What's the deal with 1P these days? I have the older, free version on my IntelI was a heavy user of 1Password for years. I switched to Passwords back
MBA (and iPhone), and while I mainly use Passwords now, I do access 1P every so often.
Moving everything to Sequoia/Silicon now... Looks like there's no more free 1P? Is my only option to migrate to Passwords completely (looks like I can export the data in there to Passwords) without paying for 1P? I have no problem with that - Passwords seems to be fit-for-use!
I was a heavy user of 1Password for years. I switched to Passwords back
in 2022 and haven't looked back. The browser integration is superior,
the auto-fill is far less annoying, and saves a few bucks. My experience
has been that 1Password will keep your data but adding/editing is
limited if you don't pay. Unless there are things in 1P that are not compatible with Passwords like documents you don't have another place
for. I would migrate out.
On 15 Feb 2026, Patrick wrote
(in article <10mtmig$eu1s$1@dont-email.me>):
I was a heavy user of 1Password for years. I switched to Passwords back
in 2022 and haven't looked back. The browser integration is superior,
the auto-fill is far less annoying, and saves a few bucks. My experience
has been that 1Password will keep your data but adding/editing is
limited if you don't pay. Unless there are things in 1P that are not
compatible with Passwords like documents you don't have another place
for. I would migrate out.
IrCOm a heavy user of 1Password and while IrCOve looked at Passwords, itrCOs not close for me at the moment. I pay for the family subscription.
I donrCOt think Passwords will ever be close, because I donrCOt think itrCOs aiming to be close. Passwords is for, well...passwords. 1Password can do a lot more than that - editable fields, extra sections, notes, different forms of generations, IDs...
For a pure username/password thing Passwords is mosty fine (unless you use Linux, which I do). If you use things more heavily then 1Passwords still has it soundly beaten...but at a cost, and yes the browser plugin is a bit more slick on Passwords.
Cheers,
Ian
On 2/15/26 2:52 PM, Mark wrote:
What's the deal with 1P these days? I have the older, free version on my IntelI was a heavy user of 1Password for years. I switched to Passwords back
MBA (and iPhone), and while I mainly use Passwords now, I do access 1P every >> so often.
Moving everything to Sequoia/Silicon now... Looks like there's no more free >> 1P? Is my only option to migrate to Passwords completely (looks like I can >> export the data in there to Passwords) without paying for 1P? I have no
problem with that - Passwords seems to be fit-for-use!
in 2022 and haven't looked back. The browser integration is superior,
the auto-fill is far less annoying, and saves a few bucks. My experience
has been that 1Password will keep your data but adding/editing is
limited if you don't pay. Unless there are things in 1P that are not compatible with Passwords like documents you don't have another place
for. I would migrate out.
What's the deal with 1P these days? I have the older, free version on my Intel
MBA (and iPhone), and while I mainly use Passwords now, I do access 1P every so often.
Moving everything to Sequoia/Silicon now... Looks like there's no more free 1P? Is my only option to migrate to Passwords completely (looks like I can export the data in there to Passwords) without paying for 1P? I have no problem with that - Passwords seems to be fit-for-use!
Patrick <fakefake89@madeup.com> wrote:
On 2/15/26 2:52 PM, Mark wrote:
What's the deal with 1P these days? I have the older, free version on my IntelI was a heavy user of 1Password for years. I switched to Passwords back
MBA (and iPhone), and while I mainly use Passwords now, I do access 1P every
so often.
Moving everything to Sequoia/Silicon now... Looks like there's no more free >>> 1P? Is my only option to migrate to Passwords completely (looks like I can >>> export the data in there to Passwords) without paying for 1P? I have no
problem with that - Passwords seems to be fit-for-use!
in 2022 and haven't looked back. The browser integration is superior,
the auto-fill is far less annoying, and saves a few bucks. My experience
has been that 1Password will keep your data but adding/editing is
limited if you don't pay. Unless there are things in 1P that are not
compatible with Passwords like documents you don't have another place
for. I would migrate out.
As far as I remember I donrCOt have anything else besides actual passwords in 1P. Besides everything else going on, I may migrate 1P over -for now- and then work on moving anything I donrCOt already have in Passwords over. Thanks.
However, if you did want a less costly alternative to 1P, then you could do
a lot worse than Bitwarden, which also works with Linux, and can be used reasonably well for free.
On 16 Feb 2026 at 11:47:20rC>am GMT, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
However, if you did want a less costly alternative to 1P, then you could do >> a lot worse than Bitwarden, which also works with Linux, and can be used
reasonably well for free.
+1 for BitWarden. Certainly not as slick as either Passwords or 1Password, but
I'm very happy with it.
The Zurich Institute of Technogy discovered severe security issues with Bitvarden and 1Password.
https://ethz.ch/en/news-and-events/eth-news/news/2026/02/password-managers-less-secure-than-promised.html
So they attacked a server which they'd intentionally misconfigured?
In article <mvj0bcFp7hmU1@mid.individual.net>,
TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
So they attacked a server which they'd intentionally misconfigured?
The point is that the supposed strength of the password managers is
that they don't have access to your plaintext passwords, so that it
shouldn't be possible to find passwords even by taking over the
company's servers.
On 17 Feb 2026 at 11:12:12rC>am GMT, "Richard Tobin" <Richard Tobin> wrote:
In article <mvj0bcFp7hmU1@mid.individual.net>,
TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
So they attacked a server which they'd intentionally misconfigured?
The point is that the supposed strength of the password managers is
that they don't have access to your plaintext passwords, so that it
shouldn't be possible to find passwords even by taking over the
company's servers.
Ah! Thanks.
TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
On 17 Feb 2026 at 11:12:12rC>am GMT, "Richard Tobin" <Richard Tobin> wrote: >>
In article <mvj0bcFp7hmU1@mid.individual.net>,
TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
So they attacked a server which they'd intentionally misconfigured?
The point is that the supposed strength of the password managers is
that they don't have access to your plaintext passwords, so that it
shouldn't be possible to find passwords even by taking over the
company's servers.
Ah! Thanks.
Hmm, yes, certainly of interest. Perhaps a better real world test would be more useful. Say, work with each company to see if they can actually breach the real servers. Of course, I am no expert here, but these are all well regarded password systems, if theyrCOre really not that secure, then what hope do we have.
All said, I have always been if theyrCOre really not opinion that if a criminal really wants something, they *will* get it eventually.
Perhaps itrCOs back to the old passwords in a notebook under the desk - or post-its around the monitor - kind of thing ;-).
On 2026-02-17, Andy H <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
Perhaps itrCOs back to the old passwords in a notebook under the desk - or >> post-its around the monitor - kind of thing ;-).
.... or on a note under a cushion on an armchair. The trouble was that Mrs B found it, didn't know what it was and threw into the bin.
Perhaps itrCOs back to the old passwords in a notebook under the desk - or post-its around the monitor - kind of thing ;-).
On 17 Feb 2026 at 9:03:43rC>pm GMT, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
Perhaps itrCOs back to the old passwords in a notebook under the desk - or >> post-its around the monitor - kind of thing ;-).
That's funny - I saw this the other day:
"security advice, 1996: writing your passwords down in a notebook is a very bad idea and nobody should do it
security advice, 2026: writing your passwords down in a notebook is one of the
most secure storage methods for most users
(fun how threat models change over time, eh?)"
TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
On 17 Feb 2026 at 9:03:43rC>pm GMT, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
Perhaps itrCOs back to the old passwords in a notebook under the desk - or >>> post-its around the monitor - kind of thing ;-).
That's funny - I saw this the other day:
"security advice, 1996: writing your passwords down in a notebook is a very >> bad idea and nobody should do it
security advice, 2026: writing your passwords down in a notebook is one of the
most secure storage methods for most users
(fun how threat models change over time, eh?)"
ROFLOL, yup.
Not only that, IrCOm currently listening to a 48 year old Rick Wakeman album on a 49 year old Technics turntable, with its similarly aged cartridge, through a 44 year old amplifier.
And yes, it does sound better! (Or at least I find the listening experience more enjoyable).
On 2026-02-17, Andy H <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
Perhaps itrCOs back to the old passwords in a notebook under the desk - or >> post-its around the monitor - kind of thing ;-).
.... or on a note under a cushion on an armchair. The trouble was that Mrs B found it, didn't know what it was and threw into the bin.
On 17 Feb 2026 at 9:03:43rC>pm GMT, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
Perhaps itrCOs back to the old passwords in a notebook under the desk - or >> post-its around the monitor - kind of thing ;-).
That's funny - I saw this the other day:
"security advice, 1996: writing your passwords down in a notebook is a very bad idea and nobody should do it
security advice, 2026: writing your passwords down in a notebook is one of the
most secure storage methods for most users
(fun how threat models change over time, eh?)"
On 18 Feb 2026 at 2:49:27rC>pm GMT, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
On 17 Feb 2026 at 9:03:43rC>pm GMT, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
Perhaps itrCOs back to the old passwords in a notebook under the desk - or >>>> post-its around the monitor - kind of thing ;-).
That's funny - I saw this the other day:
"security advice, 1996: writing your passwords down in a notebook is a very >>> bad idea and nobody should do it
security advice, 2026: writing your passwords down in a notebook is one of the
most secure storage methods for most users
(fun how threat models change over time, eh?)"
ROFLOL, yup.
Not only that, IrCOm currently listening to a 48 year old Rick Wakeman album >> on a 49 year old Technics turntable, with its similarly aged cartridge,
through a 44 year old amplifier.
And yes, it does sound better! (Or at least I find the listening experience >> more enjoyable).
Oh I do miss LP sleeves (no space for a turntable at the moment, though the records are stashed away). Still streaming through 50-year old speakers though! Well, 50 in a ship-of-Theseus way: I think all the cones have been replaced at some point.
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