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Huge US bi-partisan support = 396-23.
Clear support from Republicans and Democrats.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/4291248-house-approves-resolution-condemning-support-hamas-hezbollah-campuses/

House approves resolution condemning support of Hamas, Hezbollah on
college campuses
BY MYCHAEL SCHNELL AND LEXI LONAS - 11/02/23 8:05 PM ET
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The House approved a resolution Thursday condemning the support of
Hamas, Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations at higher education institutions, a rebuke of the uproar that has taken place at college
campuses in the wake of HamasrCOs attack on Israel last month.

The resolution rCo which the chamber cleared in a 396-23 vote rCo took aim
at colleges that have been embroiled in controversy over responses to
the Israel-Hamas war, declaring that the support of Hamas and Hezbollah
on campuses rCLmay lead to the creation of a hostile environment for
Jewish students, faculty, and staff.rCY

It also calls on campus administrators to condemn antisemitism on
college campuses; ensure Jewish faculty, students and guests are able to exercise free speech rights guaranteed to others without intimidation;
and urges the enforcement of federal civil rights laws meant to protect
Jewish students.

rCLToday, the PeoplerCOs House sent a clear message to the nation: We firmly reject evil, we strongly support Israel, and we will root out the rotten ideologies found in our higher education system,rCY Rep. Burgess Owens (R-Utah), the sponsor of the resolution, wrote in a statement Thursday.

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) was the lone Republican to vote against the resolution. He was joined by 22 Democrats, a handful of whom are members
of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

The legislation lists a number of examples across multiple campuses
where either professors or students expressed support for Hamas, a U.S.-designated terrorist organization, after it launched its attack on
Israel on Oct. 7.

One instance took place at The George Washington University, where pro-Palestine students illuminated on the side of the library messages
that said rCLFree Palestine from the River to the SearCY and rCLGlory to our Martyrs.rCY

During a pro-Palestinian rally at Cornell University, a professor said
he was rCLexhilaratedrCY by HamasrCOs attack on Israel and declared that rCLHamas has challenged the monopoly of violence,rCY according to The
Cornell Daily Sun. The professor, Russell Rickford, later apologized in
a statement rCLfor the horrible choice of words that I used in a portion
of a speech that was intended to stress grassroots African American,
Jewish and Palestinian traditions of resistance to oppression.rCY

The resolution also noted that one of the most prominent pro-Palestine
groups on campus, Students for Justice in Palestine, released a
statement calling for a rCLday of resistance.rCY

Rep. Kathy Manning (D-N.C.), who is Jewish, slammed the antisemitism
that has been seen on college campuses amid the war between Israel and
Hamas.

rCLAntisemitism is a persistent, shape-shifting hatred that is an affront
to our values as Americans. It should be condemned by all. It has no
place on college campuses and universities or in our society,rCY she said during debate on the House floor Wednesday.

rCLWhen antisemitism and bias against Jews takes hold on campus, it
deprives students of their equal right to an education and it harms
everyone in the campus community,rCY she later added.

Tensions have been running high at campuses as a rise in antisemitism
and anti-Muslim sentiments have grown.

On Tuesday, authorities arrested a Cornell University junior and charged
him with rCLposting threats to kill or injure another using interstate communicationrCY after he allegedly posted a threat to open fire at a
Kosher dining hall on campus.

The resolution condemning the support of Hamas and Hezbollah on college campuses is one of a number of pieces of legislation the House has
approved in the wake of the war in the Middle East, and under the
leadership of newly minted Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.).

Also on Thursday, the House approved a $14.3 billion Israel aid package.
Last week, the chamber approved a resolution backing Israel and
condemning Hamas.

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On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 12:17:05 -0800, a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com>
wrote:

One instance took place at The George Washington University, where >pro-Palestine students illuminated on the side of the library messages
that said oFree Palestine from the River to the Seao and oGlory to our >Martyrs.o

The trouble is that a lot of those carrying signs saying "from the
river to the sea' don't know WHICH river they're talking about and
what the consequence of actually doing so would be.

Most of the regulars here (ok a couple of exceptions!) know that "the
river" in question is the Jordan though most have figured out that
'the sea' must be the Meditteranean. A huge portion of those claiming
to be pro-Palestinian who are using that slogan emphatically DON'T
know what the achievement of that slogan would be.

A large number of those protesting are claiming Israeli treatment of Palestinians is a 'genocide' which is remarkable given the Palestinian population in 1948 vs now. If that's really a genocide then the
Israelis have got to have far exceeded the goofballs on Hogan's Heroes
for effective genocide!

The catch is that if you are advocating 'from the river to the sea'
you are advocating either the complete genocide of the state of Israel
or the forced relocation of the present population of Israel which is
by no means 100% Jewish.

Most of us would support a "two state solution" if it actually did
bring peace but advocating "from the river to the sea" is advocating
genocide and despite all the goofy things Congress occasionally does
is NOT something even the Squad is likely to advocate if expressed in
those terms.
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On 11/6/23 17:41, The Horny Goat wrote:

On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 12:17:05 -0800, a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com>
wrote:

One instance took place at The George Washington University, where
pro-Palestine students illuminated on the side of the library messages
that said rCLFree Palestine from the River to the SearCY and rCLGlory to our >> Martyrs.rCY

The trouble is that a lot of those carrying signs saying "from the
river to the sea' don't know WHICH river they're talking about and
what the consequence of actually doing so would be.

Most of the regulars here (ok a couple of exceptions!) know that "the
river" in question is the Jordan though most have figured out that
'the sea' must be the Meditteranean. A huge portion of those claiming
to be pro-Palestinian who are using that slogan emphatically DON'T
know what the achievement of that slogan would be.

A large number of those protesting are claiming Israeli treatment of Palestinians is a 'genocide' which is remarkable given the Palestinian population in 1948 vs now. If that's really a genocide then the
Israelis have got to have far exceeded the goofballs on Hogan's Heroes
for effective genocide!

The catch is that if you are advocating 'from the river to the sea'
you are advocating either the complete genocide of the state of Israel
or the forced relocation of the present population of Israel which is
by no means 100% Jewish.

Most of us would support a "two state solution" if it actually did
bring peace but advocating "from the river to the sea" is advocating
genocide and despite all the goofy things Congress occasionally does
is NOT something even the Squad is likely to advocate if expressed in
those terms.

I fully agree with your:

Most of us would support a "two state solution" if it actually did
bring peace

and very much wished for that for decades.
But, sadly, I have lost a lot of hope this last decade.
Too many 'rulers' are getting their 'satisfiers' ** (power, prestige,
and sometimes wealth) by keeping the anger, hate, and
wishes for vengeance in place.

I appreciate and like Egypt. But my time there last year
made it even more clear that we would all be great fools
in even wishing them to become a democracy.

I'll try adding to this, and give a source of books on
the subject soon.

**
Herzberg's Two-Factor Theory Of Motivation-Hygiene
Simply Psychology
https://www.simplypsychology.org rC| ... rC| Motivation
Sep 28, 2023 rCo According to Herzberg, whether or not dissatisfiers
outweigh satisfiers predict whether employees find their job interesting
and enjoyable ...
rCADefinition -+ rCAHerzberg's Approach -+ rCAMotivation Factors -+ rCAHerzberg's
Hygiene Factors
also https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/3-key-factors-satisfier-dissatisfier-theory-product-vinay-nagaraju

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