• Re: Hachel's blunder

    From Python@python@cccp.invalid to sci.physics.relativity on Sat Sep 19 12:01:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    Richard,

    You previously thought that

    dt = d(tau)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)

    was locally correct for accelerated motion, and that the error
    appeared only when physicists integrated it.

    You now explicitly withdraw that claim.

    Fine.

    But there is one very important correction:

    The advice and research provided by Python [...]
    proved extremely useful.
    So, we arrive at: [formula]

    I did not discover an error in SR.

    I discovered what YOUR equations imply.

    Starting from YOUR equations

    Tr(x) = sqrt(2x/a)

    To(x) = (x/c)*sqrt(1 + 2c^2/(ax))

    and

    Vr = sqrt(2ax),

    ordinary differentiation necessarily gives

    1 + Vr^2/(2c^2)
    dTo = dTr * -------------------------- .
    sqrt(1 + Vr^2/(4c^2))

    That result says:

    Hachel's assumptions != SR.

    It does NOT say:

    experiment != SR.

    That second step is precisely what remains to be demonstrated.


    There is also a serious problem with this argument:

    you cannot position yourself at point O and then move to the
    x-coordinate Tr1 to use an equation that is valid only when
    starting from O

    That objection does not apply to the SR proper-time relation.

    SR does not say that at every point of the trajectory one must
    "go back to O" and reapply some finite formula from O.

    It says locally:

    c^2 d(tau)^2 =
    c^2 dt^2 - dx^2 - dy^2 - dz^2.

    Hence, in an inertial coordinate system,

    d(tau) = dt*sqrt(1-v^2/c^2).

    This relation is local.

    No O appears in it.
    No initial position appears in it.
    No assumption that v has remained constant since O appears in it.

    One then sums these infinitesimal proper-time intervals along
    the worldline:

    tau = integral d(tau).

    That is exactly what a line integral does.


    And this statement is simply false:

    Minkowski geometry [...] works only for simple Galilean
    reference frames where velocity remains trivially constant.

    Take ANY accelerated timelike worldline in Minkowski spacetime,

    x^mu(t).

    Its proper time is

    d(tau)^2 = dt^2 -
    (dx^2+dy^2+dz^2)/c^2.

    Nothing there requires

    dv/dt = 0.

    Uniform proper acceleration is one of the elementary examples:

    ct(tau) = (c^2/a) sinh(a tau/c)

    x(tau) = (c^2/a)[cosh(a tau/c)-1].

    This is an accelerated worldline IN Minkowski spacetime.

    Likewise, rotation does not make Minkowski spacetime cease to be
    Minkowskian. Non-inertial coordinates can have a nontrivial
    metric while the spacetime curvature remains zero.

    So you have not found a mathematical failure of Minkowski
    geometry for acceleration.


    Your theory now predicts a different local clock law from SR.

    For example, at

    Vr = sqrt(2)c,

    your accelerated formula gives

    dTr/dTo = 0.612372...

    whereas SR gives

    d(tau)/dt = 0.577350...

    at the same instantaneous velocity.

    Difference: about 6.07%.

    That is excellent news experimentally: the disagreement is
    quantitative.


    So there is no need yet to scrap

    "the entire doctrine"

    and rebuild physics from scratch.

    First perform the considerably cheaper operation:

    MEASURE IT.

    If an accelerated clock at that velocity behaves according to

    0.612372...

    rather than

    0.577350...,

    then you have evidence against SR and something genuinely
    important to explain.

    If it behaves according to 0.577350..., your equation is wrong.

    At present the logical situation is simply:

    RH assumptions
    |
    v
    RH clock equation
    |
    | differs from
    v
    SR clock equation

    You have demonstrated the difference.

    You have not demonstrated which one Nature uses.

    Before scrapping the entire doctrine, it might be prudent to
    allow Nature a vote.
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  • From Richard Hachel@r.hachel@tiscali.fr to sci.physics.relativity on Sat Sep 19 11:44:01 2026
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    I always said there was something amiss with this business of relativistic integration, where physicists calculate the proper time of an accelerating rocket relative to the Earth's reference frame.
    It seemed to me that the approximation was correctrCothat one could indeed
    set dt = d(tau)/sqrt{1-v^2/c^2} locally.
    And that the problem lay in the integration itself.
    But actually, no. It is the equation that is flawed. It is a beautiful equation, certainly. But wrong. Completely wrong.
    I had started from a personal errorrCoassuming dTo^2 = dTr^2 + dre4t^2
    rCobut that is incorrect. Just as the Minkowski metric, which leads to
    dt^2 = d(tau)-# + dre4-# is completely wrong.
    The advice and research provided by PythonrCowho believed that if there
    was an error, it couldn't stem from the integration but rather from the formula itselfrCoproved extremely useful.
    So, we arrive at:

    <http://nemoweb.net/jntp?vkgxnBVVWIt_RjzJKizuT5Er7GM@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    ..and not to what physicists sayrCowho make the same blunder I did (in
    fact, you cannot position yourself at point O and then move to the x-coordinate Tr1 to use an equation that is valid only when starting from
    O).
    That was the source of my error, just as the physicists' error stems from their belief in Minkowski geometryrCowhich works only for simple Galilean reference frames where velocity remains trivially constant.
    It fails to work for rotating or uniformly accelerated reference frames.
    It is truly alarming to realize that the *entire* doctrine must be
    scrapped, and everything rebuilt and re-explained from scratchrCostarting
    with a clear definition of relativistic simultaneity, a concept physicists mistakenly conflate with chronotropy without understanding the first thing about it.

    R.H.
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  • From Richard Hachel@r.hachel@tiscali.fr to sci.physics.relativity on Sat Sep 19 12:31:07 2026
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    Le 19/09/2026 |a 14:01, Python a |-crit :
    Richard,

    You have demonstrated the difference.

    And you too.

    You have not demonstrated which one Nature uses.

    And you no more. :))

    Before scrapping the entire doctrine, it might be prudent to
    allow Nature a vote.

    Absolutely. So, we have two different geometries with completely
    different predictions.

    The first one isn't very elegant; IrCOve never found the concept of the spacetime interval to be particularly elegant or easy to grasp. Above all,
    I find it entirely unnecessary and overly complicated for high school
    students (the basics of relativity ought to be taught in high school,
    given that in HachelrCOs theory, the equations require no tools beyond
    what is already taught at that level).
    It is clear, simple, and accessible to everyone.
    With the help of artificial intelligencerCowhich sometimes offers good
    ideas for clear definitionsrCowe could put together a short booklet of
    just a few pages; the kind of booklet one could even read in bed at night before falling asleep.
    "The concept of simultaneity... universal anisochrony... the relativity of chronotropy (the internal mechanism of watches)... accelerated reference frames... momentum prediction..."

    It is all very simple, really.

    R.H.


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  • From Python@python@cccp.invalid to sci.physics.relativity on Sat Sep 19 12:47:54 2026
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    So, we have two different geometries with completely different
    predictions.

    Not quite.

    We have:

    1. SR, which provides a general geometry and a general rule for
    calculating proper time along any timelike worldline;

    2. RH, for which we have derived a different local relation in
    one particular accelerated trajectory.

    That is already interesting, but it is not yet "two geometries"
    of comparable completeness.


    You have not demonstrated which one Nature uses.

    And you no more. :))

    Careful.

    I have certainly not demonstrated here that a particular experiment
    has already distinguished YOUR newly stated equation from SR.

    That is precisely why I am asking for such an experiment.

    But SR did not acquire its experimental status yesterday.

    Its predictions concerning clocks, Doppler effects, particle
    lifetimes, accelerators, atomic clocks, GPS, etc. have been tested
    for decades.

    So the experimental situation is not:

    RH 0 - 0 SR

    with Nature waiting for the referee to blow the whistle.

    You have proposed a NEW prediction differing from the established
    one.

    The interesting job is therefore to find an experiment which
    distinguishes them.


    There is also a more immediate problem.

    Before writing the little bedtime booklet, RH still needs a
    general equation.

    The equation we derived from your assumptions,

    1 + Vr^2/(2c^2)
    dTo = dTr * -------------------------- ,
    sqrt(1 + Vr^2/(4c^2))

    came from your particular trajectory

    Vr = a Tr
    x = (1/2) a Tr^2

    starting from rest with constant a.

    Now you want the booklet to explain:

    accelerated frames,
    deceleration,
    arbitrary changes of acceleration,
    simultaneity,
    clock rates,
    momentum, ...

    Fine.

    Then give the general RH law.

    For an arbitrary trajectory, what determines

    dTr/dTo ?

    Is it a function of

    Vr only?

    Vr and a?

    the sign of a?

    position x?

    the previous history of the trajectory?

    For example, at the same event and the same Vr, what does RH predict
    for:

    a > 0
    a = 0
    a < 0 ?

    We already know that your present equations give different answers
    between a > 0 and a = 0.

    What is the answer for a < 0?


    This matters because SR already has one answer valid for all three:

    d(tau)/dt = sqrt(1-v^2/c^2).

    Acceleration changes the trajectory v(t), but no additional
    acceleration term is required in the local proper-time law.

    So simplicity cannot yet be claimed for RH.

    A simple theory is not one whose first example uses high-school
    mathematics.

    It is one which gives a small set of well-defined rules from which
    ALL the relevant cases can be calculated without adding a new rule
    for each case.


    And before "the entire doctrine must be scrapped", there is still
    that delightfully simple 6.07% question.

    At

    Vr = sqrt(2)c,

    RH accelerated motion predicts

    dTr/dTo = 0.612372...

    while SR predicts

    d(tau)/dt = 0.577350...

    No philosophy of simultaneity is required to distinguish those
    numbers.

    No Minkowski diagram is required either.

    Just clocks.

    So by all means write the booklet.

    But before the chapter entitled

    "Why Einstein was wrong"

    I suggest a short experimental chapter:

    "Which number does Nature give?"
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  • From Daryll Mahurov@ama@dalrolo.ru to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Sat Sep 19 16:10:23 2026
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    Python wrote:

    So, we have two different geometries with completely different
    predictions.

    Not quite.

    We have:

    1. SR, which provides a general geometry and a general rule for
    calculating proper time along any timelike worldline;

    carefull here, that's not taking the curvatures into account, hence by definotion wrong.
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  • From Richard Hachel@r.hachel@tiscali.fr to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Sat Sep 19 16:58:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    Le 19/09/2026 |a 18:10, Daryll Mahurov a |-crit :
    Python wrote:

    So, we have two different geometries with completely different
    predictions.

    Not quite.

    We have:

    1. SR, which provides a general geometry and a general rule for
    calculating proper time along any timelike worldline;

    carefull here, that's not taking the curvatures into account, hence by definotion wrong.

    Si la relativit|- restreinte n'a pas les bonnes bases, que devient la relativit|- g|-n|-rale?

    Attention les mecs, ne vous laissez pas avoir. Les dessins anim|-s de
    trous noirs, c'est des dessins anim|-s.

    R.H.
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  • From The Starmaker@starmaker@ix.netcom.com to sci.physics.relativity on Sat Sep 19 12:42:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    I always said there was something amiss with this business of relativistic integration, where physicists calculate the proper time of an accelerating rocket relative to the Earth's reference frame.
    It seemed to me that the approximation was correctrCothat one could indeed set dt = d(tau)/sqrt{1-v^2/c^2} locally.
    And that the problem lay in the integration itself.
    But actually, no. It is the equation that is flawed. It is a beautiful equation, certainly. But wrong. Completely wrong.
    I had started from a personal errorrCoassuming dTo^2 = dTr^2 + dre4t^2
    rCobut that is incorrect. Just as the Minkowski metric, which leads to
    dt^2 = d(tau)-# + dre4-# is completely wrong.
    The advice and research provided by PythonrCowho believed that if there
    was an error, it couldn't stem from the integration but rather from the formula itselfrCoproved extremely useful.
    So, we arrive at:

    <http://nemoweb.net/jntp?vkgxnBVVWIt_RjzJKizuT5Er7GM@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    ..and not to what physicists sayrCowho make the same blunder I did (in
    fact, you cannot position yourself at point O and then move to the x-coordinate Tr1 to use an equation that is valid only when starting from
    O).
    That was the source of my error, just as the physicists' error stems from their belief in Minkowski geometryrCowhich works only for simple Galilean reference frames where velocity remains trivially constant.
    It fails to work for rotating or uniformly accelerated reference frames.
    It is truly alarming to realize that the *entire* doctrine must be
    scrapped, and everything rebuilt and re-explained from scratchrCostarting with a clear definition of relativistic simultaneity, a concept physicists mistakenly conflate with chronotropy without understanding the first thing about it.

    R.H.

    --
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    I'll explain since I'm the only genuieses in da room..


    There is a clock..
    it is a giant clock...
    a very big gigantic clock,

    and the time is...

    it's NOW everywhere!!!!


    What time is it now?

    The Time is ... NOW everywhere!!!!



    What time is it now?


    Now?

    Yes.


    it's NOW everywhere!!!!


    it's always now.



    What time is it now?


    didn't you just ask me dat?


    IT'S NOW!!!!



    Well, i beg to differ..not according to Einstein's clock.


    FUCK EINSTEIN'S CLOCK!!!!
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  • From The Starmaker@starmaker@ix.netcom.com to sci.physics.relativity on Sat Sep 19 23:44:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    I always said there was something amiss with this business of relativistic integration, where physicists calculate the proper time of an accelerating rocket relative to the Earth's reference frame.
    It seemed to me that the approximation was correctrCothat one could indeed set dt = d(tau)/sqrt{1-v^2/c^2} locally.
    And that the problem lay in the integration itself.
    But actually, no. It is the equation that is flawed. It is a beautiful equation, certainly. But wrong. Completely wrong.
    I had started from a personal errorrCoassuming dTo^2 = dTr^2 + dre4t^2 rCobut that is incorrect. Just as the Minkowski metric, which leads to
    dt^2 = d(tau)-# + dre4-# is completely wrong.
    The advice and research provided by PythonrCowho believed that if there
    was an error, it couldn't stem from the integration but rather from the formula itselfrCoproved extremely useful.
    So, we arrive at:

    <http://nemoweb.net/jntp?vkgxnBVVWIt_RjzJKizuT5Er7GM@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    ..and not to what physicists sayrCowho make the same blunder I did (in fact, you cannot position yourself at point O and then move to the x-coordinate Tr1 to use an equation that is valid only when starting from O).
    That was the source of my error, just as the physicists' error stems from their belief in Minkowski geometryrCowhich works only for simple Galilean reference frames where velocity remains trivially constant.
    It fails to work for rotating or uniformly accelerated reference frames.
    It is truly alarming to realize that the *entire* doctrine must be scrapped, and everything rebuilt and re-explained from scratchrCostarting with a clear definition of relativistic simultaneity, a concept physicists mistakenly conflate with chronotropy without understanding the first thing about it.

    R.H.

    --
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    I'll explain since I'm the only genuieses in da room..

    There is a clock..
    it is a giant clock...
    a very big gigantic clock,

    and the time is...

    it's NOW everywhere!!!!

    What time is it now?

    The Time is ... NOW everywhere!!!!

    What time is it now?

    Now?

    Yes.

    it's NOW everywhere!!!!

    it's always now.

    What time is it now?

    didn't you just ask me dat?

    IT'S NOW!!!!

    Well, i beg to differ..not according to Einstein's clock.

    FUCK EINSTEIN'S CLOCK!!!!

    In other words, if you want
    "a clear definition of relativistic simultaneity"

    it's FUCK EINSTEIN'S CLOCK!

    There is only one universal clock, and that clock reads the time is NOW everywere.
    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.
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  • From The Starmaker@starmaker@ix.netcom.com to sci.physics.relativity on Sun Sep 20 11:22:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    I always said there was something amiss with this business of relativistic
    integration, where physicists calculate the proper time of an accelerating
    rocket relative to the Earth's reference frame.
    It seemed to me that the approximation was correctrCothat one could indeed
    set dt = d(tau)/sqrt{1-v^2/c^2} locally.
    And that the problem lay in the integration itself.
    But actually, no. It is the equation that is flawed. It is a beautiful equation, certainly. But wrong. Completely wrong.
    I had started from a personal errorrCoassuming dTo^2 = dTr^2 + dre4t^2 rCobut that is incorrect. Just as the Minkowski metric, which leads to dt^2 = d(tau)-# + dre4-# is completely wrong.
    The advice and research provided by PythonrCowho believed that if there was an error, it couldn't stem from the integration but rather from the formula itselfrCoproved extremely useful.
    So, we arrive at:

    <http://nemoweb.net/jntp?vkgxnBVVWIt_RjzJKizuT5Er7GM@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    ..and not to what physicists sayrCowho make the same blunder I did (in fact, you cannot position yourself at point O and then move to the x-coordinate Tr1 to use an equation that is valid only when starting from O).
    That was the source of my error, just as the physicists' error stems from their belief in Minkowski geometryrCowhich works only for simple Galilean reference frames where velocity remains trivially constant.
    It fails to work for rotating or uniformly accelerated reference frames. It is truly alarming to realize that the *entire* doctrine must be scrapped, and everything rebuilt and re-explained from scratchrCostarting with a clear definition of relativistic simultaneity, a concept physicists
    mistakenly conflate with chronotropy without understanding the first thing
    about it.

    R.H.

    --
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    I'll explain since I'm the only genuieses in da room..

    There is a clock..
    it is a giant clock...
    a very big gigantic clock,

    and the time is...

    it's NOW everywhere!!!!

    What time is it now?

    The Time is ... NOW everywhere!!!!

    What time is it now?

    Now?

    Yes.

    it's NOW everywhere!!!!

    it's always now.

    What time is it now?

    didn't you just ask me dat?

    IT'S NOW!!!!

    Well, i beg to differ..not according to Einstein's clock.

    FUCK EINSTEIN'S CLOCK!!!!

    In other words, if you want
    "a clear definition of relativistic simultaneity"

    it's FUCK EINSTEIN'S CLOCK!

    There is only one universal clock, and that clock reads the time is NOW everywere.


    Let me put it this way. The Universe HAS a Master Clock.

    Our solar system is part of this universal clock mechanism.

    Our solar system is part of this clock...

    the wheels of mercury turn faster than the wheels of earth and so on...

    buy a sundial.


    It's going to be 12: o'clock...dats when the sun is 12 o'cluck
    high...high up there...straight up.


    Einstein's clocks are for people who travel through ...Amtrack.


    Newton has a Master Universal Clock.


    Einstein has a cuckoo clock.

    The problem Einstein had is how do you schronize two cuckoo birds????


    He would have patent it if he knew how...

    so you are stuck forever wit dis imperfect cuckoo clock.

    There is no such thing as PERFECT on earth.


    You need to understand the 'machinery' behind the Universal Master
    Clock...

    and that machine is located OUTSIDE your egg shaped universe.

    Here is what the machine outside the universe looks like...

    (beyond the dark matter which surronds your universe)

    https://www.youtube.com./watch?tvv=IkCku4TM8HA
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  • From The Starmaker@starmaker@ix.netcom.com to sci.physics.relativity on Mon Sep 21 10:43:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    I always said there was something amiss with this business of relativistic
    integration, where physicists calculate the proper time of an accelerating
    rocket relative to the Earth's reference frame.
    It seemed to me that the approximation was correctrCothat one could indeed
    set dt = d(tau)/sqrt{1-v^2/c^2} locally.
    And that the problem lay in the integration itself.
    But actually, no. It is the equation that is flawed. It is a beautiful equation, certainly. But wrong. Completely wrong.
    I had started from a personal errorrCoassuming dTo^2 = dTr^2 + dre4t^2 rCobut that is incorrect. Just as the Minkowski metric, which leads to dt^2 = d(tau)-# + dre4-# is completely wrong.
    The advice and research provided by PythonrCowho believed that if there was an error, it couldn't stem from the integration but rather from the formula itselfrCoproved extremely useful.
    So, we arrive at:

    <http://nemoweb.net/jntp?vkgxnBVVWIt_RjzJKizuT5Er7GM@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    ..and not to what physicists sayrCowho make the same blunder I did (in fact, you cannot position yourself at point O and then move to the x-coordinate Tr1 to use an equation that is valid only when starting from
    O).
    That was the source of my error, just as the physicists' error stems from
    their belief in Minkowski geometryrCowhich works only for simple Galilean
    reference frames where velocity remains trivially constant.
    It fails to work for rotating or uniformly accelerated reference frames.
    It is truly alarming to realize that the *entire* doctrine must be scrapped, and everything rebuilt and re-explained from scratchrCostarting
    with a clear definition of relativistic simultaneity, a concept physicists
    mistakenly conflate with chronotropy without understanding the first thing
    about it.

    R.H.

    --
    Ce message a |-t|- post|- avec Nemo : <https://www.nemoweb.net/?DataID=vkgxnBVVWIt_RjzJKizuT5Er7GM@jntp>

    I'll explain since I'm the only genuieses in da room..

    There is a clock..
    it is a giant clock...
    a very big gigantic clock,

    and the time is...

    it's NOW everywhere!!!!

    What time is it now?

    The Time is ... NOW everywhere!!!!

    What time is it now?

    Now?

    Yes.

    it's NOW everywhere!!!!

    it's always now.

    What time is it now?

    didn't you just ask me dat?

    IT'S NOW!!!!

    Well, i beg to differ..not according to Einstein's clock.

    FUCK EINSTEIN'S CLOCK!!!!

    In other words, if you want
    "a clear definition of relativistic simultaneity"

    it's FUCK EINSTEIN'S CLOCK!

    There is only one universal clock, and that clock reads the time is NOW everywere.

    Let me put it this way. The Universe HAS a Master Clock.

    Our solar system is part of this universal clock mechanism.

    Our solar system is part of this clock...

    the wheels of mercury turn faster than the wheels of earth and so on...

    buy a sundial.

    It's going to be 12: o'clock...dats when the sun is 12 o'cluck
    high...high up there...straight up.

    Einstein's clocks are for people who travel through ...Amtrack.

    Newton has a Master Universal Clock.

    Einstein has a cuckoo clock.

    The problem Einstein had is how do you schronize two cuckoo birds????

    He would have patent it if he knew how...

    so you are stuck forever wit dis imperfect cuckoo clock.

    There is no such thing as PERFECT on earth.

    You need to understand the 'machinery' behind the Universal Master
    Clock...

    and that machine is located OUTSIDE your egg shaped universe.

    Here is what the machine outside the universe looks like...

    (beyond the dark matter which surronds your universe)

    https://www.youtube.com./watch?tvv=IkCku4TM8HA

    Keep in mind Einstein was jealous of anything having to do with Newton.

    Einstein's goal was to bury Newton.

    (Newton's IQ was HIGHER than Einstein's IQ)


    GR was created to bury Newton.


    Does Einstein believe in a Master Universal Clock???


    Einstein only believes in ...his cuckoo clocks.


    Has Einstein ever said anything nice about...Newton????



    Newton said gravity is a force..and Einstein sez gravity is not a force.


    Newton said the universe is a master clock, and Einstein said there is
    no universal master clock.


    Newton was a Christan, and Einstein was a Kike.
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  • From The Starmaker@starmaker@ix.netcom.com to sci.physics.relativity on Mon Sep 21 14:58:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    I always said there was something amiss with this business of relativistic
    integration, where physicists calculate the proper time of an accelerating
    rocket relative to the Earth's reference frame.
    It seemed to me that the approximation was correctrCothat one could indeed
    set dt = d(tau)/sqrt{1-v^2/c^2} locally.
    And that the problem lay in the integration itself.
    But actually, no. It is the equation that is flawed. It is a beautiful
    equation, certainly. But wrong. Completely wrong.
    I had started from a personal errorrCoassuming dTo^2 = dTr^2 + dre4t^2
    rCobut that is incorrect. Just as the Minkowski metric, which leads to
    dt^2 = d(tau)-# + dre4-# is completely wrong.
    The advice and research provided by PythonrCowho believed that if there
    was an error, it couldn't stem from the integration but rather from the
    formula itselfrCoproved extremely useful.
    So, we arrive at:

    <http://nemoweb.net/jntp?vkgxnBVVWIt_RjzJKizuT5Er7GM@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    ..and not to what physicists sayrCowho make the same blunder I did (in
    fact, you cannot position yourself at point O and then move to the x-coordinate Tr1 to use an equation that is valid only when starting from
    O).
    That was the source of my error, just as the physicists' error stems from
    their belief in Minkowski geometryrCowhich works only for simple Galilean
    reference frames where velocity remains trivially constant.
    It fails to work for rotating or uniformly accelerated reference frames.
    It is truly alarming to realize that the *entire* doctrine must be scrapped, and everything rebuilt and re-explained from scratchrCostarting
    with a clear definition of relativistic simultaneity, a concept physicists
    mistakenly conflate with chronotropy without understanding the first thing
    about it.

    R.H.

    --
    Ce message a |-t|- post|- avec Nemo : <https://www.nemoweb.net/?DataID=vkgxnBVVWIt_RjzJKizuT5Er7GM@jntp>

    I'll explain since I'm the only genuieses in da room..

    There is a clock..
    it is a giant clock...
    a very big gigantic clock,

    and the time is...

    it's NOW everywhere!!!!

    What time is it now?

    The Time is ... NOW everywhere!!!!

    What time is it now?

    Now?

    Yes.

    it's NOW everywhere!!!!

    it's always now.

    What time is it now?

    didn't you just ask me dat?

    IT'S NOW!!!!

    Well, i beg to differ..not according to Einstein's clock.

    FUCK EINSTEIN'S CLOCK!!!!

    In other words, if you want
    "a clear definition of relativistic simultaneity"

    it's FUCK EINSTEIN'S CLOCK!

    There is only one universal clock, and that clock reads the time is NOW everywere.

    Let me put it this way. The Universe HAS a Master Clock.

    Our solar system is part of this universal clock mechanism.

    Our solar system is part of this clock...

    the wheels of mercury turn faster than the wheels of earth and so on...

    buy a sundial.

    It's going to be 12: o'clock...dats when the sun is 12 o'cluck
    high...high up there...straight up.

    Einstein's clocks are for people who travel through ...Amtrack.

    Newton has a Master Universal Clock.

    Einstein has a cuckoo clock.

    The problem Einstein had is how do you schronize two cuckoo birds????

    He would have patent it if he knew how...

    so you are stuck forever wit dis imperfect cuckoo clock.

    There is no such thing as PERFECT on earth.

    You need to understand the 'machinery' behind the Universal Master
    Clock...

    and that machine is located OUTSIDE your egg shaped universe.

    Here is what the machine outside the universe looks like...

    (beyond the dark matter which surronds your universe)

    https://www.youtube.com./watch?tvv=IkCku4TM8HA

    Keep in mind Einstein was jealous of anything having to do with Newton.

    Einstein's goal was to bury Newton.

    (Newton's IQ was HIGHER than Einstein's IQ)

    GR was created to bury Newton.

    Does Einstein believe in a Master Universal Clock???

    Einstein only believes in ...his cuckoo clocks.

    Has Einstein ever said anything nice about...Newton????

    Newton said gravity is a force..and Einstein sez gravity is not a force.


    Now, a closer examination of Gravity according to Einstein is that
    Gravity is caused by
    the curvature of space.

    That isn't true.

    Space is not curved.

    Space does not have straight or curve lines.

    An egg is curve, but the yoke in the egg is not curved.

    Our universe is contained/enclosed in a curve shell. Space runs through
    in and out of this enclosure.

    Gravity runs through in and out of this enclosure.


    Gravity according to Newton is a force.

    If a planet is round it's not because of the curvature of space...but,
    but of gravity's force.

    Dark Matter is the stage in which our enclosed universe sit's on.

    Evrybody who is standing upside down on the other side of the earth is
    not
    caused by the curvature of space...it's an upside down stage.
    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.
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  • From The Starmaker@starmaker@ix.netcom.com to sci.physics.relativity on Mon Sep 21 20:59:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    I always said there was something amiss with this business of relativistic
    integration, where physicists calculate the proper time of an accelerating
    rocket relative to the Earth's reference frame.
    It seemed to me that the approximation was correctrCothat one could indeed
    set dt = d(tau)/sqrt{1-v^2/c^2} locally.
    And that the problem lay in the integration itself.
    But actually, no. It is the equation that is flawed. It is a beautiful
    equation, certainly. But wrong. Completely wrong.
    I had started from a personal errorrCoassuming dTo^2 = dTr^2 + dre4t^2
    rCobut that is incorrect. Just as the Minkowski metric, which leads to
    dt^2 = d(tau)-# + dre4-# is completely wrong.
    The advice and research provided by PythonrCowho believed that if there
    was an error, it couldn't stem from the integration but rather from the
    formula itselfrCoproved extremely useful.
    So, we arrive at:

    <http://nemoweb.net/jntp?vkgxnBVVWIt_RjzJKizuT5Er7GM@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    ..and not to what physicists sayrCowho make the same blunder I did (in
    fact, you cannot position yourself at point O and then move to the x-coordinate Tr1 to use an equation that is valid only when starting from
    O).
    That was the source of my error, just as the physicists' error stems from
    their belief in Minkowski geometryrCowhich works only for simple Galilean
    reference frames where velocity remains trivially constant.
    It fails to work for rotating or uniformly accelerated reference frames.
    It is truly alarming to realize that the *entire* doctrine must be scrapped, and everything rebuilt and re-explained from scratchrCostarting
    with a clear definition of relativistic simultaneity, a concept physicists
    mistakenly conflate with chronotropy without understanding the first thing
    about it.

    R.H.

    --
    Ce message a |-t|- post|- avec Nemo : <https://www.nemoweb.net/?DataID=vkgxnBVVWIt_RjzJKizuT5Er7GM@jntp>

    I'll explain since I'm the only genuieses in da room..

    There is a clock..
    it is a giant clock...
    a very big gigantic clock,

    and the time is...

    it's NOW everywhere!!!!

    What time is it now?

    The Time is ... NOW everywhere!!!!

    What time is it now?

    Now?

    Yes.

    it's NOW everywhere!!!!

    it's always now.

    What time is it now?

    didn't you just ask me dat?

    IT'S NOW!!!!

    Well, i beg to differ..not according to Einstein's clock.

    FUCK EINSTEIN'S CLOCK!!!!

    In other words, if you want
    "a clear definition of relativistic simultaneity"

    it's FUCK EINSTEIN'S CLOCK!

    There is only one universal clock, and that clock reads the time is NOW everywere.

    Let me put it this way. The Universe HAS a Master Clock.

    Our solar system is part of this universal clock mechanism.

    Our solar system is part of this clock...

    the wheels of mercury turn faster than the wheels of earth and so on...

    buy a sundial.

    It's going to be 12: o'clock...dats when the sun is 12 o'cluck high...high up there...straight up.

    Einstein's clocks are for people who travel through ...Amtrack.

    Newton has a Master Universal Clock.

    Einstein has a cuckoo clock.

    The problem Einstein had is how do you schronize two cuckoo birds????

    He would have patent it if he knew how...

    so you are stuck forever wit dis imperfect cuckoo clock.

    There is no such thing as PERFECT on earth.

    You need to understand the 'machinery' behind the Universal Master Clock...

    and that machine is located OUTSIDE your egg shaped universe.

    Here is what the machine outside the universe looks like...

    (beyond the dark matter which surronds your universe)

    https://www.youtube.com./watch?tvv=IkCku4TM8HA

    Keep in mind Einstein was jealous of anything having to do with Newton.

    Einstein's goal was to bury Newton.

    (Newton's IQ was HIGHER than Einstein's IQ)

    GR was created to bury Newton.

    Does Einstein believe in a Master Universal Clock???

    Einstein only believes in ...his cuckoo clocks.

    Has Einstein ever said anything nice about...Newton????

    Newton said gravity is a force..and Einstein sez gravity is not a force.

    Now, a closer examination of Gravity according to Einstein is that
    Gravity is caused by
    the curvature of space.

    That isn't true.

    Space is not curved.

    Space does not have straight or curve lines.

    An egg is curve, but the yoke in the egg is not curved.

    Our universe is contained/enclosed in a curve shell. Space runs through
    in and out of this enclosure.

    Gravity runs through in and out of this enclosure.

    Gravity according to Newton is a force.

    If a planet is round it's not because of the curvature of space...but,
    but of gravity's force.

    Dark Matter is the stage in which our enclosed universe sit's on.

    Evrybody who is standing upside down on the other side of the earth is
    not
    caused by the curvature of space...it's an upside down stage.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    How did the apple hit Newton's head if it should have 'curved' pass his
    head???
    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The Starmaker@starmaker@ix.netcom.com to sci.physics.relativity on Tue Sep 22 01:05:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    I always said there was something amiss with this business of relativistic
    integration, where physicists calculate the proper time of an accelerating
    rocket relative to the Earth's reference frame.
    It seemed to me that the approximation was correctrCothat one could indeed
    set dt = d(tau)/sqrt{1-v^2/c^2} locally.
    And that the problem lay in the integration itself.
    But actually, no. It is the equation that is flawed. It is a beautiful
    equation, certainly. But wrong. Completely wrong.
    I had started from a personal errorrCoassuming dTo^2 = dTr^2 + dre4t^2
    rCobut that is incorrect. Just as the Minkowski metric, which leads to
    dt^2 = d(tau)-# + dre4-# is completely wrong.
    The advice and research provided by PythonrCowho believed that if there
    was an error, it couldn't stem from the integration but rather from the
    formula itselfrCoproved extremely useful.
    So, we arrive at:

    <http://nemoweb.net/jntp?vkgxnBVVWIt_RjzJKizuT5Er7GM@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    ..and not to what physicists sayrCowho make the same blunder I did (in
    fact, you cannot position yourself at point O and then move to the
    x-coordinate Tr1 to use an equation that is valid only when starting from
    O).
    That was the source of my error, just as the physicists' error stems from
    their belief in Minkowski geometryrCowhich works only for simple Galilean
    reference frames where velocity remains trivially constant.
    It fails to work for rotating or uniformly accelerated reference frames.
    It is truly alarming to realize that the *entire* doctrine must be
    scrapped, and everything rebuilt and re-explained from scratchrCostarting
    with a clear definition of relativistic simultaneity, a concept physicists
    mistakenly conflate with chronotropy without understanding the first thing
    about it.

    R.H.

    --
    Ce message a |-t|- post|- avec Nemo : <https://www.nemoweb.net/?DataID=vkgxnBVVWIt_RjzJKizuT5Er7GM@jntp>

    I'll explain since I'm the only genuieses in da room..

    There is a clock..
    it is a giant clock...
    a very big gigantic clock,

    and the time is...

    it's NOW everywhere!!!!

    What time is it now?

    The Time is ... NOW everywhere!!!!

    What time is it now?

    Now?

    Yes.

    it's NOW everywhere!!!!

    it's always now.

    What time is it now?

    didn't you just ask me dat?

    IT'S NOW!!!!

    Well, i beg to differ..not according to Einstein's clock.

    FUCK EINSTEIN'S CLOCK!!!!

    In other words, if you want
    "a clear definition of relativistic simultaneity"

    it's FUCK EINSTEIN'S CLOCK!

    There is only one universal clock, and that clock reads the time is NOW
    everywere.

    Let me put it this way. The Universe HAS a Master Clock.

    Our solar system is part of this universal clock mechanism.

    Our solar system is part of this clock...

    the wheels of mercury turn faster than the wheels of earth and so on...

    buy a sundial.

    It's going to be 12: o'clock...dats when the sun is 12 o'cluck high...high up there...straight up.

    Einstein's clocks are for people who travel through ...Amtrack.

    Newton has a Master Universal Clock.

    Einstein has a cuckoo clock.

    The problem Einstein had is how do you schronize two cuckoo birds????

    He would have patent it if he knew how...

    so you are stuck forever wit dis imperfect cuckoo clock.

    There is no such thing as PERFECT on earth.

    You need to understand the 'machinery' behind the Universal Master Clock...

    and that machine is located OUTSIDE your egg shaped universe.

    Here is what the machine outside the universe looks like...

    (beyond the dark matter which surronds your universe)

    https://www.youtube.com./watch?tvv=IkCku4TM8HA

    Keep in mind Einstein was jealous of anything having to do with Newton.

    Einstein's goal was to bury Newton.

    (Newton's IQ was HIGHER than Einstein's IQ)

    GR was created to bury Newton.

    Does Einstein believe in a Master Universal Clock???

    Einstein only believes in ...his cuckoo clocks.

    Has Einstein ever said anything nice about...Newton????

    Newton said gravity is a force..and Einstein sez gravity is not a force.

    Now, a closer examination of Gravity according to Einstein is that
    Gravity is caused by
    the curvature of space.

    That isn't true.

    Space is not curved.

    Space does not have straight or curve lines.

    An egg is curve, but the yoke in the egg is not curved.

    Our universe is contained/enclosed in a curve shell. Space runs through
    in and out of this enclosure.

    Gravity runs through in and out of this enclosure.

    Gravity according to Newton is a force.

    If a planet is round it's not because of the curvature of space...but,
    but of gravity's force.

    Dark Matter is the stage in which our enclosed universe sit's on.

    Evrybody who is standing upside down on the other side of the earth is
    not
    caused by the curvature of space...it's an upside down stage.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    How did the apple hit Newton's head if it should have 'curved' pass his head???


    Les not forget Newton still lives beyond relativity.
    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2