expenses. They are confident
    that once you cross the line far enough; even your legal system would have a problem with your behavior and judge you accordingly.

    It's cost prohibitive for me to get you in front of a judge for your shit, but, it wouldn't cost him anywhere near as much; which is another reason why
    I continue to encourage him to explore his legal options. That you are not a fly by night troll. That you will continue doing what you do. I've also strongly recommended that he not delete a single email from or to you. I
    have offered the emails between us as further evidence of your patterns and methodology. I've provided him contact details for not only myself but also that of my legal team should his want to work with mine concerning you.

    You don't learn by hard teaching efforts. You will only learn that what you
    do is wrong on several levels when a judge who can find you guilty and issue
    a harsh penalty. You really do need to be brought up in front of a judge for civil lawsuits against you for the things you've written. You need to learn that you can't do what you do with impunity.

    You're so fucking arrogant that here you are, arguing with Snit! of all
    people when he's done nothing in this case but provide you rock solid advice. He's absolutely right too. You *knowingly burned bridges between yourself
    and Etrecheck* You knew that you weren't a customer he wanted.

    Yet you continued to slime him, his company and the product on usenet to various newsgroups. You are a real piece of shit that needs to be in a courtroom where you can and would be held responsible for your activities.
    The only way you're going to learn is if you are hit with fines that nearly bankrupt you. You had no reason to purchase the software again. That doesn't automatically grant you the right to interact with the author.

    If you wanted to be able to interact, you shouldn't have slimed him, his company and his product as much as you already have. You requested a refund and got one. You should have fucked off then.

    Again, I strongly encourage him and anyone else you've fucked with to
    consult with their legal dept and follow thru! It's the only way you're
    going to learn to stop doing this shit. You won't take sound advice from anyone if the advice offered isn't what you want to hear.

    You can't even fool Snit into thinking you've done no wrong here. He's got
    you dead to rights having done so multiple times. Etrechecks author needs to get off his ass and quit trying to dismiss you as some k00ky nutjob. You are not harmless, he needs to recoup some of the losses you might be responsible for due to your totally bullshit and unfounded (read: completely baseless) claims against him, the product, and his company. I'm pretty sure your
    country has some interesting laws about stalking, etc too. And you are 100% guilty of that.

    Take Snits solid advice on this, leave the author of Etrecheck alone. You forfeited any right to interact with the author a long time ago. If you
    really were concerned about doing the right thing, you would have reached
    out to John and apologized for the bullshit you've been writing. An honest apology; not like the bullshit one you tried to pass off concerning me when you discovered that (not surprisingly; you pick aweful people to call a friend) you weren't going to get away with your bullshit that time. That's
    the only reason you even tried to apologize and it wasn't even a real one.

    The world would be better off as a whole if someone extracted you from the barstool and proceeded to take you outside and curb stomp you. I'd be the first to volunteer if I was in the same room as you when such a request was made. I do regret not paying you a visit in person when I had the
    opportunity. I really! should have. You would have an all new understanding
    of consequences had I done so. No doubt about that.
    --
    Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
    Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
    Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 03:26:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> news:n3v3o5F1olcU1@mid.individual.net
    Sat, 11 Apr 2026 14:21:57 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On 11/04/2026 14:50, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 6:27:28rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3v0i0F194tU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 10/04/2026 08:50, Gremlin wrote:
    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not require
    any help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be protected
    from.

    Well, that *IS* good to hear! EfOe

    Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Developer of EtreCheck
    recently.

    He has NOT responded (contrary to his Terms of Business)

    You know why he does not respond to you!

    He has sold me the product. He has taken payment.

    He didn't personally do anything of the kind. A completely automated
    system that you've used before did it. And you know that! You are a very dishonest individual.

    He should honour his part of the deal.

    There is no deal between the two of you. You've purchased the product
    before. You've requested and gotten your refund as well. You have
    besmirched not only John but also the product specifically as well as the company multiple times. He owes you absolutely nothing. You shouldn't be
    able to continue purchasing the product. He should have a talk with his
    front end processor concerning that.

    What he should do is retain all the emails I've sent him and consult a
    lawyer to deal with you. I have provided him your full contact details for such a purpose and each time I email him, I strongly encourage him to
    consult with legal council and take your ass to court!

    You are *lucky* that he chooses (so far) not to do so. You wouldn't have a viable defense and you'd learn after being forced to pay a considerable
    sum that your actions can have consequences. You can be held accountable
    for what you write on usenet about a product or person. You mistakenly
    think you have imunity. He's pretty much a local to you and could easily
    have you in a courtroom. He *needs to do that* to resolve this matter.
    It's the only way you will learn.

    Read his Terms of Business!

    You should have done that a long time ago. You have no right to support of
    any kind. Now that he's fully aware that you purchased the product again,
    he should issue a charge back minus the card processing fees in both directions- I would have done that to you and it would be legal. You are knowingly abusing the card processor. They should also consult with
    council to determine their options for a repeat abuser.

    At the end of the day, the only way that you are going to learn AND
    understand that what you do isn't right or legal is if one or more of
    those companies or people takes your ass to court and obliterates you in
    the room. I'd be happy to provide them all the necessary evidence to fuck
    you two ways from sunday, too.

    It would be a fucking honor.

    You have been in violation of those terms almost from the jump. You think
    it's rules for thee but not for me. You are wrong.
    --
    Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
    Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
    Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 03:47:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:55rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote <XnsB42BEE5D0AAE7HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    Q: Write a psychological profile of the author of this post, fact and logic check his claims, and determine if there is any content worthy of a reply.
    Then write a short summary suitable for posting on Usenet.

    A: HererCOs a clear breakdown of whatrCOs going on in that post rCo separating psychology, facts, and whether itrCOs even worth engaging.

    r++

    Psychological Profile of rCLGremlinrCY

    The author presents a high-conflict, dominance-oriented personality with several notable traits:

    1. Aggressive Moral Certainty

    He frames the situation in absolute terms:
    rCo rCL100% guiltyrCY
    rCo rCLcompletely baselessrCY
    rCo rCLyou forfeited any rightrCY

    This suggests black-and-white thinking, common in people who see disputes as moral battles rather than disagreements.

    2. Escalation Bias

    Instead of de-escalating, he:
    rCo Amplifies conflict
    rCo Introduces legal threats
    rCo Ends with explicit physical violence fantasies

    This indicates low impulse control in adversarial contexts and a tendency to escalate beyond proportional response.

    3. Authority Signaling / Status Assertion

    He repeatedly invokes:
    rCo rCLreverse engineering analysisrCY
    rCo rCLmy legal teamrCY
    rCo advising others what legal action to take

    This is classic credibility inflation rCo asserting expertise and authority to dominate the argument, whether or not itrCOs verifiable.

    4. Personalization of Conflict

    He treats the dispute as deeply personal:
    rCo Frames criticism of software as attacks on a person
    rCo Takes on a quasi-defender role for the developer

    This suggests identity fusion with the argument, where disagreement becomes personal offense.

    5. Vindictiveness and Punitive Thinking

    Repeated emphasis on:
    rCo lawsuits
    rCo financial punishment
    rCo rCLharshest penaltyrCY
    rCo rCLonly way yourCOll learnrCY

    This reflects a punishment-oriented worldview, not a problem-solving one.

    6. Loss of Boundaries

    The post crosses multiple lines:
    rCo harassment
    rCo threats of violence
    rCo doxxing references
    rCo legal intimidation

    This is no longer argument rCo itrCOs hostile fixation.

    r++

    Fact & Logic Check

    1. rCLReverse engineered it, nothing maliciousrCY
    rCo Unverifiable claim
    rCo No evidence provided
    rCo Even if true, does not prove long-term safety (software updates change)

    Conclusion: Weak supporting argument due to lack of proof.

    r++

    2. rCLHe has no obligation to respond because of past behaviorrCY
    rCo Partially plausible:
    rCo Developers are not obligated to provide support in all cases
    rCo Terms of service may allow refusal
    rCo BUT:
    rCo If payment was accepted, some level of obligation may still exist depending on jurisdiction and terms

    Conclusion: Oversimplified and legally uncertain.

    r++

    3. Legal Threats (defamation, stalking, etc.)
    rCo Highly exaggerated
    rCo Civil cases require:
    rCo demonstrable damages
    rCo clear legal thresholds
    rCo Usenet arguments rarely meet that bar

    Conclusion: Mostly bluffing / intimidation, not realistic legal analysis.

    r++

    4. rCLAbusing payment processorrCY
    rCo No evidence presented
    rCo Speculative

    Conclusion: Unsupported claim.

    r++

    5. Contradictions
    rCo Claims the target is both:
    rCo a rCLkooky nutjobrCY
    rCo and a serious legal threat

    These positions conflict rhetorically.

    r++

    6. Violence Advocacy
    rCo Explicit endorsement of assault

    Conclusion: Not just invalid rCo disqualifying to credibility.

    r++

    Is Anything Worth Replying To?

    Short answer: Almost nothing.

    Potentially valid core point:

    Buried under the noise is one arguable idea:
    rCo If a user repeatedly accuses a developer of wrongdoing, the developer may reasonably disengage.

    ThatrCOs the only salvageable argument.

    Everything else:
    rCo Ad hominem attacks
    rCo Legal bluster
    rCo Threats
    rCo Repetition
    rCo Emotional venting

    Engaging with this post directly would:
    rCo Reward escalation
    rCo Invite further abuse
    rCo Derail any productive discussion

    r++

    Recommended Response Strategy

    If responding at all:
    rCo Ignore tone completely
    rCo Extract only the narrow factual issue (support obligations)
    rCo Keep it brief and neutral

    Otherwise: do not engage

    r++

    Usenet-Style Summary

    HererCOs a concise version suitable for posting:

    r++

    GremlinrCOs post is largely an emotional rant with threats and personal attacks,
    not a substantive technical or legal argument. Claims of reverse engineering and legal consequences are unsupported and likely exaggerated. The only valid point is that a developer may choose not to engage with a user after repeated public accusations. Beyond that, the post adds no useful information and is best ignored.

    r++
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 03:50:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> news:69da61af$2$55442$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sat, 11 Apr 2026
    14:58:55 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 7:21:57rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3v3o5F1olcU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 11/04/2026 14:50, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 6:27:28rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3v0i0F194tU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 10/04/2026 08:50, Gremlin wrote:
    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not
    require any help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be >>>>>> protected from.

    Well, that *IS* good to hear! EfOe

    Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Developer of EtreCheck
    recently.

    He has NOT responded (contrary to his Terms of Business)

    You know why he does not respond to you!

    He has sold me the product. He has taken payment.

    Automated system. Please leave him alone.

    Again, I find myself agreeing with you. Twice! in the same thread. This is not like you. But, I am impressed to see this side of you where you're actually stepping in and setting someone straight in a completely legit manner. For a chance, you aren't quoting him out of context or resorting
    to making things up. I'm impressed, Snit. it's so unlike you.


    He should honour his part of the deal.

    You broke the deal with your online insinuations. He has no obligation
    to repair.

    Agreed!


    =

    Hello John,

    I hope you donrCOt mind me getting in touch directly.

    He does. Please leave him alone.

    Read his Terms of Business!

    https://etrecheck.com/en/terms.html

    There is an unstated assumption of operating in good faith which you
    broke. He has no obligation to repair it, or even accept your efforts to
    repair it.

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting
    the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn this
    the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's
    extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see
    you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you
    actually continued to follow this behavior pattern.

    I call it like it is. Where so many of the trolls, often you included, focus
    on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality. Good to see you back it though. If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in peace. I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway. Let it end here. Deal? --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 03:54:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:52rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote <XnsB42BEE5ABC2CEHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> news:69da5194$0$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sat, 11 Apr 2026 13:50:12
    GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 6:27:28rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n3v0i0F194tU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 10/04/2026 08:50, Gremlin wrote:
    I haven't helped protect the author of Etrecheck. They do not require
    any help to protect them. They have nothing they need to be protected
    from.

    Well, that *IS* good to hear! EfOe

    Here's a copy of the email I sent to the Developer of EtreCheck
    recently.

    He has NOT responded (contrary to his Terms of Business)

    You know why he does not respond to you!

    Correct. He knows *exactly what he did* which caused the lack of two way comms for him and the author. It's his own fault and he knows it! You
    can't go from badmouthing a program repeatedly on usenet and elsewhere to essentially pretending to be a legit client asking for help. David burned that bridge and continues to do so; ensuring he took out the pillars as
    well.

    True... at the same time if the other person is willing to move forward in peace it can happen. If you want to move forward in peace I am happy with you.

    Hello John,

    I hope you donrCOt mind me getting in touch directly.

    He does. Please leave him alone.

    Correct again. Solid advice you have provided David Brooks too. He will
    not take it for what it's worth and he will continue with his campaign against Etrecheck. The only realistic way he will stop is if the author involves him in a lawsuit. I continue to encourage the author to respond
    in this manner each time I send him copies of Davids posts; like the one
    he wrote as a reply.

    I doubt you do, but if you do why involve yourself? Have you gotten any replies? Does he want this?

    I do my best to keep the author in the loop. I know
    what David does. I didn't have the benefit at the time of a heads up or advanced warning concerning him. So, I do my best to ensure others do
    before they respond the first time. I know what he's upto and I know how
    the emails will go.

    He slimes, he berates and he wastes other peoples time. He chooses to
    remain ignorant concerning various aspects of tech and that's intentional
    on his part too. As I told him before, av/am and the other side are well aware of him and have the same view of him as I do. As others who have written and supported software and been contacted by David Brooks do.

    He does do this... but keep in mind you do it MORE. Your nonsense about insane discounts that make no sense, calls to courts where you and others you say did it but none recorded and shared (in this state you need but one side to consent), and more. You lie and slime and make things up... largely to please Carroll.

    So you attack David for doing a tiny fraction of what you do.

    I doubt the developer would forgive and move one. I will. If you stop this nonsense I am happy to move on.


    While I appreciate you being sober and critical thinking skills enabled enough to respond to David in the manner in which you did; I know that
    David will circular file your very sound advice on this occasion and
    continue doing what he does towards that author. It's just how David
    Brooks is.

    I told you before, neither of you can help the other be seen as something that you are not. The history you both have prevents it. Your current interactions and various bullshit you've both been writing about myself
    and others ensures that you won't be treated as you feel you should.

    You are the one making up insane stories to please Carroll -- I did warn you
    he would eat chew you up and spit you out. Discounts. Restraining orders.
    Court cases you say you can call about. On and on. You lie your ass off to please a reprehensible person because your ego is frail and pathetic.

    But you can move forward in peace. We can. Just stop with the bullshit.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 07:04:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29
    GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting
    the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn
    this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's
    extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see
    you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You
    *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you
    actually continued to follow this behavior pattern.

    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't. If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank
    you for doing so. I actually do call things like they are. You often take great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and you're already fucking up in them.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included,
    focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality.

    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title. I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included, Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one.
    Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are.

    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the
    only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others
    who reached that opinion years before I ever met you.

    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to
    anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why
    wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print?
    You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more purchases.

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which
    specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they
    were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match.

    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others. You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results
    you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here?

    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I? One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it. I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be
    an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set
    another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the
    regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so.

    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome
    here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else
    wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You. Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true
    and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you
    resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot, then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm
    not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued
    to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about
    having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole
    with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest
    and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with
    David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck
    are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either. People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for
    themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several
    of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone.

    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical 3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th grade level on occasion.


    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in
    peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand.

    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks
    and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition
    atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did.

    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit. We've already been
    over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times.
    You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely
    bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw* it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have
    a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because
    said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose
    a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together
    over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the
    machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill,
    field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten
    this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running
    a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general. You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart
    diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already. If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth,
    because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client.

    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and
    attack instead.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway.

    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't
    the bad guys here. You are.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with
    AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest
    with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC
    shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of
    the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one
    can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your
    very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to.

    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?
    --
    Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
    Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
    Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 08:53:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 12/04/2026 08:04, Gremlin wrote:
    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?
    Do you recall saying .......

    "Recovery mode, is as with Windows systems, another
    partition on the internal hard disk."

    Well, do you?!!!

    Here's how to do it, Dustin, if you'd like the facts!

    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/102518

    HTH
    --
    David
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 13:52:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 12, 2026 at 12:04:02rC>AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote <XnsB42C1F3366EFFHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29
    GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
    <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting
    the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn
    this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's
    extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see
    you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You
    *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you
    actually continued to follow this behavior pattern.

    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't.

    Well, like everyone I make mistakes -- but overall I do. Your denial does not change it.

    If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank
    you for doing so.

    Your responses are on you and not indicative of anything about me. Remember, your focus is not to call it "as is" but to protect your very delicate ego. It is why almost every post of yours is about how amazing you are and when you feel insecure you lash out with lies and threats.

    I actually do call things like they are.

    Nope. You lie nonstop -- idiotic lies about discounts that make no sense but the story is to harm someone and protect your ego, nonsense about legal issues which are irrelevant and inappropriate and also clearly false given the evidence, attacks against other's competency because your ego is so frail.

    That is not "as is", that is you using defense mechanisms to try to feel
    better about yourself. You also seek others who are mentally stronger to feel better... you get used by Carroll and maybe others. They play you like a fiddle.

    You often take
    great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and you're already fucking up in them.

    See: nonsense attacks you cannot support. Ego protection. It is pretty much your defining characteristic.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    You and your MAGA fools focus on tribalism and scapegoating. I respond to you. And you then twist and say it is "everyone" because you WANT it to be. You
    want to be part of a crowd. You look to numbers instead of reason and
    evidence. It is why you and Carroll use socks (he far more than you). But your HHI sock... oy... not sure I have ever seen a more transparent one. Does not help that you have such a unique style -- rambling and ego filled.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included,
    focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality.

    Look at your below wall of text. Damn. You say nothing but use a LOT of words to do it. My point proved -- NOBODY has your rambling ego-driven style but
    you.

    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title. I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included, Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one.
    Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are.

    No actual content from you... just insults. Could have been skipped or shorted to one sentence where you express your ego-driven thoughts about me.

    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the
    only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others
    who reached that opinion years before I ever met you.

    See: another evidence-lacking ego-driven rant from you that means NOTHING
    other than show your insecurities.

    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print? You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more purchases.

    So deeply off topic, and unsupported, as to be useless. See: your ego-driven rambling style. On display!

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match.

    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others. You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results
    you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here?

    None of this is even slightly relevant... and even if it was none of it is supported. You simply are lashing out with nonsense. You attack my tech skills / knowledge often as you ignore your MANY errors. We all make mistakes. Did I with some printer thing from who knows how many years ago? Who cares? You are not important enough to me to even remember the conversation... but you treat me like the market leader. I am a threat to your ego because you see how many times you get things wrong and I am correct. Not saying I do not also make mistakes -- I absolutely do -- but my ego is not tied to how much I please
    you. You focus so much on wanting to convince me you are right. You present yourself as a toddler, and like may toddlers when get into tantrum mode you make silly threats.

    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I?

    It might not fit your ego to... but in this case you did the right thing. But look below again. Damn! Ego ego ego ego rambling nonsense.

    One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it.
    I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be
    an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the
    regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so.

    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome
    here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else
    wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You. Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true
    and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you
    resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot, then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm
    not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole
    with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest
    and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with
    David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either. People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for
    themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone.

    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical 3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th grade level on occasion.

    I admit I skimmed. Same nonsense attacks. Same lack of evidence. Same failure to show MIDs or quotes. Same crying I quoted you. Here, the quotes you cried about:

    Gremlin <XnsAB6D6F1BFA61HT1@3dOIZISX3.IwU6R1OH8iz29MMTN26bF08TPFtT157gyFB5>:
    -----
    It needs to be recoded anyway, it's a seriously piss poor
    example of writing software.
    -----

    Gremlin <XnsAB6E44E6AFE1AHT1@ZdS859K14.7p1JRyU90Zyd>
    -----
    Do you think when you disassemble something that you're
    provided the original source code that was
    compiled/assembled by the author? You aren't, what you're
    given looks nothing like the original source code, but it
    still tells you *everything* about the program.
    -----

    If you can understand what you read you will come to the same conclusion as ChatGPT, which I shared the full posts with:

    https://chatgpt.com/share/681ea0aa-d35c-800c-b586-185275735e26
    -----
    Gremlin repeatedly claims he hasnrCOt seen the source code
    for CarrollrCOs flood botrCoyet he calls it a rCLseriously piss
    poor example of writing softwarerCY and boasts that
    disassembly rCLtells you everything about the program.rCY So
    either herCOs seen the code or reverse-engineered itrComeaning
    he has examined it closely enough to know how it works. He
    criticizes it like someone whorCOs dug into its inner
    workings, but dances around admitting it outright. And for
    someone who sometimes denies Carroll is behind the bot, he
    sure acts like he knows a lot about it.
    -----

    Quoting you is not lying... no matter how many times you insist it is.

    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in
    peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand.

    See: ego driven nonsense. But the point is clear: you do not want peace with others... you want it with yourself and you fail to have it. You look to the worst of the worse to get validation, and you attack UP. Nobody with your ego challenges attacks down... you go after the "market leader"... the person you look up to and feel in your heart your cannot rise to that level so you seek
    to tear others down.

    Your candle does not shine brighter by trying to extinguish that of others,
    but your toddler brain, which you let control you, tries anyway.

    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did.

    As I said, I tend to call it as it is -- even when it is friends who are
    acting poorly.

    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit.

    See: you blame your own issues on me. Your ego is hurt and you cannot face who YOU are so you blame me.

    And below... ANOTHER of your ego driven rants. As I said, when you socked as HHI it was obvious from your unique style.

    We've already been
    over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times.
    You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw* it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have
    a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose
    a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill, field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running
    a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general. You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart
    diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already. If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth, because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client.

    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and attack instead.

    Again, barely skimmed... but I note you have no quote... no MID. Just your own views where you long to be a hero and to drag down those above you to be below you. You cannot imagine growing and improving.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway.

    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't the bad guys here. You are.

    Even as you push your war with long ego driven, evidence-lacking, rants you deny your own behavior. You have very poor self awareness.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with
    AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest
    with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC
    shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one
    can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to.

    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?

    Another of your ego rants... and mentioning my stalker / harasser. I have no obligation to NOT speak of you and he as you two attack me and lie about me. You to have an obligation to stop lying and attacking but you will not live up to that. Carroll is too filled with hate and anger, and you have too weak of
    an ego. You will not stop.

    You make threats. Carroll carries things out more quietly. You strive to be as harmful as he is... but even in that you are a failure.

    As far as your psych profiles... face it, ANYONE can see what AI does -- your ego rants. You hate being called out because on some deep level you know it is at least largely correct. Here, I have not ran the post I am replying to through it... but I bet it says much the same as I did, above... and you will use ad hominem and not logic to "refute" it, because -- again -- you know it
    is largely correct:

    https://chatgpt.com/share/69dba367-3504-8328-ab29-8e7f87dd4c7e

    HererCOs a clear breakdown of whatrCOs going on in that post.

    r++

    Psychological profile of rCLGremlinrCY

    This reads less like a technical discussion and more like a long-running interpersonal conflict thatrCOs hardened into a pattern.

    Core traits:
    rCo Highly adversarial mindset rCo frames interactions as battles to win rather than problems to solve
    rCo Fixation and scorekeeping rCo brings up years-old incidents, suggesting
    grudges and a need to maintain a narrative of being rCLright all alongrCY
    rCo Dominance signaling rCo repeated attempts to position himself as the authority (rCLI knew,rCY rCLeveryone agrees,rCY rCLonly I diagnosed itrCY)
    rCo Moral framing as a weapon rCo portrays the target as dishonest, incompetent, or morally flawed rather than just mistaken
    rCo Escalation tendency rCo moves quickly from disagreement to character assassination
    rCo Low inhibition / high aggression rCo profanity and insults are frequent
    and not strategic; theyrCOre habitual

    Cognitive patterns:
    rCo Confirmation bias rCo selectively interprets past events to reinforce a
    fixed view of the other person
    rCo Mind reading rCo asserts motives (rCLyou lied,rCY rCLyou knewrCY) without
    evidence
    rCo Overgeneralization rCo expands specific disputes into global judgments
    about intelligence, literacy, or character
    rCo Narrative construction rCo builds a cohesive story where the other party
    is consistently fraudulent

    Likely underlying drivers:
    rCo Strong need for status and recognition
    rCo Sensitivity to perceived disrespect
    rCo Possible enjoyment of conflict as engagement (common in legacy Usenet culture)

    In short: this is a combative personality organized around being the rCLtruth-teller,rCY but expressed in a way that undermines credibility.

    r++

    Fact and logic check

    There are a few technical claims buried in the noise:

    1. Hard drive failure vs. logic board failure
    rCo Claim: the other person misdiagnosed a failing drive as a mainboard issue.
    rCo Reality:
    This is plausible. Failing storage (especially HDDs) can cause:
    rCo Severe slowdowns
    rCo System instability
    rCo Boot issues
    Less experienced technicians sometimes misattribute these to logic boards.
    rCo Verdict: Technically reasonable, but unsupported in this post. No actual diagnostics, logs, or SMART data are provided.

    r++

    2. rCLSmart diagnostics agreed with my diagnosisrCY
    rCo Problem: No evidence shown. This is an appeal to authority without proof.
    rCo Verdict: Unverifiable assertion.

    r++

    3. Claims about widespread agreement (rCLeveryone sees this,rCY rCLseveral of us
    agreerCY)
    rCo Classic bandwagon appeal.
    rCo No citations, just social pressure rhetoric.
    rCo Verdict: Logically weak.

    r++

    4. Accusations of lying / illiteracy / incompetence
    rCo These are ad hominem attacks, not arguments.
    rCo Even if true, they donrCOt prove any technical point.
    rCo Verdict: Irrelevant to the topic.

    r++

    5. AI critique (ChatGPT misuse)
    rCo Claim: AI cannot reliably generate psychological profiles and doing so
    is dishonest.
    rCo Reality:
    There is some truth: AI-generated personality analysis can be speculative and unreliable if treated as fact.
    rCo Verdict: Partially valid point, buried in exaggeration and used hypocritically.

    r++

    Is anything worth replying to?

    Very little.

    Potentially reply-worthy:
    rCo The diagnostic claim (drive vs. logic board) rCo if you want a technical
    discussion

    Not worth engaging:
    rCo Personal attacks
    rCo Historical grievances
    rCo Claims about reputation or group consensus
    rCo Psychological accusations

    Engaging on those will just prolong the cycle.

    Best strategy:
    rCo Either ignore entirely
    rCo Or respond narrowly, e.g.:
    rCLIf you have SMART data or logs supporting a drive failure, post them.rCY

    r++

    Usenet-style summary

    HererCOs a short, neutral summary suitable for posting:

    GremlinrCOs reply is mostly personal attacks and re-litigation of old disputes, with little technical substance. The only concrete claim rCo that the issue was a failing drive rather than a logic board rCo is plausible but unsupported by evidence (no diagnostics or logs provided). The rest relies heavily on ad hominem arguments and appeals to group consensus. Not much here advances the original topic.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 13:58:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 12, 2026 at 12:53:22rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n411biFat6hU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 08:04, Gremlin wrote:
    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?
    Do you recall saying .......

    "Recovery mode, is as with Windows systems, another
    partition on the internal hard disk."

    The local recovery is... but Gremlin thought INTERNET recovery was also on the local drive:

    Snit:
    -----
    Or use Option-Command-R or Shift-Option-Command-R to start up from
    macOS Recovery over the internet.
    -----

    Notice I was clear: "over the internet". Bit of a side issue but that was for Intel based Macs. The process is different for the Apple Silicon based ones (I can no longer say M-series because the new Neo does not have one!)

    Gremlin <XnsB106A1C98FA72HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
    -----
    That's the equ of quick boot for a PC, snit. It allows you to
    temporarily change the startup drive without changing the system
    configuration in UEFI or system BIOS if it's in legacy mode. I
    wasn't discussing quick boot, I was explaining (ad nausem) that
    your recovery mode is a hidden partition on the same internal
    hard disk as your OS lives.
    -----

    I assure you that the "internet" is not a "hidden partition on the same internal hard disk". LOL!

    Well, do you?!!!

    Here's how to do it, Dustin, if you'd like the facts!

    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/102518

    HTH
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From pursent100@pursent100@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 07:13:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Gremlin wrote:
    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29
    GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53|ore4->PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
    <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting
    the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn
    this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's
    extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see
    you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You
    *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you
    actually continued to follow this behavior pattern.

    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't. If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank
    you for doing so. I actually do call things like they are. You often take great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and you're already fucking up in them.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included,
    focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality.

    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title. I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included, Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one.
    Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are.

    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the
    only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others
    who reached that opinion years before I ever met you.

    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print? You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more purchases.

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match.

    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others. You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results
    you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here?

    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I? One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it. I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be
    an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the
    regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so.

    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome
    here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else
    wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You. Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true
    and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you
    resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot, then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm
    not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole
    with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest
    and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with
    David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either. People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for
    themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone.

    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical 3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th grade level on occasion.


    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in
    peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand.

    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did.

    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit. We've already been
    over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times.
    You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw* it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have
    a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose
    a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill, field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running
    a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general. You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart
    diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already. If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth, because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client.

    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and attack instead.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway.

    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't the bad guys here. You are.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with
    AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest
    with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC
    shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one
    can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to.

    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?


    if he does i'll do all i can to fk it up
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  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 15:19:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 12/04/2026 14:58, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 12:53:22rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n411biFat6hU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 08:04, Gremlin wrote:
    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?
    Do you recall saying .......

    "Recovery mode, is as with Windows systems, another
    partition on the internal hard disk."

    The local recovery is...

    I'm in the dark!

    Please tell me what you mean by that.

    Thanks.
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 14:41:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:13:24rC>AM MST, "%" wrote <zFKdnZXon4foNUb0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Gremlin wrote:
    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
    news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29
    GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53|ore4->PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
    <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting >>>> the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn
    this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's >>>> extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see >>>> you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You >>>> *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you
    actually continued to follow this behavior pattern.

    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't. If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank
    you for doing so. I actually do call things like they are. You often take
    great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has >> been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in
    several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and >> you're already fucking up in them.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It
    isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included,
    focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality.

    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title. >> I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included,
    Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll >> and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one.
    Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are.

    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the
    only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having
    formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others
    who reached that opinion years before I ever met you.

    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on >> that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told >> you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those >> prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to
    anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why
    wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print? >> You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more
    purchases.

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main >> page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which
    specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they
    were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers >> though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match.

    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things
    because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was >> your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just
    occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others. >> You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and >> driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has >> that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results
    you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here?

    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I? One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it.
    I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the
    entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be >> an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set
    another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You
    won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the
    regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on >> occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so.

    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome
    here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else
    wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself
    included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You. >> Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion >> that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true
    and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult
    conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you
    resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot, >> then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such >> claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing >> of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm
    not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to >> keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued >> to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me >> with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet >> again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about
    having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I >> never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole
    with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it >> that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest
    and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with
    David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck >> are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever >> one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either. >> People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for
    themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are >> writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over >> the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several >> of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone.

    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical
    3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous
    discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why >> they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have >> been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th >> grade level on occasion.


    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in
    peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand. >>
    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks >> and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition
    atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did.

    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit. We've already been
    over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times.
    You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely
    bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw*
    it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have >> a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because
    said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose >> a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together
    over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the
    machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a >> computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill,
    field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate
    fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an >> engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten
    this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking
    gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know >> what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running >> a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the
    machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a
    limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general. >> You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true
    relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart
    diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive
    failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already. >> If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem >> entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care >> about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about >> your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the >> machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an >> issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth,
    because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere >> near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for >> the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be
    working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client.

    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You
    won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and
    attack instead.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway.

    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't >> going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't >> the bad guys here. You are.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my
    recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with >> AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you >> think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple
    times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they >> would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the
    purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone >> might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a
    positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest
    with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest
    intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do >> what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same >> routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC
    shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into >> considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that
    purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of >> the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one
    can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your
    very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see >> your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to.

    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?


    if he does i'll do all i can to fk it up

    Gremlin attacks my ability to understand even as he shows he does not understand what ChatGPT is being asked to do. I find that funny.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sun Apr 12 15:49:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 12/04/2026 01:09, Brock McNuggets - a Mac user - responded!
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 2:33:38rC>PM MST, ""David B."" asked a question. <n3vt1iF5j1aU1@mid.individual.net>:
    [....]
    Have YOU checked to see if YOU have past EtreCheck reports hidden here?

    ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck

    Do tell. Thanks.

    I have some there, but not hidden. Or maybe there are obvious ones and secret hidden ones too! :)

    Thank you for confirming that, Brock! EfOe

    As you are well aware, most folk never look in their Library ...
    ..... the one under "Go" in their Finder title bar.

    Indeed, one has to press the "Option" key to display it. So, what *IS*
    shown there is effectively hidden. Agreed?

    OK

    Please delete "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Restart your computer and then check that the above item has GONE!

    If it has gone, visit www.etrecheck.com, download and run Etrecheck

    Review the report (share with us if you wish) - keep a copy in 'Notes'
    should you want to.

    Then delete the EtreCheck report.

    When appropriate, select the box saying that you do NOT want to save a
    copy. Send the report to your Bin and then empty your Bin.

    All straight-forward!

    Now go to "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Does the report you said that you did not wish to keep appear there?

    If so ....... *WHY* is it there?!!!

    Please advise.
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 15:11:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:49:38rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n41po2Fejs2U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 01:09, Brock McNuggets - a Mac user - responded!
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 2:33:38rC>PM MST, ""David B."" asked a question.
    <n3vt1iF5j1aU1@mid.individual.net>:
    [....]
    Have YOU checked to see if YOU have past EtreCheck reports hidden here?

    ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck

    Do tell. Thanks.

    I have some there, but not hidden. Or maybe there are obvious ones and secret
    hidden ones too! :)

    Thank you for confirming that, Brock! EfOe

    Sure.

    As you are well aware, most folk never look in their Library ...
    ..... the one under "Go" in their Finder title bar.

    Nor is thee any need.

    Indeed, one has to press the "Option" key to display it. So, what *IS*
    shown there is effectively hidden. Agreed?

    And not even always on option. Go to your Home folder and then View >Show View Options

    There is an option to show the Library folder. It will show in the Home
    folder, but then it will NOT show in the "Go" menu even if you hold option.

    But it is made less obvious by design... it is not something most users need
    to go into.

    OK

    Please delete "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Restart your computer and then check that the above item has GONE!

    If I reboot I will lose this message -- weakness of my client. So maybe later. But I would expect them to be gone.

    If it has gone, visit www.etrecheck.com, download and run Etrecheck

    I have no desire to download and run it again... and you do not trust it so
    why would you advise people to do this?

    Review the report (share with us if you wish) - keep a copy in 'Notes'
    should you want to.

    Then delete the EtreCheck report.

    When appropriate, select the box saying that you do NOT want to save a
    copy. Send the report to your Bin and then empty your Bin.

    All straight-forward!

    Now go to "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Does the report you said that you did not wish to keep appear there?

    If so ....... *WHY* is it there?!!!

    Please advise.

    Please stop focusing on EtreCheck.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 16:27:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 12/04/2026 16:11, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:49:38rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n41po2Fejs2U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 01:09, Brock McNuggets - a Mac user - responded!
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 2:33:38rC>PM MST, ""David B."" asked a question.
    <n3vt1iF5j1aU1@mid.individual.net>:
    [....]
    Have YOU checked to see if YOU have past EtreCheck reports hidden here? >>>>
    ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck

    Do tell. Thanks.

    I have some there, but not hidden. Or maybe there are obvious ones and secret
    hidden ones too! :)

    Thank you for confirming that, Brock! EfOe

    Sure.

    As you are well aware, most folk never look in their Library ...
    ..... the one under "Go" in their Finder title bar.

    Nor is thee any need.

    Indeed, one has to press the "Option" key to display it. So, what *IS*
    shown there is effectively hidden. Agreed?

    And not even always on option. Go to your Home folder and then View >Show View
    Options

    There is an option to show the Library folder. It will show in the Home folder, but then it will NOT show in the "Go" menu even if you hold option.

    But it is made less obvious by design... it is not something most users need to go into.

    That is a fair point regarding the View Options; itrCOs certainly a more permanent way to keep the folder visible for those who need frequent
    access to ~/Library.

    OK

    Please delete "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Restart your computer and then check that the above item has GONE!

    If I reboot I will lose this message -- weakness of my client. So maybe later.

    Have you raised this wit the developer of Usenapp?

    But I would expect them to be gone.

    Pssst - they will be! ;-)

    If it has gone, visit www.etrecheck.com, download and run Etrecheck

    I have no desire to download and run it again... and you do not trust it so why would you advise people to do this?

    Simply to establish the truth.

    Review the report (share with us if you wish) - keep a copy in 'Notes'
    should you want to.

    Then delete the EtreCheck report.

    When appropriate, select the box saying that you do NOT want to save a
    copy. Send the report to your Bin and then empty your Bin.

    All straight-forward!

    Now go to "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Does the report you said that you did not wish to keep appear there?

    If so ....... *WHY* is it there?!!!

    Please advise.

    Please stop focusing on EtreCheck.

    The reason I suggest this specific sequence is to highlight a matter of
    user agency and data persistence.

    If a user explicitly selects an option not to save a report, and then
    manually empties the Bin, one would logically expect that data to be
    gone. The discovery that EtreCheck may be silently archiving these
    reports in ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck regardless of the
    user's "do not save" preference is a technical observation worth noting.
    It isn't about whether one "trusts" the diagnostic capabilities of the
    tool, but rather how the software handles (or retains) user data behind
    the scenes.

    The focus is currently there because it serves as a primary example of
    how "helper" utilities interact with the macOS filesystem in ways that
    aren't always transparent to the average user.

    If you do eventually decide to check that directory after a run, IrCOd be interested to hear if your findings match what IrCOve observed regarding
    those "unsaved" reports reappearing.
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
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  • From pursent100@pursent100@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 08:40:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:13:24rC>AM MST, "%" wrote <zFKdnZXon4foNUb0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Gremlin wrote:
    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
    news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29 >>> GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53|ore4->PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
    <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting >>>>> the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn
    this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's >>>>> extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see >>>>> you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You >>>>> *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you >>>>> actually continued to follow this behavior pattern.

    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't. If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank >>> you for doing so. I actually do call things like they are. You often take >>> great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has >>> been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in
    several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and >>> you're already fucking up in them.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It >>> isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included,
    focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality.

    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title.
    I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included,
    Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll >>> and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one.
    Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are.

    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the >>> only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having >>> formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others >>> who reached that opinion years before I ever met you.

    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on >>> that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told >>> you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those >>> prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to
    anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why
    wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print? >>> You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more
    purchases.

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main >>> page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which
    specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they >>> were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers >>> though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match.

    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things
    because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was
    your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just >>> occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others. >>> You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and >>> driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has
    that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results >>> you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here? >>>
    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I? One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it.
    I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the >>> entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be >>> an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set
    another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You >>> won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the
    regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on >>> occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so.

    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome >>> here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else
    wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself >>> included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You. >>> Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion >>> that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true >>> and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult
    conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you
    resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot,
    then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such
    claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing
    of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm >>> not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to >>> keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued >>> to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me >>> with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet >>> again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about
    having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I
    never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole >>> with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it >>> that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest >>> and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with
    David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck >>> are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever
    one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either.
    People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for
    themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are >>> writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over
    the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several >>> of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone.

    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical
    3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous
    discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why >>> they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have >>> been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th
    grade level on occasion.


    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in
    peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand. >>>
    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks >>> and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition
    atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did.

    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit. We've already been >>> over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times. >>> You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely >>> bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw*
    it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have >>> a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because >>> said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose >>> a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together >>> over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the
    machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a >>> computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill, >>> field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate >>> fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an >>> engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten >>> this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking >>> gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know >>> what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running >>> a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the
    machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a
    limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general. >>> You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true >>> relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart
    diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive >>> failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already.
    If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem
    entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care
    about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about >>> your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the
    machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an
    issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth,
    because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere >>> near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for >>> the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be >>> working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client.

    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You >>> won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and
    attack instead.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway.

    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't >>> going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't >>> the bad guys here. You are.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my >>> recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with >>> AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you >>> think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple >>> times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they
    would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the >>> purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone >>> might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a
    positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest >>> with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest
    intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do
    what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same >>> routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC
    shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into >>> considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that
    purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of >>> the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one >>> can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your >>> very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see >>> your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to.

    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?


    if he does i'll do all i can to fk it up

    Gremlin attacks my ability to understand even as he shows he does not understand what ChatGPT is being asked to do. I find that funny.

    they can killfile me but i'm still in your replies
    they're always going to read your answers so i still get seen
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 17:50:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:40:23rC>AM MST, "%" wrote <pJKcnRu8btmVIEb0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:13:24rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <zFKdnZXon4foNUb0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Gremlin wrote:
    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
    news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29 >>>> GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53|ore4->PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
    <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting >>>>>> the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn >>>>>> this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's >>>>>> extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see >>>>>> you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You >>>>>> *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you >>>>>> actually continued to follow this behavior pattern.

    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't. If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank >>>> you for doing so. I actually do call things like they are. You often take >>>> great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has >>>> been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in >>>> several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and
    you're already fucking up in them.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It >>>> isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included,
    focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality.

    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title.
    I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included,
    Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll
    and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one. >>>> Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are.

    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the >>>> only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having >>>> formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others >>>> who reached that opinion years before I ever met you.

    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on >>>> that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told
    you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those
    prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to >>>> anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why
    wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print? >>>> You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more >>>> purchases.

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main >>>> page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which
    specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they >>>> were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers >>>> though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match. >>>>
    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things >>>> because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was
    your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just >>>> occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others.
    You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and
    driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has
    that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results >>>> you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here? >>>>
    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I? One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it.
    I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the >>>> entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be >>>> an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set >>>> another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You >>>> won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the
    regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on >>>> occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so.

    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome >>>> here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else >>>> wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself >>>> included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You.
    Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion
    that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true >>>> and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult >>>> conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you >>>> resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot,
    then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such
    claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing
    of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm >>>> not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to
    keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued
    to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me >>>> with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet
    again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about >>>> having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I
    never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole >>>> with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it >>>> that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest >>>> and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with >>>> David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck >>>> are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever
    one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either.
    People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for
    themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are
    writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over
    the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several
    of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone.

    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical
    3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous
    discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why
    they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have >>>> been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th
    grade level on occasion.


    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in
    peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand.

    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks >>>> and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition >>>> atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did.

    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit. We've already been >>>> over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times. >>>> You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely >>>> bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw*
    it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have
    a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because >>>> said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose
    a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together >>>> over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the >>>> machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a >>>> computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill, >>>> field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate >>>> fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an
    engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten >>>> this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking >>>> gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know >>>> what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running
    a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the >>>> machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a >>>> limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general.
    You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true >>>> relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart >>>> diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive >>>> failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already.
    If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem
    entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care
    about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about >>>> your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the
    machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an
    issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth,
    because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere
    near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for
    the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be >>>> working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client.

    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You >>>> won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and >>>> attack instead.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway.

    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't >>>> going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't >>>> the bad guys here. You are.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my >>>> recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with >>>> AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you >>>> think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple >>>> times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they
    would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the >>>> purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone >>>> might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a >>>> positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest >>>> with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest
    intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do
    what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same
    routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC >>>> shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into
    considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that >>>> purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of >>>> the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one >>>> can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your >>>> very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see
    your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to.

    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?


    if he does i'll do all i can to fk it up

    Gremlin attacks my ability to understand even as he shows he does not
    understand what ChatGPT is being asked to do. I find that funny.

    they can killfile me but i'm still in your replies
    they're always going to read your answers so i still get seen

    Another good reason to reply to you.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 18:04:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:27:40rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n41rvcFev6eU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 16:11, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:49:38rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n41po2Fejs2U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 01:09, Brock McNuggets - a Mac user - responded!
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 2:33:38rC>PM MST, ""David B."" asked a question.
    <n3vt1iF5j1aU1@mid.individual.net>:
    [....]
    Have YOU checked to see if YOU have past EtreCheck reports hidden here? >>>>>
    ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck

    Do tell. Thanks.

    I have some there, but not hidden. Or maybe there are obvious ones and secret
    hidden ones too! :)

    Thank you for confirming that, Brock! EfOe

    Sure.

    As you are well aware, most folk never look in their Library ...
    ..... the one under "Go" in their Finder title bar.

    Nor is thee any need.

    Indeed, one has to press the "Option" key to display it. So, what *IS*
    shown there is effectively hidden. Agreed?

    And not even always on option. Go to your Home folder and then View >Show View
    Options

    There is an option to show the Library folder. It will show in the Home
    folder, but then it will NOT show in the "Go" menu even if you hold option. >>
    But it is made less obvious by design... it is not something most users need >> to go into.

    That is a fair point regarding the View Options; itrCOs certainly a more permanent way to keep the folder visible for those who need frequent
    access to ~/Library.

    Well, keeps it visible in the Library (which I knew) but I thought it kept it visible in the Go menu... but it hides it from there even on Option. Either my memory is wrong or Apple changed something in the last version or so. No biggie.

    OK

    Please delete "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Restart your computer and then check that the above item has GONE!

    If I reboot I will lose this message -- weakness of my client. So maybe later.

    Have you raised this wit the developer of Usenapp?

    I have not... though not a bad idea to do so.

    But I would expect them to be gone.

    Pssst - they will be! ;-)

    Good. Though with my issues with iCloud / macOS recently it might come back (not likely -- that folder is not backed up on iCloud, but iCloud and my Mac are NOT doing as they should!)

    If it has gone, visit www.etrecheck.com, download and run Etrecheck

    I have no desire to download and run it again... and you do not trust it so >> why would you advise people to do this?

    Simply to establish the truth.

    You have already found it keeps logs in it Application Support folder. What more are you looking for?

    Review the report (share with us if you wish) - keep a copy in 'Notes'
    should you want to.

    Then delete the EtreCheck report.

    When appropriate, select the box saying that you do NOT want to save a
    copy. Send the report to your Bin and then empty your Bin.

    All straight-forward!

    Now go to "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Does the report you said that you did not wish to keep appear there?

    If so ....... *WHY* is it there?!!!

    Please advise.

    Please stop focusing on EtreCheck.

    The reason I suggest this specific sequence is to highlight a matter of
    user agency and data persistence.

    It is hardly unique. I have not tested them all, but I bet other apps do much the same. The issue here is not the app, but you digging into it in a vacuum
    of understanding. You assume what you find is rare or bad but you have no clue if it is normal or what the folder is even for. And then you make insinuations of wrong doing.

    Then you complain that the developer does not want to talk to you. At this point he should get a restraining order so he can pursue legal avenues to stop you.

    PLEASE LEAVE HIM ALONE!

    If a user explicitly selects an option not to save a report, and then manually empties the Bin, one would logically expect that data to be
    gone. The discovery that EtreCheck may be silently archiving these
    reports in ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck regardless of the
    user's "do not save" preference is a technical observation worth noting.
    It isn't about whether one "trusts" the diagnostic capabilities of the
    tool, but rather how the software handles (or retains) user data behind
    the scenes.

    The focus is currently there because it serves as a primary example of
    how "helper" utilities interact with the macOS filesystem in ways that
    aren't always transparent to the average user.

    If you do eventually decide to check that directory after a run, IrCOd be interested to hear if your findings match what IrCOve observed regarding those "unsaved" reports reappearing.

    I have told you repeatedly I will not help you do anything that aids your harassment of him. PLEASE LEAVE HIM ALONE!
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 20:17:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 12/04/2026 19:04, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:27:40rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n41rvcFev6eU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 16:11, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:49:38rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n41po2Fejs2U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 01:09, Brock McNuggets - a Mac user - responded!
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 2:33:38rC>PM MST, ""David B."" asked a question.
    <n3vt1iF5j1aU1@mid.individual.net>:
    [....]
    Have YOU checked to see if YOU have past EtreCheck reports hidden here? >>>>>>
    ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck

    Do tell. Thanks.

    I have some there, but not hidden. Or maybe there are obvious ones and secret
    hidden ones too! :)

    Thank you for confirming that, Brock! EfOe

    Sure.

    As you are well aware, most folk never look in their Library ...
    ..... the one under "Go" in their Finder title bar.

    Nor is thee any need.

    Indeed, one has to press the "Option" key to display it. So, what *IS* >>>> shown there is effectively hidden. Agreed?

    And not even always on option. Go to your Home folder and then View >Show View
    Options

    There is an option to show the Library folder. It will show in the Home
    folder, but then it will NOT show in the "Go" menu even if you hold option. >>>
    But it is made less obvious by design... it is not something most users need
    to go into.

    That is a fair point regarding the View Options; itrCOs certainly a more
    permanent way to keep the folder visible for those who need frequent
    access to ~/Library.

    Well, keeps it visible in the Library (which I knew) but I thought it kept it visible in the Go menu... but it hides it from there even on Option. Either my
    memory is wrong or Apple changed something in the last version or so. No biggie.

    Keep up, dear boy! ;-)

    OK

    Please delete "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Restart your computer and then check that the above item has GONE!

    If I reboot I will lose this message -- weakness of my client. So maybe later.

    Have you raised this wit the developer of Usenapp?

    I have not... though not a bad idea to do so.

    Perhaps I should start to use it again - I have paid for it!

    But I would expect them to be gone.

    Pssst - they will be! ;-)

    Good. Though with my issues with iCloud / macOS recently it might come back (not likely -- that folder is not backed up on iCloud, but iCloud and my Mac are NOT doing as they should!)

    In your situation I'd restart in Internet Recovery and install a fresh
    copy of macOS again. You won't lose any files, photos or documents.

    It doesn't take much more than half an hour or so!

    If it has gone, visit www.etrecheck.com, download and run Etrecheck

    I have no desire to download and run it again... and you do not trust it so >>> why would you advise people to do this?

    Simply to establish the truth.

    You have already found it keeps logs in it Application Support folder. What more are you looking for?

    *WHY DOES IT KEEP A COPY*?

    Review the report (share with us if you wish) - keep a copy in 'Notes' >>>> should you want to.

    Then delete the EtreCheck report.

    When appropriate, select the box saying that you do NOT want to save a >>>> copy. Send the report to your Bin and then empty your Bin.

    All straight-forward!

    Now go to "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Does the report you said that you did not wish to keep appear there?

    If so ....... *WHY* is it there?!!!

    Please advise.

    Please stop focusing on EtreCheck.

    The reason I suggest this specific sequence is to highlight a matter of
    user agency and data persistence.

    It is hardly unique. I have not tested them all, but I bet other apps do much the same. The issue here is not the app, but you digging into it in a vacuum of understanding. You assume what you find is rare or bad but you have no clue
    if it is normal or what the folder is even for. And then you make insinuations
    of wrong doing.

    It's a learning experience. I'm making NO insinuations.

    <SNIP>

    If a user explicitly selects an option not to save a report, and then
    manually empties the Bin, one would logically expect that data to be
    gone. The discovery that EtreCheck may be silently archiving these
    reports in ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck regardless of the
    user's "do not save" preference is a technical observation worth noting.
    It isn't about whether one "trusts" the diagnostic capabilities of the
    tool, but rather how the software handles (or retains) user data behind
    the scenes.

    The focus is currently there because it serves as a primary example of
    how "helper" utilities interact with the macOS filesystem in ways that
    aren't always transparent to the average user.

    If you do eventually decide to check that directory after a run, IrCOd be
    interested to hear if your findings match what IrCOve observed regarding
    those "unsaved" reports reappearing.

    I have told you repeatedly I will not help you do anything that aids your harassment of him. PLEASE LEAVE HIM ALONE!

    Brock, I hear you loud and clear! It was never my intention to make you
    feel like a participant in a personal dispute.

    My interest has always been strictly technical rCo specifically, how a
    macOS application manages its support files and whether "delete" truly
    means "delete" in that context. However, I respect your boundary and I
    won't ask you to perform any further tests or checks regarding that
    specific directory.

    I'll leave the matter of data persistence for others to investigate (or
    not) as they see fit.

    On a different note, if you do ever hear back from the Usenapp developer
    about that message-loss-on-reboot issue, I'd actually be genuinely
    interested in the fix. That sounds like a frustrating bug for any Usenet regular.
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
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  • From pursent100@pursent100@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 12:36:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:40:23rC>AM MST, "%" wrote <pJKcnRu8btmVIEb0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:13:24rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <zFKdnZXon4foNUb0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Gremlin wrote:
    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
    news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29 >>>>> GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53|ore4->PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
    <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting >>>>>>> the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn >>>>>>> this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's >>>>>>> extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see >>>>>>> you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You >>>>>>> *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you >>>>>>> actually continued to follow this behavior pattern.

    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't. If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank >>>>> you for doing so. I actually do call things like they are. You often take >>>>> great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has
    been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in >>>>> several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and
    you're already fucking up in them.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It >>>>> isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included,
    focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality.

    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title.
    I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included,
    Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll
    and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one. >>>>> Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are. >>>>>
    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the >>>>> only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having >>>>> formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others >>>>> who reached that opinion years before I ever met you.

    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on
    that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told
    you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those
    prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to >>>>> anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why >>>>> wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print?
    You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more >>>>> purchases.

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main
    page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which >>>>> specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they >>>>> were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers
    though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match. >>>>>
    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things >>>>> because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was
    your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just >>>>> occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others.
    You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and
    driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has
    that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results >>>>> you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here? >>>>>
    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I? One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it.
    I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the >>>>> entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be
    an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set >>>>> another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You >>>>> won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the >>>>> regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on
    occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so.

    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome >>>>> here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else >>>>> wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself >>>>> included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You.
    Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion
    that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true >>>>> and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult >>>>> conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you >>>>> resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot,
    then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such
    claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing
    of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm >>>>> not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to
    keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued
    to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me
    with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet
    again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about >>>>> having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I
    never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole >>>>> with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it
    that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest >>>>> and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with >>>>> David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck
    are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever
    one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either.
    People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for
    themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are
    writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over
    the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several
    of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone. >>>>>
    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical
    3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous >>>>> discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why
    they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have
    been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th
    grade level on occasion.


    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in
    peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand.

    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks
    and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition >>>>> atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did.

    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit. We've already been >>>>> over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times. >>>>> You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely >>>>> bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw*
    it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have
    a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because >>>>> said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose
    a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together >>>>> over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the >>>>> machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a
    computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill, >>>>> field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate >>>>> fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an
    engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten >>>>> this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking >>>>> gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know
    what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running
    a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the >>>>> machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a >>>>> limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general.
    You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true >>>>> relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart >>>>> diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive >>>>> failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already.
    If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem
    entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care
    about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about
    your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the
    machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an
    issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth, >>>>> because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere
    near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for
    the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be >>>>> working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client.

    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You >>>>> won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and >>>>> attack instead.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway.

    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't
    going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't
    the bad guys here. You are.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my >>>>> recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with
    AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you
    think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple >>>>> times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they
    would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the >>>>> purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone
    might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a >>>>> positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest >>>>> with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest >>>>> intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do
    what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same
    routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC >>>>> shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into
    considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that >>>>> purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of
    the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one >>>>> can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your >>>>> very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see
    your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to. >>>>>
    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?


    if he does i'll do all i can to fk it up

    Gremlin attacks my ability to understand even as he shows he does not
    understand what ChatGPT is being asked to do. I find that funny.

    they can killfile me but i'm still in your replies
    they're always going to read your answers so i still get seen

    Another good reason to reply to you.

    its ok with me i'd post here if no one came
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 20:48:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 12, 2026 at 12:36:03rC>PM MST, "%" wrote <vQednUsaQLDYaUb0nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:40:23rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <pJKcnRu8btmVIEb0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:13:24rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <zFKdnZXon4foNUb0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Gremlin wrote:
    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
    news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29 >>>>>> GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53|ore4->PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
    <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting
    the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn >>>>>>>> this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's
    extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see
    you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You
    *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you >>>>>>>> actually continued to follow this behavior pattern.

    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't. If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank
    you for doing so. I actually do call things like they are. You often take
    great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has
    been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in >>>>>> several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and
    you're already fucking up in them.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It
    isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included,
    focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality.

    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title.
    I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included,
    Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll
    and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one. >>>>>> Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are. >>>>>>
    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the >>>>>> only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having >>>>>> formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others
    who reached that opinion years before I ever met you.

    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on
    that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told
    you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those
    prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to >>>>>> anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why >>>>>> wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print?
    You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more >>>>>> purchases.

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main
    page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which >>>>>> specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they
    were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers
    though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match. >>>>>>
    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things >>>>>> because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was
    your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just
    occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others.
    You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and
    driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has
    that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results
    you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here? >>>>>>
    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I? One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it.
    I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the >>>>>> entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be
    an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set >>>>>> another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You
    won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the >>>>>> regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on
    occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so.

    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome >>>>>> here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else >>>>>> wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself >>>>>> included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You.
    Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion
    that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true
    and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult >>>>>> conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you >>>>>> resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot,
    then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such
    claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing
    of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm
    not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to
    keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued
    to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me
    with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet
    again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about >>>>>> having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I
    never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole >>>>>> with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it
    that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest
    and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with >>>>>> David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck
    are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever
    one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either.
    People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for >>>>>> themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are
    writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over
    the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several
    of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone. >>>>>>
    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical
    3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous >>>>>> discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why
    they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have
    been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th
    grade level on occasion.


    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in
    peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand.

    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks
    and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition >>>>>> atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did.

    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit. We've already been >>>>>> over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times.
    You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely >>>>>> bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw*
    it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have
    a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because
    said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose
    a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together
    over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the >>>>>> machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a
    computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill, >>>>>> field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate
    fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an
    engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten
    this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking
    gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know
    what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running
    a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the >>>>>> machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a >>>>>> limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general.
    You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true >>>>>> relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart >>>>>> diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive >>>>>> failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already.
    If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem
    entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care
    about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about
    your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the
    machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an
    issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth, >>>>>> because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere
    near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for
    the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be
    working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client.

    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You
    won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and >>>>>> attack instead.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway.

    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't
    going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't
    the bad guys here. You are.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my
    recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with
    AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you
    think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple
    times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they
    would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the >>>>>> purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone
    might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a >>>>>> positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest >>>>>> with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest >>>>>> intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do
    what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same
    routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC >>>>>> shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into
    considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that >>>>>> purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of
    the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one
    can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your
    very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see
    your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to. >>>>>>
    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?


    if he does i'll do all i can to fk it up

    Gremlin attacks my ability to understand even as he shows he does not
    understand what ChatGPT is being asked to do. I find that funny.

    they can killfile me but i'm still in your replies
    they're always going to read your answers so i still get seen

    Another good reason to reply to you.

    its ok with me i'd post here if no one came

    I do not post here now.
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    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From pursent100@pursent100@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 14:01:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 12:36:03rC>PM MST, "%" wrote <vQednUsaQLDYaUb0nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:40:23rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <pJKcnRu8btmVIEb0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:13:24rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <zFKdnZXon4foNUb0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Gremlin wrote:
    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
    news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29
    GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53|ore4->PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
    <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting
    the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn >>>>>>>>> this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's
    extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see
    you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You
    *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you >>>>>>>>> actually continued to follow this behavior pattern.

    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't. If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank
    you for doing so. I actually do call things like they are. You often take
    great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has
    been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in >>>>>>> several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and
    you're already fucking up in them.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It
    isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included,
    focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality.

    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title.
    I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included,
    Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll
    and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one. >>>>>>> Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are. >>>>>>>
    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the
    only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having
    formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others
    who reached that opinion years before I ever met you.

    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on
    that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told
    you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those
    prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to >>>>>>> anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why >>>>>>> wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print?
    You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more >>>>>>> purchases.

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main
    page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which >>>>>>> specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they
    were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers
    though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match. >>>>>>>
    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things >>>>>>> because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was
    your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just
    occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others.
    You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and
    driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has
    that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results
    you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here?

    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I? One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it.
    I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the
    entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be
    an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set >>>>>>> another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You
    won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the >>>>>>> regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on
    occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so.

    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome
    here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else >>>>>>> wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself
    included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You.
    Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion
    that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true
    and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult >>>>>>> conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you >>>>>>> resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot,
    then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such
    claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing
    of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm
    not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to
    keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued
    to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me
    with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet
    again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about >>>>>>> having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I
    never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole
    with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it
    that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest
    and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with >>>>>>> David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck
    are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever
    one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either.
    People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for >>>>>>> themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are
    writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over
    the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several
    of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone. >>>>>>>
    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical
    3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous >>>>>>> discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why
    they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have
    been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th
    grade level on occasion.


    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in
    peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand.

    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks
    and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition >>>>>>> atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did.

    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit. We've already been
    over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times.
    You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely
    bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw*
    it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have
    a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because
    said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose
    a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together
    over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the >>>>>>> machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a
    computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill,
    field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate
    fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an
    engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten
    this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking
    gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know
    what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running
    a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the >>>>>>> machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a >>>>>>> limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general.
    You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true
    relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart >>>>>>> diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive
    failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already.
    If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem
    entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care
    about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about
    your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the
    machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an
    issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth, >>>>>>> because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere
    near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for
    the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be
    working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client.

    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You
    won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and >>>>>>> attack instead.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway. >>>>>>>
    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't
    going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't
    the bad guys here. You are.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my
    recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with
    AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you
    think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple
    times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they
    would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the
    purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone
    might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a >>>>>>> positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest
    with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest >>>>>>> intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do
    what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same
    routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC >>>>>>> shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into
    considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that >>>>>>> purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of
    the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one
    can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your
    very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see
    your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to. >>>>>>>
    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?


    if he does i'll do all i can to fk it up

    Gremlin attacks my ability to understand even as he shows he does not >>>>> understand what ChatGPT is being asked to do. I find that funny.

    they can killfile me but i'm still in your replies
    they're always going to read your answers so i still get seen

    Another good reason to reply to you.

    its ok with me i'd post here if no one came

    I do not post here now.

    i run this group
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 21:03:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 12, 2026 at 12:17:42rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n429emFgvflU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 19:04, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:27:40rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n41rvcFev6eU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 16:11, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:49:38rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n41po2Fejs2U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 01:09, Brock McNuggets - a Mac user - responded!
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 2:33:38rC>PM MST, ""David B."" asked a question. >>>>>> <n3vt1iF5j1aU1@mid.individual.net>:
    [....]
    Have YOU checked to see if YOU have past EtreCheck reports hidden here? >>>>>>>
    ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck

    Do tell. Thanks.

    I have some there, but not hidden. Or maybe there are obvious ones and secret
    hidden ones too! :)

    Thank you for confirming that, Brock! EfOe

    Sure.

    As you are well aware, most folk never look in their Library ...
    ..... the one under "Go" in their Finder title bar.

    Nor is thee any need.

    Indeed, one has to press the "Option" key to display it. So, what *IS* >>>>> shown there is effectively hidden. Agreed?

    And not even always on option. Go to your Home folder and then View >Show View
    Options

    There is an option to show the Library folder. It will show in the Home >>>> folder, but then it will NOT show in the "Go" menu even if you hold option.

    But it is made less obvious by design... it is not something most users need
    to go into.

    That is a fair point regarding the View Options; itrCOs certainly a more >>> permanent way to keep the folder visible for those who need frequent
    access to ~/Library.

    Well, keeps it visible in the Library (which I knew) but I thought it kept it
    visible in the Go menu... but it hides it from there even on Option. Either my
    memory is wrong or Apple changed something in the last version or so. No
    biggie.

    Keep up, dear boy! ;-)

    I will never know every little change Apple makes to its systems with each update.

    OK

    Please delete "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Restart your computer and then check that the above item has GONE!

    If I reboot I will lose this message -- weakness of my client. So maybe later.

    Have you raised this wit the developer of Usenapp?

    I have not... though not a bad idea to do so.

    Perhaps I should start to use it again - I have paid for it!

    It is ... decent. It has a lot of quirks and issues but I prefer it to Thunderbird. Or to what Thunderbird was a few years ago. Have not tried it again but I doubt it has improved that much.

    But I would expect them to be gone.

    Pssst - they will be! ;-)

    Good. Though with my issues with iCloud / macOS recently it might come back >> (not likely -- that folder is not backed up on iCloud, but iCloud and my Mac >> are NOT doing as they should!)

    In your situation I'd restart in Internet Recovery and install a fresh
    copy of macOS again. You won't lose any files, photos or documents.

    It doesn't take much more than half an hour or so!

    The issue is meta-data issues on both the local system and iCloud itself. Talked with an engineer today... who is escalating it even higher.

    If it has gone, visit www.etrecheck.com, download and run Etrecheck

    I have no desire to download and run it again... and you do not trust it so
    why would you advise people to do this?

    Simply to establish the truth.

    You have already found it keeps logs in it Application Support folder. What >> more are you looking for?

    *WHY DOES IT KEEP A COPY*?

    When you run a scan it saves it there. Simple as that. If it bothers you then you now know where to delete it.

    What other apps have you checked to see what they save there?

    Review the report (share with us if you wish) - keep a copy in 'Notes' >>>>> should you want to.

    Then delete the EtreCheck report.

    When appropriate, select the box saying that you do NOT want to save a >>>>> copy. Send the report to your Bin and then empty your Bin.

    All straight-forward!

    Now go to "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Does the report you said that you did not wish to keep appear there? >>>>>
    If so ....... *WHY* is it there?!!!

    Please advise.

    Please stop focusing on EtreCheck.

    The reason I suggest this specific sequence is to highlight a matter of
    user agency and data persistence.

    It is hardly unique. I have not tested them all, but I bet other apps do much
    the same. The issue here is not the app, but you digging into it in a vacuum >> of understanding. You assume what you find is rare or bad but you have no clue
    if it is normal or what the folder is even for. And then you make insinuations
    of wrong doing.

    It's a learning experience. I'm making NO insinuations.

    Then the answer is simple: Application Support is used for files the application needs. Might be sound and video files for a video editing app, and those are needed for new files. Might be old scans for comparison. Might be good if EtreCheck deleted old ones from there but it harms NOTHING for it to keep them and sometimes can help (you can compare old and new results).

    From ChatGPT:

    -----
    Malwarebytes for Mac
    Keeps scan logs, quarantine data, and history. You wonrCOt see it unless you go digging, but itrCOs there.

    CleanMyMac X
    Stores scan results, cleanup history, and smart scan data so it can show you rCLwhat changedrCY over time.

    DriveDx
    Tracks drive health stats over time. That history has to live somewhere, so itrCOs persisted.

    iStat Menus
    Keeps historical system metrics (CPU, temps, etc.) so you can view trends.

    Carbon Copy Cloner
    Stores task history, logs, and backup metadata.

    Time Machine
    Not a perfect comparison, but it also keeps local state and history files
    under Library for tracking backups.

    Console / system logging
    macOS itself constantly writes logs and diagnostic data behind the scenes. -----

    It is normal macOS behavior. Nothing else to say.


    <SNIP>

    If a user explicitly selects an option not to save a report, and then
    manually empties the Bin, one would logically expect that data to be
    gone. The discovery that EtreCheck may be silently archiving these
    reports in ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck regardless of the
    user's "do not save" preference is a technical observation worth noting. >>> It isn't about whether one "trusts" the diagnostic capabilities of the
    tool, but rather how the software handles (or retains) user data behind
    the scenes.

    The focus is currently there because it serves as a primary example of
    how "helper" utilities interact with the macOS filesystem in ways that
    aren't always transparent to the average user.

    If you do eventually decide to check that directory after a run, IrCOd be >>> interested to hear if your findings match what IrCOve observed regarding >>> those "unsaved" reports reappearing.

    I have told you repeatedly I will not help you do anything that aids your
    harassment of him. PLEASE LEAVE HIM ALONE!

    Brock, I hear you loud and clear! It was never my intention to make you
    feel like a participant in a personal dispute.

    But that is what you do when you ask others to join your at the very least border-line harassment of a developer. I have asked you repeatedly to NOT try to include me in that behavior. I find it immoral and I will not participate.

    My interest has always been strictly technical rCo specifically, how a
    macOS application manages its support files and whether "delete" truly
    means "delete" in that context. However, I respect your boundary and I
    won't ask you to perform any further tests or checks regarding that
    specific directory.

    Thank you.

    I'll leave the matter of data persistence for others to investigate (or
    not) as they see fit.

    There is nothing left to investigate. It is common macOS app behavior.

    On a different note, if you do ever hear back from the Usenapp developer about that message-loss-on-reboot issue, I'd actually be genuinely
    interested in the fix. That sounds like a frustrating bug for any Usenet regular.

    I might reach out to him... but fighting bigger bugs now. Sigh.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 21:03:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 12, 2026 at 2:01:09rC>PM MST, "%" wrote <oACdnXKDFsOGlUH0nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 12:36:03rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <vQednUsaQLDYaUb0nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:40:23rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <pJKcnRu8btmVIEb0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:13:24rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <zFKdnZXon4foNUb0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Gremlin wrote:
    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
    news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29
    GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53|ore4->PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
    <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting
    the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn >>>>>>>>>> this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's
    extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see
    you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You
    *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you >>>>>>>>>> actually continued to follow this behavior pattern.

    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't. If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank
    you for doing so. I actually do call things like they are. You often take
    great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has
    been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in
    several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and
    you're already fucking up in them.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It
    isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included,
    focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality.

    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title.
    I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included,
    Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll
    and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one. >>>>>>>> Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are. >>>>>>>>
    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the
    only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having
    formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others
    who reached that opinion years before I ever met you.

    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on
    that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told
    you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those
    prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to
    anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why >>>>>>>> wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print?
    You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more >>>>>>>> purchases.

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main
    page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which >>>>>>>> specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they
    were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers
    though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match. >>>>>>>>
    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things
    because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was
    your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just
    occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others.
    You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and
    driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has
    that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results
    you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here?

    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I? One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it.
    I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the
    entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be
    an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set >>>>>>>> another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You
    won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the >>>>>>>> regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on
    occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so.

    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome
    here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else >>>>>>>> wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself
    included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You.
    Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion
    that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true
    and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult
    conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you >>>>>>>> resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot,
    then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such
    claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing
    of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm
    not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to
    keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued
    to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me
    with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet
    again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about
    having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I
    never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole
    with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it
    that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest
    and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with
    David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck
    are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever
    one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either.
    People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for >>>>>>>> themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are
    writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over
    the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several
    of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone. >>>>>>>>
    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical
    3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous >>>>>>>> discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why
    they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have
    been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th
    grade level on occasion.


    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in
    peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand.

    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks
    and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition >>>>>>>> atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did.

    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit. We've already been
    over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times.
    You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely
    bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw*
    it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have
    a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because
    said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose
    a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together
    over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the >>>>>>>> machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a
    computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill,
    field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate
    fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an
    engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten
    this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking
    gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know
    what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running
    a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the
    machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a
    limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general.
    You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true
    relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart
    diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive
    failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already.
    If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem
    entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care
    about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about
    your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the
    machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an
    issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth, >>>>>>>> because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere
    near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for
    the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be
    working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client.

    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You
    won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and
    attack instead.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway. >>>>>>>>
    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't
    going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't
    the bad guys here. You are.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my
    recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with
    AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you
    think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple
    times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they
    would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the
    purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone
    might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a
    positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest
    with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest >>>>>>>> intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do
    what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same
    routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC >>>>>>>> shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into
    considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that
    purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of
    the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one
    can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your
    very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see
    your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to. >>>>>>>>
    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?


    if he does i'll do all i can to fk it up

    Gremlin attacks my ability to understand even as he shows he does not >>>>>> understand what ChatGPT is being asked to do. I find that funny.

    they can killfile me but i'm still in your replies
    they're always going to read your answers so i still get seen

    Another good reason to reply to you.

    its ok with me i'd post here if no one came

    I do not post here now.

    i run this group

    I walk it.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From pursent100@pursent100@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 14:14:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 2:01:09rC>PM MST, "%" wrote <oACdnXKDFsOGlUH0nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 12:36:03rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <vQednUsaQLDYaUb0nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:40:23rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <pJKcnRu8btmVIEb0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:13:24rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <zFKdnZXon4foNUb0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Gremlin wrote:
    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
    news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29
    GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53|ore4->PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
    <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting
    the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn >>>>>>>>>>> this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's
    extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see
    you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You
    *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you
    actually continued to follow this behavior pattern.

    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't. If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank
    you for doing so. I actually do call things like they are. You often take
    great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has
    been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in
    several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and
    you're already fucking up in them.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It
    isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included,
    focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality.

    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title.
    I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included,
    Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll
    and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one.
    Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are. >>>>>>>>>
    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the
    only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having
    formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others
    who reached that opinion years before I ever met you.

    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on
    that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told
    you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those
    prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to
    anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why >>>>>>>>> wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print?
    You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more
    purchases.

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main
    page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which >>>>>>>>> specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they
    were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers
    though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match.

    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things
    because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was
    your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just
    occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others.
    You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and
    driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has
    that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results
    you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here?

    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I? One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it.
    I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the
    entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be
    an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set
    another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You
    won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the >>>>>>>>> regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on
    occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so.

    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome
    here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else
    wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself
    included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You.
    Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion
    that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true
    and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult
    conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you
    resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot,
    then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such
    claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing
    of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm
    not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to
    keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued
    to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me
    with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet
    again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about
    having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I
    never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole
    with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it
    that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest
    and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with
    David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck
    are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever
    one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either.
    People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for >>>>>>>>> themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are
    writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over
    the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several
    of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone. >>>>>>>>>
    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical
    3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous >>>>>>>>> discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why
    they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have
    been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th
    grade level on occasion.


    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in
    peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand.

    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks
    and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition
    atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did. >>>>>>>>>
    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit. We've already been
    over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times.
    You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely
    bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw*
    it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have
    a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because
    said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose
    a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together
    over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the
    machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a
    computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill,
    field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate
    fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an
    engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten
    this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking
    gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know
    what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running
    a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the
    machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a
    limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general.
    You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true
    relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart
    diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive
    failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already.
    If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem
    entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care
    about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about
    your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the
    machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an
    issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth, >>>>>>>>> because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere
    near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for
    the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be
    working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client.

    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You
    won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and
    attack instead.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway. >>>>>>>>>
    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't
    going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't
    the bad guys here. You are.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my
    recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with
    AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you
    think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple
    times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they
    would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the
    purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone
    might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a
    positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest
    with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest >>>>>>>>> intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do
    what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same
    routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC
    shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into
    considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that
    purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of
    the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one
    can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your
    very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see
    your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to. >>>>>>>>>
    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?


    if he does i'll do all i can to fk it up

    Gremlin attacks my ability to understand even as he shows he does not >>>>>>> understand what ChatGPT is being asked to do. I find that funny. >>>>>>>
    they can killfile me but i'm still in your replies
    they're always going to read your answers so i still get seen

    Another good reason to reply to you.

    its ok with me i'd post here if no one came

    I do not post here now.

    i run this group

    I walk it.

    you can't you've got painted hills
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 21:23:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 12, 2026 at 2:14:07rC>PM MST, "%" wrote <WaCdnZk-pJy4lkH0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 2:01:09rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <oACdnXKDFsOGlUH0nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 12:36:03rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <vQednUsaQLDYaUb0nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:40:23rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <pJKcnRu8btmVIEb0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:13:24rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <zFKdnZXon4foNUb0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Gremlin wrote:
    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
    news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29
    GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53|ore4->PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote >>>>>>>>>>> <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting
    the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn
    this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's
    extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see
    you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You
    *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you
    actually continued to follow this behavior pattern.

    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't. If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank
    you for doing so. I actually do call things like they are. You often take
    great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has
    been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in
    several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and
    you're already fucking up in them.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It
    isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included,
    focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality.

    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title.
    I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included,
    Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll
    and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one.
    Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are.

    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the
    only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having
    formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others
    who reached that opinion years before I ever met you.

    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on
    that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told
    you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those
    prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to
    anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why
    wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print?
    You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more
    purchases.

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main
    page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which
    specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they
    were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers
    though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match.

    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things
    because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was
    your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just
    occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others.
    You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and
    driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has
    that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results
    you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here?

    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I? One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it.
    I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the
    entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be
    an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set
    another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You
    won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the >>>>>>>>>> regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on
    occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so.

    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome
    here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else
    wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself
    included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You.
    Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion
    that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true
    and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult
    conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you
    resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot,
    then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such
    claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing
    of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm
    not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to
    keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued
    to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me
    with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet
    again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about
    having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I
    never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole
    with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it
    that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest
    and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with
    David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck
    are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever
    one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either.
    People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for >>>>>>>>>> themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are
    writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over
    the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several
    of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone.

    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical
    3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous
    discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why
    they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have
    been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th
    grade level on occasion.


    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in
    peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand.

    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks
    and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition
    atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did. >>>>>>>>>>
    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit. We've already been
    over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times.
    You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely
    bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw*
    it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have
    a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because
    said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose
    a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together
    over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the
    machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a
    computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill,
    field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate
    fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an
    engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten
    this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking
    gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know
    what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running
    a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the
    machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a
    limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general.
    You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true
    relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart
    diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive
    failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already.
    If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem
    entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care
    about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about
    your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the
    machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an
    issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth,
    because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere
    near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for
    the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be
    working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client.

    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You
    won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and
    attack instead.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway. >>>>>>>>>>
    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't
    going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't
    the bad guys here. You are.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my
    recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with
    AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you
    think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple
    times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they
    would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the
    purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone
    might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a
    positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest
    with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest
    intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do
    what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same
    routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC
    shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into
    considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that
    purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of
    the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one
    can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your
    very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see
    your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to. >>>>>>>>>>
    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?


    if he does i'll do all i can to fk it up

    Gremlin attacks my ability to understand even as he shows he does not >>>>>>>> understand what ChatGPT is being asked to do. I find that funny. >>>>>>>>
    they can killfile me but i'm still in your replies
    they're always going to read your answers so i still get seen

    Another good reason to reply to you.

    its ok with me i'd post here if no one came

    I do not post here now.

    i run this group

    I walk it.

    you can't you've got painted hills

    I have been there.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From pursent100@pursent100@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 14:41:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 2:14:07rC>PM MST, "%" wrote <WaCdnZk-pJy4lkH0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 2:01:09rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <oACdnXKDFsOGlUH0nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 12:36:03rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <vQednUsaQLDYaUb0nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:40:23rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <pJKcnRu8btmVIEb0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:13:24rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <zFKdnZXon4foNUb0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Gremlin wrote:
    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
    news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29
    GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53|ore4->PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting
    the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn
    this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's
    extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see
    you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You
    *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you
    actually continued to follow this behavior pattern.

    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't. If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank
    you for doing so. I actually do call things like they are. You often take
    great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has
    been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in
    several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and
    you're already fucking up in them.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It
    isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included,
    focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality. >>>>>>>>>>>
    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title.
    I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included,
    Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll
    and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one.
    Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are.

    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the
    only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having
    formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others
    who reached that opinion years before I ever met you.

    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on
    that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told
    you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those
    prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to
    anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why
    wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print?
    You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more
    purchases.

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main
    page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which
    specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they
    were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers
    though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match.

    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things
    because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was
    your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just
    occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others.
    You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and
    driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has
    that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results
    you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here?

    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I? One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it.
    I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the
    entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be
    an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set
    another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You
    won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the
    regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on
    occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so.

    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome
    here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else
    wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself
    included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You.
    Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion
    that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true
    and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult
    conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you
    resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot,
    then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such
    claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing
    of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm
    not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to
    keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued
    to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me
    with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet
    again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about
    having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I
    never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole
    with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it
    that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest
    and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with
    David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck
    are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever
    one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either.
    People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for >>>>>>>>>>> themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are
    writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over
    the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several
    of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone.

    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical
    3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous
    discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why
    they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have
    been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th
    grade level on occasion.


    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in >>>>>>>>>>>> peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand.

    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks
    and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition
    atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did. >>>>>>>>>>>
    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit. We've already been
    over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times.
    You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely
    bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw*
    it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have
    a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because
    said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose
    a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together
    over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the
    machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a
    computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill,
    field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate
    fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an
    engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten
    this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking
    gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know
    what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running
    a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the
    machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a
    limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general.
    You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true
    relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart
    diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive
    failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already.
    If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem
    entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care
    about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about
    your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the
    machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an
    issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth,
    because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere
    near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for
    the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be
    working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client.

    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You
    won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and
    attack instead.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>
    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't
    going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't
    the bad guys here. You are.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my
    recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with
    AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you
    think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple
    times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they
    would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the
    purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone
    might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a
    positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest
    with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest
    intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do
    what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same
    routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC
    shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into
    considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that
    purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of
    the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one
    can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your
    very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see
    your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to.

    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?


    if he does i'll do all i can to fk it up

    Gremlin attacks my ability to understand even as he shows he does not >>>>>>>>> understand what ChatGPT is being asked to do. I find that funny. >>>>>>>>>
    they can killfile me but i'm still in your replies
    they're always going to read your answers so i still get seen

    Another good reason to reply to you.

    its ok with me i'd post here if no one came

    I do not post here now.

    i run this group

    I walk it.

    you can't you've got painted hills

    I have been there.

    i saw where you wrote your name
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 21:48:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 12, 2026 at 2:41:30rC>PM MST, "%" wrote <R7acnck9E5sPjEH0nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 2:14:07rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <WaCdnZk-pJy4lkH0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 2:01:09rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <oACdnXKDFsOGlUH0nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 12:36:03rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <vQednUsaQLDYaUb0nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:40:23rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <pJKcnRu8btmVIEb0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:13:24rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <zFKdnZXon4foNUb0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Gremlin wrote:
    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
    news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29
    GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53|ore4->PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting
    the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn
    this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's
    extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see
    you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You
    *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you
    actually continued to follow this behavior pattern. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't. If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank
    you for doing so. I actually do call things like they are. You often take
    great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has
    been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in
    several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and
    you're already fucking up in them.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It
    isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included,
    focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title.
    I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included,
    Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll
    and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one.
    Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are.

    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the
    only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having
    formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others
    who reached that opinion years before I ever met you.

    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on
    that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told
    you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those
    prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to
    anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why
    wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print?
    You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more
    purchases.

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main
    page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which
    specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they
    were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers
    though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match.

    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things
    because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was
    your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just
    occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others.
    You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and
    driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has
    that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results
    you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here?

    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I? One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it.
    I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the
    entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be
    an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set
    another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You
    won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the
    regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on
    occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so.

    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome
    here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else
    wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself
    included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You.
    Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion
    that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true
    and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult
    conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you
    resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot,
    then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such
    claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing
    of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm
    not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to
    keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued
    to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me
    with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet
    again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about
    having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I
    never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole
    with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it
    that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest
    and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with
    David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck
    are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever
    one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either.
    People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for >>>>>>>>>>>> themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are
    writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over
    the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several
    of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone.

    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical
    3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous
    discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why
    they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have
    been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th
    grade level on occasion.


    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in >>>>>>>>>>>>> peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand.

    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks
    and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition
    atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit. We've already been
    over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times.
    You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely
    bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw*
    it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have
    a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because
    said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose
    a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together
    over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the
    machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a
    computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill,
    field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate
    fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an
    engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten
    this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking
    gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know
    what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running
    a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the
    machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a
    limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general.
    You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true
    relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart
    diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive
    failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already.
    If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem
    entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care
    about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about
    your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the
    machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an
    issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth,
    because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere
    near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for
    the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be
    working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You
    won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and
    attack instead.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't
    going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't
    the bad guys here. You are.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my
    recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with
    AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you
    think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple
    times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they
    would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the
    purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone
    might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a
    positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest
    with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest
    intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do
    what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same
    routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC
    shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into
    considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that
    purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of
    the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one
    can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your
    very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see
    your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to.

    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?


    if he does i'll do all i can to fk it up

    Gremlin attacks my ability to understand even as he shows he does not
    understand what ChatGPT is being asked to do. I find that funny. >>>>>>>>>>
    they can killfile me but i'm still in your replies
    they're always going to read your answers so i still get seen >>>>>>>>
    Another good reason to reply to you.

    its ok with me i'd post here if no one came

    I do not post here now.

    i run this group

    I walk it.

    you can't you've got painted hills

    I have been there.

    i saw where you wrote your name

    It was in the snow.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 23:07:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 12/04/2026 22:03, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 12:17:42rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n429emFgvflU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 19:04, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:27:40rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n41rvcFev6eU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 16:11, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:49:38rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n41po2Fejs2U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 01:09, Brock McNuggets - a Mac user - responded!
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 2:33:38rC>PM MST, ""David B."" asked a question. >>>>>>> <n3vt1iF5j1aU1@mid.individual.net>:
    [....]
    Have YOU checked to see if YOU have past EtreCheck reports hidden here?

    ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck

    Do tell. Thanks.

    I have some there, but not hidden. Or maybe there are obvious ones and secret
    hidden ones too! :)

    Thank you for confirming that, Brock! EfOe

    Sure.

    As you are well aware, most folk never look in their Library ...
    ..... the one under "Go" in their Finder title bar.

    Nor is thee any need.

    Indeed, one has to press the "Option" key to display it. So, what *IS* >>>>>> shown there is effectively hidden. Agreed?

    And not even always on option. Go to your Home folder and then View >Show View
    Options

    There is an option to show the Library folder. It will show in the Home >>>>> folder, but then it will NOT show in the "Go" menu even if you hold option.

    But it is made less obvious by design... it is not something most users need
    to go into.

    That is a fair point regarding the View Options; itrCOs certainly a more >>>> permanent way to keep the folder visible for those who need frequent
    access to ~/Library.

    Well, keeps it visible in the Library (which I knew) but I thought it kept it
    visible in the Go menu... but it hides it from there even on Option. Either my
    memory is wrong or Apple changed something in the last version or so. No >>> biggie.

    Keep up, dear boy! ;-)

    I will never know every little change Apple makes to its systems with each update.

    Ask me. I'll help if I can!

    OK

    Please delete "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Restart your computer and then check that the above item has GONE!

    If I reboot I will lose this message -- weakness of my client. So maybe later.

    Have you raised this wit the developer of Usenapp?

    I have not... though not a bad idea to do so.

    Perhaps I should start to use it again - I have paid for it!

    It is ... decent. It has a lot of quirks and issues but I prefer it to Thunderbird. Or to what Thunderbird was a few years ago. Have not tried it again but I doubt it has improved that much.

    Thunderbird works really well now - and it is open-source

    Usenapp is a one-man-band application which is NOT available from the
    Apple App Store.

    Have you ever wondered why Andre has banned me from asking questions on
    the Usenapp Forum?

    But I would expect them to be gone.

    Pssst - they will be! ;-)

    Good. Though with my issues with iCloud / macOS recently it might come back >>> (not likely -- that folder is not backed up on iCloud, but iCloud and my Mac
    are NOT doing as they should!)

    In your situation I'd restart in Internet Recovery and install a fresh
    copy of macOS again. You won't lose any files, photos or documents.

    It doesn't take much more than half an hour or so!

    The issue is meta-data issues on both the local system and iCloud itself. Talked with an engineer today... who is escalating it even higher.

    Please start a new thread here in ACW to discuss what is actually
    occurring.

    Has the question been raised in the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums?

    If it has gone, visit www.etrecheck.com, download and run Etrecheck >>>>>
    I have no desire to download and run it again... and you do not trust it so
    why would you advise people to do this?

    Simply to establish the truth.

    You have already found it keeps logs in it Application Support folder. What >>> more are you looking for?

    *WHY DOES IT KEEP A COPY*?

    When you run a scan it saves it there. Simple as that. If it bothers you then you now know where to delete it.

    What other apps have you checked to see what they save there?

    Review the report (share with us if you wish) - keep a copy in 'Notes' >>>>>> should you want to.

    Then delete the EtreCheck report.

    When appropriate, select the box saying that you do NOT want to save a >>>>>> copy. Send the report to your Bin and then empty your Bin.

    All straight-forward!

    Now go to "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Does the report you said that you did not wish to keep appear there? >>>>>>
    If so ....... *WHY* is it there?!!!

    Please advise.

    Please stop focusing on EtreCheck.

    The reason I suggest this specific sequence is to highlight a matter of >>>> user agency and data persistence.

    It is hardly unique. I have not tested them all, but I bet other apps do much
    the same. The issue here is not the app, but you digging into it in a vacuum
    of understanding. You assume what you find is rare or bad but you have no clue
    if it is normal or what the folder is even for. And then you make insinuations
    of wrong doing.

    It's a learning experience. I'm making NO insinuations.

    Then the answer is simple: Application Support is used for files the application needs. Might be sound and video files for a video editing app, and
    those are needed for new files. Might be old scans for comparison. Might be good if EtreCheck deleted old ones from there but it harms NOTHING for it to keep them and sometimes can help (you can compare old and new results).

    From ChatGPT:

    -----
    Malwarebytes for Mac
    Keeps scan logs, quarantine data, and history. You wonrCOt see it unless you go
    digging, but itrCOs there.

    CleanMyMac X
    Stores scan results, cleanup history, and smart scan data so it can show you rCLwhat changedrCY over time.

    DriveDx
    Tracks drive health stats over time. That history has to live somewhere, so itrCOs persisted.

    iStat Menus
    Keeps historical system metrics (CPU, temps, etc.) so you can view trends.

    Carbon Copy Cloner
    Stores task history, logs, and backup metadata.

    Time Machine
    Not a perfect comparison, but it also keeps local state and history files under Library for tracking backups.

    Console / system logging
    macOS itself constantly writes logs and diagnostic data behind the scenes. -----

    It is normal macOS behavior. Nothing else to say.

    Thanks for that breakdown, Brock. The list of other apps (Malwarebytes,
    CCC, etc.) and their use of Application Support for metadata and logs is
    a helpful comparison.

    I certainly agree that the folder itself is standard macOS architecture
    for persistent data. I suppose the "learning experience" here is the distinction between user-facing actions (clicking "don't save") and
    background application behavior (automatic archiving).

    In many apps, "Don't Save" implies that no record will be kept, but as
    your list shows, many "prosumer" (good word that!) and diagnostic tools prioritise data retention for history and comparison over absolute
    deletion. ItrCOs a design choicerCoone that prioritises system recovery and comparison over a "zero-footprint" approach.

    If a user explicitly selects an option not to save a report, and then
    manually empties the Bin, one would logically expect that data to be
    gone. The discovery that EtreCheck may be silently archiving these
    reports in ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck regardless of the
    user's "do not save" preference is a technical observation worth noting. >>>> It isn't about whether one "trusts" the diagnostic capabilities of the >>>> tool, but rather how the software handles (or retains) user data behind >>>> the scenes.

    The focus is currently there because it serves as a primary example of >>>> how "helper" utilities interact with the macOS filesystem in ways that >>>> aren't always transparent to the average user.

    If you do eventually decide to check that directory after a run, IrCOd be >>>> interested to hear if your findings match what IrCOve observed regarding >>>> those "unsaved" reports reappearing.

    I have told you repeatedly I will not help you do anything that aids your >>> harassment of him. PLEASE LEAVE HIM ALONE!

    Brock, I hear you loud and clear! It was never my intention to make you
    feel like a participant in a personal dispute.

    But that is what you do when you ask others to join your at the very least border-line harassment of a developer. I have asked you repeatedly to NOT try to include me in that behavior. I find it immoral and I will not participate.

    My interest has always been strictly technical rCo specifically, how a
    macOS application manages its support files and whether "delete" truly
    means "delete" in that context. However, I respect your boundary and I
    won't ask you to perform any further tests or checks regarding that
    specific directory.

    Thank you.

    YW :-D

    I'll leave the matter of data persistence for others to investigate (or
    not) as they see fit.

    There is nothing left to investigate. It is common macOS app behavior.

    Well, there ya go!

    On a different note, if you do ever hear back from the Usenapp developer
    about that message-loss-on-reboot issue, I'd actually be genuinely
    interested in the fix. That sounds like a frustrating bug for any Usenet
    regular.

    I might reach out to him... but fighting bigger bugs now. Sigh.

    Good luck with the Apple/iCloud engineers. Metadata issues involving iCloud
    can be notoriously difficult to pin down since so much of it happens on
    the server side. I hope the escalation leads to a quick resolution for you!
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 23:05:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 12, 2026 at 3:07:14rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n42jciFig46U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 22:03, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 12:17:42rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n429emFgvflU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 19:04, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:27:40rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n41rvcFev6eU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 16:11, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:49:38rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n41po2Fejs2U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 01:09, Brock McNuggets - a Mac user - responded!
    On Apr 11, 2026 at 2:33:38rC>PM MST, ""David B."" asked a question. >>>>>>>> <n3vt1iF5j1aU1@mid.individual.net>:
    [....]
    Have YOU checked to see if YOU have past EtreCheck reports hidden here?

    ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck

    Do tell. Thanks.

    I have some there, but not hidden. Or maybe there are obvious ones and secret
    hidden ones too! :)

    Thank you for confirming that, Brock! EfOe

    Sure.

    As you are well aware, most folk never look in their Library ... >>>>>>> ..... the one under "Go" in their Finder title bar.

    Nor is thee any need.

    Indeed, one has to press the "Option" key to display it. So, what *IS* >>>>>>> shown there is effectively hidden. Agreed?

    And not even always on option. Go to your Home folder and then View >Show View
    Options

    There is an option to show the Library folder. It will show in the Home >>>>>> folder, but then it will NOT show in the "Go" menu even if you hold option.

    But it is made less obvious by design... it is not something most users need
    to go into.

    That is a fair point regarding the View Options; itrCOs certainly a more >>>>> permanent way to keep the folder visible for those who need frequent >>>>> access to ~/Library.

    Well, keeps it visible in the Library (which I knew) but I thought it kept it
    visible in the Go menu... but it hides it from there even on Option. Either my
    memory is wrong or Apple changed something in the last version or so. No >>>> biggie.

    Keep up, dear boy! ;-)

    I will never know every little change Apple makes to its systems with each >> update.

    Ask me. I'll help if I can!

    Sure. Do you know if I am correct about Library still showing in the menu
    (with Option) even if it was set to show in the Home folder? If so, when did
    it change?


    OK

    Please delete "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Restart your computer and then check that the above item has GONE! >>>>>>
    If I reboot I will lose this message -- weakness of my client. So maybe later.

    Have you raised this wit the developer of Usenapp?

    I have not... though not a bad idea to do so.

    Perhaps I should start to use it again - I have paid for it!

    It is ... decent. It has a lot of quirks and issues but I prefer it to
    Thunderbird. Or to what Thunderbird was a few years ago. Have not tried it >> again but I doubt it has improved that much.

    Thunderbird works really well now - and it is open-source'

    Been a while since I used it, but I do not recall it having any real filtering system. Does it have one now? It is mostly for email with Usenet sorta an after-thought.

    Usenapp is a one-man-band application which is NOT available from the
    Apple App Store.

    Usenapp is designed for Usenet -- though its filtering and searches are not great either.

    Have you ever wondered why Andre has banned me from asking questions on
    the Usenapp Forum?

    Forgot he had. Do you know why? What were you doing to him?


    But I would expect them to be gone.

    Pssst - they will be! ;-)

    Good. Though with my issues with iCloud / macOS recently it might come back
    (not likely -- that folder is not backed up on iCloud, but iCloud and my Mac
    are NOT doing as they should!)

    In your situation I'd restart in Internet Recovery and install a fresh
    copy of macOS again. You won't lose any files, photos or documents.

    It doesn't take much more than half an hour or so!

    The issue is meta-data issues on both the local system and iCloud itself.
    Talked with an engineer today... who is escalating it even higher.

    Please start a new thread here in ACW to discuss what is actually
    occurring.

    Not a bad idea. I might. But I think Apple Support will be the better source.
    I do not think anyone here has the expertise to help. And of course the trolls will use it as another avenue of attack. Look at the AI web programming discussions... Carroll jumped into attack with insane lies that if I can get *AI* to write JavaScript for me this must mean I am some sort of expert. It
    was insane. He did as he does -- argued with voices in his head and blamed me. And guess what -- not that anyone is obligated to, but nobody else called him out. Not you. Not Apd, Certainly none of the trolls. Seems honesty and decency is not a high value here and that is a shame.

    Has the question been raised in the Apple Support Communities (ASC) forums?

    Not that I know of.

    If it has gone, visit www.etrecheck.com, download and run Etrecheck >>>>>>
    I have no desire to download and run it again... and you do not trust it so
    why would you advise people to do this?

    Simply to establish the truth.

    You have already found it keeps logs in it Application Support folder. What
    more are you looking for?

    *WHY DOES IT KEEP A COPY*?

    When you run a scan it saves it there. Simple as that. If it bothers you then
    you now know where to delete it.

    What other apps have you checked to see what they save there?

    Review the report (share with us if you wish) - keep a copy in 'Notes' >>>>>>> should you want to.

    Then delete the EtreCheck report.

    When appropriate, select the box saying that you do NOT want to save a >>>>>>> copy. Send the report to your Bin and then empty your Bin.

    All straight-forward!

    Now go to "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"

    Does the report you said that you did not wish to keep appear there? >>>>>>>
    If so ....... *WHY* is it there?!!!

    Please advise.

    Please stop focusing on EtreCheck.

    The reason I suggest this specific sequence is to highlight a matter of >>>>> user agency and data persistence.

    It is hardly unique. I have not tested them all, but I bet other apps do much
    the same. The issue here is not the app, but you digging into it in a vacuum
    of understanding. You assume what you find is rare or bad but you have no clue
    if it is normal or what the folder is even for. And then you make insinuations
    of wrong doing.

    It's a learning experience. I'm making NO insinuations.

    Then the answer is simple: Application Support is used for files the
    application needs. Might be sound and video files for a video editing app, and
    those are needed for new files. Might be old scans for comparison. Might be >> good if EtreCheck deleted old ones from there but it harms NOTHING for it to >> keep them and sometimes can help (you can compare old and new results).

    From ChatGPT:

    -----
    Malwarebytes for Mac
    Keeps scan logs, quarantine data, and history. You wonrCOt see it unless you go
    digging, but itrCOs there.

    CleanMyMac X
    Stores scan results, cleanup history, and smart scan data so it can show you >> rCLwhat changedrCY over time.

    DriveDx
    Tracks drive health stats over time. That history has to live somewhere, so >> itrCOs persisted.

    iStat Menus
    Keeps historical system metrics (CPU, temps, etc.) so you can view trends. >>
    Carbon Copy Cloner
    Stores task history, logs, and backup metadata.

    Time Machine
    Not a perfect comparison, but it also keeps local state and history files
    under Library for tracking backups.

    Console / system logging
    macOS itself constantly writes logs and diagnostic data behind the scenes. >> -----

    It is normal macOS behavior. Nothing else to say.

    Thanks for that breakdown, Brock. The list of other apps (Malwarebytes,
    CCC, etc.) and their use of Application Support for metadata and logs is
    a helpful comparison.

    I certainly agree that the folder itself is standard macOS architecture
    for persistent data. I suppose the "learning experience" here is the distinction between user-facing actions (clicking "don't save") and background application behavior (automatic archiving).

    What do you want to know about it? Different apps use it differently. You now know it saves old results. OK. What else are you curious about?

    In many apps, "Don't Save" implies that no record will be kept, but as
    your list shows, many "prosumer" (good word that!) and diagnostic tools prioritise data retention for history and comparison over absolute
    deletion. ItrCOs a design choicerCoone that prioritises system recovery and comparison over a "zero-footprint" approach.

    Sure. OK, "mystery" solved.


    If a user explicitly selects an option not to save a report, and then >>>>> manually empties the Bin, one would logically expect that data to be >>>>> gone. The discovery that EtreCheck may be silently archiving these
    reports in ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck regardless of the >>>>> user's "do not save" preference is a technical observation worth noting. >>>>> It isn't about whether one "trusts" the diagnostic capabilities of the >>>>> tool, but rather how the software handles (or retains) user data behind >>>>> the scenes.

    The focus is currently there because it serves as a primary example of >>>>> how "helper" utilities interact with the macOS filesystem in ways that >>>>> aren't always transparent to the average user.

    If you do eventually decide to check that directory after a run, IrCOd be >>>>> interested to hear if your findings match what IrCOve observed regarding >>>>> those "unsaved" reports reappearing.

    I have told you repeatedly I will not help you do anything that aids your >>>> harassment of him. PLEASE LEAVE HIM ALONE!

    Brock, I hear you loud and clear! It was never my intention to make you
    feel like a participant in a personal dispute.

    But that is what you do when you ask others to join your at the very least >> border-line harassment of a developer. I have asked you repeatedly to NOT try
    to include me in that behavior. I find it immoral and I will not participate.

    My interest has always been strictly technical rCo specifically, how a
    macOS application manages its support files and whether "delete" truly
    means "delete" in that context. However, I respect your boundary and I
    won't ask you to perform any further tests or checks regarding that
    specific directory.

    Thank you.

    YW :-D

    I do hope this continues.

    I'll leave the matter of data persistence for others to investigate (or
    not) as they see fit.

    There is nothing left to investigate. It is common macOS app behavior.

    Well, there ya go!

    Thanks.

    On a different note, if you do ever hear back from the Usenapp developer >>> about that message-loss-on-reboot issue, I'd actually be genuinely
    interested in the fix. That sounds like a frustrating bug for any Usenet >>> regular.

    I might reach out to him... but fighting bigger bugs now. Sigh.

    Good luck with the Apple/iCloud engineers. Metadata issues involving iCloud can be notoriously difficult to pin down since so much of it happens on
    the server side. I hope the escalation leads to a quick resolution for you!

    Thanks... it is frustrating to say the least.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From pursent100@pursent100@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 16:31:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 2:41:30rC>PM MST, "%" wrote <R7acnck9E5sPjEH0nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 2:14:07rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <WaCdnZk-pJy4lkH0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 2:01:09rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <oACdnXKDFsOGlUH0nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 12:36:03rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <vQednUsaQLDYaUb0nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:40:23rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <pJKcnRu8btmVIEb0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:13:24rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <zFKdnZXon4foNUb0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Gremlin wrote:
    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
    news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29
    GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53|ore4->PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting
    the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn
    this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's
    extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see
    you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You
    *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you
    actually continued to follow this behavior pattern. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't. If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank
    you for doing so. I actually do call things like they are. You often take
    great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has
    been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in
    several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and
    you're already fucking up in them.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It
    isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included,
    focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title.
    I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included,
    Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll
    and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one.
    Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are.

    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the
    only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having
    formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others
    who reached that opinion years before I ever met you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on
    that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told
    you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those
    prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to
    anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why
    wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print?
    You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more
    purchases.

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main
    page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which
    specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they
    were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers
    though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match.

    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things
    because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was
    your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just
    occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others.
    You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and
    driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has
    that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results
    you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here?

    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I? One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it.
    I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the
    entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be
    an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set
    another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You
    won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the
    regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on
    occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so.

    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome
    here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else
    wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself
    included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You.
    Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion
    that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true
    and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult
    conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you
    resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot,
    then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such
    claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing
    of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm
    not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to
    keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued
    to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me
    with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet
    again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about
    having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I
    never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole
    with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it
    that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest
    and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with
    David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck
    are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever
    one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either.
    People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for
    themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are
    writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over
    the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several
    of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone.

    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical
    3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous
    discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why
    they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have
    been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th
    grade level on occasion.


    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand.

    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks
    and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition
    atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit. We've already been
    over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times.
    You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely
    bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw*
    it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have
    a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because
    said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose
    a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together
    over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the
    machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a
    computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill,
    field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate
    fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an
    engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten
    this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking
    gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know
    what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running
    a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the
    machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a
    limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general.
    You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true
    relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart
    diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive
    failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already.
    If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem
    entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care
    about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about
    your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the
    machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an
    issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth,
    because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere
    near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for
    the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be
    working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You
    won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and
    attack instead.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't
    going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't
    the bad guys here. You are.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my
    recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with
    AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you
    think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple
    times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they
    would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the
    purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone
    might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a
    positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest
    with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest
    intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do
    what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same
    routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC
    shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into
    considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that
    purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of
    the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one
    can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your
    very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see
    your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to.

    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?


    if he does i'll do all i can to fk it up

    Gremlin attacks my ability to understand even as he shows he does not
    understand what ChatGPT is being asked to do. I find that funny. >>>>>>>>>>>
    they can killfile me but i'm still in your replies
    they're always going to read your answers so i still get seen >>>>>>>>>
    Another good reason to reply to you.

    its ok with me i'd post here if no one came

    I do not post here now.

    i run this group

    I walk it.

    you can't you've got painted hills

    I have been there.

    i saw where you wrote your name

    It was in the snow.

    it's a blistering 42 here right now
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Apr 12 23:58:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 12, 2026 at 4:31:48rC>PM MST, "%" wrote <jfKdnfom4uIbtkH0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 2:41:30rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <R7acnck9E5sPjEH0nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 2:14:07rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <WaCdnZk-pJy4lkH0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 2:01:09rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <oACdnXKDFsOGlUH0nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 12:36:03rC>PM MST, "%" wrote
    <vQednUsaQLDYaUb0nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:40:23rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <pJKcnRu8btmVIEb0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:13:24rC>AM MST, "%" wrote
    <zFKdnZXon4foNUb0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    Gremlin wrote:
    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
    news:69db1685$2$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sun, 12 Apr 2026 03:50:29
    GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Apr 11, 2026 at 8:25:53|ore4->PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <XnsB42BEE5BDDEA6HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    [SNIP SNIP]

    Agreed again! I am shocked to see you showing a backbone and correcting
    the only 'friend' (he really isn't; but you are determined to learn
    this the hard way) you have here. Kudos for doing the right thing. It's
    extremely rare and it's appreciated. Sincerely. It would be nice to see
    you doing this as well as accepting humility with grace more often. You
    *could potentially* earn some much needed respect from others if you
    actually continued to follow this behavior pattern. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I call it like it is.

    No, you don't. If you actually did that, I'd respond more often and thank
    you for doing so. I actually do call things like they are. You often take
    great offense to that and lie your arse off as you do so, but, the jig has
    been up for sometime now. You're already over extending your welcome in
    several other newsgroups. It's been years since you last posted to some and
    you're already fucking up in them.

    At some point, maybe?, you'll come to realize that the problem is you. It
    isn't logical to assume it's everyone else, Snit.

    Where so many of the trolls, often you included, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> focus on tribalism and scapegoating I focus on morality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There's only a couple of people here who nearly qualify for the troll title.
    I'm not one of them. Neither are the rest of the regulars. Yourself included,
    Snit. I often refer to you as a troll - but you are much worse than a troll
    and your behavior doesn't really fit the old school definition of one.
    Trolls aren't quite as bad/dishonest as you continue to show you are.

    You also seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. I'm not the
    only one to have noticed this either. Infact, I'm decades late in having
    formed the same opinion - without interacting with the majority of others
    who reached that opinion years before I ever met you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Back when you first got here and asked about the 3d printing technology on
    that website...I knew something was a little off with you. The website told
    you, in fine print granted, but it did tell you exactly what they did those
    prints with. They are in the business of selling that gear they make to
    anyone who can afford it. Those prints were done with their gear. Why
    wouldn't they want you to know which model was responsible for each print?
    You could be an interested buyer with the bankroll to make one or more
    purchases.

    The site also disclosed their printer technology in fine print on the main
    page. No digging around was necessary unless you wanted to know which
    specific make/model was responsible for the quite nicely done prints they
    were sharing. They weren't your everyday average home owner grade printers
    though. Those were some very nice machines with the pricetag to match.

    You told me that I was mistaken, I must have misread one or more things
    because they did not include any specifics about the printers used. That was
    your rebuttle. Despite my sharing the links and a screenshot. <G> It just
    occured to me that you have actually used that routine before, with others.
    You've also done the same song and dance routine concerning your arrest and
    driving records. You really do lie your ass off and hope nobody notices. Has
    that ever actually worked out for you? Has it ever gotten you the results
    you wanted instead of the ones I've seen you get when you tried it here?

    Good to see you back it though.

    Why wouldn't I? One, it was solid advice. Two, you of all people provided it.
    I had to respond. I've never seen you shooting straight from the hip the
    entire time I've known you existed. To say it took me by surprise would be
    an under statement. I strongly suspect it's some new? variation to set
    another circus tent. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't really matter. You
    won't gain the necessary traction with it in acw. Almost none of the
    regulars in acw interact with you at all. Of the few of us who still do on
    occasion, it's rare and becoming that much more so. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    acw isn't suitable for your activities anymore. You haven't been welcome
    here for a long time. So for you the other day to suggest someone else
    wasn't wanted here - that was just out of line. Various regulars, myself
    included, have all asked that you fuck off. Not SC, not Pot Head, etc. You.
    Specifically, you. The majority of us have corrected reached the conclusion
    that the various urls known to contain details concerning you is all true
    and that you aren't the sort of person who's capable of having an adult
    conversation with nearly anyone for any real period of time before you
    resort to childish antics and false accusations.

    Oh, and creative story telling. Floodbot, insider knowledge of the floodbot,
    then accusing me of lying about having insider knowledge when I made no such
    claim in the first place. Do you really think all that morphing and changing
    of your original accusation went unnoticed by most? I doubt it, dude. I'm
    not the only one to notice how many times you morphed the floodbot story to
    keep from admitting you lied about me and apologizing for it. You continued
    to try and shift any blame from you onto me. You continued to lie about me
    with your efforts to morph the story and you accused me of being a liar yet
    again when I wasn't with yet another morphing effort. That I lied about
    having insider knowledge of the bot. I can't very well lie about something I
    never claimed in the first place. You have dug yourself such a deep hole
    with the whole floodbot accusation and your follow up efforts to defend it
    that you sunk any possible hope of someone thinking that you're an honest
    and honorable person.

    You are neither honest nor honorable. Only in a rare situation, as with
    David Brooks and his efforts to continue to harass the author of Etrecheck
    are you even remotely honest. Otherwise, you lie and double down on whatever
    one it is this time when you're called out.

    Your claims of bringing receipts aren't working out as you had hoped either.
    People are checking the MIDs you provide. They are discovering for
    themselves that the MIDs you present are not supporting the stories you are
    writing. People are finding out that your're quoting out of context all over
    the map AND you seem to have a serious reading comprehension issue. Several
    of us have agreed that this is what you're actually showing everyone.

    Atleast one poster suspects you might be struggling to read at what a typical
    3rd grader should be capable of. Going back over some of our previous
    discussions (Not to worry, I only spent twenty minutes or so) I can see why
    they have that impression and I'm surprised that I missed it. I might have
    been giving you undeserved credit by thinking you were reading at 5th to 8th
    grade level on occasion.


    If you can continue this I am happy to move forward in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peace.

    I'll try to dumb this down further for you in the hope that you understand.

    I responded to you because you did the right thing concerning David Brooks
    and I was very surprised by this. I felt that you deserved recognition
    atleast of some sort for calling David Brooks out as you did. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have no intentions of giving you a free pass, Snit. We've already been
    over this. You have knowingly lied your arse off about me multiple times.
    You have intentionally gone out of your way to try and seed a completely
    bogus label that was supposed to describe me, but, as we've *all seen in acw*
    it actually describes you. A functionally illiterate fraud would still have
    a dead mac and still think there was a problem with the mainboard because
    said person wouldn't know any different. They wouldn't know how to diagnose
    a spinner HD in failure condition. They wouldn't put two and two together
    over time why the machines performance started to degrade and then the
    machine began to become unstable. Yet, this same person would try to run a
    computer repair business. Without having the necessary knowledge, skill,
    field experience, or tools! to even begin. Only a functionally illiterate
    fraud such as yourself, Snit, would confuse a soldering iron for that of an
    engraver. Only a functionally illiterate fraud (i'm just going to shorten
    this to bullshitter) like you would be unable to diagnose his own fucking
    gear.

    As everyone can see who read that repair discussion, you really don't know
    what the fuck you're doing when it comes to doing something besides running
    a program you're already familiar with. You don't actually know how the
    machine runs. You aren't that familiar with the hardware AND you have a
    limited above beginner end user level knowledge of the computer in general.
    You don't actually understand how the software itself works or it's true
    relation to the hardware.

    It was nice to see, despite your efforts to stall me, to see that smart
    diags agreed with my and mine alone diagnosis; that you had a hard drive
    failure in progress and it had been in such a state for a long time already.
    If you were competent, you had more than enough time to diagnose the problem
    entirely on your own and take necessary action to keep all the data you care
    about as well as replace the drive, reload the os, apps, etc, and go about
    your day. You didn't do that because you didn't know what was wrong with the
    machine. You claimed you took it to someone and they determined there was an
    issue with the mainboard. I don't believe you were telling the truth,
    because, it's not that likely that you'd find an actual tech who's anywhere
    near as incompetent as you.

    Any technician who cannot diagnose a bad drive and blames the mainboard for
    the symptoms the computer is displaying is incompetent. They shouldn't be
    working on their own gear, let alone, a paying client. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They need to take some classes and stop being a poseur until they do. You
    won't even do that. You'd rather wallow in your excessive ignorance and
    attack instead.

    I am not the one who wants the war you and Carroll push anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There's no war that is being pushed by Carroll or myself, Snit. You aren't
    going to be able to make a sale with this bullshit story either. We aren't
    the bad guys here. You are.

    Let it end here. Deal?

    If you wanted things to end, you had the option of ignoring several of my
    recent posts OR! responding to them yourself. You chose to play games with
    AI instead for each reply. Despite already being shown by the very AIs you
    think so highly of that it cannot accurately do as you requested multiple
    times and shared the very inaccurate results of. The AI's told you that they
    would provide very inaccurate information and should not be used for the
    purposes you did in those replies you left.

    Chatgpt I think it was? went into greater detail and explained why someone
    might want to use the 'psy profile' routine and it wasn't anything of a
    positive nature. The individual who'd opt to do this wasn't being honest
    with the audience. In other words Snit, you were being very dishonest
    intentionally with your AI replies. All because you knew Chatgpt couldn't do
    what you were asking of it. So you have no excuse to continue with the same
    routine. You know the results are junk. The AI itself has told you. SC
    shared the discussion concerning the subject.

    Not only is Chatgpt incapable of doing as you requested - It also went into
    considerable detail concerning why someone might try to use it for that
    purpose and share the results. A dishonest individual is a nice summary of
    the type of individual who would.

    Going by what's already well known about you and your usenet history; one
    can easily reach the conclusion you are playing games with AI due to your
    very dishonest nature.

    If one knows anything about your history with some of us here, they can see
    your very dishonest nature in the very reply that I'm responding to.

    Can you go a single post without mentioning SC?


    if he does i'll do all i can to fk it up

    Gremlin attacks my ability to understand even as he shows he does not
    understand what ChatGPT is being asked to do. I find that funny. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    they can killfile me but i'm still in your replies
    they're always going to read your answers so i still get seen >>>>>>>>>>
    Another good reason to reply to you.

    its ok with me i'd post here if no one came

    I do not post here now.

    i run this group

    I walk it.

    you can't you've got painted hills

    I have been there.

    i saw where you wrote your name

    It was in the snow.

    it's a blistering 42 here right now

    You have more experience with snow... thought he pollen is so thick here it looks like it is snowing.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Apr 13 09:08:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 13/04/2026 00:05, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    Do you know if I am correct about Library still showing in the menu
    (with Option) even if it was set to show in the Home folder? If so, when did it change?

    Here's what Gemini has to say about it! I hope this helps:-

    =

    This is a classic bit of macOS "logic" that has tripped up many longtime users. Brock is actually touching on a subtle change in how the Go menu behaves relative to the Home folder's visibility settings.

    The Behavior Change

    Historically, the Library would show up in the Go menu only when you
    held the Option key. However, the logic has become a bit more
    "intelligent" (or confusing, depending on your perspective) in recent
    versions of macOS:

    The Standard Way: By default, Library is hidden. You hold Option, it
    appears in Go.
    +1

    The "Persistent" Way: If you go to your Home folder, open View Options (Command + J), and check Show Library Folder, the folder becomes
    permanently visible in your Home directory.

    The Menu Disappearance: In modern macOS (including Sequoia), once you
    have set the Library to be permanently visible in the Home folder, macOS
    often "promotes" it to a visible state in the file system but
    simultaneously hides it from the Go menu's Option-key shortcut.

    When did it change?
    While Apple doesn't always document these "quality of life" tweaks in
    release notes, this behavior began to surface more consistently around
    macOS Ventura and has carried through to Sonoma and Sequoia.

    The logic seems to be: If the user has explicitly chosen to show the
    Library folder in their Home directory, they no longer need a "hidden" shortcut to find it. Essentially, the Option-key trick in the Go menu is
    a "reveal" function; if there is nothing left to reveal because it's
    already visible, the menu item often doesn't trigger.

    Summary for Brock:
    Is he correct? Yes. If the Library is set to "Show" in the Home folder,
    it frequently stops appearing in the Go menu, even when holding Option.

    When did it change? The shift became prominent with the transition to
    macOS 13 (Ventura) and remains the case in macOS 15 (Sequoia).

    The Irony: To get the Library back in the Go menu via the Option key, he
    would actually have to go back into View Options and uncheck "Show
    Library Folder."

    It's one of those "helpful" Apple features where the system assumes that
    since you've made the folder a first-class citizen in your Home folder,
    you'll just click it there instead of using the menu bar.

    How to show the hidden Library folder
    This short video demonstrates the traditional method of using the Option
    key to reveal the Library folder, which serves as a helpful baseline for understanding when and why the menu behavior might change.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IQSnbtSVeU

    =

    HTH. EfOe
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Apr 13 15:42:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 13, 2026 at 1:08:57rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n43mkpFnke4U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 13/04/2026 00:05, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    Do you know if I am correct about Library still showing in the menu
    (with Option) even if it was set to show in the Home folder? If so, when did >> it change?

    Here's what Gemini has to say about it! I hope this helps:-

    =

    This is a classic bit of macOS "logic" that has tripped up many longtime users. Brock is actually touching on a subtle change in how the Go menu behaves relative to the Home folder's visibility settings.

    The Behavior Change

    Historically, the Library would show up in the Go menu only when you
    held the Option key. However, the logic has become a bit more
    "intelligent" (or confusing, depending on your perspective) in recent versions of macOS:

    The Standard Way: By default, Library is hidden. You hold Option, it
    appears in Go.
    +1

    The "Persistent" Way: If you go to your Home folder, open View Options (Command + J), and check Show Library Folder, the folder becomes
    permanently visible in your Home directory.

    The Menu Disappearance: In modern macOS (including Sequoia), once you
    have set the Library to be permanently visible in the Home folder, macOS often "promotes" it to a visible state in the file system but
    simultaneously hides it from the Go menu's Option-key shortcut.

    When did it change?
    While Apple doesn't always document these "quality of life" tweaks in
    release notes, this behavior began to surface more consistently around
    macOS Ventura and has carried through to Sonoma and Sequoia.

    The logic seems to be: If the user has explicitly chosen to show the
    Library folder in their Home directory, they no longer need a "hidden" shortcut to find it. Essentially, the Option-key trick in the Go menu is
    a "reveal" function; if there is nothing left to reveal because it's
    already visible, the menu item often doesn't trigger.

    Summary for Brock:
    Is he correct? Yes. If the Library is set to "Show" in the Home folder,
    it frequently stops appearing in the Go menu, even when holding Option.

    When did it change? The shift became prominent with the transition to
    macOS 13 (Ventura) and remains the case in macOS 15 (Sequoia).

    The Irony: To get the Library back in the Go menu via the Option key, he would actually have to go back into View Options and uncheck "Show
    Library Folder."

    It's one of those "helpful" Apple features where the system assumes that since you've made the folder a first-class citizen in your Home folder, you'll just click it there instead of using the menu bar.

    How to show the hidden Library folder
    This short video demonstrates the traditional method of using the Option
    key to reveal the Library folder, which serves as a helpful baseline for understanding when and why the menu behavior might change.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IQSnbtSVeU

    =

    HTH. EfOe

    Thanks. Assuming this is right I still had minor nit picky details wrong, but close enough. :)
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Apr 13 16:59:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 13/04/2026 16:42, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 13, 2026 at 1:08:57rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n43mkpFnke4U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 13/04/2026 00:05, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    Do you know if I am correct about Library still showing in the menu
    (with Option) even if it was set to show in the Home folder? If so, when did
    it change?

    Here's what Gemini has to say about it! I hope this helps:-

    =

    This is a classic bit of macOS "logic" that has tripped up many longtime
    users. Brock is actually touching on a subtle change in how the Go menu
    behaves relative to the Home folder's visibility settings.

    The Behavior Change

    Historically, the Library would show up in the Go menu only when you
    held the Option key. However, the logic has become a bit more
    "intelligent" (or confusing, depending on your perspective) in recent
    versions of macOS:

    The Standard Way: By default, Library is hidden. You hold Option, it
    appears in Go.
    +1

    The "Persistent" Way: If you go to your Home folder, open View Options
    (Command + J), and check Show Library Folder, the folder becomes
    permanently visible in your Home directory.

    The Menu Disappearance: In modern macOS (including Sequoia), once you
    have set the Library to be permanently visible in the Home folder, macOS
    often "promotes" it to a visible state in the file system but
    simultaneously hides it from the Go menu's Option-key shortcut.

    When did it change?
    While Apple doesn't always document these "quality of life" tweaks in
    release notes, this behavior began to surface more consistently around
    macOS Ventura and has carried through to Sonoma and Sequoia.

    The logic seems to be: If the user has explicitly chosen to show the
    Library folder in their Home directory, they no longer need a "hidden"
    shortcut to find it. Essentially, the Option-key trick in the Go menu is
    a "reveal" function; if there is nothing left to reveal because it's
    already visible, the menu item often doesn't trigger.

    Summary for Brock:
    Is he correct? Yes. If the Library is set to "Show" in the Home folder,
    it frequently stops appearing in the Go menu, even when holding Option.

    When did it change? The shift became prominent with the transition to
    macOS 13 (Ventura) and remains the case in macOS 15 (Sequoia).

    The Irony: To get the Library back in the Go menu via the Option key, he
    would actually have to go back into View Options and uncheck "Show
    Library Folder."

    It's one of those "helpful" Apple features where the system assumes that
    since you've made the folder a first-class citizen in your Home folder,
    you'll just click it there instead of using the menu bar.

    How to show the hidden Library folder
    This short video demonstrates the traditional method of using the Option
    key to reveal the Library folder, which serves as a helpful baseline for
    understanding when and why the menu behavior might change.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IQSnbtSVeU

    =

    HTH. EfOe

    Thanks. Assuming this is right I still had minor nit picky details wrong, but close enough. :)

    You are welcome. It might even have been you who, years ago, helped me
    find my way to the hidden Library files the first time I needed to go
    there! ;-)
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Apr 13 16:09:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Apr 13, 2026 at 8:59:20rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n44i6pFrs22U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 13/04/2026 16:42, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Apr 13, 2026 at 1:08:57rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n43mkpFnke4U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 13/04/2026 00:05, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    Do you know if I am correct about Library still showing in the menu
    (with Option) even if it was set to show in the Home folder? If so, when did
    it change?

    Here's what Gemini has to say about it! I hope this helps:-

    =

    This is a classic bit of macOS "logic" that has tripped up many longtime >>> users. Brock is actually touching on a subtle change in how the Go menu
    behaves relative to the Home folder's visibility settings.

    The Behavior Change

    Historically, the Library would show up in the Go menu only when you
    held the Option key. However, the logic has become a bit more
    "intelligent" (or confusing, depending on your perspective) in recent
    versions of macOS:

    The Standard Way: By default, Library is hidden. You hold Option, it
    appears in Go.
    +1

    The "Persistent" Way: If you go to your Home folder, open View Options
    (Command + J), and check Show Library Folder, the folder becomes
    permanently visible in your Home directory.

    The Menu Disappearance: In modern macOS (including Sequoia), once you
    have set the Library to be permanently visible in the Home folder, macOS >>> often "promotes" it to a visible state in the file system but
    simultaneously hides it from the Go menu's Option-key shortcut.

    When did it change?
    While Apple doesn't always document these "quality of life" tweaks in
    release notes, this behavior began to surface more consistently around
    macOS Ventura and has carried through to Sonoma and Sequoia.

    The logic seems to be: If the user has explicitly chosen to show the
    Library folder in their Home directory, they no longer need a "hidden"
    shortcut to find it. Essentially, the Option-key trick in the Go menu is >>> a "reveal" function; if there is nothing left to reveal because it's
    already visible, the menu item often doesn't trigger.

    Summary for Brock:
    Is he correct? Yes. If the Library is set to "Show" in the Home folder,
    it frequently stops appearing in the Go menu, even when holding Option.

    When did it change? The shift became prominent with the transition to
    macOS 13 (Ventura) and remains the case in macOS 15 (Sequoia).

    The Irony: To get the Library back in the Go menu via the Option key, he >>> would actually have to go back into View Options and uncheck "Show
    Library Folder."

    It's one of those "helpful" Apple features where the system assumes that >>> since you've made the folder a first-class citizen in your Home folder,
    you'll just click it there instead of using the menu bar.

    How to show the hidden Library folder
    This short video demonstrates the traditional method of using the Option >>> key to reveal the Library folder, which serves as a helpful baseline for >>> understanding when and why the menu behavior might change.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IQSnbtSVeU

    =

    HTH. EfOe

    Thanks. Assuming this is right I still had minor nit picky details wrong, but
    close enough. :)

    You are welcome. It might even have been you who, years ago, helped me
    find my way to the hidden Library files the first time I needed to go
    there! ;-)

    Sounds familiar. I know I have pointed a number of people there. Where I might have been slightly wrong is thinking there was a macOS version where you could both see it in the Home folder AND Option+Go showed it. Seems both changes happened at the same time.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed May 13 08:50:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 12/04/2026 04:25, Gremlin wrote:
    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> news:n3vjf9F453rU1@mid.individual.net[....]
    I don't accept that. He accepted my payment (just a short time ago)

    It doesn't matter if you accept it or not. The facts are still the same. You have attacked his software and him personally as well as his company, multiple times right here.

    Dustin,

    IrCOm happy to concede that my past criticism of EtreCheck has been sharp,
    and I accept that repeating suspicions can be wearying for the group.

    That said, I won't be intimidated. Your talk of legal teams, bankruptcy,
    and physical "curb stomping" is beneath the dignity of this forum. I
    have spent my working life in the Royal Navy and as an IFA; I am not
    easily rattled by Usenet threats, but I will call them what they are: inappropriate.

    You are a skilled developer, and IrCOve learned from you over the years.
    But that doesn't make your word the final law on what constitutes
    "stalking." I had a consumer disagreement regarding a paid licenserCo
    nothing more, nothing less.

    Let's lower the temperature. I have no interest in harassing anyone or
    pursuing legal vendettas. I will continue to post my opinions, but I
    will not be engaging with further abuse.

    Fair winds,

    rCo-
    David Brooks
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed May 13 13:53:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On May 13, 2026 at 12:50:33rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n6ioq9F7kucU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 12/04/2026 04:25, Gremlin wrote:
    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> news:n3vjf9F453rU1@mid.individual.net[....] >>> I don't accept that. He accepted my payment (just a short time ago)

    It doesn't matter if you accept it or not. The facts are still the same. You >> have attacked his software and him personally as well as his company,
    multiple times right here.

    Dustin,

    IrCOm happy to concede that my past criticism of EtreCheck has been sharp, and I accept that repeating suspicions can be wearying for the group.

    That said, I won't be intimidated. Your talk of legal teams, bankruptcy,
    and physical "curb stomping" is beneath the dignity of this forum. I
    have spent my working life in the Royal Navy and as an IFA; I am not
    easily rattled by Usenet threats, but I will call them what they are: inappropriate.

    You are a skilled developer, and IrCOve learned from you over the years.
    But that doesn't make your word the final law on what constitutes
    "stalking." I had a consumer disagreement regarding a paid licenserCo
    nothing more, nothing less.

    Let's lower the temperature. I have no interest in harassing anyone or pursuing legal vendettas. I will continue to post my opinions, but I
    will not be engaging with further abuse.

    Fair winds,

    rCo-
    David Brooks

    I do not fully disagree with Gremlin -- but he is far worse! Look at how he attacks me. He makes up the most insane lies (or accepts these lies from the likes of Carroll) and repeats them over and over. Driving record and legal issue nonsense, lack of business licenses or whatever... just utter fantasies on his part. And going FAR beyond anything you have ever done -- he paid for People Finder sites and doxxed not just me and my ex, but people who merely shared her last name but have no relation to me.

    He is crying you do a tiny, tiny fraction of what he does... and judging you but not himself.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed May 13 16:34:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 13/05/2026 14:53, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    [....]
    I do not fully disagree with Gremlin -- but he is far worse! Look at how he attacks me. He makes up the most insane lies (or accepts these lies from the likes of Carroll) and repeats them over and over. Driving record and legal issue nonsense, lack of business licenses or whatever... just utter fantasies on his part. And going FAR beyond anything you have ever done -- he paid for People Finder sites and doxxed not just me and my ex, but people who merely shared her last name but have no relation to me.

    He is crying you do a tiny, tiny fraction of what he does... and judging you but not himself.

    Whilst you are here, Brock ......

    Have you installed and run EtreCheck on your current Apple computer?

    If so, did you save the report?
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed May 13 17:09:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    David B. <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/05/2026 14:53, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    [....]
    I do not fully disagree with Gremlin -- but he is far worse! Look at how he >> attacks me. He makes up the most insane lies (or accepts these lies from the >> likes of Carroll) and repeats them over and over. Driving record and legal >> issue nonsense, lack of business licenses or whatever... just utter fantasies
    on his part. And going FAR beyond anything you have ever done -- he paid for >> People Finder sites and doxxed not just me and my ex, but people who merely >> shared her last name but have no relation to me.

    He is crying you do a tiny, tiny fraction of what he does... and judging you >> but not himself.

    Whilst you are here, Brock ......

    Have you installed and run EtreCheck on your current Apple computer?

    If so, did you save the report?


    Only the times werCOve talked about. DonrCOt know if I have any reports now.
    --
    Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
    cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
    somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

    They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed May 13 18:47:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 13/05/2026 18:09, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    David B. <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/05/2026 14:53, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    [....]
    I do not fully disagree with Gremlin -- but he is far worse! Look at how he >>> attacks me. He makes up the most insane lies (or accepts these lies from the
    likes of Carroll) and repeats them over and over. Driving record and legal >>> issue nonsense, lack of business licenses or whatever... just utter fantasies
    on his part. And going FAR beyond anything you have ever done -- he paid for
    People Finder sites and doxxed not just me and my ex, but people who merely >>> shared her last name but have no relation to me.

    He is crying you do a tiny, tiny fraction of what he does... and judging you
    but not himself.

    Whilst you are here, Brock ......

    Have you installed and run EtreCheck on your current Apple computer?

    If so, did you save the report?


    Only the times werCOve talked about. DonrCOt know if I have any reports now.


    Try using EasyFind to check. It a really good application.
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed May 13 17:54:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On May 13, 2026 at 10:47:09rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n6jrotF2dlkU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 13/05/2026 18:09, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    David B. <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/05/2026 14:53, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    [....]
    I do not fully disagree with Gremlin -- but he is far worse! Look at how he
    attacks me. He makes up the most insane lies (or accepts these lies from the
    likes of Carroll) and repeats them over and over. Driving record and legal >>>> issue nonsense, lack of business licenses or whatever... just utter fantasies
    on his part. And going FAR beyond anything you have ever done -- he paid for
    People Finder sites and doxxed not just me and my ex, but people who merely
    shared her last name but have no relation to me.

    He is crying you do a tiny, tiny fraction of what he does... and judging you
    but not himself.

    Whilst you are here, Brock ......

    Have you installed and run EtreCheck on your current Apple computer?

    If so, did you save the report?


    Only the times werCOve talked about. DonrCOt know if I have any reports now.


    Try using EasyFind to check. It a really good application.

    I have had EasyFind for years.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed May 13 21:12:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 13/05/2026 18:54, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On May 13, 2026 at 10:47:09rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n6jrotF2dlkU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 13/05/2026 18:09, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    David B. <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/05/2026 14:53, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    [....]
    I do not fully disagree with Gremlin -- but he is far worse! Look at how he
    attacks me. He makes up the most insane lies (or accepts these lies from the
    likes of Carroll) and repeats them over and over. Driving record and legal
    issue nonsense, lack of business licenses or whatever... just utter fantasies
    on his part. And going FAR beyond anything you have ever done -- he paid for
    People Finder sites and doxxed not just me and my ex, but people who merely
    shared her last name but have no relation to me.

    He is crying you do a tiny, tiny fraction of what he does... and judging you
    but not himself.

    Whilst you are here, Brock ......

    Have you installed and run EtreCheck on your current Apple computer?

    If so, did you save the report?


    Only the times werCOve talked about. DonrCOt know if I have any reports now.


    Try using EasyFind to check. It a really good application.

    I have had EasyFind for years.

    Great! Efya. Did it find EtreCheck?
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed May 13 22:04:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 13/05/2026 19:00, Steve Carroll wrote:
    On 2026-05-13, David B. <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/05/2026 18:09, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    David B. <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/05/2026 14:53, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    [....]
    I do not fully disagree with Gremlin -- but he is far worse! Look at how he
    attacks me. He makes up the most insane lies (or accepts these lies from the
    likes of Carroll) and repeats them over and over. Driving record and legal
    issue nonsense, lack of business licenses or whatever... just utter fantasies
    on his part. And going FAR beyond anything you have ever done -- he paid for
    People Finder sites and doxxed not just me and my ex, but people who merely
    shared her last name but have no relation to me.

    He is crying you do a tiny, tiny fraction of what he does... and judging you
    but not himself.

    Whilst you are here, Brock ......

    Have you installed and run EtreCheck on your current Apple computer?

    Oh brother... you never stop, do you?

    I've tried many, many, times to ignore this matter, but something keeps niggling away in my head!
    If so, did you save the report?


    Only the times werCOve talked about. DonrCOt know if I have any reports now.


    Try using EasyFind to check. It a really good application.

    Why bring more crap into your computer?

    Just use local tools like Spotlight, mdfind (uses Spotlight's index so
    it's fast) or grep to search for a 'telltale signature' of sorts:

    mdfind "EtreCheck version" (or whatever text is found in all EC
    reports). Surely you have 10 or 20 thousand reports laying around that
    you can give him text from ;)

    You are correct in thinking that I have, indeed, saved many EtreCheck
    reports - but they are in my "Notes" application.

    Here's a recent email exchange:-

    On 13 May 2026, at 20:25, ************ via groups.io <**********Cloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

    Hi David,

    IrCOve just tried EtreCheck for myself. It writes a report to User >
    Library > Application Support > Etrecheck and also makes it easy for you
    to save a copy to another location, with Documents as the default. Given
    that itrCOs easy enough to delete the first of those, is this really an issue?

    Would it be OK if the app simply made this clearer, or do you think
    there should be an option *not* to save the report anywhere?

    =

    I've responded with:-

    Hello *******

    Thank you so very much for helping to put my mind at ease! Efye

    My friend has confirmed that at the end (bottom) of the EtreCheck report
    there is a rCLtick-boxrCY which one completes if one wishes to keep a copy.
    If one doesnrCOt signify that the report is to be kept, one gets a warning
    to say that it will effectively be rCLlostrCY forever.

    May I ask why you looked in User > Library > Application Support > ?
    Did you do so simply because I had queried why it does so?
    Most macOS users, IrCOm sure, would never dream of looking there,
    especially having been warned that a copy of the report would be lost
    forever.

    Are you, too, not curious as to why reports are saved regardless of the tick-box instruction?

    David

    =

    I expect you have a logical answer. I'm more than willing to learn
    exactly what it is which I have misunderstood.

    Can YOU help?
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed May 13 23:47:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On May 13, 2026 at 1:12:57rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n6k4a9F3m9oU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 13/05/2026 18:54, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On May 13, 2026 at 10:47:09rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n6jrotF2dlkU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 13/05/2026 18:09, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    David B. <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/05/2026 14:53, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    [....]
    I do not fully disagree with Gremlin -- but he is far worse! Look at how he
    attacks me. He makes up the most insane lies (or accepts these lies from the
    likes of Carroll) and repeats them over and over. Driving record and legal
    issue nonsense, lack of business licenses or whatever... just utter fantasies
    on his part. And going FAR beyond anything you have ever done -- he paid for
    People Finder sites and doxxed not just me and my ex, but people who merely
    shared her last name but have no relation to me.

    He is crying you do a tiny, tiny fraction of what he does... and judging you
    but not himself.

    Whilst you are here, Brock ......

    Have you installed and run EtreCheck on your current Apple computer? >>>>>
    If so, did you save the report?


    Only the times werCOve talked about. DonrCOt know if I have any reports now.


    Try using EasyFind to check. It a really good application.

    I have had EasyFind for years.

    Great! Efya. Did it find EtreCheck?

    Did not look. As we have discussed, I have no interest in helping you with
    your focus on that software. It is harmful to you and others and not healthy. --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed May 13 23:47:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On May 13, 2026 at 2:04:50rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n6k7bjF45rjU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 13/05/2026 19:00, Steve Carroll wrote:
    On 2026-05-13, David B. <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/05/2026 18:09, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    David B. <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/05/2026 14:53, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    [....]
    I do not fully disagree with Gremlin -- but he is far worse! Look at how he
    attacks me. He makes up the most insane lies (or accepts these lies from the
    likes of Carroll) and repeats them over and over. Driving record and legal
    issue nonsense, lack of business licenses or whatever... just utter fantasies
    on his part. And going FAR beyond anything you have ever done -- he paid for
    People Finder sites and doxxed not just me and my ex, but people who merely
    shared her last name but have no relation to me.

    He is crying you do a tiny, tiny fraction of what he does... and judging you
    but not himself.

    Whilst you are here, Brock ......

    Have you installed and run EtreCheck on your current Apple computer?

    Oh brother... you never stop, do you?

    I've tried many, many, times to ignore this matter, but something keeps niggling away in my head!

    Even though you have repeatedly been told you cause harm you will not let it go. Have you considered getting assistance with this compulsion of yours? Not being snarky... I mean it -- this is not healthy.

    ...
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Kelly Phillips@KFile@podcasts.org.invalid to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed May 13 21:04:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Wed, 13 May 2026 22:04:50 +0100, "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk>
    wrote:

    On 13/05/2026 19:00, Steve Carroll wrote:
    On 2026-05-13, David B. <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/05/2026 18:09, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    David B. <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/05/2026 14:53, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    [....]
    I do not fully disagree with Gremlin -- but he is far worse! Look at how he
    attacks me. He makes up the most insane lies (or accepts these lies from the
    likes of Carroll) and repeats them over and over. Driving record and legal
    issue nonsense, lack of business licenses or whatever... just utter fantasies
    on his part. And going FAR beyond anything you have ever done -- he paid for
    People Finder sites and doxxed not just me and my ex, but people who merely
    shared her last name but have no relation to me.

    He is crying you do a tiny, tiny fraction of what he does... and judging you
    but not himself.

    Whilst you are here, Brock ......

    Have you installed and run EtreCheck on your current Apple computer?

    Oh brother... you never stop, do you?

    I've tried many, many, times to ignore this matter, but something keeps >niggling away in my head!

    Do you think it could be a parasite, like a worm, perhaps?

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu May 14 12:29:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 13/04/2026 17:09, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    Sounds familiar. I know I have pointed a number of people there. Where I might
    have been slightly wrong is thinking there was a macOS version where you could
    both see it in the Home folder AND Option+Go showed it. Seems both changes happened at the same time.

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/1183406320343214

    That describes YOUR brain perfectly! Efye
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu May 14 12:32:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 14/05/2026 03:04, Kelly Phillips wrote:
    On Wed, 13 May 2026 22:04:50 +0100, "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk>
    wrote:

    On 13/05/2026 19:00, Steve Carroll wrote:
    On 2026-05-13, David B. <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/05/2026 18:09, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    David B. <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/05/2026 14:53, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    [....]
    I do not fully disagree with Gremlin -- but he is far worse! Look at how he
    attacks me. He makes up the most insane lies (or accepts these lies from the
    likes of Carroll) and repeats them over and over. Driving record and legal
    issue nonsense, lack of business licenses or whatever... just utter fantasies
    on his part. And going FAR beyond anything you have ever done -- he paid for
    People Finder sites and doxxed not just me and my ex, but people who merely
    shared her last name but have no relation to me.

    He is crying you do a tiny, tiny fraction of what he does... and judging you
    but not himself.

    Whilst you are here, Brock ......

    Have you installed and run EtreCheck on your current Apple computer?

    Oh brother... you never stop, do you?

    I've tried many, many, times to ignore this matter, but something keeps
    niggling away in my head!

    Do you think it could be a parasite, like a worm, perhaps?
    No. THIS is the answer! https://www.facebook.com/reel/1183406320343214
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu May 14 13:26:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 14/05/2026 00:47, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On May 13, 2026 at 1:12:57rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    [....]
    Whilst you are here, Brock ......

    Have you installed and run EtreCheck on your current Apple computer? >>>>>>
    If so, did you save the report?

    Only the times werCOve talked about. DonrCOt know if I have any reports now.

    Try using EasyFind to check. It a really good application.

    I have had EasyFind for years.

    Great! Efya. Did it find EtreCheck?

    Did not look.

    A fine friend YOU turned out to be!!!! EfOa
    As we have discussed, I have no interest in helping you with
    your focus on that software. *It is harmful* to you and others []
    What makes *YOU* think that EtreCheck is harmful?

    I am seeking to confirm that it is NOT harmful.


    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu May 14 13:46:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On May 14, 2026 at 5:26:00rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n6ltaoFc880U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 14/05/2026 00:47, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On May 13, 2026 at 1:12:57rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    [....]
    Whilst you are here, Brock ......

    Have you installed and run EtreCheck on your current Apple computer? >>>>>>>
    If so, did you save the report?

    Only the times werCOve talked about. DonrCOt know if I have any reports now.

    Try using EasyFind to check. It a really good application.

    I have had EasyFind for years.

    Great! Efya. Did it find EtreCheck?

    Did not look.

    A fine friend YOU turned out to be!!!! EfOa

    A good friend is willing to tell you when you are wrong.

    As we have discussed, I have no interest in helping you with
    your focus on that software. *It is harmful* to you and others []

    What makes *YOU* think that EtreCheck is harmful?

    It is not. Your behavior is -- to yourself and others.

    I am seeking to confirm that it is NOT harmful.

    That is not an honest statement. You push the idea it is harmful, and you do
    so with no evidence. You harm yourself, the developer, and possibly others seeking to use the product.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu May 14 13:46:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On May 14, 2026 at 4:29:48rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n6lq1dFboieU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 13/04/2026 17:09, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    Sounds familiar. I know I have pointed a number of people there. Where I might
    have been slightly wrong is thinking there was a macOS version where you could
    both see it in the Home folder AND Option+Go showed it. Seems both changes >> happened at the same time.

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/1183406320343214

    That describes YOUR brain perfectly! Efye

    :)
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu May 14 16:34:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 14/05/2026 14:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On May 14, 2026 at 5:26:00rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n6ltaoFc880U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 14/05/2026 00:47, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On May 13, 2026 at 1:12:57rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    [....]
    Whilst you are here, Brock ......

    Have you installed and run EtreCheck on your current Apple computer? >>>>>>>>
    If so, did you save the report?

    Only the times werCOve talked about. DonrCOt know if I have any reports now.

    Try using EasyFind to check. It a really good application.

    I have had EasyFind for years.

    Great! Efya. Did it find EtreCheck?

    Did not look.

    A fine friend YOU turned out to be!!!! EfOa

    A good friend is willing to tell you when you are wrong.

    What is wrong with looking for a file using EasyFind?
    As we have discussed, I have no interest in helping you with
    your focus on that software. *It is harmful* to you and others []

    What makes *YOU* think that EtreCheck is harmful?

    It is not. Your behavior is -- to yourself and others.

    I apologise for teasing you! ;-)
    I am seeking to confirm that it is NOT harmful.

    That is not an honest statement. You push the idea it is harmful, and you do so with no evidence. You harm yourself, the developer, and possibly others seeking to use the product.

    Have you watched this verification YouTube video?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkl9EtbdBkc

    The only real change is that EtreCheck is *NOT* available from the Apple
    App Store. However, the developer now has another product in the store
    which helps to justify his credibility.
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu May 14 16:32:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On May 14, 2026 at 8:34:15rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n6m8bnFdunvU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 14/05/2026 14:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On May 14, 2026 at 5:26:00rC>AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    <n6ltaoFc880U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 14/05/2026 00:47, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On May 13, 2026 at 1:12:57rC>PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
    [....]
    Whilst you are here, Brock ......

    Have you installed and run EtreCheck on your current Apple computer? >>>>>>>>>
    If so, did you save the report?

    Only the times werCOve talked about. DonrCOt know if I have any reports now.

    Try using EasyFind to check. It a really good application.

    I have had EasyFind for years.

    Great! Efya. Did it find EtreCheck?

    Did not look.

    A fine friend YOU turned out to be!!!! EfOa

    A good friend is willing to tell you when you are wrong.

    What is wrong with looking for a file using EasyFind?

    Nothing. It is not wrong. YOU are for continuing to obsess over EtreCheck. I say this as a friend -- talk to a counselor, clergy, SOMEONE about your obsession here. It is causing you and others harm. You have had this issue for years and it is not getting better. If it was just a hobby that would be fine, but you harm the developer.

    As we have discussed, I have no interest in helping you with
    your focus on that software. *It is harmful* to you and others []

    What makes *YOU* think that EtreCheck is harmful?

    It is not. Your behavior is -- to yourself and others.

    I apologise for teasing you! ;-)

    Oh, that I have no issue with.

    I am seeking to confirm that it is NOT harmful.

    That is not an honest statement. You push the idea it is harmful, and you do >> so with no evidence. You harm yourself, the developer, and possibly others >> seeking to use the product.

    Have you watched this verification YouTube video?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkl9EtbdBkc

    The only real change is that EtreCheck is *NOT* available from the Apple
    App Store. However, the developer now has another product in the store
    which helps to justify his credibility.

    Please stop focusing on EtreCheck. It is not healthy for you. You keep this focus and you make bizarre claims like him having another product justifies
    his credibility, as if he owes you any justification for having a well respected product in the first place.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Fri May 15 03:34:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> news:n6ioq9F7kucU1@mid.individual.net
    Wed, 13 May 2026 07:50:33 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On 12/04/2026 04:25, Gremlin wrote:
    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk>
    news:n3vjf9F453rU1@mid.individual.net[....]
    I don't accept that. He accepted my payment (just a short time ago)

    It doesn't matter if you accept it or not. The facts are still the
    same. You have attacked his software and him personally as well as his
    company, multiple times right here.

    Dustin,

    IrCOm happy to concede that my past criticism of EtreCheck has been
    sharp, and I accept that repeating suspicions can be wearying for the
    group.

    sharp? David, your critism has always been unfounded. You've been
    repeatedly told that the program is legitimate. It doesn't give anyone
    remote access to your machine. It doesn't include malware. It doesn't
    download malware after you install it. The author has no responsibility to answer any question you ask that isn't directly related supporting the software. I went out of my way induldge you and that wasn't something I
    should have done. I believe the Etrecheck author learned from mistakes (courtesy of an email archive I sent them) and decided not to follow me
    down the same road; because nothing good would have come of it.

    That said, I won't be intimidated.

    I've made no effort to intimidate you. Further, you are also lying about
    this - You were more than slightly intimidated when usenet came into your
    real life and you had a discussion in person with your police about a 9mm handgun you threatened another poster with. You tried to evade them for sometime by remaining on the water. You even asked people on usenet if the emails the police sent wanting to meet and discuss an issue with you were true. So, enough with your bullshit big man chest thumping. It's nonsense.

    You are a skilled developer, and IrCOve learned from you over the years.

    I know. Which is another reason I bring up your dishonest nature when you support things snit writes that you know for an absolute fact are not true. Instead of setting him straight, you c/p his bullshit and otherwise keep
    your mouth shut.

    But that doesn't make your word the final law on what constitutes
    "stalking."

    I've never claimed my word did, David. However, your countries laws
    concerning it as well as mine are clear and anyone can look them up.
    Despite you repeatedly disagreeing, you *are a stalker*

    I had a consumer disagreement regarding a paid licenserCo
    nothing more, nothing less.

    Liar. You thought by purchasing a license that he was obligated to answer
    your emails that had nothing to do with supporting the software. You were upset that he wouldn't respond to such things. That's why you requested
    and recieved a re-fund the first time. His system should have been setup
    that refunds flag your account - a flagged account shouldn't be able to purchase the same license they already requested a refund for. You cost a small amount of funds in both directions when you purchase and when you refund. The author doesn't break even. They go in the hole when you pull
    that shit.

    Let's lower the temperature.

    Stop backing snits bullshit then. It would be different if you didn't know
    any better, but, you do! and you support it anyway. Not a good look, David. Not a good look at all.
    It's very close to pcbutts all over again. You supported that proven to be
    a code thief, too!
    --
    Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
    Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
    Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Fri May 15 04:18:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On May 14, 2026 at 8:34:28rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote <XnsB44CEFCFE92FEHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> news:n6ioq9F7kucU1@mid.individual.net
    Wed, 13 May 2026 07:50:33 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On 12/04/2026 04:25, Gremlin wrote:
    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk>
    news:n3vjf9F453rU1@mid.individual.net[....]
    I don't accept that. He accepted my payment (just a short time ago)

    It doesn't matter if you accept it or not. The facts are still the
    same. You have attacked his software and him personally as well as his
    company, multiple times right here.

    Dustin,

    IrCOm happy to concede that my past criticism of EtreCheck has been
    sharp, and I accept that repeating suspicions can be wearying for the
    group.

    sharp? David, your critism has always been unfounded.

    You are correct -- but a complete hypocrite. You make more accusations than he does. And you do things to attack he does not -- attacking people with lies about business licenses and driving records and legal issues. You dox people not even directly attached to your targets as just collateral damage.

    David is wrong. I am VERY open with him about my view there.

    But what you do is far, far worse.

    For you to whine about him just shows you are a hypocrite.

    ...
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun May 17 13:26:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 15/05/2026 04:34, Gremlin wrote:
    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> news:n6ioq9F7kucU1@mid.individual.net
    Wed, 13 May 2026 07:50:33 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On 12/04/2026 04:25, Gremlin wrote:
    "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk>
    news:n3vjf9F453rU1@mid.individual.net[....]
    I don't accept that. He accepted my payment (just a short time ago)

    It doesn't matter if you accept it or not. The facts are still the
    same. You have attacked his software and him personally as well as his
    company, multiple times right here.

    Dustin,

    IrCOm happy to concede that my past criticism of EtreCheck has been
    sharp, and I accept that repeating suspicions can be wearying for the
    group.

    sharp? David, your critism has always been unfounded. You've been
    repeatedly told that the program is legitimate. It doesn't give anyone
    remote access to your machine. It doesn't include malware. It doesn't download malware after you install it. The author has no responsibility to answer any question you ask that isn't directly related supporting the software. I went out of my way induldge you and that wasn't something I should have done. I believe the Etrecheck author learned from mistakes (courtesy of an email archive I sent them) and decided not to follow me
    down the same road; because nothing good would have come of it.

    You are also well aware that you should NOT have reverse engineered the EtreCheck product!

    I'd like to take up one specific point with you. Even if a product user
    elects to NOT save an EtreCheck report, a complete copy *IS* kept on the user's computer, hidden away where most folk will not find it.

    One of the features of EtreCheck is that when it is opened it will
    'phone home' to Etresoft to check for updates. By so doing it provides
    John Daniel the actual IP address of the user.

    You are well aware that unscrupulous characters can use that information
    to scan for open ports and, if found, can sneak into a computer unseen.

    That said, I won't be intimidated.

    I've made no effort to intimidate you. Further, you are also lying about
    this - You were more than slightly intimidated when usenet came into your real life and you had a discussion in person with your police about a 9mm handgun you threatened another poster with. You tried to evade them for sometime by remaining on the water. You even asked people on usenet if the emails the police sent wanting to meet and discuss an issue with you were true. So, enough with your bullshit big man chest thumping. It's nonsense.

    I don't dispute that I was once visited my local police. Many folk
    reading here will probably be unaware of that!
    You are a skilled developer, and IrCOve learned from you over the years.

    I know. Which is another reason I bring up your dishonest nature when you support things snit writes that you know for an absolute fact are not true. Instead of setting him straight, you c/p his bullshit and otherwise keep
    your mouth shut.

    I have no way of /knowing/ what is true and what is not.
    But that doesn't make your word the final law on what constitutes
    "stalking."

    I've never claimed my word did, David. However, your countries laws concerning it as well as mine are clear and anyone can look them up.
    Despite you repeatedly disagreeing, you *are a stalker*

    I am an *INVESTIGATOR*, Dustin Cook.

    I discovered that *YOU* were a *VIRUS WRITER*!!!!!!
    I had a consumer disagreement regarding a paid licenserCo
    nothing more, nothing less.

    Liar. You thought by purchasing a license that he was obligated to answer your emails that had nothing to do with supporting the software. You were upset that he wouldn't respond to such things. That's why you requested
    and recieved a re-fund the first time. His system should have been setup
    that refunds flag your account - a flagged account shouldn't be able to purchase the same license they already requested a refund for. You cost a small amount of funds in both directions when you purchase and when you refund. The author doesn't break even. They go in the hole when you pull
    that shit.

    The paid-for version is working well on my 2017 iMac - although it does
    *NOT* identify that the Fusion Drive is broken.
    Let's lower the temperature.

    Stop backing snits bullshit then. It would be different if you didn't know any better, but, you do! and you support it anyway. Not a good look, David. Not a good look at all.
    It's very close to pcbutts all over again. You supported that proven to be
    a code thief, too!

    Have you *ANY idea how hard it is to uncover the truth?
    --
    David
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