• African ancestry in white (European) Americans

    From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Wed May 20 21:56:21 2026
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    I just watched an episode of Finding your Roots and Rosanne Cash and
    Clint Black were both found to have had African slave ancestors.
    Neither was aware of such ancestors. James Watson was found to have
    around 16% African DNA in his genome. It turns out that around 3.5% of
    people that consider themselves to be white have some African ancestry (greater than 1% African DNA). It takes 5 generations or more to get
    down to this level, so a lot of these matings occurred before the Civil
    War. The rate goes up to 13% of the white population in states that had
    the largest slave populations like Louisiana.

    I had not thought of this before, but 23 and Me provide a breakdown of
    where your DNA comes from, and millions have that information.
    Population genetics has always published on how much European DNA is in
    the African American population, and I do not recall anyone dealing with
    the percentage of African DNA in other racial groups.

    Any wannabe eugenicist have their work cut out for them. I can imagine
    the Klan and neo-Nazis requiring genotypes for their members.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to talk-origins on Thu May 21 13:41:10 2026
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    RonO wrote:
    I just watched an episode of Finding your Roots and Rosanne Cash and
    Clint Black were both found to have had African slave ancestors. Neither
    was aware of such ancestors.-a James Watson was found to have around 16% African DNA in his genome.-a It turns out that around 3.5% of people that consider themselves to be white have some African ancestry (greater than
    1% African DNA).-a It takes 5 generations or more to get down to this
    level, so a lot of these matings occurred before the Civil War.-a The
    rate goes up to 13% of the white population in states that had the
    largest slave populations like Louisiana.

    I had not thought of this before, but 23 and Me provide a breakdown of
    where your DNA comes from, and millions have that information.
    Population genetics has always published on how much European DNA is in
    the African American population, and I do not recall anyone dealing with
    the percentage of African DNA in other racial groups.

    Any wannabe eugenicist have their work cut out for them.-a I can imagine
    the Klan and neo-Nazis requiring genotypes for their members.


    Decades ago someone pointed out to an Afrikaner that the early settlers
    had not infrequently married natives, and that he was probably descended
    to some degree from black people.

    He did not reject the idea, as I would have expected, but said:

    "Well, I hope at least they were Zulu".


    William Hyde

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Thu May 21 17:51:21 2026
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    On 5/21/2026 12:41 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    RonO wrote:
    I just watched an episode of Finding your Roots and Rosanne Cash and
    Clint Black were both found to have had African slave ancestors.
    Neither was aware of such ancestors.-a James Watson was found to have
    around 16% African DNA in his genome.-a It turns out that around 3.5%
    of people that consider themselves to be white have some African
    ancestry (greater than 1% African DNA).-a It takes 5 generations or
    more to get down to this level, so a lot of these matings occurred
    before the Civil War.-a The rate goes up to 13% of the white population
    in states that had the largest slave populations like Louisiana.

    I had not thought of this before, but 23 and Me provide a breakdown of
    where your DNA comes from, and millions have that information.
    Population genetics has always published on how much European DNA is
    in the African American population, and I do not recall anyone dealing
    with the percentage of African DNA in other racial groups.

    Any wannabe eugenicist have their work cut out for them.-a I can
    imagine the Klan and neo-Nazis requiring genotypes for their members.


    Decades ago someone pointed-a out to an Afrikaner that the early settlers had not infrequently married natives, and that he was probably descended
    to some degree from black people.

    He did not reject the idea, as I would have expected, but said:

    "Well, I hope at least they were Zulu".


    William Hyde


    Google claims that an Afrikaner study found 98.7% of white South
    Africans had mixed non European DNA in their genomes (Asian and
    African). 96% had Khoisan (indigenous Khoe-San) DNA and averaged 1.3%
    African ancestry. The paper cited estimated that there was a single
    admixture event (They do not estimate how many individuals were
    involved) 9.3 generations ago. There were only 77 Afrikaner individuals
    in the study, so a larger population sampling could change the
    percentages. Inference is that only 1 individual did not have Asian or African DNA in their genome and 74 had Khoe-San DNA. The European
    population colonized South Africa in the late 17th century.

    Research paper:
    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7038537/

    Ron Okimoto

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