• Against

    From E.Laureti@user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.space.policy on Wed Aug 20 16:12:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy


    Against those who do not want to experiment to change the failing missile astronautics that cannot even colonize the Moon.

    From talk.origins (August 20, 2025) anonymous Rufus Ruffian says against the PNN.

    It seems everyone here knows enough about Laureti's claims that they
    don't believe him. That's more than Laureti knows about it.

    Technical flaws were pointed out in Laureti's theory and practice. He
    was unable to respond coherently. Meanwhile he thrashes about erraticly, wondering why his machine doesn't work.

    The "invention" has always been ridiculed on Usenet, and ignored in RL. Always will be.

    Laureti reply:

    In the meantime, they must also laugh at the Italian society that properly
    filed my patent F432BA and at those from the EPO (European Patent Office)
    who granted it to me. But this WO2022264177 -
    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT
    THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177 they never examine, they prefer, like all envious, worthless trolls,
    anonymous defamation.

    You laugh and you will be destroyed by yourselves, believers in a
    fake astronautics that won't even colonize the Moon.
    Astronautics
    led by the top of the idiots found in NASA, ESA, and Mr. Musk,
    the rich donkey in physics. A genius of bluster with his comical flying
    suppositories. After all, you give credit to a maxim that fully reflects
    your way of thinking in believing in missile astronautics:
    Vulgus vult decipi,
    ergo decipiatur.
    Not to mention the null colonizing fruits for decades
    that they show even with the billions of dollars they possess.
    The motto is evangelical and says: you will recognize them by their fruits. Finally, you are not even capable of repeating the simple experiment

    that is at the basis of the PNN and that you carefully avoid experimenting

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.jpg

    from

    https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
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  • From Peter Stickney@p_stickney@verizon.net to sci.space.policy on Mon Aug 25 18:18:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:12:27 GMT, E.Laureti wrote:

    Against those who do not want to experiment to change the failing
    missile astronautics that cannot even colonize the Moon.

    From talk.origins (August 20, 2025) anonymous Rufus Ruffian says against
    the PNN.

    It seems everyone here knows enough about Laureti's claims that they
    don't believe him. That's more than Laureti knows about it.

    Technical flaws were pointed out in Laureti's theory and practice. He
    was unable to respond coherently. Meanwhile he thrashes about
    erraticly,
    wondering why his machine doesn't work.

    The "invention" has always been ridiculed on Usenet, and ignored in RL.
    Always will be.

    Laureti reply:

    In the meantime, they must also laugh at the Italian society that
    properly
    filed my patent F432BA and at those from the EPO (European Patent
    Office)
    who granted it to me. But this WO2022264177 -
    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT
    THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    You are aware, of course, that a patent isn't proof that what's being
    aptented actually works - just that you filed the paperwork, paid the
    feed, and nobody else has patented the same thing already.


    You laugh and you will be destroyed by yourselves, believers in a
    fake astronautics that won't even colonize the Moon.
    Astronautics led by the top of the idiots found in NASA, ESA, and Mr.
    Musk,
    the rich donkey in physics. A genius of bluster with his comical flying
    suppositories. After all, you give credit to a maxim that fully
    reflects

    Ah! "Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"
    Admit it, you are Dr. Emilio Lizardo, trying to get home to Planet Ten.
    --

    Peter Stickney
    Java Man knew nothing about coffee
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  • From Von Ottone@pnn@pnn.org to sci.space.policy on Mon Aug 25 20:36:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:18:27 -0000 (UTC), Peter Stickney <p_stickney@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:12:27 GMT, E.Laureti wrote:

    Against those who do not want to experiment to change the failing
    missile astronautics that cannot even colonize the Moon.

    From talk.origins (August 20, 2025) anonymous Rufus Ruffian says against
    the PNN.

    It seems everyone here knows enough about Laureti's claims that they
    don't believe him. That's more than Laureti knows about it.

    Technical flaws were pointed out in Laureti's theory and practice. He
    was unable to respond coherently. Meanwhile he thrashes about
    erraticly,
    wondering why his machine doesn't work.

    The "invention" has always been ridiculed on Usenet, and ignored in RL.
    Always will be.

    Laureti reply:

    In the meantime, they must also laugh at the Italian society that
    properly
    filed my patent F432BA and at those from the EPO (European Patent
    Office)
    who granted it to me. But this WO2022264177 -
    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT
    THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    You are aware, of course, that a patent isn't proof that what's being >aptented actually works - just that you filed the paperwork, paid the
    feed, and nobody else has patented the same thing already.


    You laugh and you will be destroyed by yourselves, believers in a
    fake astronautics that won't even colonize the Moon.
    Astronautics led by the top of the idiots found in NASA, ESA, and Mr.
    Musk,
    the rich donkey in physics. A genius of bluster with his comical flying
    suppositories. After all, you give credit to a maxim that fully
    reflects

    Ah! "Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"
    Admit it, you are Dr. Emilio Lizardo, trying to get home to Planet Ten.


    Who is Dr. Emilio Lizardo?

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  • From E.Laureti@user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.space.policy on Sun Sep 21 05:13:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy


    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> posted:

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:18:27 -0000 (UTC), Peter Stickney <p_stickney@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:12:27 GMT, E.Laureti wrote:

    Against those who do not want to experiment to change the failing
    missile astronautics that cannot even colonize the Moon.

    From talk.origins (August 20, 2025) anonymous Rufus Ruffian says against >> the PNN.

    It seems everyone here knows enough about Laureti's claims that they
    don't believe him. That's more than Laureti knows about it.

    Technical flaws were pointed out in Laureti's theory and practice. He
    was unable to respond coherently. Meanwhile he thrashes about
    erraticly,
    wondering why his machine doesn't work.

    The "invention" has always been ridiculed on Usenet, and ignored in RL. >>> Always will be.

    Laureti reply:

    In the meantime, they must also laugh at the Italian society that
    properly
    filed my patent F432BA and at those from the EPO (European Patent
    Office)
    who granted it to me. But this WO2022264177 -
    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT
    THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    You are aware, of course, that a patent isn't proof that what's being >aptented actually works - just that you filed the paperwork, paid the >feed, and nobody else has patented the same thing already.


    You laugh and you will be destroyed by yourselves, believers in a
    fake astronautics that won't even colonize the Moon.
    Astronautics led by the top of the idiots found in NASA, ESA, and Mr.
    Musk,
    the rich donkey in physics. A genius of bluster with his comical flying
    suppositories. After all, you give credit to a maxim that fully
    reflects

    Ah! "Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"
    Admit it, you are Dr. Emilio Lizardo, trying to get home to Planet Ten.


    Who is Dr. Emilio Lizardo?


    noterai che tutta la ciarla evolve indipendentemente dai brevetti,
    evolve per evitare qualunque dimostrazione sperimentale della PNN :-)
    Del resto neppure vedono che da oltre mezzo secolo (Apollo 11) non c'|? una base
    terrestre sulla Luna fatta usando i missili.
    Neppure vedono di non avere alcuna astronave che sopravviva intera
    a un viaggio attorno alla luna http://www.asps.it/aliena222.htm

    :-)
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  • From Rufus Ruffian@ru@ru.ru to sci.space.policy on Sun Sep 21 01:19:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> posted:

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:18:27 -0000 (UTC), Peter Stickney <p_stickney@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:12:27 GMT, E.Laureti wrote:

    Against those who do not want to experiment to change the failing
    missile astronautics that cannot even colonize the Moon.

    From talk.origins (August 20, 2025) anonymous Rufus Ruffian says against >> the PNN.

    It seems everyone here knows enough about Laureti's claims that they >>> don't believe him. That's more than Laureti knows about it.

    Technical flaws were pointed out in Laureti's theory and practice. He >>> was unable to respond coherently. Meanwhile he thrashes about
    erraticly,
    wondering why his machine doesn't work.

    The "invention" has always been ridiculed on Usenet, and ignored in RL. >>> Always will be.

    Laureti reply:

    In the meantime, they must also laugh at the Italian society that
    properly
    filed my patent F432BA and at those from the EPO (European Patent
    Office)
    who granted it to me. But this WO2022264177 -
    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT
    THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    You are aware, of course, that a patent isn't proof that what's being >aptented actually works - just that you filed the paperwork, paid the >feed, and nobody else has patented the same thing already.


    You laugh and you will be destroyed by yourselves, believers in a
    fake astronautics that won't even colonize the Moon.
    Astronautics led by the top of the idiots found in NASA, ESA, and Mr.
    Musk,
    the rich donkey in physics. A genius of bluster with his comical flying >> suppositories. After all, you give credit to a maxim that fully
    reflects

    Ah! "Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"
    Admit it, you are Dr. Emilio Lizardo, trying to get home to Planet Ten.


    Who is Dr. Emilio Lizardo?


    Who is Dr. E. Laureti?


    noterai che tutta la ciarla evolve indipendentemente dai brevetti,
    evolve per evitare qualunque dimostrazione sperimentale della PNN :-)
    Del resto neppure vedono che da oltre mezzo secolo (Apollo 11) non c'* una base
    terrestre sulla Luna fatta usando i missili.
    Neppure vedono di non avere alcuna astronave che sopravviva intera
    a un viaggio attorno alla luna http://www.asps.it/aliena222.htm


    I see you ran away from me and t.o. to console yourself and convince
    yourself again that you have invented something useful.

    It's not necessary for anyone to do your experiments for you. Do your
    own work. It looks like you can't. All you've done is bark and yap on
    Usenet about what a wonderful invention PNN will be... if only you can
    ever make it work.

    But you can not make it work, for the reasons I explained to you, and
    which you apparently couldn't understand. So instead, you howl at the
    moon. I guess that's the next best thing to going there.
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  • From E.Laureti@user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.space.policy on Sun Sep 21 08:46:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy


    Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> posted:

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:18:27 -0000 (UTC), Peter Stickney <p_stickney@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:12:27 GMT, E.Laureti wrote:

    Against those who do not want to experiment to change the failing
    missile astronautics that cannot even colonize the Moon.

    From talk.origins (August 20, 2025) anonymous Rufus Ruffian says against
    the PNN.

    It seems everyone here knows enough about Laureti's claims that they >>> don't believe him. That's more than Laureti knows about it.

    Technical flaws were pointed out in Laureti's theory and practice. He >>> was unable to respond coherently. Meanwhile he thrashes about
    erraticly,
    wondering why his machine doesn't work.

    The "invention" has always been ridiculed on Usenet, and ignored in RL.
    Always will be.

    Laureti reply:

    In the meantime, they must also laugh at the Italian society that
    properly
    filed my patent F432BA and at those from the EPO (European Patent
    Office)
    who granted it to me. But this WO2022264177 -
    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT
    THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    You are aware, of course, that a patent isn't proof that what's being >aptented actually works - just that you filed the paperwork, paid the >feed, and nobody else has patented the same thing already.


    You laugh and you will be destroyed by yourselves, believers in a
    fake astronautics that won't even colonize the Moon.
    Astronautics led by the top of the idiots found in NASA, ESA, and Mr. >> Musk,
    the rich donkey in physics. A genius of bluster with his comical flying
    suppositories. After all, you give credit to a maxim that fully
    reflects

    Ah! "Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"
    Admit it, you are Dr. Emilio Lizardo, trying to get home to Planet Ten.


    Who is Dr. Emilio Lizardo?


    Who is Dr. E. Laureti?


    noterai che tutta la ciarla evolve indipendentemente dai brevetti,
    evolve per evitare qualunque dimostrazione sperimentale della PNN :-)
    Del resto neppure vedono che da oltre mezzo secolo (Apollo 11) non c'|? una base
    terrestre sulla Luna fatta usando i missili.
    Neppure vedono di non avere alcuna astronave che sopravviva intera
    a un viaggio attorno alla luna http://www.asps.it/aliena222.htm


    I see you ran away from me and t.o. to console yourself and convince
    yourself again that you have invented something useful.

    It's not necessary for anyone to do your experiments for you. Do your
    own work. It looks like you can't. All you've done is bark and yap on Usenet about what a wonderful invention PNN will be... if only you can
    ever make it work.

    But you can not make it work, for the reasons I explained to you, and
    which you apparently couldn't understand. So instead, you howl at the
    moon. I guess that's the next best thing to going there.

    Aliena PNN is already working, just come and see it. http://www.asps.it/vol45.htm
    But I don't like wasting
    time with those who can't buy it.
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  • From Von Ottone@pnn@pnn.org to sci.space.policy on Sun Sep 21 13:18:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 01:19:23 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> posted:

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:18:27 -0000 (UTC), Peter Stickney
    <p_stickney@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:12:27 GMT, E.Laureti wrote:

    Against those who do not want to experiment to change the failing
    missile astronautics that cannot even colonize the Moon.

    From talk.origins (August 20, 2025) anonymous Rufus Ruffian says against
    the PNN.

    It seems everyone here knows enough about Laureti's claims that they >> > >>> don't believe him. That's more than Laureti knows about it.

    Technical flaws were pointed out in Laureti's theory and practice. He >> > >>> was unable to respond coherently. Meanwhile he thrashes about
    erraticly,
    wondering why his machine doesn't work.

    The "invention" has always been ridiculed on Usenet, and ignored in RL.
    Always will be.

    Laureti reply:

    In the meantime, they must also laugh at the Italian society that
    properly
    filed my patent F432BA and at those from the EPO (European Patent
    Office)
    who granted it to me. But this WO2022264177 -
    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT
    THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    You are aware, of course, that a patent isn't proof that what's being
    aptented actually works - just that you filed the paperwork, paid the
    feed, and nobody else has patented the same thing already.


    You laugh and you will be destroyed by yourselves, believers in a
    fake astronautics that won't even colonize the Moon.
    Astronautics led by the top of the idiots found in NASA, ESA, and Mr. >> > >> Musk,
    the rich donkey in physics. A genius of bluster with his comical flying >> > >> suppositories. After all, you give credit to a maxim that fully
    reflects

    Ah! "Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"
    Admit it, you are Dr. Emilio Lizardo, trying to get home to Planet Ten. >> >

    Who is Dr. Emilio Lizardo?


    Who is Dr. E. Laureti?


    noterai che tutta la ciarla evolve indipendentemente dai brevetti,
    evolve per evitare qualunque dimostrazione sperimentale della PNN :-)
    Del resto neppure vedono che da oltre mezzo secolo (Apollo 11) non c'* una base
    terrestre sulla Luna fatta usando i missili.
    Neppure vedono di non avere alcuna astronave che sopravviva intera
    a un viaggio attorno alla luna http://www.asps.it/aliena222.htm


    I see you ran away from me and t.o. to console yourself and convince
    yourself again that you have invented something useful.

    It's not necessary for anyone to do your experiments for you. Do your
    own work. It looks like you can't. All you've done is bark and yap on >Usenet about what a wonderful invention PNN will be... if only you can
    ever make it work.

    But you can not make it work, for the reasons I explained to you, and
    which you apparently couldn't understand. So instead, you howl at the
    moon. I guess that's the next best thing to going there.

    You are an incompetent who thinks he his Leonardo da Vinci and can
    give advice to everbody whoo works hard to invent new thinfs.

    Just hexilarant.
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  • From Rufus Ruffian@ru@ru.ru to sci.space.policy on Sun Sep 21 23:13:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> posted:

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:18:27 -0000 (UTC), Peter Stickney <p_stickney@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:12:27 GMT, E.Laureti wrote:

    Against those who do not want to experiment to change the failing
    missile astronautics that cannot even colonize the Moon.

    From talk.origins (August 20, 2025) anonymous Rufus Ruffian says against
    the PNN.

    It seems everyone here knows enough about Laureti's claims that they
    don't believe him. That's more than Laureti knows about it.

    Technical flaws were pointed out in Laureti's theory and practice. He
    was unable to respond coherently. Meanwhile he thrashes about
    erraticly,
    wondering why his machine doesn't work.

    The "invention" has always been ridiculed on Usenet, and ignored in RL.
    Always will be.

    Laureti reply:

    In the meantime, they must also laugh at the Italian society that
    properly
    filed my patent F432BA and at those from the EPO (European Patent >> Office)
    who granted it to me. But this WO2022264177 -
    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT >> THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    You are aware, of course, that a patent isn't proof that what's being >aptented actually works - just that you filed the paperwork, paid the >feed, and nobody else has patented the same thing already.


    You laugh and you will be destroyed by yourselves, believers in a
    fake astronautics that won't even colonize the Moon.
    Astronautics led by the top of the idiots found in NASA, ESA, and Mr.
    Musk,
    the rich donkey in physics. A genius of bluster with his comical flying
    suppositories. After all, you give credit to a maxim that fully
    reflects

    Ah! "Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"
    Admit it, you are Dr. Emilio Lizardo, trying to get home to Planet Ten.


    Who is Dr. Emilio Lizardo?


    Who is Dr. E. Laureti?


    noterai che tutta la ciarla evolve indipendentemente dai brevetti, evolve per evitare qualunque dimostrazione sperimentale della PNN :-)
    Del resto neppure vedono che da oltre mezzo secolo (Apollo 11) non c'* una base
    terrestre sulla Luna fatta usando i missili.
    Neppure vedono di non avere alcuna astronave che sopravviva intera
    a un viaggio attorno alla luna http://www.asps.it/aliena222.htm


    I see you ran away from me and t.o. to console yourself and convince yourself again that you have invented something useful.

    It's not necessary for anyone to do your experiments for you. Do your
    own work. It looks like you can't. All you've done is bark and yap on Usenet about what a wonderful invention PNN will be... if only you can
    ever make it work.

    But you can not make it work, for the reasons I explained to you, and
    which you apparently couldn't understand. So instead, you howl at the moon. I guess that's the next best thing to going there.

    Aliena PNN is already working, just come and see it. http://www.asps.it/vol45.htm
    But I don't like wasting
    time with those who can't buy it.


    Have you figured out how to use a balun yet?

    Or do you continue to ground 1 element of the dipole?

    Your rocket science is a comedy of errors.
    Maybe your spaceship will work better if you pray for it.
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  • From Von Ottone@pnn@pnn.org to sci.space.policy on Mon Sep 22 09:18:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 23:13:55 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> posted:

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:18:27 -0000 (UTC), Peter Stickney
    <p_stickney@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:12:27 GMT, E.Laureti wrote:

    Against those who do not want to experiment to change the failing >> > > > >> missile astronautics that cannot even colonize the Moon.

    From talk.origins (August 20, 2025) anonymous Rufus Ruffian says against
    the PNN.

    It seems everyone here knows enough about Laureti's claims that they
    don't believe him. That's more than Laureti knows about it.

    Technical flaws were pointed out in Laureti's theory and practice. He
    was unable to respond coherently. Meanwhile he thrashes about
    erraticly,
    wondering why his machine doesn't work.

    The "invention" has always been ridiculed on Usenet, and ignored in RL.
    Always will be.

    Laureti reply:

    In the meantime, they must also laugh at the Italian society that >> > > > >> properly
    filed my patent F432BA and at those from the EPO (European Patent >> > > > >> Office)
    who granted it to me. But this WO2022264177 -
    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT >> > > > >> THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    You are aware, of course, that a patent isn't proof that what's being
    aptented actually works - just that you filed the paperwork, paid the
    feed, and nobody else has patented the same thing already.


    You laugh and you will be destroyed by yourselves, believers in a >> > > > >> fake astronautics that won't even colonize the Moon.
    Astronautics led by the top of the idiots found in NASA, ESA, and Mr.
    Musk,
    the rich donkey in physics. A genius of bluster with his comical flying
    suppositories. After all, you give credit to a maxim that fully
    reflects

    Ah! "Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"
    Admit it, you are Dr. Emilio Lizardo, trying to get home to Planet Ten.


    Who is Dr. Emilio Lizardo?


    Who is Dr. E. Laureti?


    noterai che tutta la ciarla evolve indipendentemente dai brevetti,
    evolve per evitare qualunque dimostrazione sperimentale della PNN :-)
    Del resto neppure vedono che da oltre mezzo secolo (Apollo 11) non c'* una base
    terrestre sulla Luna fatta usando i missili.
    Neppure vedono di non avere alcuna astronave che sopravviva intera
    a un viaggio attorno alla luna http://www.asps.it/aliena222.htm


    I see you ran away from me and t.o. to console yourself and convince
    yourself again that you have invented something useful.

    It's not necessary for anyone to do your experiments for you. Do your
    own work. It looks like you can't. All you've done is bark and yap on
    Usenet about what a wonderful invention PNN will be... if only you can
    ever make it work.

    But you can not make it work, for the reasons I explained to you, and
    which you apparently couldn't understand. So instead, you howl at the
    moon. I guess that's the next best thing to going there.

    Aliena PNN is already working, just come and see it.
    http://www.asps.it/vol45.htm
    But I don't like wasting
    time with those who can't buy it.


    Have you figured out how to use a balun yet?

    We are not Radio Amateurs


    Or do you continue to ground 1 element of the dipole?

    You just don't understand PNN.


    Your rocket science is a comedy of errors.
    Maybe your spaceship will work better if you pray for it.


    I will pray for you!
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  • From Rufus Ruffian@ru@ru.ru to sci.space.policy on Mon Sep 22 14:34:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 23:13:55 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> posted:

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:18:27 -0000 (UTC), Peter Stickney
    <p_stickney@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:12:27 GMT, E.Laureti wrote:

    Against those who do not want to experiment to change the failing >> > > > >> missile astronautics that cannot even colonize the Moon.

    From talk.origins (August 20, 2025) anonymous Rufus Ruffian says against
    the PNN.

    It seems everyone here knows enough about Laureti's claims that they
    don't believe him. That's more than Laureti knows about it.

    Technical flaws were pointed out in Laureti's theory and practice. He
    was unable to respond coherently. Meanwhile he thrashes about
    erraticly,
    wondering why his machine doesn't work.

    The "invention" has always been ridiculed on Usenet, and ignored in RL.
    Always will be.

    Laureti reply:

    In the meantime, they must also laugh at the Italian society that >> > > > >> properly
    filed my patent F432BA and at those from the EPO (European Patent
    Office)
    who granted it to me. But this WO2022264177 -
    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT
    THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    You are aware, of course, that a patent isn't proof that what's being
    aptented actually works - just that you filed the paperwork, paid the
    feed, and nobody else has patented the same thing already.


    You laugh and you will be destroyed by yourselves, believers in a >> > > > >> fake astronautics that won't even colonize the Moon.
    Astronautics led by the top of the idiots found in NASA, ESA, and Mr.
    Musk,
    the rich donkey in physics. A genius of bluster with his comical flying
    suppositories. After all, you give credit to a maxim that fully >> > > > >> reflects

    Ah! "Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"
    Admit it, you are Dr. Emilio Lizardo, trying to get home to Planet Ten.


    Who is Dr. Emilio Lizardo?


    Who is Dr. E. Laureti?


    noterai che tutta la ciarla evolve indipendentemente dai brevetti,
    evolve per evitare qualunque dimostrazione sperimentale della PNN :-) >> > > Del resto neppure vedono che da oltre mezzo secolo (Apollo 11) non c'* una base
    terrestre sulla Luna fatta usando i missili.
    Neppure vedono di non avere alcuna astronave che sopravviva intera
    a un viaggio attorno alla luna http://www.asps.it/aliena222.htm


    I see you ran away from me and t.o. to console yourself and convince
    yourself again that you have invented something useful.

    It's not necessary for anyone to do your experiments for you. Do your >> > own work. It looks like you can't. All you've done is bark and yap on >> > Usenet about what a wonderful invention PNN will be... if only you can >> > ever make it work.

    But you can not make it work, for the reasons I explained to you, and
    which you apparently couldn't understand. So instead, you howl at the >> > moon. I guess that's the next best thing to going there.

    Aliena PNN is already working, just come and see it.
    http://www.asps.it/vol45.htm
    But I don't like wasting
    time with those who can't buy it.


    Have you figured out how to use a balun yet?

    We are not Radio Amateurs


    I know. You could learn a lot from amateur radio operators.

    <https://www.amazon.com/dp/0764559877>


    Or do you continue to ground 1 element of the dipole?

    You just don't understand PNN.

    You don't understand basic electricity.


    Your rocket science is a comedy of errors.
    Maybe your spaceship will work better if you pray for it.


    I will pray for you!

    Thanks! <crosses self>

    I feel better already!
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  • From E.Laureti@user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.space.policy on Mon Sep 22 22:04:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy


    Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:

    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 23:13:55 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> posted:

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:18:27 -0000 (UTC), Peter Stickney
    <p_stickney@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:12:27 GMT, E.Laureti wrote:

    Against those who do not want to experiment to change the failing
    missile astronautics that cannot even colonize the Moon.

    From talk.origins (August 20, 2025) anonymous Rufus Ruffian says against
    the PNN.

    It seems everyone here knows enough about Laureti's claims that they
    don't believe him. That's more than Laureti knows about it.

    Technical flaws were pointed out in Laureti's theory and practice. He
    was unable to respond coherently. Meanwhile he thrashes about >> > > > >>> erraticly,
    wondering why his machine doesn't work.

    The "invention" has always been ridiculed on Usenet, and ignored in RL.
    Always will be.

    Laureti reply:

    In the meantime, they must also laugh at the Italian society that
    properly
    filed my patent F432BA and at those from the EPO (European Patent
    Office)
    who granted it to me. But this WO2022264177 -
    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT
    THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    You are aware, of course, that a patent isn't proof that what's being
    aptented actually works - just that you filed the paperwork, paid the
    feed, and nobody else has patented the same thing already.


    You laugh and you will be destroyed by yourselves, believers in a
    fake astronautics that won't even colonize the Moon.
    Astronautics led by the top of the idiots found in NASA, ESA, and Mr.
    Musk,
    the rich donkey in physics. A genius of bluster with his comical flying
    suppositories. After all, you give credit to a maxim that fully
    reflects

    Ah! "Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"
    Admit it, you are Dr. Emilio Lizardo, trying to get home to Planet Ten.


    Who is Dr. Emilio Lizardo?


    Who is Dr. E. Laureti?


    noterai che tutta la ciarla evolve indipendentemente dai brevetti, >> > > evolve per evitare qualunque dimostrazione sperimentale della PNN :-)
    Del resto neppure vedono che da oltre mezzo secolo (Apollo 11) non c'|? una base
    terrestre sulla Luna fatta usando i missili.
    Neppure vedono di non avere alcuna astronave che sopravviva intera >> > > a un viaggio attorno alla luna http://www.asps.it/aliena222.htm


    I see you ran away from me and t.o. to console yourself and convince >> > yourself again that you have invented something useful.

    It's not necessary for anyone to do your experiments for you. Do your >> > own work. It looks like you can't. All you've done is bark and yap on
    Usenet about what a wonderful invention PNN will be... if only you can >> > ever make it work.

    But you can not make it work, for the reasons I explained to you, and >> > which you apparently couldn't understand. So instead, you howl at the >> > moon. I guess that's the next best thing to going there.

    Aliena PNN is already working, just come and see it.
    http://www.asps.it/vol45.htm
    But I don't like wasting
    time with those who can't buy it.


    Have you figured out how to use a balun yet?

    We are not Radio Amateurs


    I know. You could learn a lot from amateur radio operators.

    <https://www.amazon.com/dp/0764559877>


    Or do you continue to ground 1 element of the dipole?

    You just don't understand PNN.

    You don't understand basic electricity.


    Your rocket science is a comedy of errors.
    Maybe your spaceship will work better if you pray for it.


    I will pray for you!

    Thanks! <crosses self>

    I feel better already!


    Dimostrazione matematica di E.Fabri di violazione del III di Newton in elettrodinamica

    http://www.sagredo.eu/varie/terzopr-em.pdf

    from:

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  • From E.Laureti@user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.space.policy on Tue Sep 23 05:43:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy


    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> posted:

    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 01:19:23 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> posted:

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:18:27 -0000 (UTC), Peter Stickney
    <p_stickney@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:12:27 GMT, E.Laureti wrote:

    Against those who do not want to experiment to change the failing
    missile astronautics that cannot even colonize the Moon.

    From talk.origins (August 20, 2025) anonymous Rufus Ruffian says against
    the PNN.

    It seems everyone here knows enough about Laureti's claims that they >> > >>> don't believe him. That's more than Laureti knows about it.

    Technical flaws were pointed out in Laureti's theory and practice. He
    was unable to respond coherently. Meanwhile he thrashes about
    erraticly,
    wondering why his machine doesn't work.

    The "invention" has always been ridiculed on Usenet, and ignored in RL.
    Always will be.

    Laureti reply:

    In the meantime, they must also laugh at the Italian society that
    properly
    filed my patent F432BA and at those from the EPO (European Patent
    Office)
    who granted it to me. But this WO2022264177 -
    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT
    THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    You are aware, of course, that a patent isn't proof that what's being >> > >aptented actually works - just that you filed the paperwork, paid the >> > >feed, and nobody else has patented the same thing already.


    You laugh and you will be destroyed by yourselves, believers in a
    fake astronautics that won't even colonize the Moon.
    Astronautics led by the top of the idiots found in NASA, ESA, and Mr. >> > >> Musk,
    the rich donkey in physics. A genius of bluster with his comical flying
    suppositories. After all, you give credit to a maxim that fully
    reflects

    Ah! "Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"
    Admit it, you are Dr. Emilio Lizardo, trying to get home to Planet Ten. >> >

    Who is Dr. Emilio Lizardo?


    Who is Dr. E. Laureti?


    noterai che tutta la ciarla evolve indipendentemente dai brevetti,
    evolve per evitare qualunque dimostrazione sperimentale della PNN :-)
    Del resto neppure vedono che da oltre mezzo secolo (Apollo 11) non c'|? una base
    terrestre sulla Luna fatta usando i missili.
    Neppure vedono di non avere alcuna astronave che sopravviva intera
    a un viaggio attorno alla luna http://www.asps.it/aliena222.htm


    I see you ran away from me and t.o. to console yourself and convince >yourself again that you have invented something useful.

    It's not necessary for anyone to do your experiments for you. Do your
    own work. It looks like you can't. All you've done is bark and yap on >Usenet about what a wonderful invention PNN will be... if only you can
    ever make it work.

    But you can not make it work, for the reasons I explained to you, and
    which you apparently couldn't understand. So instead, you howl at the >moon. I guess that's the next best thing to going there.

    You are an incompetent who thinks he his Leonardo da Vinci and can
    give advice to everbody whoo works hard to invent new thinfs.

    Just hexilarant.

    Despite the billions spent on missile astronautics, they still
    do not have a human outpost on the moon. The evangelical
    motto applies to them: you will recognize them by their fruits.
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  • From Von Ottone@pnn@pnn.org to sci.space.policy on Tue Sep 23 07:51:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    On Mon, 22 Sep 2025 14:34:36 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 23:13:55 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> posted:

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:18:27 -0000 (UTC), Peter Stickney
    <p_stickney@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:12:27 GMT, E.Laureti wrote:

    Against those who do not want to experiment to change the failing
    missile astronautics that cannot even colonize the Moon.

    From talk.origins (August 20, 2025) anonymous Rufus Ruffian says against
    the PNN.

    It seems everyone here knows enough about Laureti's claims that they
    don't believe him. That's more than Laureti knows about it.

    Technical flaws were pointed out in Laureti's theory and practice. He
    was unable to respond coherently. Meanwhile he thrashes about >> >> > > > >>> erraticly,
    wondering why his machine doesn't work.

    The "invention" has always been ridiculed on Usenet, and ignored in RL.
    Always will be.

    Laureti reply:

    In the meantime, they must also laugh at the Italian society that
    properly
    filed my patent F432BA and at those from the EPO (European Patent
    Office)
    who granted it to me. But this WO2022264177 -
    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT
    THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    You are aware, of course, that a patent isn't proof that what's being
    aptented actually works - just that you filed the paperwork, paid the
    feed, and nobody else has patented the same thing already.


    You laugh and you will be destroyed by yourselves, believers in a
    fake astronautics that won't even colonize the Moon.
    Astronautics led by the top of the idiots found in NASA, ESA, and Mr.
    Musk,
    the rich donkey in physics. A genius of bluster with his comical flying
    suppositories. After all, you give credit to a maxim that fully >> >> > > > >> reflects

    Ah! "Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"
    Admit it, you are Dr. Emilio Lizardo, trying to get home to Planet Ten.


    Who is Dr. Emilio Lizardo?


    Who is Dr. E. Laureti?


    noterai che tutta la ciarla evolve indipendentemente dai brevetti, >> >> > > evolve per evitare qualunque dimostrazione sperimentale della PNN :-) >> >> > > Del resto neppure vedono che da oltre mezzo secolo (Apollo 11) non c'* una base
    terrestre sulla Luna fatta usando i missili.
    Neppure vedono di non avere alcuna astronave che sopravviva intera
    a un viaggio attorno alla luna http://www.asps.it/aliena222.htm


    I see you ran away from me and t.o. to console yourself and convince
    yourself again that you have invented something useful.

    It's not necessary for anyone to do your experiments for you. Do your >> >> > own work. It looks like you can't. All you've done is bark and yap on >> >> > Usenet about what a wonderful invention PNN will be... if only you can >> >> > ever make it work.

    But you can not make it work, for the reasons I explained to you, and >> >> > which you apparently couldn't understand. So instead, you howl at the >> >> > moon. I guess that's the next best thing to going there.

    Aliena PNN is already working, just come and see it.
    http://www.asps.it/vol45.htm
    But I don't like wasting
    time with those who can't buy it.


    Have you figured out how to use a balun yet?

    We are not Radio Amateurs


    I know. You could learn a lot from amateur radio operators.

    Wrong!


    <https://www.amazon.com/dp/0764559877>


    Or do you continue to ground 1 element of the dipole?

    You just don't understand PNN.

    You don't understand basic electricity.

    Wrong!



    Your rocket science is a comedy of errors.
    Maybe your spaceship will work better if you pray for it.


    I will pray for you!

    Thanks! <crosses self>

    I feel better already!

    Amen!
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  • From Rufus@ru@ru.ru to sci.space.policy on Tue Sep 23 08:40:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Sep 2025 14:34:36 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 23:13:55 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

    Have you figured out how to use a balun yet?

    We are not Radio Amateurs


    I know. You could learn a lot from amateur radio operators.

    Wrong!


    Don't be so pessimistic. At least try to learn something.

    Start here:
    <https://www.amazon.com/dp/0764559877>


    Or do you continue to ground 1 element of the dipole?

    You just don't understand PNN.

    You don't understand basic electricity.

    Wrong!

    What are your magnets pushing on?




    Your rocket science is a comedy of errors.
    Maybe your spaceship will work better if you pray for it.


    I will pray for you!

    Thanks! <crosses self>

    I feel better already!

    Amen!
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  • From Von Ottone@pnn@pnn.org to sci.space.policy on Tue Sep 23 20:06:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 08:40:45 -0700, Rufus <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Sep 2025 14:34:36 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

    Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 23:13:55 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

    Have you figured out how to use a balun yet?

    We are not Radio Amateurs


    I know. You could learn a lot from amateur radio operators.

    Wrong!


    Don't be so pessimistic. At least try to learn something.

    Start here:
    <https://www.amazon.com/dp/0764559877>


    Or do you continue to ground 1 element of the dipole?

    You just don't understand PNN.

    You don't understand basic electricity.

    Wrong!

    What are your magnets pushing on?




    Your rocket science is a comedy of errors.
    Maybe your spaceship will work better if you pray for it.


    I will pray for you!

    Thanks! <crosses self>

    I feel better already!

    Amen!



    https://ibb.co/JWTTrgwR
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