On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 16:57:12 -0700 (PDT), WolfBear <m4josh@gmail.com>
wrote:
Do you think that WWII and the Soviet experience in it was in any way >>>crucial or vital to the Soviet Union's downfall several decades later?
In other words, in a scenario where WWII would have never occurred (for >>>instance, if Britain and France hold firm in 1938 and the SK are able to >>>overthrow Hitler and the Nazis before war actually breaks out), do you >>>think that the Soviet Union would have still eventually collapsed and >>>broken up? Or do you think that the Soviet collapse and break-up could >>>have been avoided in this scenario?
Even without losing 20+ milion people Russia had some woeful economic
problems to overcome and Stalin's methods wouldn't accomplish what was
needed.
Indeed but they were overcoming it, the Russian economy was doing okay
till the 1980s
"SolomonW" wrote in message news:d5x4tuac3udq$.enow9clyqey9.dlg@40tude.net...
On Mon, 03 Jun 2019 18:47:00 -0700, The Horny Goat wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 16:57:12 -0700 (PDT), WolfBear <m4josh@gmail.com>
wrote:
Do you think that WWII and the Soviet experience in it was in any way >>>>crucial or vital to the Soviet Union's downfall several decades later?
In other words, in a scenario where WWII would have never occurred (for >>>>instance, if Britain and France hold firm in 1938 and the SK are able to >>>>overthrow Hitler and the Nazis before war actually breaks out), do you >>>>think that the Soviet Union would have still eventually collapsed and >>>>broken up? Or do you think that the Soviet collapse and break-up could >>>>have been avoided in this scenario?
Even without losing 20+ milion people Russia had some woeful economic
problems to overcome and Stalin's methods wouldn't accomplish what was
needed.
Indeed but they were overcoming it, the Russian economy was doing okay
till the 1980s
Oh? The Soviet collapse was a foregone conclusion from the get-go. It was just a matter of when and how: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_of_the_dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union
People have been predicting the certainity of a nuclear ww3, the end of
oil and global warming ever since I can remember.
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 15:20:22 -0500, Byker wrote:
"SolomonW" wrote in message
news:d5x4tuac3udq$.enow9clyqey9.dlg@40tude.net...
On Mon, 03 Jun 2019 18:47:00 -0700, The Horny Goat wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 16:57:12 -0700 (PDT), WolfBear <m4josh@gmail.com>
wrote:
Do you think that WWII and the Soviet experience in it was in any way >>>>>crucial or vital to the Soviet Union's downfall several decades later? >>>>>
In other words, in a scenario where WWII would have never occurred (for >>>>>instance, if Britain and France hold firm in 1938 and the SK are able to >>>>>overthrow Hitler and the Nazis before war actually breaks out), do you >>>>>think that the Soviet Union would have still eventually collapsed and >>>>>broken up? Or do you think that the Soviet collapse and break-up could >>>>>have been avoided in this scenario?
Even without losing 20+ milion people Russia had some woeful economic
problems to overcome and Stalin's methods wouldn't accomplish what was >>>> needed.
Indeed but they were overcoming it, the Russian economy was doing okay
till the 1980s
Oh? The Soviet collapse was a foregone conclusion from the get-go. It was
just a matter of when and how:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_of_the_dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union
People have been predicting the certainity of a nuclear ww3, the end of oil >and global warming ever since I can remember.
"The End Times, like the poor, will be with you always." Sister Mary
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