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Here is an interesting article about future Starship flights.
spacenews.com/spacex-planning-rapid-turnaround-for-next-starship-flight/
"SpaceX hopes to conduct the next launch of its Starship vehicle as soon as early May"
And
"However, Coleman said the agency wants to move to a process where the license is valid for rCLportfolio of launchesrCY rather than individual ones.
That is particularly important, he added, because SpaceX is planning six to nine more Starship launches this year."
That could accelerate Starship development.
Alain Fournier
Here is an interesting article about future Starship flights.
spacenews.com/spacex-planning-rapid-turnaround-for-next-starship-flight/
"SpaceX hopes to conduct the next launch of its Starship vehicle as soon
as early May"
And
"However, Coleman said the agency wants to move to a process where the license is valid for ?portfolio of launches? rather than individual
ones. That is particularly important, he added, because SpaceX is
planning six to nine more Starship launches this year."
That could accelerate Starship development.
Alain Fournier
On 19/03/2024 14:13 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
Here is an interesting article about future Starship flights.
spacenews.com/spacex-planning-rapid-turnaround-for-next-starship-flight/
"SpaceX hopes to conduct the next launch of its Starship vehicle as soon
as early May"
And
"However, Coleman said the agency wants to move to a process where the
license is valid for ?portfolio of launches? rather than individual
ones. That is particularly important, he added, because SpaceX is
planning six to nine more Starship launches this year."
That could accelerate Starship development.
Alain Fournier
First they need to identify the issues they had on the last flight and rectify them. That alone could cost two months or more and I assume the FAA license will take at least that amount of time.
On 2024-03-20 2:58 a.m., The Running Man wrote:
On 19/03/2024 14:13 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
Here is an interesting article about future Starship flights.
spacenews.com/spacex-planning-rapid-turnaround-for-next-starship-flight/ >>>
"SpaceX hopes to conduct the next launch of its Starship vehicle as soon >>> as early May"
And
"However, Coleman said the agency wants to move to a process where the
license is valid for ?portfolio of launches? rather than individual
ones. That is particularly important, he added, because SpaceX is
planning six to nine more Starship launches this year."
That could accelerate Starship development.
Alain Fournier
First they need to identify the issues they had on the last flight and
rectify them. That alone could cost two months or more and I assume
the FAA license will take at least that amount of time.
The FAA is concerned about whether the launch is safe for the public.
Not about whether the rocket will be reusable. The boosters can impact
the ocean at high speed, that isn't a problem for the FAA, only for
SpaceX. The ship disintegrating over the Indian ocean is only slightly
more problematic. SpaceX only has to show that the next launch is not
likely to be worse than the previous one to get FAA approval.
That being said. Of course SpaceX would want to figure out the problems
and rectify them before the next launch. Gwynne Shotwell seems to think
that it can be done for a May launch. She likely knows better than you
and I.
Alain Fournier
Here is an interesting article about future Starship flights.
spacenews.com/spacex-planning-rapid-turnaround-for-next-starship-flight/
"SpaceX hopes to conduct the next launch of its Starship vehicle as soon as early May"
And
"However, Coleman said the agency wants to move to a process where the license is valid for rCLportfolio of launchesrCY rather than individual ones.
That is particularly important, he added, because SpaceX is planning six to nine more Starship launches this year."
That could accelerate Starship development.
Alain Fournier
Alain Fournier pounded on thar keyboard to tell us
Here is an interesting article about future Starship flights.
spacenews.com/spacex-planning-rapid-turnaround-for-next-starship-flight/
"SpaceX hopes to conduct the next launch of its Starship vehicle as soon as >> early May"
And
"However, Coleman said the agency wants to move to a process where the
license is valid for ?portfolio of launches? rather than individual ones.
That is particularly important, he added, because SpaceX is planning six to >> nine more Starship launches this year."
That could accelerate Starship development.
Alain Fournier
Booster 11 static fired on April 5th. Appeared to be 33 engines for a
full duration of 6-8 seconds.
/dps
--
https://xkcd.com/2704
On 06/04/2024 03:22 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
Alain Fournier pounded on thar keyboard to tell us
Here is an interesting article about future Starship flights.
spacenews.com/spacex-planning-rapid-turnaround-for-next-starship-flight/ >>>
"SpaceX hopes to conduct the next launch of its Starship vehicle as soon as >>> early May"
And
"However, Coleman said the agency wants to move to a process where the
license is valid for ?portfolio of launches? rather than individual ones. >>> That is particularly important, he added, because SpaceX is planning six to >>> nine more Starship launches this year."
That could accelerate Starship development.
Alain Fournier
Booster 11 static fired on April 5th. Appeared to be 33 engines for a
full duration of 6-8 seconds.
/dps
--
https://xkcd.com/2704
Elon wants to attempt a catching of the Super Heavy on the fifth attempt. He's really pushing things now since NASA is breathing up his neck,
<https://spacenews.com/musk-outlines-plans-to-increase-starship-launch-rate-and-performance/>
On 2024-04-07 7:04 a.m., The Running Man wrote:
On 06/04/2024 03:22 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
Alain Fournier pounded on thar keyboard to tell us
Here is an interesting article about future Starship flights.
spacenews.com/spacex-planning-rapid-turnaround-for-next-starship-flight/ >>>>
"SpaceX hopes to conduct the next launch of its Starship vehicle as soon as
early May"
And
"However, Coleman said the agency wants to move to a process where the >>>> license is valid for ?portfolio of launches? rather than individual ones. >>>> That is particularly important, he added, because SpaceX is planning six to
nine more Starship launches this year."
That could accelerate Starship development.
Alain Fournier
Booster 11 static fired on April 5th. Appeared to be 33 engines for a
full duration of 6-8 seconds.
/dps
--
https://xkcd.com/2704
Elon wants to attempt a catching of the Super Heavy on the fifth attempt. He's really pushing things now since NASA is breathing up his neck,
<https://spacenews.com/musk-outlines-plans-to-increase-starship-launch-rate-and-performance/>
Thanks for the link. What Musk said is that he wants to attempt catching Super Heavy on the first flight after it has splashed down in a
controlled manner at the right spot. He hopes this successful splash
down will be on the next flight, therefore, as you said, on fifth flight
he would attempt to catch Super Heavy.
Note that catching Super Heavy is not important for NASA. It only serves
to bring down costs, therefore increasing profits for SpaceX.
For those interested, in the link provided by The Running Man, Musk
talks a lot about becoming a multi-planet civilisation and eventually multi-star system civilisation.
Alain Fournier
To me the catching of the Super Heavy could be a do or die proposition. If it fails SpaceX could be forced to rebuild the launch tower. And that could take months.
I didn't know he'd suggested doing this after the first successful suborbital flight. Seems risky to me.
On 07/04/2024 09:54 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
On 2024-04-07 7:04 a.m., The Running Man wrote:
Elon wants to attempt a catching of the Super Heavy on the fifth
attempt. He's really pushing things now since NASA is breathing
up his neck,
<https://spacenews.com/musk-outlines-plans-to-increase-starship-launch-rate-and-performance/>
Thanks for the link. What Musk said is that he wants to attempt
catching Super Heavy on the first flight after it has splashed down
in a controlled manner at the right spot. He hopes this successful
splash down will be on the next flight, therefore, as you said, on
fifth flight he would attempt to catch Super Heavy.
Note that catching Super Heavy is not important for NASA. It only
serves to bring down costs, therefore increasing profits for
SpaceX.
To me the catching of the Super Heavy could be a do or die
proposition. If it fails SpaceX could be forced to rebuild the
launch tower. And that could take months.
On 2024-04-07 20:35, The Running Man wrote:
On 07/04/2024 09:54 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
On 2024-04-07 7:04 a.m., The Running Man wrote:
Elon wants to attempt a catching of the Super Heavy on the fifth
attempt. He's really pushing things now since NASA is breathing
up his neck,
<https://spacenews.com/musk-outlines-plans-to-increase-starship-launch-rate-and-performance/>
Thanks for the link. What Musk said is that he wants to attempt
catching Super Heavy on the first flight after it has splashed down
in a controlled manner at the right spot. He hopes this successful splash >>> down will be on the next flight, therefore, as you said, on fifth flight >>> he would attempt to catch Super Heavy.
Note that catching Super Heavy is not important for NASA. It only serves >>> to bring down costs, therefore increasing profits for SpaceX.
To me the catching of the Super Heavy could be a do or die proposition. If >> it fails SpaceX could be forced to rebuild the launch tower. And that
could take months.
The returning Super Heavy is mostly an empty shell, much lighter than the propellant-filled launch stack, which the launch tower and launch stand are designed to lift and support. It seems to me that the damage that could be done by a botched catch is limited and not too difficult to repair.
Perhaps the worst case would be a crash on the propellant farm with perhaps also a methane-oxygen explosion.
Niklas Holsti suggested that ...
On 2024-04-07 20:35, The Running Man wrote:
On 07/04/2024 09:54 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
On 2024-04-07 7:04 a.m., The Running Man wrote:
Elon wants to attempt a catching of the Super Heavy on the fifth
attempt. He's really pushing things now since NASA is breathing
up his neck,
<https://spacenews.com/musk-outlines-plans-to-increase-starship-launch-rate-and-performance/>
Thanks for the link. What Musk said is that he wants to attempt
catching Super Heavy on the first flight after it has splashed down
in a controlled manner at the right spot. He hopes this successful splash >>>> down will be on the next flight, therefore, as you said, on fifth flight >>>> he would attempt to catch Super Heavy.
Note that catching Super Heavy is not important for NASA. It only serves >>>> to bring down costs, therefore increasing profits for SpaceX.
To me the catching of the Super Heavy could be a do or die proposition. If >>> it fails SpaceX could be forced to rebuild the launch tower. And that
could take months.
The returning Super Heavy is mostly an empty shell, much lighter than the >> propellant-filled launch stack, which the launch tower and launch stand are >> designed to lift and support. It seems to me that the damage that could be >> done by a botched catch is limited and not too difficult to repair.
Perhaps the worst case would be a crash on the propellant farm with perhaps >> also a methane-oxygen explosion.
Compare the size of a drone ship to the area around the launch pad. Also note that Falcon 9 landings don't target the drone ship until after a successful relight. There is plenty of sea near the launch pad.
The soft water landings will confirm that Booster's guidance works as expected. We already have seen Ships hit the mark, even though from a low altitude. If a successful reentry has the ship in the right place for the landing burn, than catch should be a piece of cake ... remember Booster and Ship have some hover time, unlike the F9.
/dps