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    From Byker@byker@do~rag.net to soc.history.what-if,alt.history.what-if,sci.military.naval on Sun Nov 10 13:56:11 2019
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss7hhUajrEQ

    Even if the Japs had put the Me262 into production,
    would there have been fuel for them?
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  • From SolomonW@SolomonW@citi.com to soc.history.what-if,alt.history.what-if,sci.military.naval on Tue Nov 12 00:50:09 2019
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    On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 13:56:11 -0600, Byker wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss7hhUajrEQ

    Even if the Japs had put the Me262 into production,
    would there have been fuel for them?

    How could they put it into production, it is not just fuel, The Germans
    lacked precious metals like nickel, cobalt and molybdenum, so they had to switch to aluminium-coated steel. The Japanese are in a worse position here
    as they lacked nickel so they could not make a high-quality steel.



    The other issue is that the me262 although a great plane over effect was
    not that great, it shot down about 150 Allied aircraft for the loss of
    about 100 Me-262s in air combat.
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  • From a425couple@a425couple@hotmail.com to soc.history.what-if,alt.history.what-if,sci.military.naval on Mon Nov 11 08:12:11 2019
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    On 11/11/2019 5:50 AM, SolomonW wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 13:56:11 -0600, Byker wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss7hhUajrEQ

    Even if the Japs had put the Me262 into production,
    would there have been fuel for them?

    How could they put it into production, it is not just fuel, The Germans lacked precious metals like nickel, cobalt and molybdenum, so they had to switch to aluminium-coated steel. The Japanese are in a worse position here as they lacked nickel so they could not make a high-quality steel.

    The other issue is that the me262 although a great plane over effect was
    not that great, it shot down about 150 Allied aircraft for the loss of
    about 100 Me-262s in air combat.

    Yes. 1) there would be great problems with making
    the Me-262s, 2) finding fuel for all their flight operations,
    and 3) training their pilots.

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  • From pyotr filipivich@phamp@mindspring.com to soc.history.what-if,alt.history.what-if,sci.military.naval on Mon Nov 11 09:53:34 2019
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    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> on Mon, 11 Nov 2019 08:12:11 -0800
    typed in alt.history.what-if the following:
    On 11/11/2019 5:50 AM, SolomonW wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 13:56:11 -0600, Byker wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss7hhUajrEQ

    Even if the Japs had put the Me262 into production,
    would there have been fuel for them?

    How could they put it into production, it is not just fuel, The Germans
    lacked precious metals like nickel, cobalt and molybdenum, so they had to
    switch to aluminium-coated steel. The Japanese are in a worse position here >> as they lacked nickel so they could not make a high-quality steel.

    The other issue is that the me262 although a great plane over effect was
    not that great, it shot down about 150 Allied aircraft for the loss of
    about 100 Me-262s in air combat.

    Yes. 1) there would be great problems with making
    the Me-262s, 2) finding fuel for all their flight operations,
    and 3) training their pilots.

    Japan had that problem with the aircraft they already had.
    --
    pyotr filipivich
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