• Is AI ruining our skills?

    From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Sat Jun 20 19:15:50 2026
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    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-01947-1

    Nature has a news article up where AI use may be messing with medical
    doctor skills. After using AI diagnostic tools a study found that
    doctor's diagnostic ability was degraded a significant amount when the
    the AI diagnostic tool was not available.

    The sad thing is that if the study conclusions are correct the doctors misdiagnosed 6% of the colonoscopies as not having precancerous lesions
    (they missed lesions that they should have detected) when they did not
    have the AI available to them.

    This is likely going to be the case for everything that AI is being used
    for. Big companies are removing a lot of their middle managers that
    would have directed employees in their everyday jobs, and now AI is
    being used to have fewer managers reliant on AI to manage employees and
    make sure that they are doing what the company expects them to be doing.

    Calculators demonstrated that this was going to be the case. How many
    kids graduate high school that can make change in their heads?

    What have word processors done for hand writing skills? Students are
    using AI to write their essays and do their homework. How should a
    teacher assess if the students understand what the AI has produced for them?

    Recently, I have used AI to assess the ID creationist scam, and so has
    MarkE. It is obvious that AI doesn't do a very good job in terms of
    analysis of what the ID scam actually is, and does not accurately
    describe what the ID perps have been doing for decades. A user has to
    already understand what the AI gets wrong in order to get the AI to
    correct it's analysis. The AI can correctly reanalyze the data, and can
    put up the correct references that can be used to validate the corrected answer, so it has access to what it needs, but it doesn't fully utilize
    the existing data.

    Things will get better in terms of AI's analytical ability, but use of
    AI will likely make it less likely that the users will be able to detect
    when the AI is misleading them.

    It isn't a rogue AI that will take over the world and control human
    behavior, but humans will likely become dependent on AI to manage their
    lives because they lack the skills to manage their lives themselves.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to talk-origins on Sun Jun 21 20:02:36 2026
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    On 6/20/26 8:15 PM, RonO wrote:
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-01947-1

    Nature has a news article up where AI use may be messing with medical
    doctor skills.

    "May?"

    HA!

    The lawyers on BOTH SIDES, four attorneys, and they were all thrown
    off the case for using A.I. complete with its trademark lies...

    https://youtu.be/-4AiC5oRnl0?si=HD9OiCltrj4zhZY0

    At best, A.I. plagiarizes. At best. At its worst it makes shit up.

    Why would medicine be immune? HOW could medicine be immune?
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    https://jtem.tumblr.com/

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Tue Jun 30 16:46:26 2026
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    On 6/20/2026 7:15 PM, RonO wrote:
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-01947-1

    Nature has a news article up where AI use may be messing with medical
    doctor skills.-a After using AI diagnostic tools a study found that
    doctor's diagnostic ability was degraded a significant amount when the
    the AI diagnostic tool was not available.

    The sad thing is that if the study conclusions are correct the doctors misdiagnosed 6% of the colonoscopies as not having precancerous lesions (they missed lesions that they should have detected) when they did not
    have the AI available to them.

    This is likely going to be the case for everything that AI is being used for.-a Big companies are removing a lot of their middle managers that
    would have directed employees in their everyday jobs, and now AI is
    being used to have fewer managers reliant on AI to manage employees and
    make sure that they are doing what the company expects them to be doing.

    Calculators demonstrated that this was going to be the case.-a How many
    kids graduate high school that can make change in their heads?

    What have word processors done for hand writing skills?-a Students are
    using AI to write their essays and do their homework.-a How should a
    teacher assess if the students understand what the AI has produced for
    them?

    Recently, I have used AI to assess the ID creationist scam, and so has MarkE.-a It is obvious that AI doesn't do a very good job in terms of analysis of what the ID scam actually is, and does not accurately
    describe what the ID perps have been doing for decades.-a A user has to already understand what the AI gets wrong in order to get the AI to
    correct it's analysis.-a The AI can correctly reanalyze the data, and can put up the correct references that can be used to validate the corrected answer, so it has access to what it needs, but it doesn't fully utilize
    the existing data.

    Things will get better in terms of AI's analytical ability, but use of
    AI will likely make it less likely that the users will be able to detect when the AI is misleading them.

    It isn't a rogue AI that will take over the world and control human behavior, but humans will likely become dependent on AI to manage their lives because they lack the skills to manage their lives themselves.

    Ron Okimoto


    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ai-making-people-dull-study/

    https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.02910

    Some researchers are claiming that reliance on AI will reduce the distinctiveness and diversity of someone's behavior. AI recommendations
    force people into a "mean" behavior. AI recommends a path that most
    people may have chosen.

    These guys seem to be warning about what I claimed above where it won't
    be a rogue AI that takes over the world and controls human behavior, but humans will likely become dependent on AI to manage their lives.
    Organized religion should be trying to get a step up on the AI as direct competition. Just look at how MarkE and Sticks just want to be lied to
    about reality. Religious people like them are likely the most vunerable.

    Ron Okimoto

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