• "Evolution" (BBC)

    From Kempshott@kempshott@invalid.uk to talk-origins on Wed Jul 15 12:25:51 2026
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002yyzg

    A new series from the BBC Natural History unit. Chris Packham steps comfortably into Sir David Attenborough's shoes presenting a mix of
    (fabulous as ever) wildlife footage plus some OKish CGI.

    Nice to live in a country where such a subject is totally non-controversial.

    - Kempshott

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  • From Dale@dalekellytoo@gmail.com to talk-origins on Wed Jul 15 10:23:32 2026
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    On 7/15/2026 7:25 AM, Kempshott wrote:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002yyzg

    A new series from the BBC Natural History unit. Chris Packham steps comfortably into Sir David Attenborough's shoes presenting a mix of (fabulous as ever) wildlife footage plus some OKish CGI.

    Nice to live in a country where such a subject is totally non- controversial.

    - Kempshott


    evolution has to start with a determinism beforehand ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

    if it comes from nowhere then nowhere would have to be deterministic ?

    what would nowhere have to work with ?

    induction?

    deduction?

    and/or? or/and?

    hypothesis?

    theory?

    statistical assumption for test?
    --
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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Wed Jul 15 09:41:27 2026
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    On 7/15/2026 9:23 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/15/2026 7:25 AM, Kempshott wrote:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002yyzg

    A new series from the BBC Natural History unit. Chris Packham steps
    comfortably into Sir David Attenborough's shoes presenting a mix of
    (fabulous as ever) wildlife footage plus some OKish CGI.

    Nice to live in a country where such a subject is totally non-
    controversial.

    - Kempshott


    evolution has to start with a determinism beforehand ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

    if it comes from nowhere then nowhere would have to be deterministic ?

    what would nowhere have to work with ?

    induction?

    deduction?

    and/or? or/and?

    hypothesis?

    theory?

    statistical assumption for test?



    It isn't deterministic in the way that you want to fool yourself about.
    It is just what happened during the evolution of life on earth. What
    was the deterministic reason for life to be restricted to microbial
    lifeforms for over 2 billion years? It took a long time for the genes
    needed to evolve multicellular life to evolve and interact to be able to evolve multicellular lifeforms where the cells communicate and depend on
    each other to reproduce.

    There is the concept where what evolution that has already happened will restrict what evolution is possible for that lineage in the future, but
    that is just due to the fact that all future evolution has to work
    within the system that is already working. Any evolution that disrupts
    the normal function is usually deleterious and will be selected against.

    Ron Okimoto

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