• Re: 25 best movies and TV shows about the Middle Ages

    From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to soc.history.medieval,soc.history.war.misc on Tue Jul 18 16:20:49 2023
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    On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 08:06:30 -0700, a425couple
    <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:


    Overall a great list but how could you possibly overlook Robin and
    Marion (1976)?
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075147/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
    This was a great romance starring Sean Connery and Audrey Hepburn
    which was basically the Robin Hood story fast forwarded 20 years to
    when both of them were aging - as you say perhaps not the most
    historically accurate but then you knew that given who the two stars
    were playing right?

    Yes, they flat out recognize:
    Braveheart might not be known for being the most historically accurate
    of films u it jettisons historical fact altogether

    from >https://www.yardbarker.com/entertainment/articles/25_best_movies_and_tv_shows_about_the_middle_ages/s1__39006598#slide_1

    25 best movies and TV shows about the Middle Ages
    Updated 36 minutes ago | By Thomas West
    Though films and TV series about the Middle Ages do not always attract
    the same level of love and critical praise as those set in other periods
    of history, there are still a number of notable films and TV series
    which take the period as their setting. For some time, many of these
    looked to the medieval period as a moment of chivalry and knightly
    quest. More recently, however, popular culture set in the Middle Ages
    has leaned into the gritty and grimy aesthetic, demonstrating how
    flexible this particular period remains and the many things it has come
    to represent.


    1 of 25'Camelot'
    'Camelot'
    Starz via MovieStillsDB
    If thereAs one figure from the Middle Ages who looms larger than any
    other, it would have to be King Arthur. His saga has been reimagined >countless times, but one of the more noteworthy efforts was the
    short-lived Camelot from Starz. Though it only lasted one season, the
    series was nevertheless noteworthy for the extent to which it straddled
    the line between historical authenticity and the core elements of this >well-established legend. In addition, it features a strong cast, and Eva >Green is particularly exceptional as the cunning and ruthless Morgan >Pendragon, who wants to bring down both Arthur and Camelot.


    2 of 25'Monty Python and the Holy Grail'
    'Monty Python and the Holy Grail'
    EMI Films via MovieStillsDB
    Of all the films released by the Monty Python comedy troupe, Monty
    Python and the Holy Grail is arguably the best and funniest. A riotous
    and joyful send-up of everything having to do with the King Arthur
    legend, from King Arthur himself to Lancelot and the Lady in the Lake.
    It has all of the surrealism and absurdity of the troupeAs usual humor,
    but what makes it really special is how it seems to understand what
    makes the original legends so enduringly popular. Perhaps nothing
    highlights its premier status more than the fact that it ended up being
    the basis for its musical, Spamalot.


    3 of 25'The Pillars of the Earth'
    'The Pillars of the Earth'
    Starz via MovieStillsDB
    Based on the bestselling novel by Ken Follett, the Starz miniseries The >Pillars of the Earth focuses on the residents of the fictional town of >Kingsbridge as they struggle to build a cathedral and contend with the >political strife known as the Anarchy. Though there are a host of >characters, much of the action revolves around Eddie RedmayneAs Jack
    Jackson and Hayley AtwellAs Lady Aliena, with Ian McShane and Matthew >Macfadyen turning in performances as the cunning and ruthless Waleran
    Bigod and Prior Philip, respectively. Though it can be a bit
    melodramatic and predictable in its plot, the series is nevertheless a
    good adaptation of FollettAs novel and a rich depiction of life and
    struggle in the medieval period.


    4 of 25'The Adventures of Robin Hood'
    'The Adventures of Robin Hood'
    Warner Bros via MovieStillsDB
    In classic Hollywood, few actors were as dashing and handsome as Errol >Flynn, so it makes sense that he would have been cast as Robin Hood in >Michael CurtizAs The Adventures of Robin Hood, released in 1938. ItAs a >Technicolor swashbuckler as only old Hollywood could have made it, and
    Flynn is joined by a great supporting cast that includes Olivia de
    Havilland as Maid Marian, Claude Rains as Prince John, and Basil
    Rathbone as Guy of Gisbourne. What it lacks in historical authenticity,
    it more than makes up for in simple joy and exhilaration, as it sweeps
    the viewer up in the efforts of Robin and his Merry Men to topple the
    cruel and corrupt rule of Prince John.


    5 of 25'El Cid'
    'El Cid'
    Allied Artists via MovieStillsDB
    If there was one actor in classic Hollywood who represented the epic
    film, it was Charlton Heston. Whether as Moses or Ben-Hur, something
    about his chiseled physique and simple physical presence made him seem
    ideal for epic heroes. In El Cid, he plays the titular character, one of
    the most celebrated heroes in Spanish history, a man who fought against
    the Moors of Spain during the Middle Ages. It has everything one expects
    of such a drama, with moments of powerful passion and others of deep >introspection about the nature of religious faith, the bounds of duty,
    and the ultimate price of heroism.


    6 of 25'The Last Duel'
    'The Last Duel'
    20th Century Studios via MovieStillsDB
    Ridley Scott is one of todayAs most versatile directors, and there are
    few genres he hasnAt worked in. He has proved particularly adept at the >epic, however, and The Last Duel, while not an enormous success, is >nevertheless a thoughtful exploration of the nature of patriarchy in the >medieval world. ItAs a grim and somber film featuring the superb acting >talents of Matt Damon, Jodie Comer, and Adam Driver. It shows a grittier >side of the Middle Ages than some might expect, and this is its great >strength and the thing that can sometimes make it difficult to watch.


    7 of 25'The Northman'
    'The Northman'
    Focus Features via MovieStillsDB
    Following the success of The Witch and The Lighthouse, Robert Eggers >returned to the big screen with The Northman. A retelling of the legends >that inspired ShakespeareAs Hamlet, it revolves around Alexander
    SkarsgordAs Amleth, a young man who swears vengeance against his uncle
    after his father is traitorously murdered. Though it has moments of camp >excess, there is still a profound beating heart to this film that helps
    to elevate above its excesses. Skarsgord makes for the perfect epic
    hero, at once strikingly handsome and spiritually tortured. The film
    also excels at bringing out the cruelty and beauty of the Middle Ages.


    8 of 25'Braveheart'
    'Braveheart'
    Paramount Pictures via MovieStillsDB
    Braveheart might not be known for being the most historically accurate
    of films u it jettisons historical fact altogether u but thereAs no
    denying its power. Mel Gibson is in extraordinary form as William
    Wallace, the Scottish rebel who led his people to fight back against the >English, led by their hard-edged and avaricious king, Edward I. The film
    is filled with rousing battlefield scenes and speeches, but it also
    doesnAt shy away from the darker aspects of medieval life. This is
    entirely fitting, as this was an often-brutal age, and the film allows
    for a surprisingly rich understanding of one of the eraAs most important >historical figures.


    9 of 25'Kingdom of Heaven'
    'Kingdom of Heaven'
    20 Century Fox via MovieStillsDB
    After success in The Lord of the Rings and Troy, Orlando Bloom kept up
    with the epic filmmaking by appearing in Kingdom of Heaven. He portrays
    the character Balian of Ibelin, a blacksmith who goes to the Holy Land
    and becomes ensnared in the fraught politics of the Crusades. The film
    shows all of ScottAs keen eye for action and epic storytelling, and it
    was timely, as its examination of the relationship between Christians
    and Muslims dovetailed with the then-new War on Terror. Though it takes
    some notable liberties with known historical facts, thereAs still an >emotional truth to it, allowing it to become a surprisingly thoughtful
    piece of epic filmmaking.


    10 of 25'The Green Knight'
    'The Green Knight'
    A24 via MovieStillsDB
    The legend of the Green Knight is one of the lesser-known stories from >Arthurian legends, which gives director David Lowery quite a bit of
    license. The result is The Green Knight, one of the most unique and >innovative films about the Middle Ages. Dev Patel gives a masterful >performance as Sir Gawain, who yearns to be the type of hero he thinks
    he deserves to be. It is a unique mix of magic and desire and dark
    magic, and it is also fiercely deconstructive, diving deep into the
    haunted spirit of folklore, forcing a reckoning with what storytelling
    means and entails.


    11 of 25'Vikings'
    'Vikings'
    History via MovieStillsDB
    As its title suggests, Vikings is set during the Viking Age and focuses
    in particular on Ragnar Lodbrok, one of the most famous heroes of the
    era (played by Travis Fimmel). As with so many other series, it takes
    some significant liberties with the known history of the period, but
    this doesnAt lessen its appeal. The series is remarkable for the extent
    to which it captures the grittiness and grime of the early Middle Ages. >There is, nevertheless, a savage beauty about its presentation of this
    era and its most terrifying inhabitants, and Fimmel has a suitably
    fierce and intense charisma that makes him ideally cast as a Viking warlord.


    12 of 25'Vikings: Valhalla'
    'Vikings: Valhalla'
    History via MovieStillsDB
    Vikings: Valhalla is a spinoff of the hugely successful Vikings and
    takes place about a century after its parent series. In this case, it >focuses, in particular, on the conflicts between the English and the >Vikings. As with its predecessor, thereAs a gritty and realistic feel to
    the show that is key to its appeal. At the same time, however, it gives >viewers an understanding of the complicated politics that were very much
    at work in the period when the dominance of the Vikings was beginning to >come to an end. It also features some of the most famous names of the
    Middle Ages, including Leif Erikson, Harald Sigurdsson, King Canute, and >Queen Emma.


    13 of 25'Excalibur'
    'Excalibur'
    Warner Bros via MovieStillsDB
    The legend of King Arthur has inspired generations of filmmakers, but
    few have approached the material in quite as unique a way as John
    Boorman. His Excalibur has many of the elements of the traditional
    Arthur story u with the boy raised in ignorance of his true heritage,
    his dalliance with his own half-sister, Morgana, and the doomed romance
    of Guinevere and Lancelot u but he glosses it all with his unique visual >sensibilities. The film exists in the fraught territory between history
    and fantasy, with scenes of such brutality and beauty that they seem to
    sear themselves into the viewerAs mind.


    14 of 25'Becket'
    'Becket'
    Paramount Pictures via MovieStillsDB
    Thomas Becket was one of the most formidable and noteworthy
    personalities of the Middle Ages. His friendship-turned-rivalry with
    King Henry II was significant for the men and England's history. Richard >Burton (who plays Becket) and Peter OAToole (who plays Henry) give
    stirring, soulful performances. They both excel at taking these >larger-than-life figures and turning them into fully fleshed-out >individuals, two men driven to collide with one another due to their own >deeply-held beliefs. This is the kind of literate costume drama viewers
    can really sink their teeth into, and the well-written screenplay and
    the tremendous performances help to elevate it to the best the genre has
    to offer.


    15 of 25'The Lion in Winter'
    'The Lion in Winter'
    AVCO Embassy Pictures via MovieStillsDB
    Based on the play of the same name, The Lion in Winter depicts a
    Christmas gathering of King Henry II of England and his fractious
    family, including his wife, Eleanor of Aquitaine, and his three
    surviving sons, Richard, Geoffrey, and John. ItAs a film filled with >memorable performances, particularly from Peter OAToole, Katherine
    Hepburn, and Anthony Hopkins. ItAs a literate drama about a family
    damaged almost beyond repair. Moreover, it ably captures the toxic
    politics which were always such a key part of the Angevin family, a
    dynasty in which fathers frequently fought against sons and in which
    sons turned against one another.


    16 of 25'The Sword in the Stone'
    'The Sword in the Stone'
    Walt Disney Pictures via MovieStillsDB
    Though it wasnAt an enormous success at the time of its release, The
    Sword in the Stone has subsequently come to be seen as one of the most >beloved Disney films. Loosely adapting the first book of T.H. WhiteAs
    The Once and Future King, it follows a very young King Arthur as he
    becomes the student of the eccentric wizard Merlin. Filled with
    memorable songs, vibrant animation (including a wizardAs duel, in which >Merlin and his nemesis Madam Mim transform into various animals), and
    some valuable life lessons, itAs a film that shows the extent to which,
    even in the post-Walt era, Disney still knew how to produce a great
    animated feature.


    17 of 25'Robin Hood'
    'Robin Hood'
    Walt Disney Pictures via MovieStillsDB
    DisneyAs Robin Hood is another of those Disney films that emerged from
    the 1970s to lackluster reviews but has subsequently become beloved.
    With its memorable cast of anthropomorphic animals in the traditional
    Robin Hood roles and catchy songs, itAs a treat to watch. Of course, no >Disney film is complete without a good villain, and the nefarious Prince >John ranks up there with the best of them, though he is far sillier than
    he is competently evil. ItAs a lighthearted take on one of the most
    beloved legends from the Middle Ages.


    18 of 25'The Name of the Rose'
    'The Name of the Rose'
    Columbia Pictures via MovieStillsDB
    Based on the thought-provoking novel by the late Umberto Eco, The Name
    of the Rose stars Sean Connery as William of Baskerville and Christian >Slater as his novice, Adso of Melk. Together, they undertake an >investigation of a series of strange deaths at a remote abbey. Slowly
    but surely, they uncover the dark secrets hidden behind its walls.
    Though not quite as elegantly constructed as the book, there is still a >great deal to enjoy about this film, not the least of which is ConneryAs >performance. However, itAs also enjoyable because it grapples with
    weighty issues, including, most notably, the perilous nature of
    forbidden knowledge.


    19 of 25'The Last Kingdom'
    'The Last Kingdom'
    BBC via MovieStillsDB
    In keeping with the gritty aesthetic that seems to characterize so many >contemporary depictions of the Middle Ages, The Last Kingdom immerses
    the viewer in the turbulent period of English history when the native >English were starting to fight back against the Vikings. It focuses in >particular on the character Uhtred of Bebbanburg, a Saxon raised by
    Vikings who finds his fate intertwined with that of the man known to
    history as Alfred the Great. The Last Kingdom doesnAt shy away from the >brutality and violence that were often a part of the medieval world, but
    it also has moments of soaring triumph.


    20 of 25'A KnightAs Tale'
    'A KnightAs Tale'
    Sony Pictures Releasing via MovieStillsDB
    Some of the most notable movies about the Middle Ages have tended to be >dramas, but every so often, a comedy comes along. A KnightAs Tale is
    filled with deliberate anachronisms, but Heath Ledger, who portrays
    William Thatcher, a peasant who masquerades as a knight, is so
    charismatic and fun to watch that itAs easy to overlook these
    inaccuracies. ItAs the sort of underdog story that is always guaranteed
    to thrill a film audience, and though it might not be one of LedgerAs
    more lauded performances, thereAs no denying that he exudes the same
    charm he does in such other roles as 10 Things I Hate About You.


    21 of 25'Henry V'
    'Henry V'
    Curzon Film Distributors via MovieStillsDB
    The works of Shakespeare have been adapted numerous times to film, and
    one of the more notable efforts in this regard is Henry V. Directed by
    and starring Kenneth Branagh as the title character, it focuses on
    HenryAs invasion of France and its consequences. Though it maintains >ShakespeareAs dialogue, it still gives a gritty representation of
    medieval battle. In this film, Branagh pulls off one of the most
    difficult feats, reimagining the oft-adapted works of the Bard and
    rendering them into something new, fresh, and exciting. Among the other >members of the talented cast are Judi Dench, Ian Holm, and Derek Jacobi.


    22 of 25'The Hollow Crown'
    'The Hollow Crown'
    BBC via MovieStillsDB
    The Wars of the Roses were some of the most noteworthy and devastating >conflicts to have hit England, and they make for fascinating and
    compelling drama. The British TV series The Hollow Crown is a
    multi-part adaptation of several of ShakespeareAs notable works,
    including The Henriad. It is truly an embarrassment of riches when it
    comes to its cast, which includes such heavy hitters as Ben Whishaw, Tom >Hiddleston, and Michael Gambon. This is meticulously crafted television
    at its best, and it makes BardAs classic history plays feel fresh, new,
    and ever more relevant for the 21st century. What sets this series
    apart, however, is the extent to which each episode manages to work both
    as an episode of television and as part of a coherent whole.


    23 of 25'The White Queen'
    'The White Queen'
    Starz via MovieStillsDB
    For the past decade, Starz has made a point of releasing sumptuously >produced historical dramas focusing on the experiences of notable
    historical women. One of the most notable is The White Queen, which
    tells the story of Elizabeth Woodville, the commoner who married none
    other than Edward IV. However, their romance is only part of the story.
    The series masterfully weaves together their love with the broader
    conflicts of the Wars of the Roses, as ElizabethAs fate intertwines with >many of the other prominent women of the period, including the
    redoubtable Margaret Beaufort, who would herself give birth to a man
    fated to become a king.


    24 of 25'Ivanhoe'
    'Ivanhoe'
    MGM via MovieStillsDB
    The works of Sir Walter Scott were enormously popular in his own
    lifetime, and they have a remarkable afterlife on the big screen. Of the >many adaptations of his work, one of the best is 1952As Ivanhoe. The
    film focuses on the adventures of its title character, a Saxon who >nevertheless wants to see King Richard return to England. ItAs a
    sweeping adventure film of a distinctly old-fashioned sort, and while it >makes some changes to ScottAs novel, it keeps true to the spirit of it.
    It also features some great performances from Robert Taylor, Elizabeth >Taylor, George Sanders, and Joan Fontaine.


    25 of 25'Outlaw King'
    'Outlaw King'
    Netflix via MovieStillsDB
    Chris Pine is one of the most charming and charismatic actors working in >Hollywood, and he brings all of that to bear in Outlaw King, in which he >plays Robert the Bruce. Though often overshadowed by William Wallace,
    Bruce was also key to ScotlandAs Wars of Independence, this film
    restores him to his rightful place in history. Though it might like some
    of the heightened grandeur of the earlier Braveheart, itAs a more >historically accurate film. Like many other films about the Middle Ages
    from the 21st century, it doesnAt shy away from the dirt, blood, and >violence of this pivotal period in Scottish history.

    Thomas J. West III earned a PhD in film and screen studies from Syracuse >University in 2018. His writing on film and TV has appeared at Screen
    Rant, Screenology, FanFare, Primetimer, Cinemania, and in a number of >scholarly journals and edited collections. He co-hosts the Queens of the
    B's podcast and writes a regular newsletter, Omnivorous, on Substack. He
    is also an active member of GALECA, the Society of LGBTQ Entertainment >Critics.

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  • From a425couple@a425couple@hotmail.com to soc.history.medieval on Wed Jul 19 09:47:32 2023
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    On 7/18/23 22:12, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 8:06:32rC>AM UTC-7, a425couple wrote:
    Yes, they flat out recognize:
    Braveheart might not be known for being the most historically accurate
    of films rCo it jettisons historical fact altogether

    from
    https://www.yardbarker.com/entertainment/articles/25_best_movies_and_tv_shows_about_the_middle_ages/s1__39006598#slide_1

    --------------snip

    Am I the only one who remembers THE RETURN OF MARTIN GUERRE?

    That could well be. I sure do not remember anything of it.

    "Is The Return of Martin Guerre Based on a true story?
    The real-life 16th century case has been the inspiration for
    storytellers ever since, including a French cinema version starring
    G|-rard Depardieu (The Return Of Martin Guerre, 1982), and a Hollywood
    version starring Richard Gere and Jody Foster (Sommersby, 1993).

    also
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_of_Martin_Guerre

    Starring G|-rard Depardieu
    Nathalie Baye

    Closing in on execution, seems to have a touch of "Tale of Two Cities".





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  • From gggg gggg@ggggg9271@gmail.com to soc.history.medieval on Wed Jul 19 10:09:17 2023
    From Newsgroup: soc.history.medieval

    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 9:47:34rC>AM UTC-7, a425couple wrote:
    On 7/18/23 22:12, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 8:06:32rC>AM UTC-7, a425couple wrote:
    Yes, they flat out recognize:
    Braveheart might not be known for being the most historically accurate
    of films rCo it jettisons historical fact altogether

    from
    https://www.yardbarker.com/entertainment/articles/25_best_movies_and_tv_shows_about_the_middle_ages/s1__39006598#slide_1

    --------------snip

    Am I the only one who remembers THE RETURN OF MARTIN GUERRE?
    That could well be. I sure do not remember anything of it.

    "Is The Return of Martin Guerre Based on a true story?
    The real-life 16th century case has been the inspiration for
    storytellers ever since, including a French cinema version starring
    G|-rard Depardieu (The Return Of Martin Guerre, 1982), and a Hollywood version starring Richard Gere and Jody Foster (Sommersby, 1993).

    also
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_of_Martin_Guerre

    Starring G|-rard Depardieu
    Nathalie Baye

    Closing in on execution, seems to have a touch of "Tale of Two Cities".
    https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/rec.arts.movies.past-films/c/UPtkcAYDFy8/m/gC0msYHLCAAJ
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