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The U-995, which will be adapted into a PNN spaceship for Mars

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=b%2bLr11cs&id=DB11AAD27BBE1DB159D6DF0C340E19CF617E82B1&thid=OIP.b-Lr11csHj6YLSbt0lnFpAHaEK&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fi.pinimg.com%2foriginals%2f47%2f33%2f80%2f47338013ac97178cecb54b8e31d39c5d.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.6fe2ebd7572c1e3e982d26edd259c5a4%3frik%3dsYJ%252bYc8ZDjQM3w%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=1080&expw=1920&q=Sottomarini+Usati+in+Vendita&FORM=IRPRST&ck=87C320A6370A519B17B624F3323ED7D6&selectedIndex=34&itb=0&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0

The four PNN ALIENA-class thrusters will be placed at the stern and bow, and on the port and starboard sides.
Subsequently, it will be clad with a parallelepiped containing hundreds of water containers with external solar panels.

http://www.asps.it
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E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

The U-995, which will be adapted into a PNN spaceship for Mars

https://www.bing.com/images/search?<snip ridiculous trackers>

The four PNN ALIENA-class thrusters will be placed at the stern and bow, and on the port and starboard sides.
Subsequently, it will be clad with a parallelepiped containing hundreds of water containers with external solar panels.

Let's see if we can follow this... solar panels provide electric heat to hundreds of water containers, which boil easily in the vacuum of Martian
skies, pushing the Good Ship Lollipop to her fate.

This is the dawning of the... <drum roll>... steam powered space ship!
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Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:

E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

The U-995, which will be adapted into a PNN spaceship for Mars

https://www.bing.com/images/search?<snip ridiculous trackers>

The four PNN ALIENA-class thrusters will be placed at the stern and bow, and on the port and starboard sides.
Subsequently, it will be clad with a parallelepiped containing hundreds of water containers with external solar panels.

Let's see if we can follow this... solar panels provide electric heat to hundreds of water containers, which boil easily in the vacuum of Martian skies, pushing the Good Ship Lollipop to her fate.

This is the dawning of the... <drum roll>... steam powered space ship!

No! The solar panels supply electric power to the amplifiers
instead of the engines inside the submarine.

External water containers are practically frozen.
Moreover, using the submarine as a spaceship offers these other
advantages if used for the PNN:

- it has a sealed environment
- it has batteries
- it has water tanks
- it has a periscope
- it is inexpensive to use
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E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:

E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

The U-995, which will be adapted into a PNN spaceship for Mars

https://www.bing.com/images/search?<snip ridiculous trackers>

The four PNN ALIENA-class thrusters will be placed at the stern and bow, and on the port and starboard sides.
Subsequently, it will be clad with a parallelepiped containing hundreds of water containers with external solar panels.

Let's see if we can follow this... solar panels provide electric heat to hundreds of water containers, which boil easily in the vacuum of Martian skies, pushing the Good Ship Lollipop to her fate.

This is the dawning of the... <drum roll>... steam powered space ship!

No! The solar panels supply electric power to the amplifiers
instead of the engines inside the submarine.

External water containers are practically frozen.
Moreover, using the submarine as a spaceship offers these other
advantages if used for the PNN:

- it has a sealed environment
- it has batteries
- it has water tanks
- it has a periscope
- it is inexpensive to use

Ok... a solar-powered submarine! And it morphs into a steam-powered
spaceship! What a stroke of genius!

Why didn't the comic books think of that?
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On 2025-10-08 9:50, E.Laureti wrote:

[ snip ]

Moreover, using the submarine as a spaceship offers these other
advantages if used for the PNN:

- it has a sealed environment
- it has batteries
- it has water tanks
- it has a periscope
- it is inexpensive to use

The advantages of submarines as spacecraft were discussed by the writer
Harry Harrison in his sci-fi novel "The Daleth Effect", published in
1970. That novel also posited a non-Newtonian propulsion mechanism (the "Daleth" effect) but did require a small fusion reactor as the power
source for a trip to the Moon and back. Batteries were enough for a
suborbital hop.

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Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> posted:

On 2025-10-08 9:50, E.Laureti wrote:

[ snip ]

Moreover, using the submarine as a spaceship offers these other
advantages if used for the PNN:

- it has a sealed environment
- it has batteries
- it has water tanks
- it has a periscope
- it is inexpensive to use

The advantages of submarines as spacecraft were discussed by the writer Harry Harrison in his sci-fi novel "The Daleth Effect", published in
1970. That novel also posited a non-Newtonian propulsion mechanism (the "Daleth" effect) but did require a small fusion reactor as the power
source for a trip to the Moon and back. Batteries were enough for a suborbital hop.

an asps membre wrote:



Senza contare poi che assomiglia enormemente alla corazzata Yamato di
Star Blazers

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078692/mediaviewer/rm2333702656/?ref_=tt_ov_i


namaste
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 07:22:31 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:

E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

The U-995, which will be adapted into a PNN spaceship for Mars

https://www.bing.com/images/search?<snip ridiculous trackers>

The four PNN ALIENA-class thrusters will be placed at the stern and bow, and on the port and starboard sides.
Subsequently, it will be clad with a parallelepiped containing hundreds of water containers with external solar panels.

Let's see if we can follow this... solar panels provide electric heat to >> > hundreds of water containers, which boil easily in the vacuum of Martian >> > skies, pushing the Good Ship Lollipop to her fate.

This is the dawning of the... <drum roll>... steam powered space ship!

No! The solar panels supply electric power to the amplifiers
instead of the engines inside the submarine.

External water containers are practically frozen.
Moreover, using the submarine as a spaceship offers these other
advantages if used for the PNN:

- it has a sealed environment
- it has batteries
- it has water tanks
- it has a periscope
- it is inexpensive to use

Ok... a solar-powered submarine! And it morphs into a steam-powered >spaceship! What a stroke of genius!

Why didn't the comic books think of that?

https://ibb.co/JWTTrgwR
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Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 07:22:31 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Ok... a solar-powered submarine! And it morphs into a steam-powered >spaceship! What a stroke of genius!

Why didn't the comic books think of that?

https://ibb.co/JWTTrgwR

Awwww... the poor babies at PNN can't bear to be questioned. They hate
any technical discussion because they don't know what they are doing.

So much for being scientists... you're more like common 'net grifters.

Say, why don't you post at t.o. any more?
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Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 07:22:31 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Ok... a solar-powered submarine! And it morphs into a steam-powered >spaceship! What a stroke of genius!

Why didn't the comic books think of that?

https://ibb.co/JWTTrgwR

Awwww... the poor babies at PNN can't bear to be questioned. They hate
any technical discussion because they don't know what they are doing.

So much for being scientists... you're more like common 'net grifters.

Say, why don't you post at t.o. any more?

Awwww... the poor babies at PNN can't bear to be questioned. They hate
any technical discussion because they don't know what they are doing.

Keep in mind that the use of the submarine U-995 was conditional on savings.
Compared to what missile systems waste in vain, we shouldn't
exceed $24,674,480.00 to go to Mars. A trifle, I repeat, compared
to what the comical missile programs waste.

So much for being scientists... you're more like common 'net grifters.

Now listen, even though I assume that you have the same mindset as
missile people.
We were thinking of selling the F432BA prototype
http://www.asps.it/bacam8.jpeg

according to this specification illustrated in the patent Patent: WO2022264177 - ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177
Now, since you say that patents donrCOt matter before any sale,
we will do something in which:

a) we will not make any profit

b) we will put you (and others!) in a position to VERIFY YOURSELF
the violation of the action-reaction principle via electrodynamics,
in order to make the hypothetical case of the PNN realistic:
building spaceships that do not lose mass or parts.
And to be able to even take a submarine to Mars!

Do you understand me?
I donrCOt think so; in fact,
I believe you will find excuses to do nothing.

Say, why don't you post at t.o. any more?

Here I repeat https://propulsion-revolution.com
You will find explanations of why with rocketry it is not possible to have
permanent outposts on either the Moon or Mars.
I repeat again the essence of what will be done: we will put you
in the position to VERIFY YOURSELF the violation of the action-reaction principle via electrodynamics.

Will he have understood?

I donrCOt think so.
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 20:35:33 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 07:22:31 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Ok... a solar-powered submarine! And it morphs into a steam-powered
spaceship! What a stroke of genius!

Why didn't the comic books think of that?

https://ibb.co/JWTTrgwR

Awwww... the poor babies at PNN can't bear to be questioned. They hate
any technical discussion because they don't know what they are doing.

So much for being scientists... you're more like common 'net grifters.

Say, why don't you post at t.o. any more?

We chose our audience wisely. You are excluded from hearing about PNN
as you show adverse behavior.
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On 2025-10-07 06:53:35 +0000, E.Laureti said:

The U-995, which will be adapted into a PNN spaceship for Mars

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=b%2bLr11cs&id=DB11AAD27BBE1DB159D6DF0C340E19CF617E82B1&thid=OIP.b-Lr11csHj6YLSbt0lnFpAHaEK&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fi.pinimg.com%2foriginals%2f47%2f33%2f80%2f47338013ac97178cecb54b8e31d39c5d.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.6fe2ebd7572c1e3e982d26edd259c5a4%3frik%3dsYJ%252bYc8ZDjQM3w%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=1080&expw=1920&q=Sottomarini+Usati+in+Vendita&FORM=IRPRST&ck=87C320A6370A519B17B624F3323ED7D6&selectedIndex=34&itb=0&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0

The four PNN ALIENA-class thrusters will be placed at the stern and
bow, and on the port and starboard sides.
Subsequently, it will be clad with a parallelepiped containing hundreds
of water containers with external solar panels.

http://www.asps.it

Post again when it has risen 15 m above the ground.
--
Mikko

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Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> posted:

On 2025-10-07 06:53:35 +0000, E.Laureti said:

The U-995, which will be adapted into a PNN spaceship for Mars

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=b%2bLr11cs&id=DB11AAD27BBE1DB159D6DF0C340E19CF617E82B1&thid=OIP.b-Lr11csHj6YLSbt0lnFpAHaEK&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fi.pinimg.com%2foriginals%2f47%2f33%2f80%2f47338013ac97178cecb54b8e31d39c5d.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.6fe2ebd7572c1e3e982d26edd259c5a4%3frik%3dsYJ%252bYc8ZDjQM3w%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=1080&expw=1920&q=Sottomarini+Usati+in+Vendita&FORM=IRPRST&ck=87C320A6370A519B17B624F3323ED7D6&selectedIndex=34&itb=0&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0

The four PNN ALIENA-class thrusters will be placed at the stern and
bow, and on the port and starboard sides.
Subsequently, it will be clad with a parallelepiped containing hundreds
of water containers with external solar panels.

http://www.asps.it

Post again when it has risen 15 m above the ground.

a) we will not make any profit

b) we will put you (and others!) in a position to VERIFY YOURSELF
the violation of the action-reaction principle via electrodynamics,
in order to make the hypothetical case of the PNN realistic:
building spaceships that do not lose mass or parts.
And to be able to even take a submarine to Mars!
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E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:

Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> posted:

On 2025-10-07 06:53:35 +0000, E.Laureti said:

The U-995, which will be adapted into a PNN spaceship for Mars

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=b%2bLr11cs&id=DB11AAD27BBE1DB159D6DF0C340E19CF617E82B1&thid=OIP.b-Lr11csHj6YLSbt0lnFpAHaEK&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fi.pinimg.com%2foriginals%2f47%2f33%2f80%2f47338013ac97178cecb54b8e31d39c5d.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.6fe2ebd7572c1e3e982d26edd259c5a4%3frik%3dsYJ%252bYc8ZDjQM3w%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=1080&expw=1920&q=Sottomarini+Usati+in+Vendita&FORM=IRPRST&ck=87C320A6370A519B17B624F3323ED7D6&selectedIndex=34&itb=0&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0

The four PNN ALIENA-class thrusters will be placed at the stern and
bow, and on the port and starboard sides.
Subsequently, it will be clad with a parallelepiped containing hundreds of water containers with external solar panels.

http://www.asps.it

Post again when it has risen 15 m above the ground.

a) we will not make any profit

b) we will put you (and others!) in a position to VERIFY YOURSELF
the violation of the action-reaction principle via electrodynamics,
in order to make the hypothetical case of the PNN realistic:
building spaceships that do not lose mass or parts.
And to be able to even take a submarine to Mars!

I don't know if you understand.
I have already broken several experimental devices just to reach
1 kg of thrust. They would need to be rebuilt stronger and suitable
for long-term use. An enhanced Aliena prototype would need to be remade properly. Now I would have to destroy all my experimental devices for
your ridiculous thrust hypotheses on a prototype that largely
violates the principle of action and reaction. Repeat basic PNN
experiments on your own.

I repeat.

b) we will put you (and others!) in a position
to VERIFY YOURSELF the violation of the action-reaction principle
via electrodynamics, in order to make the hypothetical case of the
PNN realistic: building spaceships that do not lose mass or parts.
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Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> posted:

On 2025-10-07 06:53:35 +0000, E.Laureti said:

The U-995, which will be adapted into a PNN spaceship for Mars

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=b%2bLr11cs&id=DB11AAD27BBE1DB159D6DF0C340E19CF617E82B1&thid=OIP.b-Lr11csHj6YLSbt0lnFpAHaEK&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fi.pinimg.com%2foriginals%2f47%2f33%2f80%2f47338013ac97178cecb54b8e31d39c5d.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.6fe2ebd7572c1e3e982d26edd259c5a4%3frik%3dsYJ%252bYc8ZDjQM3w%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=1080&expw=1920&q=Sottomarini+Usati+in+Vendita&FORM=IRPRST&ck=87C320A6370A519B17B624F3323ED7D6&selectedIndex=34&itb=0&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0

The four PNN ALIENA-class thrusters will be placed at the stern and
bow, and on the port and starboard sides.
Subsequently, it will be clad with a parallelepiped containing hundreds
of water containers with external solar panels.

http://www.asps.it

Post again when it has risen 15 m above the ground.

a) we will not make any profit

b) we will put you (and others!) in a position to VERIFY YOURSELF
the violation of the action-reaction principle via electrodynamics,
in order to make the hypothetical case of the PNN realistic:
building spaceships that do not lose mass or parts.
And to be able to even take a submarine to Mars!
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On 2025-10-09 11:11:45 +0000, E.Laureti said:

Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> posted:

On 2025-10-07 06:53:35 +0000, E.Laureti said:

The U-995, which will be adapted into a PNN spaceship for Mars

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=b%2bLr11cs&id=DB11AAD27BBE1DB159D6DF0C340E19CF617E82B1&thid=OIP.b-Lr11csHj6YLSbt0lnFpAHaEK&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fi.pinimg.com%2foriginals%2f47%2f33%2f80%2f47338013ac97178cecb54b8e31d39c5d.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.6fe2ebd7572c1e3e982d26edd259c5a4%3frik%3dsYJ%252bYc8ZDjQM3w%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=1080&expw=1920&q=Sottomarini+Usati+in+Vendita&FORM=IRPRST&ck=87C320A6370A519B17B624F3323ED7D6&selectedIndex=34&itb=0&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0



The four PNN ALIENA-class thrusters will be placed at the stern and
bow, and on the port and starboard sides.
Subsequently, it will be clad with a parallelepiped containing hundreds
of water containers with external solar panels.

http://www.asps.it

Post again when it has risen 15 m above the ground.

a) we will not make any profit

That I can belienv.

b) we will put you (and others!) in a position to VERIFY YOURSELF
the violation of the action-reaction principle via electrodynamics,
in order to make the hypothetical case of the PNN realistic:
building spaceships that do not lose mass or parts.
And to be able to even take a submarine to Mars!

If you cannot reach Mars if you cannot raise 15 m.
--
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Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> posted:

On 2025-10-09 11:11:45 +0000, E.Laureti said:

Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> posted:

On 2025-10-07 06:53:35 +0000, E.Laureti said:

The U-995, which will be adapted into a PNN spaceship for Mars

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=b%2bLr11cs&id=DB11AAD27BBE1DB159D6DF0C340E19CF617E82B1&thid=OIP.b-Lr11csHj6YLSbt0lnFpAHaEK&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fi.pinimg.com%2foriginals%2f47%2f33%2f80%2f47338013ac97178cecb54b8e31d39c5d.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.6fe2ebd7572c1e3e982d26edd259c5a4%3frik%3dsYJ%252bYc8ZDjQM3w%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=1080&expw=1920&q=Sottomarini+Usati+in+Vendita&FORM=IRPRST&ck=87C320A6370A519B17B624F3323ED7D6&selectedIndex=34&itb=0&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0



The four PNN ALIENA-class thrusters will be placed at the stern and
bow, and on the port and starboard sides.
Subsequently, it will be clad with a parallelepiped containing hundreds >>> of water containers with external solar panels.

http://www.asps.it

Post again when it has risen 15 m above the ground.

a) we will not make any profit

That I can belienv.

b) we will put you (and others!) in a position to VERIFY YOURSELF
the violation of the action-reaction principle via electrodynamics,
in order to make the hypothetical case of the PNN realistic:
building spaceships that do not lose mass or parts.
And to be able to even take a submarine to Mars!

If you cannot reach Mars if you cannot raise 15 m.

You know in what manner Aliena can reach at lest the push of
two times its weight?
I need to explain to you many questions.
Besides I have no time and more to give to you Aliena know-how.

Be patient and wait the method to reply action reaction violation by PNN
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E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 07:22:31 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Ok... a solar-powered submarine! And it morphs into a steam-powered >spaceship! What a stroke of genius!

Why didn't the comic books think of that?

https://ibb.co/JWTTrgwR

Awwww... the poor babies at PNN can't bear to be questioned. They hate
any technical discussion because they don't know what they are doing.

So much for being scientists... you're more like common 'net grifters.

Say, why don't you post at t.o. any more?

Awwww... the poor babies at PNN can't bear to be questioned. They hate
any technical discussion because they don't know what they are doing.

Keep in mind that the use of the submarine U-995 was conditional on savings.
Compared to what missile systems waste in vain, we shouldn't
exceed $24,674,480.00 to go to Mars. A trifle, I repeat, compared
to what the comical missile programs waste.

So much for being scientists... you're more like common 'net grifters.

Now listen, even though I assume that you have the same mindset as
missile people.
We were thinking of selling the F432BA prototype
http://www.asps.it/bacam8.jpeg

according to this specification illustrated in the patent Patent: WO2022264177 - ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177
Now, since you say that patents donAt matter before any sale,
we will do something in which:

a) we will not make any profit

No shit, Sherlock.

b) we will put you (and others!) in a position to VERIFY YOURSELF
the violation of the action-reaction principle via electrodynamics,
in order to make the hypothetical case of the PNN realistic:
building spaceships that do not lose mass or parts.
And to be able to even take a submarine to Mars!

Do you understand me?

Yes, I understand. You are looking for someone who is gullible enough,
and scientifically illiterate enough, to buy your make-believe spaceship
to demonstrate that it doesn't work.

I have already flagged some of your basic engineering and theory flaws.
You declined to address them, except to howl insults to the empty sky.

You don't know what you are doing, and you are determined not to learn.
That's a fatal error right there.

I donAt think so; in fact,
I believe you will find excuses to do nothing.

Say, why don't you post at t.o. any more?

Here I repeat https://propulsion-revolution.com
You will find explanations of why with rocketry it is not possible to have
permanent outposts on either the Moon or Mars.
I repeat again the essence of what will be done: we will put you
in the position to VERIFY YOURSELF the violation of the action-reaction principle via electrodynamics.

Will he have understood?

I donAt think so.

You can cry all you want about the shortcomings of rocketry. That won't
make your "invention" any less of a failure.
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 00:42:15 -0700, Rufus <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 07:22:31 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Ok... a solar-powered submarine! And it morphs into a steam-powered
spaceship! What a stroke of genius!

Why didn't the comic books think of that?

https://ibb.co/JWTTrgwR

Awwww... the poor babies at PNN can't bear to be questioned. They hate
any technical discussion because they don't know what they are doing.

So much for being scientists... you're more like common 'net grifters.

Say, why don't you post at t.o. any more?

Awwww... the poor babies at PNN can't bear to be questioned. They hate
any technical discussion because they don't know what they are doing.

Keep in mind that the use of the submarine U-995 was conditional on savings.
Compared to what missile systems waste in vain, we shouldn't
exceed $24,674,480.00 to go to Mars. A trifle, I repeat, compared
to what the comical missile programs waste.

So much for being scientists... you're more like common 'net grifters.

Now listen, even though I assume that you have the same mindset as
missile people.
We were thinking of selling the F432BA prototype
http://www.asps.it/bacam8.jpeg

according to this specification illustrated in the patent Patent: WO2022264177 - ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177
Now, since you say that patents donAt matter before any sale,
we will do something in which:

a) we will not make any profit

No shit, Sherlock.

b) we will put you (and others!) in a position to VERIFY YOURSELF
the violation of the action-reaction principle via electrodynamics,
in order to make the hypothetical case of the PNN realistic:
building spaceships that do not lose mass or parts.
And to be able to even take a submarine to Mars!

Do you understand me?

Yes, I understand. You are looking for someone who is gullible enough,
and scientifically illiterate enough, to buy your make-believe spaceship
to demonstrate that it doesn't work.

I have already flagged some of your basic engineering and theory flaws.
You declined to address them, except to howl insults to the empty sky.

You don't know what you are doing, and you are determined not to learn. >That's a fatal error right there.

I donAt think so; in fact,
I believe you will find excuses to do nothing.

Say, why don't you post at t.o. any more?

Here I repeat https://propulsion-revolution.com
You will find explanations of why with rocketry it is not possible to have >> permanent outposts on either the Moon or Mars.
I repeat again the essence of what will be done: we will put you
in the position to VERIFY YOURSELF the violation of the action-reaction
principle via electrodynamics.

Will he have understood?

I donAt think so.

You can cry all you want about the shortcomings of rocketry. That won't
make your "invention" any less of a failure.

Fuck off you stupid moronic ass hole !!!
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Rufus <ru@ru.ru> posted:

E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 07:22:31 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Ok... a solar-powered submarine! And it morphs into a steam-powered >spaceship! What a stroke of genius!

Why didn't the comic books think of that?

https://ibb.co/JWTTrgwR

Awwww... the poor babies at PNN can't bear to be questioned. They hate any technical discussion because they don't know what they are doing.

So much for being scientists... you're more like common 'net grifters.

Say, why don't you post at t.o. any more?

Awwww... the poor babies at PNN can't bear to be questioned. They hate any technical discussion because they don't know what they are doing.

Keep in mind that the use of the submarine U-995 was conditional on savings.
Compared to what missile systems waste in vain, we shouldn't
exceed $24,674,480.00 to go to Mars. A trifle, I repeat, compared
to what the comical missile programs waste.

So much for being scientists... you're more like common 'net grifters.

Now listen, even though I assume that you have the same mindset as
missile people.
We were thinking of selling the F432BA prototype
http://www.asps.it/bacam8.jpeg

according to this specification illustrated in the patent Patent: WO2022264177 - ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177
Now, since you say that patents don-At matter before any sale,
we will do something in which:

a) we will not make any profit

No shit, Sherlock.

Idiot are you able to understand this?

http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png


https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/

i say no!

b) we will put you (and others!) in a position to VERIFY YOURSELF
the violation of the action-reaction principle via electrodynamics,
in order to make the hypothetical case of the PNN realistic:
building spaceships that do not lose mass or parts.
And to be able to even take a submarine to Mars!

Do you understand me?

Yes, I understand. You are looking for someone who is gullible enough,
and scientifically illiterate enough, to buy your make-believe spaceship
to demonstrate that it doesn't work.

I have already flagged some of your basic engineering and theory flaws.
You declined to address them, except to howl insults to the empty sky.

You don't know what you are doing, and you are determined not to learn. That's a fatal error right there.

Idiot are you able to understand this?

http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png


https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/

i say no!

I don-At think so; in fact,
I believe you will find excuses to do nothing.

Say, why don't you post at t.o. any more?

Here I repeat https://propulsion-revolution.com
You will find explanations of why with rocketry it is not possible to have
permanent outposts on either the Moon or Mars.
I repeat again the essence of what will be done: we will put you
in the position to VERIFY YOURSELF the violation of the action-reaction principle via electrodynamics.

Will he have understood?

I don-At think so.

You can cry all you want about the shortcomings of rocketry. That won't
make your "invention" any less of a failure.

Idiot are you able to understand this?

http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png


https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/

i say no imbecile !
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On 2025-10-09 14:54:12 +0000, E.Laureti said:

Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> posted:

On 2025-10-09 11:11:45 +0000, E.Laureti said:

Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> posted:

On 2025-10-07 06:53:35 +0000, E.Laureti said:

The U-995, which will be adapted into a PNN spaceship for Mars

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=b%2bLr11cs&id=DB11AAD27BBE1DB159D6DF0C340E19CF617E82B1&thid=OIP.b-Lr11csHj6YLSbt0lnFpAHaEK&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fi.pinimg.com%2foriginals%2f47%2f33%2f80%2f47338013ac97178cecb54b8e31d39c5d.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.6fe2ebd7572c1e3e982d26edd259c5a4%3frik%3dsYJ%252bYc8ZDjQM3w%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=1080&expw=1920&q=Sottomarini+Usati+in+Vendita&FORM=IRPRST&ck=87C320A6370A519B17B624F3323ED7D6&selectedIndex=34&itb=0&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0




The four PNN ALIENA-class thrusters will be placed at the stern and
bow, and on the port and starboard sides.
Subsequently, it will be clad with a parallelepiped containing hundreds >>>>> of water containers with external solar panels.

http://www.asps.it

Post again when it has risen 15 m above the ground.

a) we will not make any profit

That I can belienv.

b) we will put you (and others!) in a position to VERIFY YOURSELF
the violation of the action-reaction principle via electrodynamics,
in order to make the hypothetical case of the PNN realistic:
building spaceships that do not lose mass or parts.
And to be able to even take a submarine to Mars!

If you cannot reach Mars if you cannot raise 15 m.

You know in what manner Aliena can reach at lest the push of
two times its weight?

I don't care. I want to know when lifts itself to 15 metres.

If it can maintain the push of twice its weight for a week and can
be cotrolled in flight for a week it can go to Mars, pick a sample,
and return to Earth in that time.
--
Mikko

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Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> posted:

On 2025-10-09 14:54:12 +0000, E.Laureti said:

Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> posted:

On 2025-10-09 11:11:45 +0000, E.Laureti said:

Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> posted:

On 2025-10-07 06:53:35 +0000, E.Laureti said:

The U-995, which will be adapted into a PNN spaceship for Mars

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=b%2bLr11cs&id=DB11AAD27BBE1DB159D6DF0C340E19CF617E82B1&thid=OIP.b-Lr11csHj6YLSbt0lnFpAHaEK&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fi.pinimg.com%2foriginals%2f47%2f33%2f80%2f47338013ac97178cecb54b8e31d39c5d.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.6fe2ebd7572c1e3e982d26edd259c5a4%3frik%3dsYJ%252bYc8ZDjQM3w%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=1080&expw=1920&q=Sottomarini+Usati+in+Vendita&FORM=IRPRST&ck=87C320A6370A519B17B624F3323ED7D6&selectedIndex=34&itb=0&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0




The four PNN ALIENA-class thrusters will be placed at the stern and >>>>> bow, and on the port and starboard sides.
Subsequently, it will be clad with a parallelepiped containing hundreds >>>>> of water containers with external solar panels.

http://www.asps.it

Post again when it has risen 15 m above the ground.

a) we will not make any profit

That I can belienv.

b) we will put you (and others!) in a position to VERIFY YOURSELF
the violation of the action-reaction principle via electrodynamics,
in order to make the hypothetical case of the PNN realistic:
building spaceships that do not lose mass or parts.
And to be able to even take a submarine to Mars!

If you cannot reach Mars if you cannot raise 15 m.

You know in what manner Aliena can reach at lest the push of
two times its weight?

I don't care. I want to know when lifts itself to 15 metres.

If it can maintain the push of twice its weight for a week and can
be cotrolled in flight for a week it can go to Mars, pick a sample,
and return to Earth in that time.

it will made an article in Nova Astronautica (n.185) http://www.asps.it/Vol45.htm about
the use of an U-995 uboot as spaceship for Mars.

I have too much things to do.

And besides
i need of many engineers
that
i can't pay!

qff
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