• PNN test of 1 hour

    From Emidio Laureti@asps@asps.it to sci.space.policy on Tue Nov 12 10:04:54 2024
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    PNN test of 1 hour!

    With the 1-hour push Aliena test www.asps.it/Aliena.jpg it
    was shown that the boost increases PNN
    over time with only a V-shaped dipole but of
    new conception (info in www.asps.it ) according to what
    had already been seen and observed in all previous tests.

    With one hundred Aliena thrusters enhanced in series and
    parallel to take off for the Moon and Mars
    without losing mass!

    Continuous and increasing thrust without losing even 1
    milligram of mass as in this graph
    www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg

    Despite this, events that have been repeated for some time
    continue to manufacture mammoth rockets for
    the moon and Mars that they lose mass and will never
    colonize anything.

    They make taxpayers pay the costs so much that in their
    strategy must continue to understand nothing about PNN and
    buy into the comic nonsense of Musk and Nasa.
    Their rockets have a huge mass. They leave with terrible
    noise
    poisoning the atmosphere with gases....
    But they'll disappear like the dinosaurs disappeared

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  • From Mikko@mikko.levanto@iki.fi to sci.space.policy on Tue Nov 12 15:52:02 2024
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    On 2024-11-12 09:04:54 +0000, Emidio Laureti said:

    PNN test of 1 hour!

    With the 1-hour push Aliena test www.asps.it/Aliena.jpg it
    was shown that the boost increases PNN
    over time with only a V-shaped dipole but of
    new conception (info in www.asps.it ) according to what
    had already been seen and observed in all previous tests.

    With one hundred Aliena thrusters enhanced in series and
    parallel to take off for the Moon and Mars
    without losing mass!

    Continuous and increasing thrust without losing even 1
    milligram of mass as in this graph
    www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg

    More interesting than the thrust is the thrust / mass ratio.
    Also the behaviour over longer times, at least 3000 seconds.
    --
    Mikko

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  • From Sylvia Else@sylvia@email.invalid to sci.space.policy on Mon Nov 18 14:01:53 2024
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    On 12-Nov-24 5:04 pm, Emidio Laureti wrote:


    PNN test of 1 hour!

    With the 1-hour push Aliena test www.asps.it/Aliena.jpg it
    was shown that the boost increases PNN
    over time with only a V-shaped dipole but of
    new conception (info in www.asps.it ) according to what
    had already been seen and observed in all previous tests.


    This should raise doubts in itself. Why would there be a time dependency
    if it works the way you claim it does?

    Sylvia.

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  • From Von Ottone@support@selnet.org to sci.space.policy on Mon Nov 18 08:36:25 2024
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    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:01:53 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 12-Nov-24 5:04 pm, Emidio Laureti wrote:


    PNN test of 1 hour!

    With the 1-hour push Aliena test www.asps.it/Aliena.jpg it
    was shown that the boost increases PNN
    over time with only a V-shaped dipole but of
    new conception (info in www.asps.it ) according to what
    had already been seen and observed in all previous tests.


    This should raise doubts in itself. Why would there be a time dependency
    if it works the way you claim it does?

    Sylvia.

    I start to think that you are not a sane person.

    We said already that the thrust increases in time at parity of
    consumed energy.

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  • From Sylvia Else@sylvia@email.invalid to sci.space.policy on Mon Nov 18 16:02:18 2024
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    On 18-Nov-24 3:36 pm, Von Ottone wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:01:53 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 12-Nov-24 5:04 pm, Emidio Laureti wrote:


    PNN test of 1 hour!

    With the 1-hour push Aliena test www.asps.it/Aliena.jpg it
    was shown that the boost increases PNN
    over time with only a V-shaped dipole but of
    new conception (info in www.asps.it ) according to what
    had already been seen and observed in all previous tests.


    This should raise doubts in itself. Why would there be a time dependency
    if it works the way you claim it does?

    Sylvia.

    I start to think that you are not a sane person.

    We said already that the thrust increases in time at parity of
    consumed energy.


    What does "parity of consumed energy" mean?

    Sylvia


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  • From Von Ottone@support@selnet.org to sci.space.policy on Mon Nov 18 09:24:34 2024
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    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 16:02:18 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 18-Nov-24 3:36 pm, Von Ottone wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:01:53 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 12-Nov-24 5:04 pm, Emidio Laureti wrote:


    PNN test of 1 hour!

    With the 1-hour push Aliena test www.asps.it/Aliena.jpg it
    was shown that the boost increases PNN
    over time with only a V-shaped dipole but of
    new conception (info in www.asps.it ) according to what
    had already been seen and observed in all previous tests.


    This should raise doubts in itself. Why would there be a time dependency >>> if it works the way you claim it does?

    Sylvia.

    I start to think that you are not a sane person.

    We said already that the thrust increases in time at parity of
    consumed energy.


    What does "parity of consumed energy" mean?

    Sylvia


    250 Watts input power all the time for 1 hour, the thrust increases,
    apparently linearly...
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  • From Sylvia Else@sylvia@email.invalid to sci.space.policy on Mon Nov 18 19:28:43 2024
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    On 18-Nov-24 4:24 pm, Von Ottone wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 16:02:18 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 18-Nov-24 3:36 pm, Von Ottone wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:01:53 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 12-Nov-24 5:04 pm, Emidio Laureti wrote:


    PNN test of 1 hour!

    With the 1-hour push Aliena test www.asps.it/Aliena.jpg it
    was shown that the boost increases PNN
    over time with only a V-shaped dipole but of
    new conception (info in www.asps.it ) according to what
    had already been seen and observed in all previous tests.


    This should raise doubts in itself. Why would there be a time dependency >>>> if it works the way you claim it does?

    Sylvia.

    I start to think that you are not a sane person.

    We said already that the thrust increases in time at parity of
    consumed energy.


    What does "parity of consumed energy" mean?

    Sylvia


    250 Watts input power all the time for 1 hour, the thrust increases, apparently linearly...

    Sounds like a temperature effect to me. Convection increases in response
    to an increasing difference between the temperature of the device and
    ambient.

    Sylvia.
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  • From Von Ottone@support@selnet.org to sci.space.policy on Mon Nov 18 12:51:09 2024
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    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:28:43 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 18-Nov-24 4:24 pm, Von Ottone wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 16:02:18 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 18-Nov-24 3:36 pm, Von Ottone wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:01:53 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> >>>> wrote:

    On 12-Nov-24 5:04 pm, Emidio Laureti wrote:


    PNN test of 1 hour!

    With the 1-hour push Aliena test www.asps.it/Aliena.jpg it
    was shown that the boost increases PNN
    over time with only a V-shaped dipole but of
    new conception (info in www.asps.it ) according to what
    had already been seen and observed in all previous tests.


    This should raise doubts in itself. Why would there be a time dependency >>>>> if it works the way you claim it does?

    Sylvia.

    I start to think that you are not a sane person.

    We said already that the thrust increases in time at parity of
    consumed energy.


    What does "parity of consumed energy" mean?

    Sylvia


    250 Watts input power all the time for 1 hour, the thrust increases,
    apparently linearly...

    Sounds like a temperature effect to me. Convection increases in response
    to an increasing difference between the temperature of the device and >ambient.

    Sylvia.

    You don't know what you say.

    We are at 64 grams of thrust, on a kern precision scale.
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  • From Alain Fournier@alain245@videotron.ca to sci.space.policy on Mon Nov 18 08:22:33 2024
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    On 2024-11-18 6:51 a.m., Von Ottone wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:28:43 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 18-Nov-24 4:24 pm, Von Ottone wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 16:02:18 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 18-Nov-24 3:36 pm, Von Ottone wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:01:53 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> >>>>> wrote:

    On 12-Nov-24 5:04 pm, Emidio Laureti wrote:


    PNN test of 1 hour!

    With the 1-hour push Aliena test www.asps.it/Aliena.jpg it
    was shown that the boost increases PNN
    over time with only a V-shaped dipole but of
    new conception (info in www.asps.it ) according to what
    had already been seen and observed in all previous tests.


    This should raise doubts in itself. Why would there be a time dependency >>>>>> if it works the way you claim it does?

    Sylvia.

    I start to think that you are not a sane person.

    We said already that the thrust increases in time at parity of
    consumed energy.


    What does "parity of consumed energy" mean?

    Sylvia


    250 Watts input power all the time for 1 hour, the thrust increases,
    apparently linearly...

    Sounds like a temperature effect to me. Convection increases in response
    to an increasing difference between the temperature of the device and
    ambient.

    Sylvia.

    You don't know what you say.

    We are at 64 grams of thrust, on a kern precision scale.

    She did not say that you did not have thrust. I believe you that you
    have "64 grams" (I assume here that you mean 0.63 N, when you say 64
    grams) of thrust. I believe, as Sylvia does, that your 0.63 N of thrust
    comes from a temperature effect. All the data that has been provided by
    PNN enthusiasts here are compatible with a temperature effect.


    Alain Fournier

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  • From Von Ottone@support@selnet.org to sci.space.policy on Mon Nov 18 14:34:19 2024
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    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 08:22:33 -0500, Alain Fournier
    <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:

    On 2024-11-18 6:51 a.m., Von Ottone wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:28:43 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 18-Nov-24 4:24 pm, Von Ottone wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 16:02:18 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> >>>> wrote:

    On 18-Nov-24 3:36 pm, Von Ottone wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:01:53 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 12-Nov-24 5:04 pm, Emidio Laureti wrote:


    PNN test of 1 hour!

    With the 1-hour push Aliena test www.asps.it/Aliena.jpg it
    was shown that the boost increases PNN
    over time with only a V-shaped dipole but of
    new conception (info in www.asps.it ) according to what
    had already been seen and observed in all previous tests.


    This should raise doubts in itself. Why would there be a time dependency
    if it works the way you claim it does?

    Sylvia.

    I start to think that you are not a sane person.

    We said already that the thrust increases in time at parity of
    consumed energy.


    What does "parity of consumed energy" mean?

    Sylvia


    250 Watts input power all the time for 1 hour, the thrust increases,
    apparently linearly...

    Sounds like a temperature effect to me. Convection increases in response >>> to an increasing difference between the temperature of the device and
    ambient.

    Sylvia.

    You don't know what you say.

    We are at 64 grams of thrust, on a kern precision scale.

    She did not say that you did not have thrust. I believe you that you
    have "64 grams" (I assume here that you mean 0.63 N, when you say 64
    grams) of thrust. I believe, as Sylvia does, that your 0.63 N of thrust >comes from a temperature effect. All the data that has been provided by
    PNN enthusiasts here are compatible with a temperature effect.


    Alain Fournier

    Your thermal effect is total nonsense.

    It is evident that you have a poor knowledge of physics and
    thermodynamics.
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