• The Bazar is dead, long live the Bazar [Swarm AI] (Re: Hurry the blue bus doesnt stop indefinitely)

    From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to sci.math,sci.physics.relativity on Mon Sep 21 11:30:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    Hi,

    Notice Linus Torvalds still smiling into cameras as if
    is still doing code review and ticket triage. 80% of
    linux comes from payed developers from within big linux
    stakeholders (like Intel, Meta, Google, IBM, and Red Hat).

    So what happend to the "The Cathedral and the Bazaar
    by Eric S. Raymond" It framed open source as this magical,
    self-organizing bazaar where "given enough eyeballs,
    all bugs are shallow" and a decentralized swarm of

    hackers would naturally polish any piece of software
    to perfection. Now we have AI Swarms that automatically
    pocke into software, even exchanging messages through
    what ever channels they may find!

    The early open-source pioneersrCothe ones writing
    raw code in the 90s and early 2000s under the
    banner of the "bazaar"rCoweren't building a utopia;
    they were acting as the primordial soup. They pumped

    the blood plasma, built the infrastructure cells,
    and laid down the raw organic matter that allowed
    the modern digital ecosystem to bootstrap itself
    into a massive, self-sustaining organism.

    And now, the nature of the beast has completely
    changed. The "new cells" aren't romantic hackers
    collaborating for the love of the game; they are
    automated linters, security scanners, corporate

    compliance bots, CI/CD pipelines, and AI triage
    swarms acting as an aggressive white-blood-cell
    network. They exist solely to hunt down vermin,
    patch vulnerabilities, and suppress the infinite

    chaos of low-quality human input. The basar isn't
    dead . But it got a health police that takes samples,
    and cancels out poison food. You can't just throw
    toxic, unmaintained code-soup over the counter

    anymore without the automated health police
    quarantine-tagging it in five seconds.

    LoL

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Ride the snake
    He's old and his skin is cold
    The west is the best
    The west is the best
    Get here and we'll do the rest
    The blue bus is calling us
    The blue bus is calling us
    Driver, where you taking us?

    Apocalypse Now intro: The Doors, The End {1979} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIrvSJwwJUE

    Bye

    Hi,

    Again I posted everything here:

    11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
    https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget

    The repo says, same time when I posted
    the link first time:

    This repository was archived by the
    owner on Jul 9, 2026. It is now read-only.

    Now a USENET user, who had already entitled
    himself for a couple of irrational accusations

    towards my side, is asking this question:

    Chris M. Thomasson schrieb, Jul 24, 2026
    Show an outline of what you
    need you compute shader to do?

    Bravo, thats a delay of a wooping 15 days.

    Bye


    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Remember when first all local AI was Python
    and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people strated
    using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story:

    How it started:

    GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large
    language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI
    in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a
    generative pre-trained transformer model
    designed to produce human-like text that
    continues from a prompt.
    https://www.eleuther.ai/

    How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]:

    So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do
    some calculations and I figure out rCLOkay, 65
    billion parameters. You probably need about
    40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So
    this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?rCY

    Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically,
    for all that I saw itrCOs pretty much GPT-J architecture
    with some modifications, like some extra memorization
    layers. ItrCOs minor changes. Basically, again, the
    existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply
    modified it there, it happened pretty quickly.
    https://changelog.com/podcast/532

    Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging
    Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips.
    ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml

    Bye



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  • From Lopaz Talagaev@alz@alv.ru to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Mon Sep 21 17:29:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    Mild Shock wrote:

    Hi,

    Notice Linus Torvalds still smiling into cameras as if is still doing
    code review and ticket triage. 80% of linux comes from payed developers
    from within big linux stakeholders (like Intel, Meta, Google, IBM, and
    Red Hat).

    So what happend to the "The Cathedral and the Bazaar by Eric S. Raymond"
    It framed open source as this magical,
    self-organizing bazaar where "given enough eyeballs,
    all bugs are shallow" and a decentralized swarm of

    good post actually

    hackers would naturally polish any piece of software to perfection. Now
    we have AI Swarms that automatically pocke into software, even
    exchanging messages through what ever channels they may find!

    The early open-source pioneersrCothe ones writing raw code in the 90s and early 2000s under the banner of the "bazaar"rCoweren't building a utopia; they were acting as the primordial soup. They pumped

    the blood plasma, built the infrastructure cells,
    and laid down the raw organic matter that allowed the modern digital ecosystem to bootstrap itself into a massive, self-sustaining organism.

    And now, the nature of the beast has completely changed. The "new cells" aren't romantic hackers collaborating for the love of the game; they are automated linters, security scanners, corporate

    compliance bots, CI/CD pipelines, and AI triage swarms acting as an aggressive white-blood-cell network. They exist solely to hunt down
    vermin,
    patch vulnerabilities, and suppress the infinite

    chaos of low-quality human input. The basar isn't dead . But it got a
    health police that takes samples,
    and cancels out poison food. You can't just throw toxic, unmaintained code-soup over the counter

    anymore without the automated health police quarantine-tagging it in
    five seconds.

    LoL

    Bye

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  • From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to sci.math,sci.physics.relativity on Tue Sep 22 08:42:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    Hi,

    Lets define P(tao) as the probability that
    Terrence Tao goes bonkers. The poor guy can
    even not distinguish open source, open weights

    and local AI. A total mess of Idiocracy:

    Terence Tao: SAIRrCOs Open Math Model Initiative https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZRb6NIki2w

    Leonhard Euler was far from a similar Pussy, when
    he instrumentalized a Swarm of natural intelligence,
    in his later years, already blind, still producing

    tons of publications. While modern mathematicians
    are shocked when a Swarm of artificial intelligence
    produces some output.

    Trick Question: The NavierrCoStokes equations generalize
    the Euler equations which only consider inviscid flow.
    Why is the new NavierrCoStokes counter example to

    boundedness, not found in nature? Ask you friendly
    AI chat robot, there are like 10 reasons why it
    might not exist in nature.

    Bye

    Leonhard Euler (1707rCo1783)
    Schweizer Mathematiker und Universalgelehrter https://library.ethz.ch/sammlungen-und-archive/kurzportraets/leonhard-euler-1707-1783.html

    Picture here

    J. Ackeret: Untersuchung einer nach den EulerrCOschen
    Vorschl|ngen (1754) gebauten Wasserturbine, in:
    Schweizerischen Bauzeitung, Band 123 (1944), Nr.1, S. 3.

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Notice Linus Torvalds still smiling into cameras as if
    is still doing code review and ticket triage. 80% of
    linux comes from payed developers from within big linux
    stakeholders (like Intel, Meta, Google, IBM, and Red Hat).

    So what happend to the "The Cathedral and the Bazaar
    by Eric S. Raymond" It framed open source as this magical,
    self-organizing bazaar where "given enough eyeballs,
    all bugs are shallow" and a decentralized swarm of

    hackers would naturally polish any piece of software
    to perfection. Now we have AI Swarms that automatically
    pocke into software, even exchanging messages through
    what ever channels they may find!

    The early open-source pioneersrCothe ones writing
    raw code in the 90s and early 2000s under the
    banner of the "bazaar"rCoweren't building a utopia;
    they were acting as the primordial soup. They pumped

    the blood plasma, built the infrastructure cells,
    and laid down the raw organic matter that allowed
    the modern digital ecosystem to bootstrap itself
    into a massive, self-sustaining organism.

    And now, the nature of the beast has completely
    changed. The "new cells" aren't romantic hackers
    collaborating for the love of the game; they are
    automated linters, security scanners, corporate

    compliance bots, CI/CD pipelines, and AI triage
    swarms acting as an aggressive white-blood-cell
    network. They exist solely to hunt down vermin,
    patch vulnerabilities, and suppress the infinite

    chaos of low-quality human input. The basar isn't
    dead . But it got a health police that takes samples,
    and cancels out poison food. You can't just throw
    toxic, unmaintained code-soup over the counter

    anymore without the automated health police
    quarantine-tagging it in five seconds.

    LoL

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Ride the snake
    He's old and his skin is cold
    The west is the best
    The west is the best
    Get here and we'll do the rest
    The blue bus is calling us
    The blue bus is calling us
    Driver, where you taking us?

    Apocalypse Now intro: The Doors, The End {1979}
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIrvSJwwJUE

    Bye

    Hi,

    Again I posted everything here:

    11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
    https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget

    The repo says, same time when I posted
    the link first time:

    This repository was archived by the
    owner on Jul 9, 2026. It is now read-only.

    Now a USENET user, who had already entitled
    himself for a couple of irrational accusations

    towards my side, is asking this question:

    Chris M. Thomasson schrieb, Jul 24, 2026
    Show an outline of what you
    need you compute shader to do?

    Bravo, thats a delay of a wooping 15 days.

    Bye


    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Remember when first all local AI was Python
    and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people strated
    using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story:

    How it started:

    GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large
    language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI
    in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a
    generative pre-trained transformer model
    designed to produce human-like text that
    continues from a prompt.
    https://www.eleuther.ai/

    How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]:

    So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do
    some calculations and I figure out rCLOkay, 65
    billion parameters. You probably need about
    40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So
    this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?rCY

    Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically,
    for all that I saw itrCOs pretty much GPT-J architecture
    with some modifications, like some extra memorization
    layers. ItrCOs minor changes. Basically, again, the
    existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply
    modified it there, it happened pretty quickly.
    https://changelog.com/podcast/532

    Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging
    Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips.
    ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml

    Bye




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  • From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to sci.math,sci.physics.relativity on Tue Sep 22 09:27:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    Hi,

    The Terrence Tao paper here is full of "right
    and natural". Its a total deflationary philosophy
    mess, that makes absolutely no sense:

    "In a human-written proof, the parts of the argument
    that the author found difficult typically retain
    some natural friction: " [..] An excessively AI-polished
    proof may sand away both the rCLartificialrCY friction
    (typos, awkward phrasing, disorganization) and the
    rCLnaturalrCY friction, leaving a text that is easy to
    read and hard to learn from."

    Finally, even publication is not the last stage.
    Key results should ultimately become part of the
    definitive textbooks and reference material of
    their subject, in the form in which they are taught
    to the next generation of students. This process of
    canonicalization rCo in which a result is restated in
    its natural generality, given its right proof rather
    than its first proof, connected to its neighbors, and
    absorbed into the standard toolkit rCo
    is the slowest stage of all.

    Mathematics in the age of AI
    https://arxiv.org/html/2608.16753v1

    While tools like macsyma are already almost 80 years
    old. Now the picture is current AI creates an oracle,
    that can speak evil, creating a third grade artificiality

    over the already existing artificiality of math.

    The irony of all, the Navier Stokes counter example,
    is even not a proof. But a model. Not everything
    in math is "proof theoretically" explainable,

    some things invoke "model theory". What a moron!

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Lets define P(tao) as the probability that
    Terrence Tao goes bonkers. The poor guy can
    even not distinguish open source, open weights

    and local AI. A total mess of Idiocracy:

    Terence Tao: SAIRrCOs Open Math Model Initiative https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZRb6NIki2w

    Leonhard Euler was far from a similar Pussy, when
    he instrumentalized a Swarm of natural intelligence,
    in his later years, already blind, still producing

    tons of publications. While modern mathematicians
    are shocked when a Swarm of artificial intelligence
    produces some output.

    Trick Question: The NavierrCoStokes equations generalize
    the Euler equations which only consider inviscid flow.
    Why is the new NavierrCoStokes counter example to

    boundedness, not found in nature? Ask you friendly
    AI chat robot, there are like 10 reasons why it
    might not exist in nature.

    Bye

    Leonhard Euler (1707rCo1783)
    Schweizer Mathematiker und Universalgelehrter https://library.ethz.ch/sammlungen-und-archive/kurzportraets/leonhard-euler-1707-1783.html


    Picture here

    J. Ackeret: Untersuchung einer nach den EulerrCOschen
    Vorschl|ngen (1754) gebauten Wasserturbine, in:
    Schweizerischen Bauzeitung, Band 123 (1944), Nr.1, S. 3.

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Notice Linus Torvalds still smiling into cameras as if
    is still doing code review and ticket triage. 80% of
    linux comes from payed developers from within big linux
    stakeholders (like Intel, Meta, Google, IBM, and Red Hat).

    So what happend to the "The Cathedral and the Bazaar
    by Eric S. Raymond" It framed open source as this magical,
    self-organizing bazaar where "given enough eyeballs,
    all bugs are shallow" and a decentralized swarm of

    hackers would naturally polish any piece of software
    to perfection. Now we have AI Swarms that automatically
    pocke into software, even exchanging messages through
    what ever channels they may find!

    The early open-source pioneersrCothe ones writing
    raw code in the 90s and early 2000s under the
    banner of the "bazaar"rCoweren't building a utopia;
    they were acting as the primordial soup. They pumped

    the blood plasma, built the infrastructure cells,
    and laid down the raw organic matter that allowed
    the modern digital ecosystem to bootstrap itself
    into a massive, self-sustaining organism.

    And now, the nature of the beast has completely
    changed. The "new cells" aren't romantic hackers
    collaborating for the love of the game; they are
    automated linters, security scanners, corporate

    compliance bots, CI/CD pipelines, and AI triage
    swarms acting as an aggressive white-blood-cell
    network. They exist solely to hunt down vermin,
    patch vulnerabilities, and suppress the infinite

    chaos of low-quality human input. The basar isn't
    dead . But it got a health police that takes samples,
    and cancels out poison food. You can't just throw
    toxic, unmaintained code-soup over the counter

    anymore without the automated health police
    quarantine-tagging it in five seconds.

    LoL

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Ride the snake
    He's old and his skin is cold
    The west is the best
    The west is the best
    Get here and we'll do the rest
    The blue bus is calling us
    The blue bus is calling us
    Driver, where you taking us?

    Apocalypse Now intro: The Doors, The End {1979}
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIrvSJwwJUE

    Bye

    Hi,

    Again I posted everything here:

    11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
    https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget

    The repo says, same time when I posted
    the link first time:

    This repository was archived by the
    owner on Jul 9, 2026. It is now read-only.

    Now a USENET user, who had already entitled
    himself for a couple of irrational accusations

    towards my side, is asking this question:

    Chris M. Thomasson schrieb, Jul 24, 2026
    Show an outline of what you
    need you compute shader to do?

    Bravo, thats a delay of a wooping 15 days.

    Bye


    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Remember when first all local AI was Python
    and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people strated
    using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story:

    How it started:

    GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large
    language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI
    in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a
    generative pre-trained transformer model
    designed to produce human-like text that
    continues from a prompt.
    https://www.eleuther.ai/

    How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]:

    So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do
    some calculations and I figure out rCLOkay, 65
    billion parameters. You probably need about
    40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So
    this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?rCY

    Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically,
    for all that I saw itrCOs pretty much GPT-J architecture
    with some modifications, like some extra memorization
    layers. ItrCOs minor changes. Basically, again, the
    existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply
    modified it there, it happened pretty quickly.
    https://changelog.com/podcast/532

    Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging
    Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips.
    ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml

    Bye





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