• Re: Catholisism; was geography, was geocentrisism, nothing about : Re: Chimp to human evolution - Sandwalk perspective

    From jillery@69jpil69@gmail.com to talk-origins on Mon Apr 27 03:56:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 07:51:53 +0100, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 22:29:04 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 22/03/2026 05:33, jillery wrote:

    [...]


    Recently Harran outed herself as transgender.

    When did that she do that and why does it matter?
    Since you asked, because Harran likes to make claims about my gender.
    You're welcome.
    I didn't,
    Perhaps not intentionally, but of course you did: *****************************************
    On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 18:47:45 +0000, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:
    Now you are starting to sound like she-who-must-always-have-the-last
    word ;)
    *****************************************
    Given how much time you spent trying to get the last word with
    Harshman, there's nobody but yourself you reasonably refer to.
    it's just a typical blatant lie by Jillery who works on the
    basis that if enough mud is thrown at someone, some of it might
    eventually stick. The fact that Jillery regards made-up claims about
    someone being transgender as suitable mud really tells you all you
    need to know about Jillery's attitude towards transgender people.
    The above is the just the latest instance of you accusing me of doing
    what you do. For someone who claims to ignore my posts (not often
    enough), you sure do pretend to know what I post.
    I don't expect you to back up any of your spittle-dripping venom.
    After all, NeverAnswersQuestions is another well-deserved sobriquet.
    But perhaps someday you will explain to Curious why you think calling
    yourself transgender deserves such an emotional and overwrought
    reaction.
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  • From Curious@nospam@spam.com to talk-origins on Wed Apr 29 13:42:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 27/04/2026 08:56, jillery wrote:
    On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 07:51:53 +0100, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 22:29:04 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 22/03/2026 05:33, jillery wrote:

    [...]


    Recently Harran outed herself as transgender.

    When did that she do that and why does it matter?


    Since you asked, because Harran likes to make claims about my gender.
    You're welcome.


    I didn't,


    Perhaps not intentionally, but of course you did: *****************************************
    On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 18:47:45 +0000, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    Now you are starting to sound like she-who-must-always-have-the-last
    word ;)
    *****************************************
    Given how much time you spent trying to get the last word with
    Harshman, there's nobody but yourself you reasonably refer to.


    Sorry, I can't see how that is Harran outing him or herself as
    transgender. Can you explain?



    it's just a typical blatant lie by Jillery who works on the
    basis that if enough mud is thrown at someone, some of it might
    eventually stick. The fact that Jillery regards made-up claims about
    someone being transgender as suitable mud really tells you all you
    need to know about Jillery's attitude towards transgender people.


    The above is the just the latest instance of you accusing me of doing
    what you do. For someone who claims to ignore my posts (not often
    enough), you sure do pretend to know what I post.

    I don't expect you to back up any of your spittle-dripping venom.
    After all, NeverAnswersQuestions is another well-deserved sobriquet.
    But perhaps someday you will explain to Curious why you think calling yourself transgender deserves such an emotional and overwrought
    reaction.


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  • From Curious@nospam@spam.com to talk-origins on Wed Apr 29 13:40:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 27/04/2026 08:56, jillery wrote:
    On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 07:51:53 +0100, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 22:29:04 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 22/03/2026 05:33, jillery wrote:

    [...]


    Recently Harran outed herself as transgender.

    When did that she do that and why does it matter?


    Since you asked, because Harran likes to make claims about my gender.
    You're welcome.


    I didn't,


    Perhaps not intentionally, but of course you did: *****************************************
    On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 18:47:45 +0000, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    Now you are starting to sound like she-who-must-always-have-the-last
    word ;)
    *****************************************
    Given how much time you spent trying to get the last word with
    Harshman, there's nobody but yourself you reasonably refer to.


    Sorry, I can't see how that is Harran outing him or herself. Can you
    explain?


    it's just a typical blatant lie by Jillery who works on the
    basis that if enough mud is thrown at someone, some of it might
    eventually stick. The fact that Jillery regards made-up claims about
    someone being transgender as suitable mud really tells you all you
    need to know about Jillery's attitude towards transgender people.


    The above is the just the latest instance of you accusing me of doing
    what you do. For someone who claims to ignore my posts (not often
    enough), you sure do pretend to know what I post.

    I don't expect you to back up any of your spittle-dripping venom.
    After all, NeverAnswersQuestions is another well-deserved sobriquet.
    But perhaps someday you will explain to Curious why you think calling yourself transgender deserves such an emotional and overwrought
    reaction.


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  • From Martin Harran@martinharran@gmail.com to talk-origins on Wed Apr 29 16:56:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 13:42:20 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 27/04/2026 08:56, jillery wrote:
    On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 07:51:53 +0100, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 22:29:04 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 22/03/2026 05:33, jillery wrote:

    [...]


    Recently Harran outed herself as transgender.

    When did that she do that and why does it matter?


    Since you asked, because Harran likes to make claims about my gender.
    You're welcome.


    I didn't,


    Perhaps not intentionally, but of course you did:
    *****************************************
    On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 18:47:45 +0000, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    Now you are starting to sound like she-who-must-always-have-the-last
    word ;)
    *****************************************
    Given how much time you spent trying to get the last word with
    Harshman, there's nobody but yourself you reasonably refer to.


    Sorry, I can't see how that is Harran outing him or herself as
    transgender. Can you explain?

    I'd advise you not to hold your breath; Jillery can't give an
    explanation because there is no explanation - it's just a piece of
    bullshit made up by Jillery.




    it's just a typical blatant lie by Jillery who works on the
    basis that if enough mud is thrown at someone, some of it might
    eventually stick. The fact that Jillery regards made-up claims about
    someone being transgender as suitable mud really tells you all you
    need to know about Jillery's attitude towards transgender people.


    The above is the just the latest instance of you accusing me of doing
    what you do. For someone who claims to ignore my posts (not often
    enough), you sure do pretend to know what I post.

    I don't expect you to back up any of your spittle-dripping venom.
    After all, NeverAnswersQuestions is another well-deserved sobriquet.
    But perhaps someday you will explain to Curious why you think calling
    yourself transgender deserves such an emotional and overwrought
    reaction.

    Good example at the end there of a pathetic but typical Jillery
    attempt at blame transference. Jillery tries to use transgenderism as
    some kind of mud to be thrown and then tries to attack me for calling
    it out.


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  • From jillery@69jpil69@gmail.com to talk-origins on Sat May 2 06:28:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 16:56:04 +0100, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 13:42:20 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 27/04/2026 08:56, jillery wrote:
    On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 07:51:53 +0100, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 22:29:04 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 22/03/2026 05:33, jillery wrote:

    [...]


    Recently Harran outed herself as transgender.

    When did that she do that and why does it matter?


    Since you asked, because Harran likes to make claims about my gender.
    You're welcome.


    I didn't,


    Perhaps not intentionally, but of course you did:
    *****************************************
    On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 18:47:45 +0000, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    Now you are starting to sound like she-who-must-always-have-the-last
    word ;)
    *****************************************
    Given how much time you spent trying to get the last word with
    Harshman, there's nobody but yourself you reasonably refer to.


    Sorry, I can't see how that is Harran outing him or herself as >>transgender. Can you explain?

    I'd advise you not to hold your breath; Jillery can't give an
    explanation because there is no explanation - it's just a piece of
    bullshit made up by Jillery.
    Thank you Harran for showing Curious how the sobriquet "she-who-must-always-have-the-last-word"
    reasonably refers to you.
    it's just a typical blatant lie by Jillery who works on the
    basis that if enough mud is thrown at someone, some of it might
    eventually stick. The fact that Jillery regards made-up claims about
    someone being transgender as suitable mud really tells you all you
    need to know about Jillery's attitude towards transgender people.


    The above is the just the latest instance of you accusing me of doing
    what you do. For someone who claims to ignore my posts (not often
    enough), you sure do pretend to know what I post.

    I don't expect you to back up any of your spittle-dripping venom.
    After all, NeverAnswersQuestions is another well-deserved sobriquet.
    But perhaps someday you will explain to Curious why you think calling
    yourself transgender deserves such an emotional and overwrought
    reaction.

    Good example at the end there of a pathetic but typical Jillery
    attempt at blame transference. Jillery tries to use transgenderism as
    some kind of mud to be thrown and then tries to attack me for calling
    it out.
    No reasonable person would interpret what I wrote that way. You seem determined to prove yourself the fool.
    --
    To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
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  • From jillery@69jpil69@gmail.com to talk-origins on Sat May 9 06:38:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On Sun, 3 May 2026 09:22:49 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote:
    On 02/05/2026 11:28, jillery wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 16:56:04 +0100, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 13:42:20 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 27/04/2026 08:56, jillery wrote:
    On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 07:51:53 +0100, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 22:29:04 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 22/03/2026 05:33, jillery wrote:

    [...]


    Recently Harran outed herself as transgender.

    When did that she do that and why does it matter?


    Since you asked, because Harran likes to make claims about my gender. >>>>> You're welcome.


    I didn't,


    Perhaps not intentionally, but of course you did:
    *****************************************
    On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 18:47:45 +0000, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    Now you are starting to sound like she-who-must-always-have-the-last >>>>>> word ;)
    *****************************************
    Given how much time you spent trying to get the last word with
    Harshman, there's nobody but yourself you reasonably refer to.


    Sorry, I can't see how that is Harran outing him or herself as
    transgender. Can you explain?

    I'd advise you not to hold your breath; Jillery can't give an
    explanation because there is no explanation - it's just a piece of
    bullshit made up by Jillery.


    Thank you Harran for showing Curious how the sobriquet

    "she-who-must-always-have-the-last-word"

    reasonably refers to you.


    it's just a typical blatant lie by Jillery who works on the
    basis that if enough mud is thrown at someone, some of it might
    eventually stick. The fact that Jillery regards made-up claims about >>>>>> someone being transgender as suitable mud really tells you all you >>>>>> need to know about Jillery's attitude towards transgender people.


    The above is the just the latest instance of you accusing me of doing >>>>> what you do. For someone who claims to ignore my posts (not often
    enough), you sure do pretend to know what I post.

    I don't expect you to back up any of your spittle-dripping venom.
    After all, NeverAnswersQuestions is another well-deserved sobriquet. >>>>> But perhaps someday you will explain to Curious why you think calling >>>>> yourself transgender deserves such an emotional and overwrought
    reaction.

    Good example at the end there of a pathetic but typical Jillery
    attempt at blame transference. Jillery tries to use transgenderism as
    some kind of mud to be thrown and then tries to attack me for calling
    it out.


    No reasonable person would interpret what I wrote that way. You seem
    determined to prove yourself the fool.


    HarranrCOs insistence that this is all made up by you seems supported by >your reticence to identify where Harran came out as transgender
    Your inability to recognize clear answers suggests you have a serious
    case of dyslexia... or you need a new hobby.
    or give
    any explanation as to why it would matter of he or she did.
    Since it matters to you, only you can provide an explanation that
    might satisfy you.
    Also, why do you reply to him or her instead of me when I ask you something?
    I respond to multiple posts to reduce spam. That you have some
    special need for me to reply to your post specifically is yet another
    personal problem you could work on.
    Have a nice day.
    --
    To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
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  • From Curious@nospam@spam.com to talk-origins on Wed May 13 15:25:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 09/05/2026 11:38, jillery wrote:
    On Sun, 3 May 2026 09:22:49 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 02/05/2026 11:28, jillery wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 16:56:04 +0100, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 13:42:20 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 27/04/2026 08:56, jillery wrote:
    On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 07:51:53 +0100, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 22:29:04 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 22/03/2026 05:33, jillery wrote:

    [...]


    Recently Harran outed herself as transgender.

    When did that she do that and why does it matter?


    Since you asked, because Harran likes to make claims about my
    gender.
    You're welcome.


    I didn't,


    Perhaps not intentionally, but of course you did:
    *****************************************
    On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 18:47:45 +0000, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    Now you are starting to sound like
    she-who-must-always-have-the-last
    word ;)
    *****************************************
    Given how much time you spent trying to get the last word with
    Harshman, there's nobody but yourself you reasonably refer to.


    Sorry, I can't see how that is Harran outing him or herself as
    transgender. Can you explain?

    I'd advise you not to hold your breath; Jillery can't give an
    explanation because there is no explanation - it's just a piece of
    bullshit made up by Jillery.


    Thank you Harran for showing Curious how the sobriquet

    "she-who-must-always-have-the-last-word"

    reasonably refers to you.


    it's just a typical blatant lie by Jillery who works on the
    basis that if enough mud is thrown at someone, some of it might
    eventually stick. The fact that Jillery regards made-up claims
    about
    someone being transgender as suitable mud really tells you all you
    need to know about Jillery's attitude towards transgender people.


    The above is the just the latest instance of you accusing me of
    doing
    what you do. For someone who claims to ignore my posts (not often
    enough), you sure do pretend to know what I post.

    I don't expect you to back up any of your spittle-dripping venom.
    After all, NeverAnswersQuestions is another well-deserved sobriquet.
    But perhaps someday you will explain to Curious why you think
    calling
    yourself transgender deserves such an emotional and overwrought
    reaction.

    Good example at the end there of a pathetic but typical Jillery
    attempt at blame transference. Jillery tries to use transgenderism as
    some kind of mud to be thrown and then tries to attack me for calling
    it out.


    No reasonable person would interpret what I wrote that way. You seem
    determined to prove yourself the fool.


    HarranrCOs insistence that this is all made up by you seems supported by
    your reticence to identify where Harran came out as transgender


    Your inability to recognize clear answers suggests you have a serious
    case of dyslexia... or you need a new hobby.

    Why are you attacking me instead of dealing with what I asked you?

    The only explanation you gave me was Harran referring to rCLShe who most
    be obeyedrCY but I canrCOt figure out what you are getting at.

    If rCysherCO was a reference to you then it canrCOt be him outing himself. I also donrCOt see how referring to a person of undeclared gender as either rCyherCO or rCyshrCO is a gender attack. (IrCOm assuming you have never declared
    your gender rCo not that there would be any particular need to unless you wanted to correct somebody addressing you inappropriately.

    If you mean that by rCysherCO he was referring to himself, then making that
    to be outing as transgender seems rather convoluted; it would also rule
    out it being a gender attack on you.

    Can you see where my confusion comes from?



    or give
    any explanation as to why it would matter of he or she did.


    Since it matters to you, only you can provide an explanation that
    might satisfy you.


    Also, why do you reply to him or her instead of me when I ask you something?


    I respond to multiple posts to reduce spam. That you have some
    special need for me to reply to your post specifically is yet another personal problem you could work on.

    Again, why are you attacking me?


    Have a nice day.


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  • From Martin Harran@martinharran@gmail.com to talk-origins on Fri May 15 10:18:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On Wed, 13 May 2026 15:25:05 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 09/05/2026 11:38, jillery wrote:
    On Sun, 3 May 2026 09:22:49 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 02/05/2026 11:28, jillery wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 16:56:04 +0100, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 13:42:20 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote: >>>>
    On 27/04/2026 08:56, jillery wrote:
    On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 07:51:53 +0100, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 22:29:04 +0100, Curious <nospam@spam.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 22/03/2026 05:33, jillery wrote:

    [...]


    Recently Harran outed herself as transgender.

    When did that she do that and why does it matter?


    Since you asked, because Harran likes to make claims about my
    gender.
    You're welcome.


    I didn't,


    Perhaps not intentionally, but of course you did:
    *****************************************
    On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 18:47:45 +0000, Martin Harran
    <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

    Now you are starting to sound like
    she-who-must-always-have-the-last
    word ;)
    *****************************************
    Given how much time you spent trying to get the last word with
    Harshman, there's nobody but yourself you reasonably refer to.


    Sorry, I can't see how that is Harran outing him or herself as
    transgender. Can you explain?

    I'd advise you not to hold your breath; Jillery can't give an
    explanation because there is no explanation - it's just a piece of
    bullshit made up by Jillery.


    Thank you Harran for showing Curious how the sobriquet

    "she-who-must-always-have-the-last-word"

    reasonably refers to you.


    it's just a typical blatant lie by Jillery who works on the
    basis that if enough mud is thrown at someone, some of it might >>>>>>> eventually stick. The fact that Jillery regards made-up claims
    about
    someone being transgender as suitable mud really tells you all you >>>>>>> need to know about Jillery's attitude towards transgender people. >>>>>>

    The above is the just the latest instance of you accusing me of
    doing
    what you do. For someone who claims to ignore my posts (not often >>>>>> enough), you sure do pretend to know what I post.

    I don't expect you to back up any of your spittle-dripping venom. >>>>>> After all, NeverAnswersQuestions is another well-deserved sobriquet. >>>>>> But perhaps someday you will explain to Curious why you think
    calling
    yourself transgender deserves such an emotional and overwrought
    reaction.

    Good example at the end there of a pathetic but typical Jillery
    attempt at blame transference. Jillery tries to use transgenderism as >>>> some kind of mud to be thrown and then tries to attack me for calling >>>> it out.


    No reasonable person would interpret what I wrote that way. You seem
    determined to prove yourself the fool.


    HarranrCOs insistence that this is all made up by you seems supported by >> your reticence to identify where Harran came out as transgender


    Your inability to recognize clear answers suggests you have a serious
    case of dyslexia... or you need a new hobby.

    Why are you attacking me instead of dealing with what I asked you?

    The only explanation you gave me was Harran referring to rCLShe who most
    be obeyedrCY but I canrCOt figure out what you are getting at.

    If rCysherCO was a reference to you then it canrCOt be him outing himself. I >also donrCOt see how referring to a person of undeclared gender as either >rCyherCO or rCyshrCO is a gender attack. (IrCOm assuming you have never declared
    your gender rCo not that there would be any particular need to unless you >wanted to correct somebody addressing you inappropriately.

    If you mean that by rCysherCO he was referring to himself, then making that >to be outing as transgender seems rather convoluted; it would also rule
    out it being a gender attack on you.

    Can you see where my confusion comes from?



    or give
    any explanation as to why it would matter of he or she did.


    Since it matters to you, only you can provide an explanation that
    might satisfy you.


    Also, why do you reply to him or her instead of me when I ask you
    something?


    I respond to multiple posts to reduce spam. That you have some
    special need for me to reply to your post specifically is yet another personal problem you could work on.

    Again, why are you attacking me?

    I think you have just about achieved membership of the club comprising
    many, if not most, longtime regulars here who have dared to challenge
    Jillery and been told in response that they are stupid, a troll or a
    scammer; sometimes two of those and sometimes all three.



    Have a nice day.


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