• William de Tracy (of Bradninch?) and Ralph de Sudeley

    From Robert Goff@rwgoff19812@gmail.com to soc.genealogy.medieval on Wed Feb 5 07:31:17 2025
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    The possible relationship between William de Tracy of Bradninch and
    Ralph de Sudeley or lack thereof was discussed by Professor Nicholas
    Vincent in The Murderers of Thomas Becket in Bishofsmord im Mittelalter, Fryde, N. & Reitz, D. (eds.). Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht (2003), p. 211-72.
    The traditional de Tracy genealogy was also discussed by Jim Weber in
    this forum around the time of Professor Vincent's article. https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/phk02pDyBKk/m/QzN-0rqCHXIJ

    A William de Tracy confirmed the gift by his brother, Ralph de Suthleia,
    of Janewordem [Yanworth] to St. Peter, Gloucester, which was witnessed
    by a Henry de Tracy, Jordan de Cambernun [or Campo Ernulfo], William de
    Monte Acuto, Hugh de Ralea [Ralegh], Ralph de Munpinceun [Montpinchon],
    Robert de Culna, and Robert de Camrepuls [or Champrepus]. William Henry
    Hart, Historia Et Cartularium Monasterii Sancti Petri Gloucestriae, Part
    2, p. 180. The witnesses Ralph de Montpinchon and Robert de Champrepus
    both assumed their names from places named in the following 1110 grant
    to Mont St. Michel from the William de Tracy that Professor Vicent noted
    was a close family member to William de Tracy of Bradninch. Circa 1110, William de Tracy, joined the Abbey of Mont St. Michel and granted it the
    tithe of his mills at Montpinchon, his wood of Luzerne and the mill of
    that vill, the mill of Champrepus, his mills at St. Vigor, the church of Argouges, and the tithe and the tithe of the mill there. The charter was
    also signed by his wife, Rohesia, his sons, Turgis and Henry, and his
    sister, Gieve. John Horace Round, Calendar of documents preserved in
    France, illustrative of the history of Great Britain and Ireland. Vol.1.
    A.D. 918-1206 (1899), p. 258. Hugh de Ralegh and Jordan de Campo
    Ernulphi who witnessed the charter of William de Tracy brother of Ralph
    de Sudeley also witnessed the 1146 charter of Henry de Tracy of
    Barnstaple father of Oliver confirming to Barnstaple Priory the gifts by Judhael and Alvred de Totnes. Monasticon, vol. 5, p. 198.

    As noted by Professor Vincent, a William de Tracy and a Henry de Tracy witnessed an undated charter with Otuel de Sudeley. However, as noted by Professor Vincent, there is significant uncertainty in the de Tracy
    genealogy. As noted in footnotes 119 and 134 of Professor VincentrCOs
    article, there is at least one other William de Tracy, son of Gervase de Cuterne or Courteney who was a close family member of William de Tracy
    of Bradninch active in Devon during the time at issue with respect to
    the Toddington evidences. Further review of the Forde and Torre
    Cartularies further complicates the de Tracy genealogy during the period
    of the Toddington evidences. For instance, by undated charter dated to 1189-1204, Henry de Traci, son of William de Traci, granted to Forde
    Abbey Leoford, Cuntesbury, Linton with the services due by Welhangre, Thornwrthi, Lin, Nerviton and Furzehill within the manor of Barnestapill
    to hold by the service of one-half of a knightrCOs fee, and also Colbroc
    with the commons of pasture of Braneis, quit of all service. Steven
    Hobbs, The Cartulary of Forde Abbey (Somerset Record Society, 1998), p.
    114. By undated charter dated to 1226-1246, a Henry de Tracy son of
    William de Tracy confirmed to Forde the grant of Colebroc and the grant
    of common of pasture in the tenement of Braneis [Bradninch]. Hobbs,
    Forde Cartulary, p. 101.
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