• 26.3 and Teams calls

    From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Feb 16 17:40:46 2026
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    Upgraded on Friday and now notice that the screensaver cuts in during Teams calls if idle when it never used to. Anyone else seeing this?
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Feb 17 08:22:06 2026
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    On 16.02.26 18:40, Chris wrote:


    Upgraded on Friday and now notice that the screensaver cuts in during Teams calls if idle when it never used to. Anyone else seeing this?

    No. I'll never use such $Microsoft$-crap in my private domain.
    There are Apple-solutions or even better FOSS.
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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  • From Alan B@alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Feb 17 08:49:53 2026
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    On 2026-02-17, J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    On 16.02.26 18:40, Chris wrote:


    Upgraded on Friday and now notice that the screensaver cuts in during Teams >> calls if idle when it never used to. Anyone else seeing this?

    No. I'll never use such $Microsoft$-crap in my private domain.
    There are Apple-solutions or even better FOSS.

    Yes but in the corporate world some users don't have a choice!
    --
    Cheers, Alan
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Feb 17 10:06:56 2026
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    On 17.02.26 09:49, Alan B wrote:
    On 2026-02-17, J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    On 16.02.26 18:40, Chris wrote:


    Upgraded on Friday and now notice that the screensaver cuts in during Teams >>> calls if idle when it never used to. Anyone else seeing this?

    No. I'll never use such $Microsoft$-crap in my private domain.
    There are Apple-solutions or even better FOSS.

    Yes but in the corporate world some users don't have a choice!

    That's exactly why I wrote private domain.
    If a company uses Teams so be it, it has to live with it and pay for it.
    But nevertheless there are some privacy issues to be considered at the
    employee level.
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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  • From David B.@David@hotmail.co.uk to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Feb 17 09:35:41 2026
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    On 17/02/2026 09:06, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
    On 17.02.26 09:49, Alan B wrote:
    On 2026-02-17, J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    On 16.02.26 18:40, Chris wrote:


    Upgraded on Friday and now notice that the screensaver cuts in during Teams
    calls if idle when it never used to. Anyone else seeing this?

    No. I'll never use such $Microsoft$-crap in my private domain.
    There are Apple-solutions or even better FOSS.

    Yes but in the corporate world some users don't have a choice!

    That's exactly why I wrote private domain.
    If a company uses Teams so be it, it has to live with it and pay for it.
    But nevertheless there are some privacy issues to be considered at the employee level.


    If it is on the Internet, it is not "private"!
    --
    Kind regards,
    David
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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Feb 17 13:33:54 2026
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    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-02-17, J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    On 16.02.26 18:40, Chris wrote:


    Upgraded on Friday and now notice that the screensaver cuts in during Teams >>> calls if idle when it never used to. Anyone else seeing this?

    No. I'll never use such $Microsoft$-crap in my private domain.
    There are Apple-solutions or even better FOSS.

    Yes but in the corporate world some users don't have a choice!

    Exactly. In the working world MS 365 tooling is pretty much ubiquitous.

    I have literally never had a Facetime call for work.

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  • From alanrichardbarker@alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid (Alan B) to uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Feb 17 14:51:31 2026
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    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-02-17, J%rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    On 16.02.26 18:40, Chris wrote:


    Upgraded on Friday and now notice that the screensaver cuts in during Teams
    calls if idle when it never used to. Anyone else seeing this?

    No. I'll never use such $Microsoft$-crap in my private domain.
    There are Apple-solutions or even better FOSS.

    Yes but in the corporate world some users don't have a choice!

    Exactly. In the working world MS 365 tooling is pretty much ubiquitous.

    Actually I've never used Teams!

    I have literally never had a Facetime call for work.

    I use Facetime occasionally for chats with my relatives.
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    Cheers, Alan
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  • From Chris Ridd@chrisridd@mac.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Mar 1 14:12:06 2026
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    On 17/02/2026 13:33, Chris wrote:
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-02-17, J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    On 16.02.26 18:40, Chris wrote:


    Upgraded on Friday and now notice that the screensaver cuts in during Teams
    calls if idle when it never used to. Anyone else seeing this?

    No. I'll never use such $Microsoft$-crap in my private domain.
    There are Apple-solutions or even better FOSS.

    Yes but in the corporate world some users don't have a choice!

    Exactly. In the working world MS 365 tooling is pretty much ubiquitous.

    Only partly, and only if you're a MS shop, and many places are not.
    Zoom's massively popular and very good. Google Meet is still popular.

    I have literally never had a Facetime call for work.

    Ditto.
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    Chris
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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Mar 1 16:08:46 2026
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    Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> wrote:
    On 17/02/2026 13:33, Chris wrote:
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-02-17, J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    On 16.02.26 18:40, Chris wrote:


    Upgraded on Friday and now notice that the screensaver cuts in during Teams
    calls if idle when it never used to. Anyone else seeing this?

    No. I'll never use such $Microsoft$-crap in my private domain.
    There are Apple-solutions or even better FOSS.

    Yes but in the corporate world some users don't have a choice!

    Exactly. In the working world MS 365 tooling is pretty much ubiquitous.

    Only partly, and only if you're a MS shop, and many places are not.
    Zoom's massively popular and very good. Google Meet is still popular.

    In my experience zoom is on the wane with Teams taking over. Several orgs
    have moved away from Zoom. Might be a reaction to their desire to train AI
    on meeting data. I'm seeing Teams > Zoom >> Google >> Amazon Chime.

    I have literally never had a Facetime call for work.

    Ditto.



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  • From Ian McCall@ian@eruvia.org to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Mar 1 21:42:21 2026
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    On 1 Mar 2026, Chris wrote
    (in article <10o1oae$c3g7$1@dont-email.me>):

    In my experience zoom is on the wane with Teams taking over. Several orgs have moved away from Zoom. Might be a reaction to their desire to train AI
    on meeting data. I'm seeing Teams > Zoom >> Google>> Amazon Chime.

    Agreed, but itrCOs more dull a reason than that I think. ItrCOs just
    Microsoft shoving it down their throat again with M365 licensing - why pay
    for two products that do similar things?

    The only people IrCOve ever used Chime with are people from Amazon
    themselves. I donrCOt think IrCOve ever used GooglerCOs meeting software, but suppose I might have done with a third party. Missing WebEx from the list, which holds on in corporate land but is on the decline as well.

    ItrCOs all for exactly the same rCLNice Windows license yourCOve got there, shame if something were to happen to itrCY situation in larger firms
    alongside rCLWerCOre already paying for M365 so why do we need anotherrCY. Throw in the fact it reinstalls itself every second Tuesday even on consumer gear (god I how hate the intrusion of work terminology into the real world) and yourCOve got the standard monopolistic tactic that worked for them so
    well in the past.

    Cheers,
    Ian


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Mar 2 07:45:03 2026
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    On 01.03.26 22:42, Ian McCall wrote:
    ItrCOs all for exactly the same rCLNice Windows license yourCOve got there, shame if something were to happen to itrCY situation in larger firms alongside rCLWerCOre already paying for M365 so why do we need anotherrCY. Throw in the fact it reinstalls itself every second Tuesday even on consumer gear (god I how hate the intrusion of work terminology into the real world) and yourCOve got the standard monopolistic tactic that worked for them so well in the past.

    I disagree. Why in the first place are people still so stupid to spend
    private money for such second rate software and an OS that is is a
    permanent nuisance to be extremely polite?

    Again: Companies can do what they want but they should not be suprised
    that in the B2C-domain people refuse to use such software that is not respecting privacy. That applies to all mentioned suppliers: Teams,
    Zoom, Google and Chime (I never heard about it).

    J||rg
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    "Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Mar 2 07:58:26 2026
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    On 02.03.26 07:45, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
    On 01.03.26 22:42, Ian McCall wrote:
    ItrCOs all for exactly the same rCLNice Windows license yourCOve got there, >> shame if something were to happen to itrCY situation in larger firms
    alongside rCLWerCOre already paying for M365 so why do we need anotherrCY. >> Throw in the fact it reinstalls itself every second Tuesday even on consumer
    gear (god I how hate the intrusion of work terminology into the real world) >> and yourCOve got the standard monopolistic tactic that worked for them so >> well in the past.

    I disagree. Why in the first place are people still so stupid to spend private money for such second rate software and an OS that is is a
    permanent nuisance to be extremely polite?

    Again: Companies can do what they want but they should not be suprised
    that in the B2C-domain people refuse to use such software that is not respecting privacy. That applies to all mentioned suppliers: Teams,
    Zoom, Google and Chime (I never heard about it).

    Open Source alternative software: https://jitsi.org/

    J||rg
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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  • From Ian McCall@ian@eruvia.org to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Mar 2 09:12:17 2026
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    On 2 Mar 2026, J||rg Lorenz wrote
    (in article <10o3blf$11mc7$1@solani.org>):

    On 01.03.26 22:42, Ian McCall wrote:
    ItrCOs all for exactly the same rCLNice Windows license yourCOve got there, shame if something were to happen to itrCY situation in larger firms alongside rCLWerCOre already paying for M365 so why do we need anotherrCY. Throw in the fact it reinstalls itself every second Tuesday even on consumer
    gear (god I how hate the intrusion of work terminology into the real world) and yourCOve got the standard monopolistic tactic that worked for them so well in the past.

    I disagree. Why in the first place are people still so stupid to spend private money for such second rate software and an OS that is is a
    permanent nuisance to be extremely polite?

    Again: Companies can do what they want but they should not be suprised
    that in the B2C-domain people refuse to use such software that is not respecting privacy. That applies to all mentioned suppliers: Teams,
    Zoom, Google and Chime (I never heard about it).

    J||rg

    Oh I donrCOt think werCOre disagreeing with each other - I donrCOt run
    Windows at all at home (not quite true: I have an install to boot into for firmware upgrades of devices that donrCOt support Macs or Windows, of which there are annoyingly many). Laptop is macOS, gaming machine is Linux
    (Bazzite) and NAS is Linux (Synology, though am eyeing up TrueNAS since my SynologyrCOs support ends end of this year. I donrCOt need rCOsupportrCO as such, just the odd security patch).

    But in the corporate end-user desktop world, itrCOs not controversial really to say that Windows and Office, notably Excel, are the norm. So companies
    just pay their license and want as much as they can out of it instead of buying the same thing twice. Quality is an afterthought - standard and cheap.

    B2C and straight-up consumer...WhatsApp primarily, Facebook Messenger is in there somewhere (IrCOm not on Facebook) and Facetime...somewhere. Not really in B2C at all, maybe in consumer calls. Since werCOre diverging slight on topic - I still think that every other messaging system has got it right by having chat, audio, video and contacts in the same app rather than the
    MacrCOs somewhat silly spread of Contacts, Messages, FaceTime and now Phone apps. Worse still when itrCOs obvious that Pbone is mildly reskinned
    FaceTime, to the point that you canrCOt even set the audio input mic in it - you have to go to rCLVideo settingsrCY in the FaceTime app to set it. Which is....yeah.

    Cheers,
    Ian


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  • From RJH@patchmoney@gmx.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Mar 2 14:04:54 2026
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    On 2 Mar 2026 at 09:12:17 GMT, Ian McCall wrote:

    On 2 Mar 2026, J||rg Lorenz wrote
    (in article <10o3blf$11mc7$1@solani.org>):

    On 01.03.26 22:42, Ian McCall wrote:
    ItrCOs all for exactly the same rCLNice Windows license yourCOve got there, >>> shame if something were to happen to itrCY situation in larger firms
    alongside rCLWerCOre already paying for M365 so why do we need anotherrCY. >>> Throw in the fact it reinstalls itself every second Tuesday even on consumer
    gear (god I how hate the intrusion of work terminology into the real world) >>> and yourCOve got the standard monopolistic tactic that worked for them so >>> well in the past.

    I disagree. Why in the first place are people still so stupid to spend
    private money for such second rate software and an OS that is is a
    permanent nuisance to be extremely polite?

    Again: Companies can do what they want but they should not be suprised
    that in the B2C-domain people refuse to use such software that is not
    respecting privacy. That applies to all mentioned suppliers: Teams,
    Zoom, Google and Chime (I never heard about it).

    J||rg

    Oh I donrCOt think werCOre disagreeing with each other - I donrCOt run Windows at all at home (not quite true: I have an install to boot into for firmware upgrades of devices that donrCOt support Macs or Windows, of which there are annoyingly many). Laptop is macOS, gaming machine is Linux (Bazzite)

    OoI, I'd happily go to Linux if it could run my Steam library games. I hadn't realised that it was a thing, and this thread prompted me to look at:

    https://store.steampowered.com/steamos

    I know very little about Linux and the various iterations. Might the Steam created version be a good idea for my use? I use the Windows machine for very little else.
    --
    Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK
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  • From Ian McCall@ian@eruvia.org to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Mar 2 15:40:16 2026
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    On 2 Mar 2026, RJH wrote
    (in article <10o45e6$16raj$1@dont-email.me>):


    OoI, I'd happily go to Linux if it could run my Steam library games. I hadn't realised that it was a thing, and this thread prompted me to look at:

    https://store.steampowered.com/steamos

    I know very little about Linux and the various iterations. Might the Steam created version be a good idea for my use? I use the Windows machine for very little else.

    Steam one is better for hand-held. There are two main desktop ones - Bazzite and CachyOS. Of those I went with Bazzite because itrCOs immutable, i.e. you canrCOt mess up the configuration particularly. Based on Fedora Kinorite,<https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/kinoite/>, with some pre-installed gaming stuff thrown in.

    If yourCOre into first person shooters, check that they donrCOt have kernel-level anti-cheat. That canrCOt work. Everything else IrCOve tried has worked with no bother, including setting up modding on games like Skyrim and Elder Scrolls Online.

    Check your games here:
    <https://www.protondb.com>

    Running under Linux is usually as simple as right-click->Properties->rCYUse a compatibility toolrCY and pick Proton-GE. ThatrCOs it, done.

    Thanks,
    Ian


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  • From RJH@patchmoney@gmx.com to uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Mar 2 19:22:03 2026
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    On 2 Mar 2026 at 15:40:16 GMT, Ian McCall wrote:

    On 2 Mar 2026, RJH wrote
    (in article <10o45e6$16raj$1@dont-email.me>):


    OoI, I'd happily go to Linux if it could run my Steam library games. I hadn't
    realised that it was a thing, and this thread prompted me to look at:

    https://store.steampowered.com/steamos

    I know very little about Linux and the various iterations. Might the Steam >> created version be a good idea for my use? I use the Windows machine for very
    little else.

    Steam one is better for hand-held. There are two main desktop ones - Bazzite and CachyOS. Of those I went with Bazzite because itrCOs immutable, i.e. you canrCOt mess up the configuration particularly. Based on Fedora Kinorite,<https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/kinoite/>, with some pre-installed gaming stuff thrown in.

    If yourCOre into first person shooters, check that they donrCOt have kernel-level anti-cheat. That canrCOt work. Everything else IrCOve tried has worked with no bother, including setting up modding on games like Skyrim and Elder Scrolls Online.

    Check your games here:
    <https://www.protondb.com>


    Yep, all good. Nothing too exotic, bit of Doom and old strategy games.

    Running under Linux is usually as simple as right-click->Properties->rCYUse a compatibility toolrCY and pick Proton-GE. ThatrCOs it, done.

    Brilliant, thanks, I shall be giving Bazzite a whirl.
    --
    Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK
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