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THE COSMOLOGICAL MODEL OF ETERNAL INFLATION AND THE TRANSITION FROM
CHANCE TO BIOLOGICAL EVOLUTION IN THE HISTORY OF LIFE.

"Origin of life is a chicken and egg problem: for biological evolution
that is governed, primarily, by natural selection, to take off,
efficient systems for replication and translation are required, but even barebones cores of these systems appear to be products of extensive selection."

"The currently favored (partial) solution is an RNA world without
proteins in which replication is catalyzed by ribozymes and which serves
as the cradle for the translation system. However, the RNA world faces
its own hard problems as ribozyme-catalyzed RNA replication remains a hypothesis and the selective pressures behind the origin of translation
remain mysterious."

"The crucial question, then, is how was the minimal complexity attained
that is required to achieve the threshold replication fidelity. In even
the simplest modern systems, such as RNA viruses with the replication
fidelity of only ~10-3, replication is catalyzed by a complex protein replicase; even disregarding accessory subunits present in most
replicases, the main catalytic subunit is a protein that consists of at
least 300 amino acids. The replicase, of course, is produced by
translation of the respective mRNA which is mediated by a tremendously
complex molecular machinery. Hence the first paradox of OORT: to attain
the minimal complexity required for a biological system to start on the
path of biological evolution, a system of a far greater complexity,
i.e., a highly evolved one, appears to be required. How such a system
could evolve, is a puzzle that defeats conventional evolutionary thinking."

"The second paradox of OORT pertains to the origin of the translation
system from within the RNA world via a Darwinian evolutionary process:
until the translation system produces functional proteins, there is no
obvious selective advantage to the evolution of any parts of this
elaborate (even in its most primitive form) molecular machine."

"Despite considerable experimental and theoretical effort, no compelling scenarios currently exist for the origin of replication and translation,
the key processes that together comprise the core of biological systems
and the apparent pre-requisite of biological evolution. The RNA World
concept might offer the best chance for the resolution of this conundrum
but so far cannot adequately account for the emergence of an efficient
RNA replicase or the translation system."

"The MWO version of the cosmological model of eternal inflation could
suggest a way out of this conundrum because, in an infinite multiverse
with a finite number of distinct macroscopic histories (each repeated an infinite number of times), emergence of even highly complex systems by
chance is not just possible but inevitable."

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/1745-6150-2-15

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"Whoa-hoh-oh, the gaps are gettin' bigger
Yeah-eah, mmm they're gettin' bigger"

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On 4/15/2026 5:56 PM, MarkE wrote:

THE COSMOLOGICAL MODEL OF ETERNAL INFLATION AND THE TRANSITION FROM
CHANCE TO BIOLOGICAL EVOLUTION IN THE HISTORY OF LIFE.

"Origin of life is a chicken and egg problem: for biological evolution
that is governed, primarily, by natural selection, to take off,
efficient systems for replication and translation are required, but even barebones cores of these systems appear to be products of extensive selection."

"The currently favored (partial) solution is an RNA world without
proteins in which replication is catalyzed by ribozymes and which serves
as the cradle for the translation system. However, the RNA world faces
its own hard problems as ribozyme-catalyzed RNA replication remains a hypothesis and the selective pressures behind the origin of translation remain mysterious."

"The crucial question, then, is how was the minimal complexity attained
that is required to achieve the threshold replication fidelity. In even
the simplest modern systems, such as RNA viruses with the replication fidelity of only ~10-3, replication is catalyzed by a complex protein replicase; even disregarding accessory subunits present in most
replicases, the main catalytic subunit is a protein that consists of at least 300 amino acids. The replicase, of course, is produced by
translation of the respective mRNA which is mediated by a tremendously complex molecular machinery. Hence the first paradox of OORT: to attain
the minimal complexity required for a biological system to start on the
path of biological evolution, a system of a far greater complexity,
i.e., a highly evolved one, appears to be required. How such a system
could evolve, is a puzzle that defeats conventional evolutionary thinking."

"The second paradox of OORT pertains to the origin of the translation
system from within the RNA world via a Darwinian evolutionary process:
until the translation system produces functional proteins, there is no obvious selective advantage to the evolution of any parts of this
elaborate (even in its most primitive form) molecular machine."

"Despite considerable experimental and theoretical effort, no compelling scenarios currently exist for the origin of replication and translation,
the key processes that together comprise the core of biological systems
and the apparent pre-requisite of biological evolution. The RNA World concept might offer the best chance for the resolution of this conundrum
but so far cannot adequately account for the emergence of an efficient
RNA replicase or the translation system."

"The MWO version of the cosmological model of eternal inflation could suggest a way out of this conundrum because, in an infinite multiverse
with a finite number of distinct macroscopic histories (each repeated an infinite number of times), emergence of even highly complex systems by chance is not just possible but inevitable."

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/1745-6150-2-15

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"Whoa-hoh-oh, the gaps are gettin' bigger
-aYeah-eah, mmm they're gettin' bigger"

Are you having a nervous breakdown? Why are you acting so juvenile and
nutty?

I just told you that origin of life researchers are not the sharpest
tools in the shed. This paper just puts out the obvious claim that if
the multiverse option that they describe in the paper is the one that is working in our universe then everything that can happen does happen.
There could be a lesser infinity of universes like ours where life arose
and would result in evolving lifeforms that could comprehend that life
had to have some type of origin. They might be relatively rare compared
to the greater infinity of universes that never produced any life, but
some such universes would likely exist. The origin that did occur,
however unlikely, is still not consistent with your Biblical Beliefs.
You lose no matter what.

What you need to do is check out the paper to see if it spawned any significant interest in the origin of life community. If you find the
paper in pubMed you will find that it has only been cited 14 times since
2007. This means that only a few thought to mention the work in their
related research. It obviously has not had a very large impact because
it just states the obvious. It isn't a novel or earth shattering paper
that has spawned a significant amount of research. It likely did better
than anything that the ID perps have ever written in this regard, but it
did not spark a lot of interest. Very few researchers needed it to be published. To really get an idea whether the paper spawned any positive research you would need to read the papers that cited the paper. It
might be that they cited the paper to disagree with it. The example of
Behe is a case in point. The Black Box is supposed to have been cited
over 3,000 times, but nearly all those citations are likely claiming
that the book is wrong about what Behe is claiming. There are likely
very few researchers that used to book to accomplish anything positive
in terms of support for Behe's notions. What can you do with untestable claims? Even Behe has never been able to verify the junk in the book.
Behe's type of IC (could not have evolved by natural mechanisms) was
never verified to exist in nature. Once Behe admitted that some IC
systems could evolve by natural mechanisms, IC died. Behe was never
able to demonstrate that his type of IC systems existed in nature.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17540027/
"cited by" is on the right hand menu.

Ron Okimoto

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